Comprehensive plan for the resettlement in the landlocked city

tracer


Joined: 02/06/2010
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Message Posted:
11/08/2010 21:26

Ready to Varosha in three months

Sufficiently detailed for the project undertaken by the Council for Reconstruction and Resettlement for the possible return of the enclave city of Varosha and as smooth as possible preparation for deployment to that of legal residents.

The Chairman of the Council, Nick Mesaritis, sought yesterday to send the message that at any moment "we are ready to rebuild 'Famagusta, where it returned to install.

In statements to CNA, Mr. Mesaritis after stating that "at all times be ready," explained that he has already prepared a detailed plan that covers everything that needs to be done in the first quarter to take control of the enclave city. "We have drafted a plan, describe and name service hierarchy and degrees of persons of the services available, and the role that each and materials needed" suggested explaining how the design priority is given first in regaining control and also to create conditions to begin immediately the necessary measures.

greylag


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Message Posted:
11/08/2010 21:51

Tracer,

What do Turkey have to say about this,

Grey.

tracer


Joined: 02/06/2010
Posts: 442

Message Posted:
11/08/2010 21:58

As usual Grey "NO"



President Christofias yesterday declined to answer revealing statements by former Foreign Minister George Lillikas was aware that these actions had made the government of Tassos Papadopoulos on the issue of Famagusta, one of which, indeed, had reached an agreement with Mehmet Ali Talat back in town. Agreement which overthrew the last moment, the Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan.

greylag


Joined: 08/04/2009
Posts: 1110

Message Posted:
11/08/2010 22:30

This ranks pretty close to property and the removal of Turkish troops Tracer.If a deal could be struck it would open the way for free trade and direct flights.But unfortunateley the two countries are to stubborn.I personally think that is time to think outside the box,

Grey.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
12/08/2010 04:10

msg 1;



Your brothers in south would have demanded for a credible link for that!!

Troodo


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Posts: 1002

Message Posted:
12/08/2010 10:45

Most of closed area is on Evkaf land anyway, almost %80 of it.

newlad



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Message Posted:
12/08/2010 10:56

There is also the Zurich agreement of 1959 stating that all in Cyprus will be equal.But that has hardly been adhered to has it,

Paul.

tracer


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Posts: 442

Message Posted:
12/08/2010 11:05

you are dreaming troodo not even 1% check the land registry cause i have done it.



where is the equal here newlad 18% wants to rule the 82% and not vice versa .

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
12/08/2010 11:09

re msg 6



The the Evkaf ruse is a "red herring", Troodo - anyone who tells you that is pretty clueless re property ownership claims.. .. When the British took over in 1878 that was all set aside.

Troodo


Joined: 12/06/2008
Posts: 1002

Message Posted:
12/08/2010 11:10

Nobody seems to give a stuff that by international law the Roc is an illegal state and nobody seems to give a stuff that the British, probably through sheer ignorance, illegally gave away most of Varosha to GC’s. But, every one seems to give a stuff about GC land in the North - Double standards or what?

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
12/08/2010 11:37

Of course its double standards Troodo.Things will only change when the North removes the monkey (ROC)from its back and partition is put in place.Roll on year end,

Paul.

Troodo


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Posts: 1002

Message Posted:
12/08/2010 11:39

mm Set aside? Or illegaly ignored?

newlad



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Message Posted:
12/08/2010 11:43

Recognised Troodo,

Paul.

Troodo


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Message Posted:
13/08/2010 08:58

No answer from mm?

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
13/08/2010 09:06

tracer wrote, "check the land registry"

Is that the same land registry that issued two different sets of deeds for the same property.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/property-developer-under-police-scrutiny/20100806

Mind you, that'd be a one off wouldn't it. State officials in the south are totally honest, not!

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cybc/cybc-staff-clock-each-other/20100812

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
13/08/2010 09:09

Troodo wrote "No answer from mm? "

Careful, I did that and apparently it's bad netiquette to expect clear responses ;-)

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
13/08/2010 10:01

mmmmmm,

I don't usually get involved in this issue, because there was so much suffering and loss on both sides, but your last phrase brought a smile to my lips - you said "When the British took over in 1878 that was all set aside" - that would be the BRITISH OCCUPYING FORCE then, would it? - As opposed to the TURKISH or GREEK or LUSIGNAN occupying forces What gave them the right to set aside other folk's entitlement to their property

And don't go quoting some 'long ago' treaty at me - no one took any notice of the 'Guarantee treaty' - whatever its proper name is - except Turkey, of course!

What I mean is, did anyone ask the GC or TC man in the street what HE thought of it? - Or the LUSIGNAN 'man in the street', come to that...

Do we give back America to the Native Americans?

Do we give back Australia to the Aborigines?

Do we give back Great Britain to whoever was there in the first place? - Boadicea or her provable descendants?

These places were all acquired by conquest

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
13/08/2010 10:13

or according to some, perhaps we should give the world back to nature so we can get some decent weather

LaptaMike


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Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
13/08/2010 10:31

yay Keith, brilliant post.



malsancak, I'm not a tree hugger but I've got to agree with them to a certain extent.

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
13/08/2010 11:22

Keith re-Mess 17,

Good post matey,

Paul.

keithcaley



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Message Posted:
13/08/2010 13:09

I ran out of space - but I was going to finish by saying this: -

MOST Treaties of this sort are brought about by the necessity to 'Regularise' a situation that was caused by conflict of some sort or another - e.g. the fact that there are now a load of foreigners living where 'our lot' used to live

The fact that the Treaty then appears to make it all 'Legal and above board' and folk can point back and refer to it, doesn't alter the fact that it was a conflict, conquest, invasion, (intervention ) or whatever, that brought about the need for it in the first place!

The World changes - constantly...

Get used to it

the butler


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Message Posted:
13/08/2010 13:41

Very good post Keith.







The butler

Troodo


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Message Posted:
14/08/2010 10:41

Still nothing from mm.