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No1Doyen
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Message Posted: 06/08/2010 14:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 21 in Discussion |
| Russian premier Vladimir Putin has ordered a halt to all exports of wheat and other grains from August 15, raising the stakes dramatically in the crisis over wheat supplies. "This is very serious," said Abdolreza Abbassanian, chief grain economist at the UN Food and Agriculture Organization. "It's a desperate situation because it has caught everybody off guard. We're not facing the situation of two years ago but there is a risk of destabilising panic," the Telegraph reports |
TRNCVaughan
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Message Posted: 06/08/2010 15:06 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 21 in Discussion |
| "We're not facing the situation of two years ago but there is a risk of destabilising panic." I don't remember the situation 2 years ago, so it can't be that bad...... |
ilovecyprus
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Message Posted: 06/08/2010 15:11 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 21 in Discussion |
| I am sure I was reading the other day that wheat production has been sound this year, in fact the UK has increased it's yield by something like 7%. Perhaps I read it wrongly. |
dizzycows
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Message Posted: 06/08/2010 15:19 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 21 in Discussion |
| Russia have had a bad wheat crop so will be keeping most of their crop for home consumption. But the good news is the European crop had been underestimated last month so it looks like a bumper crop there... Food prices are bound to go up, as a lot of the crop has already been forward bought by countries that have the dosh..... |
TRNCVaughan
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Message Posted: 06/08/2010 15:23 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 21 in Discussion |
| Per head of population, I understand that Turkey is the biggest consumer of bread in the world. This also applies to Yoghurt. I'm not sure about family sized bottles of Coke, though. |
cooper
Joined: 23/10/2007 Posts: 3386
Message Posted: 06/08/2010 19:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 21 in Discussion |
| Its no surprise to me, I've been expecting this to crop up !! |
cyprusishome
Joined: 31/03/2007 Posts: 2381
Message Posted: 06/08/2010 19:32 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 21 in Discussion |
| Russia are protecting their assets quite correctly because large parts of the country is on fire at the moment. It would be crass stupidity to sell wheat on the world market when they do not know what damage has been done and is still happening to their crops. Werll done for forward planning Mr Putin. |
ilovecyprus
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Message Posted: 06/08/2010 20:03 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 21 in Discussion |
| You are right Dave. I would encourage Putin to stay open and informative about the impact. He does not want his actions to be viewed purely as an act of protectionism. Russia may be viewed as an unreliable trading partner. Much damage has been done over its oil and gas. |
Marisa
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Message Posted: 07/08/2010 06:26 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 21 in Discussion |
| The topic is How will this affect food prices in the TRNC. Stick to it. |
Groucho
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Message Posted: 07/08/2010 07:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 21 in Discussion |
| I believe that Turkey and Bulgaria (the breadbasket of Europe) produce all the grain they need. The TRNC produces quite a lot of grain on the plain the other side of the mountains. |
cyprusishome
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Message Posted: 07/08/2010 08:08 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 21 in Discussion |
| marisa. we are analysing the situation to ascertain if there may be any affect in TRNC. Russia has made a decision that probably will not directly cause any impact on TRNC however panic buying on world markets may drive up prices in panic buying. So far you are the one that has made no input to the debate!!!!!!! Excepting cooper of course that always has his own slant on things!! lol |
Groucho
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Message Posted: 07/08/2010 08:30 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 21 in Discussion |
| Being Russian (as I believe Marisa is) I think you've touched a raw nerve David. Marisa, what is your view of the Russian grain harvest and its distribution? |
deputydawg
Joined: 30/03/2010 Posts: 1727
Message Posted: 07/08/2010 11:14 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 21 in Discussion |
| More cynical than that. Will those who trade in grain, jump on the bandwagon of price increases, even if their business in unaffected by the situation in Russia ? |
No1Doyen
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Message Posted: 07/08/2010 11:49 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 21 in Discussion |
| Deputydawg - you bet they will. |
ilovecyprus
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Message Posted: 07/08/2010 12:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 21 in Discussion |
| Does anybody know how many countries are dependent on Russia for their grain and which countries? Just curious |
Marisa
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Message Posted: 07/08/2010 13:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 21 in Discussion |
| Groucho even with this summer situation in Russia-drought -the grain harvest is better than last year(acccording to Putin). You know Russia is a vast country and if in one part we have a disaster like dought it does not mean it affects the whole country. I do not think it affects foreign partners as well but I agree with deputydawg those who trade in grain can jump on the bandwagon of price increases, even if their business in unaffected by the situation in Russia |
ilovecyprus
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Message Posted: 07/08/2010 14:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 21 in Discussion |
| msge 16 "even with this summer situation in Russia-drought -the grain harvest is better than last year(acccording to Putin). You know Russia is a vast country and if in one part we have a disaster like dought it does not mean it affects the whole country" Are you saying there are no grain shortages? If there are none, why is Putin halting exports? |
No1Doyen
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Message Posted: 07/08/2010 14:19 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 21 in Discussion |
| He's obviously stock building for a reason. |
MarkVPiazza
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Message Posted: 07/08/2010 14:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 21 in Discussion |
| I think Putin likes to try and hype up any commodity Russia has - he did the same when oil was peaking. Good bit of drama always keeps the peasants occupied, and stops them looking at other things..... (remember bird flu and the financial crisis here?) |
deputydawg
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Message Posted: 07/08/2010 14:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 21 in Discussion |
| More cynicism. Grains are an essential ingredient of Vodka and Putin will not export what brings him the popularity votes of the p..sheads ! |
ROBnJO
Joined: 30/06/2008 Posts: 1289
Message Posted: 07/08/2010 15:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 21 in Discussion |
| Are Russia that important as a grain supplier? Rank Country Grain Production inc. Wheat Maize Barley (million tonnes) 1. United States 376.6 64.5 295.0 5.1 2. European Union* 290.6 139.0 58.1 61.5 3. China 273.5 112.0 152.0 3.7 4. India 114.3 78.0 18.0 1.3 5. Russia 85.6 51.5 - 18.0 6. Brazil 62.6 5.0 55.0 - 7. Canada 49.0 24.5 9.9 10.5 8. Argentina 42.3 14.0 22.8 1.5 |
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