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Rocker



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22/07/2010 17:19

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Ian Tomlinson died after being pushed to the groung whilst walking home from work as a G20 demonstration was taking place. The original Coroners court was openned and closed. The Crown Prosecution stated today He died of heart attack, the Coroner has confirmed he died of Abdominable Heamorage !!!!! Full story on BBC .com including video The family are now looking at a private prosecution.



jimmykibris


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22/07/2010 17:22

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The Crown Prosecution stated today He died of heart attack



the Coroner has confirmed he died of Abdominable Heamorage !!!!!



bit of a difference then



Rocker



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22/07/2010 17:27

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Yes something very different



wattys


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22/07/2010 17:42

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Was there any doubt what the outcome would be ? just an exercise to apease Joe Public



steveafc


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22/07/2010 22:11

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who cares?



sweep


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22/07/2010 22:29

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steve



what do you mean, who cares ???



deputydawg


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22/07/2010 22:48

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Its all a question of perspective. For example, many believe that in riot situations of the past skulls have been cracked by a blow(s) from a baton but you cannot stop enquiries taking into account the remote possibility that a rioter has deliberately head butted the baton !



Brinsley


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The first coroner, a Mister/Doctor Patel is up against the Medical Council for 'incompetency' regarding various other 'malpractice' cases charged against him however, in this case, two subsequent independent coroners reports suggest that death was due to a blow to the abdomen causing death by internal hemorrhaging. The CPS having taken over a year to release its findings stating that a case for assault was justified but the 'six month' charge time was spent hence no action.

So much for an innocent street Newspaper seller!



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eager


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22/07/2010 22:51

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Seems that the police let the case go over the 6 month limit, therefore charges in this case could not be brought.



deputydawg


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22/07/2010 23:18

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Seems to me that it matters not what the injuries were, only did they cause the death. The alleged assault appeared very mild but if the victim was frail or fell arkwardly the accused "must take his victim as he found him" If the family are able to mount a civil case they must hope that the photography is deemed admissible in court.



Quarmby


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22/07/2010 23:32

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eager

are you saying that if charges are not brought after 6 months they cannot subsequently charge someone for the offence?

So how can people be charged in cold cases with dna evidence after perhaps 15 years?



deputydawg


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23/07/2010 00:02

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It is because the CPS, in their wisdom, contemplated only a charge of common assault (ie no bodily harm involved) which can only be dealt with summarily ie in a Magistrates Court, restricted to a maximum sentence of 6 months imprisonment, but so mild an offence that most outcomes in the event of conviction are "pay the costs and do not do it again" ! Who said the law is an Ass ?



Rocker



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23/07/2010 06:43

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Thanks for the comments, just shows how the justice systems work in the favour of those whom do wrong. Nothing changes just hets worse



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