azil adir why the need to clear his name

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
31/07/2010 23:43

after all this time then why, people have served time from within poly peck, why does he feel this need, what can it prove after all these years. I have heard so many stories that the cia stiched them up etc, after all this time will he return to england if all is proved in his favour, or is he passing a message we all should

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
31/07/2010 23:46

Nadir obviously thinks there may be a solution soon and then the UK authorities may get him extradited.

lisa1980


Joined: 30/05/2010
Posts: 7

Message Posted:
31/07/2010 23:51

Can you imagine how busy the Police will be if the situation does change i rekon there is a few worried people here at the moment LOL!!!

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
31/07/2010 23:57

I think Asil Nadir would like to test his chance and see if he can get an acquittal but I don't think he will ever return to UK for a trial unless he can leave his options open. As it is I don't expect him to return because if he does he will have to report to police every day and also have a gps attached to his wrist to let the police know where he is all the time. He must not approach any sea or air port i.e. he will have no chance to get out until the verdict. No way!!!

ismet

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
01/08/2010 00:06

I agree with Elko. I cant see him coming back to The UK. Pity though. It would make a cracking trial. There would be a few red faces in the Government.





OK ! OK ! Dont say it Coachie. We will take your thoughts as read!



wyn

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
01/08/2010 01:19

some very red faces indeed, maybe he would like to visit christies or other nice art auctions or fine art houses,after all his beautiful young wife is heavily into the arts!!



Conservative are now in power,he was a big donator to them when they where in power and he was in the UK.

Dont people tend to look after there own!!

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
01/08/2010 03:39

zerochlor;



What was that old english saying...?



"you scratch my back and ..................yours."

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
04/08/2010 07:23

"you scratch my back and ..................yours."



I'll stab you in yours?

japeal



Joined: 12/09/2008
Posts: 1052

Message Posted:
04/08/2010 07:57

May be he wants to clear his name, then set up new airline and fly uk to Getcicale Airport? There is oviously a lot of money to be made if someone can come up with a cheap airline to TRNC.

mustafaleak


Joined: 08/02/2009
Posts: 199

Message Posted:
04/08/2010 08:27

He's a crook why else would he run!

JohnW


Joined: 23/04/2009
Posts: 601

Message Posted:
04/08/2010 08:44

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/cyprus/7918866/Judge-grants-Polly-Pecks-Asil-Nadir-bail.html

Troodo


Joined: 12/06/2008
Posts: 1002

Message Posted:
04/08/2010 09:40

M-leak. If you ever bothered to read up on Asil Nadir, instead of condemning out of hand, you might find that he was totally stitched up by the British establishment. Yes there could well be a few red faces and I hope a few prosecutions.

But he is a TC, and like the TRNC fair game.

JohnW


Joined: 23/04/2009
Posts: 601

Message Posted:
04/08/2010 09:49

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polly_Peck

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
04/08/2010 09:53

From the telegraph article.

"Victor Temple QC, prosecuting, had argued Mr Nadir should return first and not use the court "as a bargaining chamber".



This reinforces my belief that they don't really want him to return and have a full trial. Of course this does not mean that hge has nothing to hide but the involvement of the establishment is certain.



On another note, it seems that technically Mr. Nadir did not jump bail.

"The judge said: "He probably thought when he left the country he was committing an offence of breach of the bail act but it turns out he was not. As it happens and more by Mr Nadir's good luck than anyone's judgment there is of today no valid warrant outstanding for his arrest."

ismet

bumbum


Joined: 18/06/2009
Posts: 743

Message Posted:
04/08/2010 10:25

hes in uk !!!

BrightonJim


Joined: 27/07/2010
Posts: 145

Message Posted:
04/08/2010 10:47

At the time of Mr Nadir's arrest, I was working with a highly respectable firm of Solicitors who were conducting his defence. The Crown raided their offices and removed their client's (Mr Nadir) files including privileged documents. The Solicitors immediately obtained an injunction, the Judge ordering that pending the substantive hearing, the files should be placed in sealed bags and remain with the Crown.

At the substantive hearing it was ordered that the sealed bags be returned to the Solicitors but surprise, surprise the seals had been broken and with little doubt the files had been examined.

This is an affront to justice and the proscecution will had a hard task in defending their conduct at the forthcoming trial.

At Mr Nadir's behest, Baker Tilly (a major UK firm of accountants) have inspected Polly Peck's records and can find no evidence of funds being siphoned off to the TRNC.

He has made a very courageous decision and I hope that justice prevails and he is found not guilty

AnthonySmith


Joined: 14/05/2009
Posts: 455

Message Posted:
04/08/2010 10:51

No1Doyen - he's been pushing for this for the past 16 years. A solution has not been likely all that time.

Mustafaleak - a crook? Really? That's libel and there is no proof. He did not abscond on bail. He is only charged with 66 offences, not guilty of them - at this stage anyway and may never be found guilty of them.

I can think of several reasons why he wants this. Firstly, there's more money to be had away from the TRNC, and the slight matter of clearing a name and reputation may well come into it.

wanderer


Joined: 05/02/2009
Posts: 1653

Message Posted:
04/08/2010 10:53

The serious fraud people have an unenviable record of failure in their cases and wasting public money BCCI for starters

As the serious fraud office have breached the rules on obtaining and using evidence in this case what the odds on the case being thrown out .The collapse of Polly Peck was down to the TL a note in the back of the accounts said that they were dependant on the exchange rate and value of the TL

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
05/08/2010 07:31

Certainly any evidence obtained by illegal means (the opening of the sealed pouches) would probably be deemed inadmissible in court.



Under current legislation he might well be found to have committed acts that fall outside what is now legal. However the laws on accounting as they relate to support of share values and representation of the net worth of your group of companies etc. in force at the time of the alleged offences were not as clear as they are today (Sarbanes–Oxley Act).