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keldanreb

Joined: 17/09/2009 Posts: 212
Message Posted: 10/08/2010 00:23 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 24 in Discussion |
| stood on a weaver fish in winchelsea,worse pain ever. is there any in cyprus.? |
greenman

Joined: 16/02/2008 Posts: 526
Message Posted: 10/08/2010 00:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 24 in Discussion |
| Did you put your foot in hot water for about 15 minutes? Did you know that your wee (or from someone else!!) will also do to soak your foot in as an emergency. |
LaptaMike

Joined: 07/10/2009 Posts: 1679
Message Posted: 10/08/2010 00:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 24 in Discussion |
| yes there are them in cyprus, best to wear beach shoes or something similar if you go in a rocky sea shore |
racoonchic


Joined: 17/11/2008 Posts: 3223
Message Posted: 10/08/2010 07:28 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 24 in Discussion |
| my mate has had 15 injections and been on a drip after touchin one of these |
Groucho


Joined: 26/04/2008 Posts: 7993
Message Posted: 10/08/2010 07:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 24 in Discussion |
| Are you sure it wasn't 15 dodgy injections and been on a trip.. |
Jovial_John

Joined: 31/01/2009 Posts: 1024
Message Posted: 10/08/2010 13:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 24 in Discussion |
| Message 2 - the only remedy is hot water - as hot as you can stand withut burning yourself. Any heat eases the pain but the toxin is actually destroyed over 40C - but the water needs to be hotter to heat your flesh to +40. Message 3 - this is wrong. The weever (not weaver) spends its time in ambush buried in sand with just its spines showing. It is on a sandy bottom - not on rocks - that you need protection. Although you will occasionally find them stranded in rock pools. However, as there are scorpion fish here, you do also need foot protection on rocks aswell. |
deecyprus4

Joined: 27/07/2008 Posts: 3452
Message Posted: 10/08/2010 13:15 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 24 in Discussion |
| Ok what is a weaver fish, I have never heard of them. |
deecyprus4

Joined: 27/07/2008 Posts: 3452
Message Posted: 10/08/2010 13:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 24 in Discussion |
| Just googled it, nasty little bugger isn't it lol. |
Spearfish


Joined: 23/04/2010 Posts: 149
Message Posted: 11/08/2010 20:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 24 in Discussion |
| I Didnt ever hear of anyone here in cyprus being stung by a weever after standing on it. Has it ever happened? There are 3 types of weever. lesser ... greater... and stargazer. Maybe the one here is not the one that stays in shallow water. I know that in other countries people often stand on them. they are Deadly venomous! |
JohhnyLee

Joined: 25/04/2009 Posts: 2495
Message Posted: 11/08/2010 20:16 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 24 in Discussion |
| Yes have heard of several people stung here, one of our friends went in the water at escape and got stung off one buried in the sand, and yes they are generally always in sandy areas, I have had 2 friends though in the Uk who have been stung by them off the Welsh coast whilst out at sea fishing. They are very common in the Uk, around Aberdovey they have signs up telling you about them and what to do if you get stung etc. I had a scary episode last year whilst swimming off my boat near snake Island here in TRNC, I was approached by a Ray about a Metre wide, To close for comfort. |
jimbo

Joined: 12/07/2007 Posts: 150
Message Posted: 11/08/2010 21:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 24 in Discussion |
| My daughter stood on one at golden beach on the karpas, it only scratched her and she reckons it is still the worse pain she ever felt. |
keldanreb

Joined: 17/09/2009 Posts: 212
Message Posted: 11/08/2010 21:36 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 24 in Discussion |
| my foot and leg started to go red,my toes went like raw sausages.the pain is like petrol poured on your leg and someone setting light to it.l was pulling my nephew in a dinghy in shallow sea.the time i got to where we were sunbathing ,l was vertually fainting with the pain.my leg was twice the size of the other one.all i could think about was ,thank god it was me,not my nephew,who was only 6 at the time. wear sea slippers,believe me.+ |
steveafc

Joined: 12/12/2008 Posts: 405
Message Posted: 11/08/2010 22:01 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 24 in Discussion |
| message 6 is correct weever fish here? hmmm.........i don't think so but there is a Turkish version which is a nasty little bugger ! |
Spearfish


Joined: 23/04/2010 Posts: 149
Message Posted: 12/08/2010 21:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 24 in Discussion |
| message 13. The weever fish here as far as im aware due to research is the greater weever, (ragina) in turkish and is plenty capable of killing you. Its the most venomous thing in the sea here bar none. more venomous than the scorpion fish, squirel fish, spinefoot, fireworm and all of the local jellyfish. sea shoes are a good Idea. |
JohhnyLee

Joined: 25/04/2009 Posts: 2495
Message Posted: 12/08/2010 22:26 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 24 in Discussion |
| I think sea shoes are essential. |
Chelpet

Joined: 10/03/2010 Posts: 253
Message Posted: 12/08/2010 22:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 24 in Discussion |
| We quite often catch them whilst fishing for sandeels in Kent, these are mainly the lesser weever but they still hurt like hell, best dealt with a pair of long nosed pliers, not advisable to stamp on them to kill them, even seagulls wont touch them. Peter |
Tenakoutou


Joined: 27/07/2009 Posts: 4110
Message Posted: 13/08/2010 10:28 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 24 in Discussion |
| Spearfish: Thanks for the [photo] link - a great picture! I certainly second your sound advice re wearing 'sea shoes' in Cyprus. I've always worn ankle zip-up neoprene hard sole sea boots, because of the type of swim fins I use [Mares Plana Avanti]. With these boots [not cheap!], if you accidentally step on a sea urchin, or broken glass, you're protected. |
Spearfish


Joined: 23/04/2010 Posts: 149
Message Posted: 13/08/2010 12:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 24 in Discussion |
| Thats it, I think those sea diving boots can be brought here from the fishing shops for about 70tl. people shouldnt get worried about going into the sea though. there is nothing here that really stands a great chance of hurting you. I think that if you get hurt by something in the sea it was like a 1 in a 1000 chance. just buy some sea shoes and enjoy it while its still warm. If you do by anychance get stung by a weever the only thing that can do you anygood is really hot water. But the main thing is not too mess about and just get to the hospital as fast as you can. It will start off as a bad stinging pain. it will get worse to the point that you never felt pain like it. Then your injured limb will slowly swell. the extreme pain will keep getting worse even though you wouldnt believe it could. your injured limb will swell to or over twice its original size within an hour, your blood pressure will drop, your eyes will vibrate. and if your not at hospital by then god help you |
Tenakoutou


Joined: 27/07/2009 Posts: 4110
Message Posted: 13/08/2010 12:45 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 24 in Discussion |
| Excellent advice again, Spearfish! If stung by a jellyfish, or Scorpionfish, or a Cone Shell, unless you've got a *jar of ammonia handy, it pays to pee onto a handkerchief, or rag, and place over the stung area! On another thread re mossie, sandfly, *'after-bite' remedy, I gave the recipe: Get an empty 'Johnsons OFF' plastic bottle [with pump spray] > fill to 3/4 full with 99% medical ammonia [available at SOME pharmacies] > top up the bottle with Johnson's Baby Oil. You can add a few drops of Lavender or Tea Tree oil, too. Always shake vigourously before application - DO NOT BREATHE VAPOUR! [cos you're liable to pass out!] - take a bottle with you when you go out - you never know when you might need it! For [first time] mask & snorkellers - these are mostly what you see in TRNC & RoC: http://www.explorecrete.com/nature/fish-1.html |
Jovial_John

Joined: 31/01/2009 Posts: 1024
Message Posted: 13/08/2010 13:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 24 in Discussion |
| Hang on - let's not get carried away. The weever is fairly common around the British Isles and there are many stinging incidents every year, but still the only recorded fatality was in 1927 when a fisherman was stung multiple times. So, yes, it is very painful but it is very rarely fatal. And a hospital can do nothing better than the hot water treatment - because it is so rarely fatal nobody has developed an anti-venom. |
keldanreb

Joined: 17/09/2009 Posts: 212
Message Posted: 13/08/2010 14:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 24 in Discussion |
| its ok if you are double fit,but a youngster,or someone with asthma,or oap? |
YFred

Joined: 06/05/2009 Posts: 1471
Message Posted: 13/08/2010 14:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 24 in Discussion |
| This is for the TC community and anybody else who understands the TRNC lingo. Did it have it's "Tezgah" with it? |
keldanreb

Joined: 17/09/2009 Posts: 212
Message Posted: 13/08/2010 17:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 24 in Discussion |
| nope!....." tezgah"....havent a clue. how about shebbeleth? |
Spearfish


Joined: 23/04/2010 Posts: 149
Message Posted: 14/08/2010 17:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 24 in Discussion |
| I think weever fish is its common name rather than its job title. so it wouldnt have had its tezgah with it. and most likely does not even have a tezgah. Fruit of the Tezgah T shirts have not taken off here yet. One day maybe. |
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