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Gillken

Joined: 25/05/2008 Posts: 521
Message Posted: 31/07/2008 23:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 32 in Discussion |
| Hi Can anyone explain why pool construction is so expensive, and can anyone recommend a pool construction Co please. Gill |
simma


Joined: 03/02/2008 Posts: 346
Message Posted: 01/08/2008 00:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 32 in Discussion |
| Hi Gilken, depends what you think is expensive.I have a 10x5 infinity pool which cost £15000. i thought that was ok. john |
TRNCVaughan

Joined: 27/04/2008 Posts: 4578
Message Posted: 01/08/2008 08:50 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 32 in Discussion |
| Hi Gillken, Our pools are considered by some to be expensive, and we lose a lot of work because of that. Thats OK with us as we won't compromise on quality, so we can't compromise on price. We put the extra we charge into the pool we build and not our pockets. Steel has gone up drastically these last 12 months and now stands at $1000/tonne more than it did then. We put about 5 tonnes of steel into our 8x4m pools (many others only use 3 or 4 tonnes) and this rise in the price of steel has put $5000 on the COST of a pool that we build. We also use the best grade swimming pool concrete we can buy and all our mechanical & electrical equipment is Astral, made in Spain/Italy and not Chinese/Turkish like many others use. We triple insulate our pools before tiling, with the top coat being two-pot epoxy which goes off like plastic. Our pools are built like the proverbial brick outhouse and do not leak. Our view is that your pool is a major purchase which you will not be able to take back to the shop to get your money back if you are not happy with it. We don't build cheap pools, we build pools that our customers consider good value for money. Vaughan Octopus Pools |
ajney

Joined: 30/04/2008 Posts: 40
Message Posted: 01/08/2008 09:30 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 32 in Discussion |
| Hello, I have checked out your website for information and I see it is under construction. when will it be up and running? |
TRNCVaughan

Joined: 27/04/2008 Posts: 4578
Message Posted: 01/08/2008 10:14 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 32 in Discussion |
| It's been under construction for a while as it's not a high priority. We keep changing content as well with new products and developments. Are you just curious or are you a website developer? |
Pools


Joined: 22/04/2008 Posts: 164
Message Posted: 02/08/2008 12:11 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 32 in Discussion |
| Hi Gillken; Liner Pool Specialist build pools using Desjoyaux System.This system is use throughout the world.And that has more than 500 showrooms in diffirent country. This is the new technique of building pools.We can show you numbers of reference using this system.Showpool is available also here in Northern Cyprus. We are aware of leaking pools .We give 10 years no leak guarantee on our system. Our major priority is to build pool without leaking.If you are interested you can visit our office to explain to you how this construction done step by step...What is the advantages of using this sytem? Easy to maintain and not very expensive. And why existing pools convert there pools into this system. You can visit Desjoyaux website aswell to learn more: http://www.desjoyaux.com Kind Regards, Pools 0533-8760066 cyprusacart@yahoo.com |
Gillken

Joined: 25/05/2008 Posts: 521
Message Posted: 02/08/2008 12:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 32 in Discussion |
| Thanks everyone I was given a quote of 19k from my developer for a 10x5 pool. We have just returned from the TRNC so it will be a while before a return visit so anyone send info please and we will consider all. I do prefare the idea of a liner pool. Gill |
Chris

Joined: 26/03/2008 Posts: 454
Message Posted: 02/08/2008 16:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 32 in Discussion |
| TRNC Vaughan My son is a web site developer if you need one Chris |
TUNALI I CON

Joined: 16/11/2007 Posts: 35
Message Posted: 01/10/2008 16:03 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 32 in Discussion |
| Pool is luxury if you want real pool you should use best material. So if you want to build 8*4 pool it's price is 17000stg. or if you want to use normal stone on your pool 15000 stg for8*4 pools. Do not build a pool before visiting tunalı construction. info@tunaliinsaat.com |
kibsolar

Joined: 14/09/2008 Posts: 552
Message Posted: 01/10/2008 18:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 32 in Discussion |
| Octopus pools is one of the only Pool construction companies I have ever meet in TRNC which takes the pool building subject so serious. I have worked with many, also Big TRNC names and also the very cheap builders. Beware. Compare the written technical and price offers, compare the concrete used and the steel ammount. Also Pumps, filters and pipes should all be in the right size! Most companies use to small filters, crap pumps, non closing and cheap valves and much tooo small pipes. Take your time.. We have just renovated an old pool 4x10 and it cost us 6500STG! (New Steel frame, concrete, sealing and tiles) My next pool will be defenitively be a Octopus build Pool with a chemical free NECON system. |
mickey rourke

Joined: 27/08/2008 Posts: 157
Message Posted: 02/10/2008 07:03 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 32 in Discussion |
| I have heard that one of the afore mentioned companies is in trouble so I wont be putting any investment into them meanwhile nor will I be reccommending them |
kibsolar

Joined: 14/09/2008 Posts: 552
Message Posted: 02/10/2008 11:47 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 32 in Discussion |
| If you believe what you hear then all TRNC companies are in trouble. Did you see any accounts? Dont always believe what you hear, TRNC is small and some try to get their competitors down by negative press. What you could do is stage payment. Agree to a start up sum of 3000-6000 stg ? Then you pay as you see the progress. But there is ALWAYS a risk in Cyprus. Which company are we talkin about as there are 3- 4 companies above.. |
ataturk

Joined: 09/09/2008 Posts: 712
Message Posted: 02/10/2008 18:03 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 32 in Discussion |
| 10 by 5 pool should cost around 15000 stg with a two metre terrace all round. I built my pool 12 by 6 kidney shape for 19000 stg but used high quality products. I would say get recommendations and go and have a look at pools old and new and dont give too much money up front |
Rogerdodger

Joined: 24/04/2008 Posts: 271
Message Posted: 02/10/2008 18:20 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 32 in Discussion |
| V, Do you sell pool covers 10X5 pool, is so can you email me off site with prices |
TRNCVaughan

Joined: 27/04/2008 Posts: 4578
Message Posted: 03/10/2008 08:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 32 in Discussion |
| For pool covers try Cyprus Heat Pumps on 0533 844 5624. No connection with Octopus Pools, just know he sells/used to sell them. |
jamesfair

Joined: 20/10/2008 Posts: 6
Message Posted: 20/10/2008 13:25 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 32 in Discussion |
| That sounds good value. I have been quoted substantially more than that. Are you happy with the pool and can you recommend the builder as I am looking to build an infinity pool at the moment? |
jamesfair

Joined: 20/10/2008 Posts: 6
Message Posted: 20/10/2008 13:25 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 32 in Discussion |
| Hi Vaughan, We have been thinking for some time now about building a 5 * 10 overflow pool. From your comments about increased material costs we are wondering whether this can still be done for a budget of around £15k? Would it cost much more to make an infinity pool? |
jamesfair

Joined: 20/10/2008 Posts: 6
Message Posted: 20/10/2008 13:25 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 32 in Discussion |
| Hi , We are looking to build a pool and are VERY keen to get it right! Can I ask if you are happy with your pool and if you would recommend the builder? It would be very helpful to know which other pool builders you approached and the reasons why you decided to opt for the builder who built your pool. |
TRNCVaughan

Joined: 27/04/2008 Posts: 4578
Message Posted: 20/10/2008 13:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 32 in Discussion |
| Hi James, With the current price of steel and concrete, you will be looking to pay about £18k for an 8x4m pool and about £22k for a 10x6 pool. We can build you a pool with an infinity edge at no extra cost. All prices are subject to survey. |
neil27

Joined: 16/07/2008 Posts: 93
Message Posted: 20/10/2008 14:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 32 in Discussion |
| Here is an Australian add for pools: WOW, a fully built concrete pool for $21,890 with heating, lighting and automatic cleaner - FREE. What's included in this deal 8m x 3m re-inforced concrete pool Fully built on standard site Individually designed Engineer specifications and council plans Pebblecrete interior Filter pump and handover kit PLUS $5000 worth of solar heating, underwater light and automatic pool cleaner - FREE! My Australian dollar to £ conversion puts this price at just over £8500 - why do they cost so much more in NC? |
fire starter

Joined: 19/06/2008 Posts: 3401
Message Posted: 20/10/2008 15:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 32 in Discussion |
| neil27 we are looking to built our own next year. the costs of both metal and concrete have gone up this year. hence the pool construction costs are quite high. |
neil27

Joined: 16/07/2008 Posts: 93
Message Posted: 20/10/2008 18:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 32 in Discussion |
| My quote was for today's price in Australia. I know they have lots of natural resources, but it seems to me that the NC price is still too high. I would have thought that labour cost in NC would balance out quite a bit of the materials cost. I thought that perhaps the major difference was that in Australia many people have pools whereas in NC it is mostly the people who have moved in from other countries - hence the builders price the pools higher. |
TRNCVaughan

Joined: 27/04/2008 Posts: 4578
Message Posted: 21/10/2008 09:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 32 in Discussion |
| Hi Neil27, Our material costs here would seem to be much higher than in Australia. Steel for example is one of Australia's biggest exports and I imagine concrete costs must also be cheaper. Australia will have a much larger market for pools and will have a homegrown pool equipment industry, whereas we must import everything. Everything which is imported here attracts loads of tax and duty, as we all know, from tins of beans to cars. I can assure you that our profit margins are not responsible for the difference in price - I wish they were. Vaughan Octopus Pools |
jamesfair

Joined: 20/10/2008 Posts: 6
Message Posted: 22/10/2008 23:11 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 32 in Discussion |
| Thanks Vaughan, Presumably that will include terracing around the pool? Also would there be VAT to pay in addition (if so what % is it in NC?). Cheers James |
TRNCVaughan

Joined: 27/04/2008 Posts: 4578
Message Posted: 23/10/2008 17:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 32 in Discussion |
| We include 2m of terracing around our pools. Prices are plus KDV which is currently 16%. |
sissy

Joined: 29/03/2008 Posts: 197
Message Posted: 25/10/2008 13:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 26 of 32 in Discussion |
| Does anyone have any idea how much it costs for a 8 X 4 lined swimming pool compared with a tiled one the same size. Cant decide which one to choose. |
TRNCVaughan

Joined: 27/04/2008 Posts: 4578
Message Posted: 25/10/2008 14:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 27 of 32 in Discussion |
| Liner pools are cheaper than tiled concrete pools. Fords are cheaper than BMW's. |
sissy

Joined: 29/03/2008 Posts: 197
Message Posted: 25/10/2008 15:21 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 28 of 32 in Discussion |
| My question still has not been answered I am well aware of the difference between a ford and BMW. I just want to know the prices. |
Aussie

Joined: 17/06/2007 Posts: 657
Message Posted: 25/10/2008 17:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 29 of 32 in Discussion |
| A lot of suburban backyard pools in Australia are now fiberglass which is a lot cheaper but not as attractive as a good concrete tiled pool. Also I wonder how many former UK and other cold country residents realise what a long term expense and maintenance hassle having a private pool is. Not to mention the amount of water required to keep it going in a dry country. In Australia you get a lot of people filling in or getting rid of backyard pools due to the cost, lack of use after a while and risk of drowning for Children etc. With the sea so close and/ or the option of shared pools I think this makes a lot more sense. Personally I would avoid buying or renting any Villa with a private pool for these reasons. Aussie |
deecyprus4

Joined: 27/07/2008 Posts: 3452
Message Posted: 25/10/2008 17:48 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 30 of 32 in Discussion |
| if you want a quote on liner pools ask these Liner Pool Specialist build pools using Desjoyaux System.This system is use throughout the world.And that has more than 500 showrooms in diffirent country. This is the new technique of building pools.We can show you numbers of reference using this system.Showpool is available also here in Northern Cyprus. We are aware of leaking pools .We give 10 years no leak guarantee on our system. Our major priority is to build pool without leaking.If you are interested you can visit our office to explain to you how this construction done step by step...What is the advantages of using this sytem? Easy to maintain and not very expensive. And why existing pools convert there pools into this system. You can visit Desjoyaux website aswell to learn more: http://www.desjoyaux.com Kind Regards, Pools 0533-8760066 cyprusacart@yahoo.com |
pilgrim


Joined: 11/05/2007 Posts: 1404
Message Posted: 25/10/2008 18:08 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 31 of 32 in Discussion |
| New Villas International have built 60 pools in last 5years all excellent, worth a Look, no connection, just a satisfied customer. |
pools


Joined: 22/04/2008 Posts: 164
Message Posted: 25/10/2008 21:53 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 32 of 32 in Discussion |
| Hi Sissy, The approximate price of 8 x 4 swimming pool using liner is £14,000 and we are using the Desjoyaux System from France.Showpool available in Esentepe area, Catalkoy and Karsiyaka. http://www.desjoyaux.com If you do preffered a tiled pools the approximate price for 8 x 4 pools is about £15,000.Ongoing project in Alsancak is available for viewing. The Liner pools include a 10 years no leak guarantee and the Tiled pools are 2 years guarantee. Please take a look on this link,it may can help you why do most of the pool customers preffered the Desjoyaux system. http://www.desjoyauxusa.com/why_filtration.htm Please do not hesitate to meet us before you decide. You can visit our office for more assistance or contact Mr. Erkan. LPS Pools gsm: +905338760066 office:0392-8213108 |
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