EU will regret its dishonest humiliating treatment of Turkey

Hector


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Message Posted:
28/07/2010 17:51

Daily Telegraph article today.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/danielhannan/7913773/The-EU-will-regret-its-dishonest-humiliating-treatment-of-Turkey.html



I think its correct.

cypgab


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Message Posted:
28/07/2010 18:16

Excellent article. Thanks for putting it up.

cyprusishome


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Message Posted:
28/07/2010 19:09

Turkey have no need to join the EU and they know that.

They have many of the major current and planned oil and gas pipelines passing through its boundaries from both the Mddle East and the Caucases. They are creating trading links with all the Middle East countries and Russia plus have created a tripartite relationship with two major emerging nations, China & Brazil.



So who needs the EU, it will be more that EU and USA need Turkey.

jamestalbot


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Message Posted:
28/07/2010 20:44

Excellent article, it's correct Turkey does not need the EU but certain EU countries need Turkey.

Clarissa2


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Message Posted:
28/07/2010 20:51

Re : Msg 4,



james, may I ask you, which are these "certain EU countries"?

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
28/07/2010 21:21

Not a bad article..



But let's put Mr Hannan's backround in perspective from an anti-TR joining the EU viewpoint...



>>Pro-Turkey shill and Conservative Friends of Turkey Association founder member, Daniel Hannan, unsurprisingly endorsed Cameron's stance on his blog and was promptly handed the mother of all bitchslappings by his readership. Of the more than 400 replies to his post, only about 4 or 5 were supportive. <<



source : http://stopturkey.blogspot.com/



I wonder how Mr Hannan is 'getting paid' for his stance - if he is indeed a 'shill' ;)

Lambousa Gordon


Joined: 03/11/2007
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Message Posted:
28/07/2010 22:29

Re Msg 6



Mark,



In the past, unlike the paid propagandist, you've referred to properly accredited material.



But now, to call someone out for "shilling" in respect of the Cyprus Problem? Honestly? Are you having a day off?



That said, you've referred to a "blog" that, thankfully, is at least explicit in its agenda.



The facts remain:

"We" supported the world's plan for reunification... "They" didn't.

Turkey gets stronger.

The EU becomes less relevant.

Hannan's speech at the EP is pretty much point perfect.

andre 514


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Posts: 1163

Message Posted:
28/07/2010 23:53

a perceptive article from mr hannah



what is well-documented are the british mp's paid and feted to "speak up" for greek-cyprus

although you might think this is left behind in the sweep of history and greater turkish strength



even within cyprus 44 there is a lingering whitter of support for gc "gestures", posturing in fact,

like the warmed-up offer of eu control of famagusta in exchange for land: as if!



and a rose-tinted harking-back to the charade which lubricated south cyprus' eu entry, by the back door

if you will pardon the expression, they probably never planned to accept the annan 2004 offer anyway



and so any handover of cyprus territory and a turkish army rundown was permanently shelved

and not only because local ubp politicians dare not infuriate their voters by calling for it,

but also because a destitute west is looking to appease turkey (see newsweek and national geographic)



perhaps this is the reason for the growing clamour in support of direct trade

Groucho



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Message Posted:
29/07/2010 08:10

Turkey needs the EU like it needs a hole in the head but it's a respect thing. It's nice to be invited even if you are minded to turn down the invitation.



The machinery of the EU is over-priced and over-valued. The advantages it bestows are dubious in nature and insidious in operation.



Turkey is best placed outside the EU as a bridge between East and West, inside the EU it would be asked to choose.



I agree with Daniel Hannan's questioning of the ethics of how this has been handled and can only think that they are worried by what would be Turkey's strength as a full member of the EU.



The way it's been handled is nothing short of a scandal and will no doubt come back to bite the EU on the bum.. hard I hope!

andre 514


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Message Posted:
29/07/2010 09:47

groucho,



it was only by 2009 that at least one report states (newsweek's "turkey rising")

that the eu had ceased to account for more than half of turkey's trade



it seems obvious that turkey will not be not joining the eu this time around,

but the huge business founded on its nineteen-year eu free trade agreement,

like the indian mars bar advertisement on a backdrop of a map of kashmir,

is "too good to give up"



some still enthrall us with the notion that turkey must end its support of north cyprus

in exchange for the beckoning sirens of full eu membership, even while it expands east



that's a provincial and an hellenocentric device that they themselves may not believe



the drift of "western" thinking now is that turkey has the us and eu over a barrel:

the cyprob is not a barrel of laughs, but playing to the gallery and spoof offers

will not advance the island's southern regime one bit



europe loses by rejecting turkey but some european politicians gain

Stewart


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Message Posted:
29/07/2010 12:06

A rumour ....Turkey is threatening the EU with NC becoming a TAX free haven if Turkey is not accepted into the EU!

newlad



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Message Posted:
29/07/2010 12:17

Stewart,

Thats an old one that could have a ring of truth about it,

Paul.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
29/07/2010 12:35

Hi Gordon



re msg 7



The problem about trying to be ironic on forums is that the use of ' 's are sometimes not enough ..



Please note the use of ' ' around shill and the winky at the end .. I wasn't calling him out - I was demonstrating - I thought - that 'tother viewpoint sounded a tad sHrill ( desparate ?!)



Hope that clears that up