Protest In London 4th October 2010

TRNCvictim


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Message Posted:
02/09/2010 14:01

AGA BUYERS ACTION GROUP PROTEST



The Protest will take place on Monday October 4th 2010 10.30am - 4pm



At the:-



TURKISH EMBASSY,

43, BELGRAVE SQUARE,

LONDON SW1X 8PA





The Protest is opeN to ALL those who have suffered at the hands of the TRNC Government



Please show your support, and E Mail your intentions to:-



agabuyersactiongroup@yahoo.co.uk



Please Bring Banners if you can





ABAG

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
02/09/2010 14:12

I'll be there with mine;



LONG LIVE TRNC-YASASIN KUZEY KIBRIS TURK CUMHURIYETI

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
02/09/2010 14:16

Good yorgozlu



I'll look forward to meeting you!

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
02/09/2010 15:18

I will be in NC , sorry i cant be there to support you in person but will be with you in spirit

Good luck to you all , Simbas

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
02/09/2010 15:19

Go for it girls.

spider


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Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
02/09/2010 15:23

Very well done to you all and good luck.







Spider,X

TRNCvictim


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Message Posted:
02/09/2010 16:00

Simbas, blade and spider,



Thanks for your support, anyone who has problems in anyway with the TRNC Government, Advocate's, Estate Agents,or Banks, please join us in a united front, at the Turkish Embassy If you are in the UK on Monday 4th October to let the Turkish Government know how we all feel about the way the TRNC has treated us!



My Banner is either going to say "NO DEEDS NO MONEY" or "NO MORE MONEY TO CYPRUS FROM EU CITIZENS" or" TURKEY MUST STOP THE CORRUPTION IN THE TRNC"



Or maybe you can think of a better one?

graycoul


Joined: 23/04/2009
Posts: 493

Message Posted:
02/09/2010 16:32

we should do one here on the same day, think ill mention that to ABC and marion........

stilluvithere



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Posts: 765

Message Posted:
02/09/2010 16:33

graycoul, it is illegal to protest here

graycoul


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Posts: 493

Message Posted:
02/09/2010 16:35

not with a permit

Kibris


Joined: 07/11/2007
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
02/09/2010 16:41

Whats it got to do with the Turkish Embassy?

cronos


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Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
02/09/2010 16:46

Kibris...msg 11...."Whats it got to do with the Turkish Embassy?"



Perhaps they want to talk to the organ grinder after getting nowhere with the monkey ?

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
02/09/2010 17:40

Correct cronos,



The monkey keeps playing it's fiddle:-(



The Organ grinder doesn't like it's beautiful square littered



But we shall be paying a visit to Bedford Square, have no fear Kibris!

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
02/09/2010 21:04

mess 2 - in stead of taking the piss, how about a bit of sympathy ??



its your fellow countrymen that have failed to offer protection to these poor people....



And just as a matter of interest, what colour was your donkey cart that you had before all us brits bought en- mass ?



if we all fcked off, you'd have to bring it out once again as the economy would colllapse......



then what would you do for an income ??

measey


Joined: 07/02/2009
Posts: 1037

Message Posted:
02/09/2010 21:20

Good Luck to you all Action Speaks Louder than Words.

erictheviking


Joined: 14/05/2010
Posts: 32

Message Posted:
02/09/2010 21:44

You do realise you are going to be asked leave considering the neighbourhood dont you, plus have you notified the relavent parties that need to be made aware of these actions???



Would it not be more beneficial if you protested at the Turkish Embassy in the TRNC. That way it is two birds with one stone plus not as much of an expense



It would highlight to fact to the TRNC Government what you are doing???



I can even help you out with the address



T.C. Lefkoşa Büyükelçiliği

Bedrettin Demirel Caddesi, Lefkoşa, KKTC.

Tel.: +90 392 227 2314

Fax: +90 392 227 2209



Or



You could even go to the TRNC Embassy in Anakara surely.



Sorry this is just the opinion of somebody who has been watching this forum and situation for while.



Just for the record

I have been visiting Cyprus for at least 14 years and spent 5 years living there and have bought 2 properties.

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
02/09/2010 23:39

erictheviking,



We have protested outside the Turkish Embassy in London before, they can ask us to leave, but when we don't they can't really do anything



Hopefully TRNC victims will be outside the TRNC Embassy in the TRNC, at least those who live or are on holiday in the TRNC, (who knows)? it would be nice to think they would support us? (can you make it on the 4th October?)



Don't think any of us will be going to Ankara, unless you are erictheviking, if you are I can post you a banner?

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
03/09/2010 00:01

msg 2,

Mr. Richard Head;



I'd go back to UK because I'm Brittish citizen and live off the benefits,like you.

erictheviking


Joined: 14/05/2010
Posts: 32

Message Posted:
03/09/2010 00:14

Well I dont have any need to protest as I was lucky on both occasions and have the correct title deeds for both properties and they are in my possession.



Unfortunately I do think this is losing battle this is only due to the manner in which the the land was acquired and then how the land was then portioned up and sold.

erictheviking


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Posts: 32

Message Posted:
03/09/2010 00:23

Message 18 Who is Mr. Richard Head.



Even so benefits are not to bad if I'm honest

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
03/09/2010 00:32

Measey thank you for your support! are you around London on the 4th October? It would be nice to meet you!



erictheviking you certainly are a lucky bunny, twice lucky! It maybe a losing battle, but the war will carry on!



Enjoy your properties! How the land was acquired portioned or sold, is nothing to do with me, or the hundreds of other victims, who are paying the price!



Yorgozlu, Don't know who Mr Richard Head is? and I have never lived off benefits in my life! even though the TRNC has stolen my life saving!

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
03/09/2010 00:41

I think he means Dick Head, and as a british citizen he can claim benefits providing he lives there, now you cant claim if you are out of the country as border controls are set up for this reason. They work hand in hand. I do not think for one second he does claim. Yorg is making a point.This is his country and Musims, its thier motherland and I know for a fact that they do not like how we have been treated any more than we do.

katenianholia


Joined: 30/08/2010
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
03/09/2010 02:05

My wife joined the forum the other day,thanks to all who replied to her post.When we first looked into moving to the trnc we viewed properties that were in our modest budget, we were blown away,a 3 bedroom villa for £90,000. Fantastic climate,£80,000 left to boost our pension after selling our home.What more can a normal british worker hope for.Really a lot. Firstly a goverment that can live up basic western standards,secondly,forget that ,if you want to live the dream you've got to fight for it. Good luck with the london protest but a mass protest in the trnc by all brits whether you have title deeds or not will go further to influence the trnc government.Disclaimer:- I will not be held responsible if you are all deported.

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
03/09/2010 02:12

msg 23 , so right everyone bitches on here yet do not stick together , how much in- fighting do you see here , ....i do not know how ex pats live in n/cyprus but i am sure together they would have one loud voice...

Jeannie


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Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
03/09/2010 02:34

katenianholia - message 23.



Just curious, but may I ask whether what you have read on 44 regarding property issues has influenced your decision as to buy/not to buy?



Jean

katenianholia


Joined: 30/08/2010
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
03/09/2010 03:22

Hi Jeannie,

My wife and I are coming over to TRNC in november to see for ourselves. Yes I have been influenced by what I have read,I can't believe that a country does not have basic laws to protect anyone who lives within its borders.All I have read on this web site is extreme positive or negative.Remember together we stand devided we fall

apc2010


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Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
03/09/2010 03:28

msg 26 , l may be corrected but it is not a recognised country in the "eyes" of the world it is an occupied area..





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Cyprus

apc2010


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Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
03/09/2010 03:33

http://www.un.int/cyprus/Res3430GA.htm

apc2010


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Message Posted:
03/09/2010 03:36

regards the eu..........



http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/turkish_cypriot_community/index_en.htm

Crumpy



Joined: 05/06/2010
Posts: 419

Message Posted:
03/09/2010 03:41

Katenianholia,



North Cyprus is a grand place ... just make certain though you tell the estate agent you will only hand over your money when you have the property deeds in your hand ... maybe though to show you are serious about the property you could give the agent a couple of hundred pounds beforehand.



Crumpy

apc2010


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Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
03/09/2010 03:43

http://www.un.int/cyprus/Res37253GA.htm.....with these in mind , what hope do people who have lost money on property have.......



the un and eu are of little help to anyone.........

Troodo


Joined: 12/06/2008
Posts: 1002

Message Posted:
03/09/2010 06:46

apc. Gc's, started all this, now you stand on your high-horse and shout your mouths off – Hypocrites!!!

I am sorry for all the people caught up in this fraud and will support you in your fight against injustice. But remember there are far more happy people here, not all TC’s are bad apples.







Part of post edited for offensive remark ---- Simbas

cyprusman3



Joined: 09/06/2009
Posts: 297

Message Posted:
03/09/2010 07:47

What i don't get is this tread is about Aga construction which was British owned !! Most of the estate agents are British owned !! Any comments?

simbas



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Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
03/09/2010 07:55

Msg 32 edited for reason given

Simbas

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
03/09/2010 09:01

re 32



Could you expand on your comment - minus the 'blue bits' ? ;)

apc2010


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Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
03/09/2010 13:25

simba why were the un resolutions deleted please these are facts not opinions by a world organisation ..











i only edited the offensive remark nothing else --- Simbas

apc2010


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Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
03/09/2010 13:32

troodo, first assumption i am g/c ..



where did I say t/cs are bad people ??



my comments were trying to explain why there would be trouble going to a higher court outside n/cyprus..



the posts are not MY opinions but world organisation resolutions take it up with them not me......

honestie


Joined: 22/02/2009
Posts: 468

Message Posted:
03/09/2010 14:13

cyprusman3



I dont think its all about aga victims I thought it was about the whole property scandal.



Yep I agree the estate agents and Gary Robb british but its not about just that and not just about people thinking TRNC is corrupt. You know that its about a corrupt at its worse and in its simplest out of date legal system that is allowing this to happen.Its happening to TCs who are just as frustrated and wherever theres a scandal of course there will all nationalities involved. You must know as well as I and others do that the government could turn this round easily and turn it to their advantage! There has got to be murkier things swimming about underneath



anyway still taking my dog for a walk.

apc2010


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Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
03/09/2010 14:18

probally better giving out leaflets at exhibitions like earls court "home in the sun" etc , the developers and agents pay big money for these gigs and would take notice if people were protesting .......



embassy protest in the uk happen everyday and get little media coverage..........

honestie


Joined: 22/02/2009
Posts: 468

Message Posted:
03/09/2010 14:30

apc2010



AS much as I am in a similar position to many in getting deeds and now going through courts I also am of the same opinion as yourself that media coverage and aiming at the developers and agents may hit harder. As long as the pressure is kept on and its not another day wonder as happens even in the most serious of events unfortunately its human nature and too many other horrendous things happening around the world for nit to last more than probably a days interest.



It is not going to happen ovenight but I support TRNC victim in all her efforts even if I cant be there in person I just think we need an ongoing hardhitting strategy that may not help people like me but will for the future



I

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
03/09/2010 16:06

cyprusman3



Gary Robb wasn't the only Director of Aga the others were either Turkish or Turkish Cypriot one being Akan Kursat, and another Tahir Soycan (who seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth)! why are these not being brought to account for what they have done, to hundreds of innocent victims?



And how come the Government gave Gary Robb a Kimlit Card, when they knew he was a wanted criminal?



Aga is very murky waters,

simbas



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Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
03/09/2010 16:19

Msg 36 edited

Simbas

Wireless


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Posts: 157

Message Posted:
04/09/2010 02:42

if indeed you are going to protest then perhaps you should decide what to protest about?



The problem in the TRNC is that there is no specific performance law meaning that if you or I make an agreement with a developer to purchase a property the he/she is to develop then they actually have no obligation to finish that property and deliver it to us despite having been paid in full for it.



You can sue them but only for the return of your money (and losses if provable) and not for the deeds.



The fact is that if the TRNC changed the law and forced such contracts to be enforceable or indeed had a law such as in the UK where a purchaser can serve a notice on the developer forcing them to complete then the government would be paid many £1000's in taxes that currently remain unpaid.



So if you were to aim your protests at a change in this law and propose an amendment to cover this on the basis that it will boost the economy, revive the market and be beneficial then I suggest the ch

Wireless


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Posts: 157

Message Posted:
04/09/2010 02:43

continued



chances of success would be greater and seen as a positive thing not negative.

Groucho



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Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
04/09/2010 06:52

Weren't the ABAG banned from here? Now they are back as TRNCVictim.



What is going on?

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
04/09/2010 16:33

Groucho (mess 45)



Abag consists of many members, I am writing on this forum as me, Abag writes as a group, have I said anything to upset anyone, why would you want to ban me? have I done or said something to offend you?



Wireless (mess 43/44)



I agree, this Protest isn't just about Aga victims but anyone who has a grievance for whatever reason!

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
05/09/2010 21:44

Groucho (mess 45)



You have made a statement regarding me, I have had the good grace to answer you? It would be really kind of you if you could answer my reply? I would really appreciate it!

Groucho



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Message Posted:
06/09/2010 01:55

People formerly banned under one identity are not supposed to take on another to circumvent the ban.



I would maintain that ABAG's banning applies to all members of ABAG posting on issues affecting ABAG. Otherwise the ban is useless.



So Trish or Jenny is it. You never contributed to this forum as a member of ABAG either directly or indirectly? If so, I withdraw my comment.

TRNCvictim


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Message Posted:
06/09/2010 13:32

Groucho,



Although I am a member of Abag, I personally have never posted on Cyprus 44 under their heading, In fact I have never posted on Cyprus 44 at all before, under any other name, there have been many posters on this forum using various pseudonyms, but I have not been one of them!



You can either chose to believe me or not Groucho, the best thing if you decide not to, is to get in touch with the forum admins!



Whatever my name is, at least my E Mail is there for everyone to see, unlike some, I try to be honest, just trying to fight my corner, there have been many banned members who have returned under different guises! is it just me you have a problem with? even though I never contributed as Abag



Abag have worked long and hard over many years trying to rectify the terrible wrongs inflicted on them, perhaps they never will, but why would you want to stop them trying?

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
06/09/2010 15:10

For the record, we are aware that TRNC Victim is a different poster than the original ABAG poster (whose ban is under review).



ABAG received the ban for a specific reason which TRNC Victim has not transgressed and is therefore welcome to post here.





Harold2555

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
06/09/2010 15:33

This will get media coverage and thats the main thing to get the message across.

Maybe the next protest should be outside the Old Baily next time the wonderfull Mr Nadir is due in court?

He is getting lots of media coverage, why not ride that for your own benefits!

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
06/09/2010 16:20

Harold 2555 (mess 50) Thank you!



Blade (mess 51)



How right you are, watch this space!

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
06/09/2010 21:45

I just want to ensure that everyone in the UK on 4th October who has a problem of any kind with the TRNC Government joins us at the Turkish Embassy in Belgrave Square between 10.30am - 4.30pm you will be made very welcome, even if you can only come for a short time!



We would love to meet you all!

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
07/09/2010 01:01

guys i have said before the internet is more powerfull than a protest ,, IF you make one english paper i will be surpised , then nexts days fish n chips wrapper,



get organised get some good websites and they wiil have to listen....



but wish you all the best and hope it is not raining that day .............

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
07/09/2010 11:39

To have banned ABAG was a churlish and unnecessary act on the part of Forum Admin. - quite obviously enacted to protect the reputation of TRNC. In actual fact, such action has been more detrimental!



Forum Admin. should hastily re-instate ABAG's membership, never mind stating that it is 'under review' - what a cop-out!

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
09/09/2010 21:26

Yes Tenakoutou it was extremely churlish, but we move on



The 4th October is very important for all victims of the TRNC! If you don't consider yourself a victim, but would like to support the very many victims, please join us :-



OUTSIDE THE TURKISH EMBASSY IN LONDON ON 4th OCTOBER 10.30am - 4.30pm



You will all be made most welcome (can't promise you tea and cakes) but can promise a warm hug!)



Come and join us, for THIS VERY PEACEFUL DEMONSTRATION! whatever your grievance

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
10/09/2010 11:53

Dont worry everyone there will be a sort of mirror silent vigil candlelit vigil here too. Pauline

will be there and lots and lots more too. If you have a beef with the property market, join us.



TURKISH EMBASSY IN LEFKOSA time to be announced soon.................................

but candlelit gives you some idea of the time we are aiming for.



The silent vigil approach reflects that we do not have the same degree of freedom that Turkish Cypriots

enjoy in London. However we do want as many Turkish Cypriots as possible to join us



Monday October 4th

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
10/09/2010 11:57

msg 57;



>>>>The silent vigil approach reflects that we do not have the same degree of freedom that Turkish Cypriots



enjoy in London. <<<<<<<<





.............dont you mean 'Turkish Cypriots whom are also Brittish CITIZENS?

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
10/09/2010 21:48

yorgozlu (mess 58)



Let's hope that we can all together whatever we are:- Turkish Cypriots, whether British Citizens or not, British Citizens, whether Turkish Cypriots or not, or any other nationality, (I'm not raciest) can all come together to help any Citizen of any Country that has a grievance or feels betrayed by the TRNC Government! and it's laws, that help no-one, least of all themselves!

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
12/09/2010 00:23

OCTOBER 4th 10.30am - 4.30pm in London at the Turkish Embassy



OCTOBER 4th at a time to be decided in Lefkosa at the Turkish Embassy



IF YOU CARE PLEASE BE THERE!

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
12/09/2010 22:29

I know I am a voice in the Cyprus 44 Wilderness! and I really don't want to offend anyone:-



but the 4th OCTOBER 2010 IS A VERY IMPORTANT DATE:-



If you have a home without DEEDS?



If you have a home with NO WATER OR ELECTRICITY?



If you have a home with a MORTGATE/MEMORANDUM on it?



If you have a home that has been AUCTIONED or ABOUT TO BE AUCTIONED?



If you have NO HOME BUT HAVE PAID MOST OF YOUR LIFE SAVINGS?



If you feel some empathy for all of the above?



It really doesnt matter your Religion, Colour or Creed, whether you are in the TRNC or UK If in the TRNC it will be at the TURKISH CONSULATE IN LEFTKOSIA



IF YOU ARE IN THE UK it will be at the TURKISH EMBASSY IN LONDON!



IF YOU CARE PLEASE BE THERE!

YFred


Joined: 06/05/2009
Posts: 1471

Message Posted:
12/09/2010 22:37

As a TC I support this action and will try to get to the Turkish Embassy in London on the 4th. I call on all TCs to support everyone who has suffered all the above.

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
12/09/2010 23:40

As a UK I will look forward to meeting you YFred! Thank you!



Long Live Honesty & Transparency

nilmoney


Joined: 29/12/2008
Posts: 122

Message Posted:
13/09/2010 20:38

Why finish so early surely as some of us have to work and woulddearly love to be there.



Perhaps a meeting of like minded people in Girne would be better not a demo just a meeting then perhaps a tour around the law courts and banks,



will try and make the u/k "meet"

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
13/09/2010 21:01

nilmoney,



The Turkish Embassy closes, and we need to give them our "questions" and it's no good being outside when the Embassy is closed!



Please try to come you will be very welcome

pollymarples


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Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
13/09/2010 22:05

yorgozlu sorry - no offence intended but as you know you do not need to be a British National to protest

in the UK, you do have to be a Turkish Cypriot to protest in TRNC, so we will just be a group of short

sighted pensioners and non pensioners, quietly standing outside the Turkish Cypriot Embassy trying

desperately not to set fire to each other with our candles and if some opportunist media happen along at the same time. WELL SO BE IT. We hope for a good mix of TC's and non TC's, we are aware that TC's are victims too.





THE START TIME WILL BE SLIGHTLY BEFORE THE TURKISH EMBASSY CLOSES SO THAT WE CAN DELIVER

THE MAIL.



DETAILS TO FOLLOW



By the way, they call themselves the EMBASSY OF TURKEY, North Cyprus - not a Consulate. see webpage.

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
13/09/2010 22:31

Pollymarples,



Please "DO NO SET FIRE TO YOURSELVES" hold your candles low, "AND DO NOT USE ANY HAIRSPRAY" either man or woman!



"The Embassy of Turkey" North Cyprus is the venue for everyone in North Cyprus!



"The Turkish Embassy" in London is the venue for everyone in the UK!



IF YOU CARE PLEASE BE THERE!

spider


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Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
13/09/2010 22:33

message66 Just last week there was a post from cypriot77 with regards to something like this he said he would post again with dates, someone may be able to put a link up with it on but I am not any good at that, would what your posting have something to do with what he was saying I do hope so..as I to have posted often saying a quits demonstration would help.Lets hope this works out well.





Spider,X

YFred


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Posts: 1471

Message Posted:
13/09/2010 23:20

I can't believe apc/Oracle is trying to convince you not to protest. I also see that she is getting abusive. Well, can the leoperd change its spot? I think not. Have a good night now sweetness.

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
13/09/2010 23:32

YFred,



Why would your donkeys want us not to protest?

nilmoney


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Posts: 122

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 00:18

Been a long day sorry of course it will be closed!

will try to make it but may be back in trnc then

If so all the best and good luck

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 00:34

nilmoney,



If your back in the TRNC there is a candlelit vigil in Lefkosia, same day, time to be decided.



IF YOU CARE PLEASE BE THERE! JUST WATCH YOUR HAIR (with the Candle)

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 05:47

nilmoney



Come and join us in Lefkosa if you have the time - can't promise the noise you get in London but

but you will get a warm welcome (the heat from the candles). The reason a trip round the courts and

the banks in Girne wont work is that there is no Turkish Embassy there and if there is a solution it

will be thanks to the Turkish Government, TRNC government are skint. I had thought about

chaining myself the the counter in the banking hall at AKFINANS BANK in GIRNE, that is the branch

where all my troubles emanate from, trouble is it has been done before, Emily Pankhurst's mob beat

me to it.





apc2010 Media coverage for the London end is assured.

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 07:51

whilst i agree with why you are doing what you plan to do, do you honestly think it will make a hapeth of diference ??





The TRNC gov't (new and old) have done didley to help the plight of the foreign purchasers....

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 10:49

negativenick,



I agree they have done nothing certainly for Aga victims, and from what I can see nothing for any of the others!!



But there comes a point where you have to stand up and be counted, it can't continue, and as Pauline says the Turkish Embassy, I know from the past is certainly where we get the most reaction!



Because they have done nothing, I for one won't just walk away!



If you care please be there!



(could you do a one man Demo in Thailand apparantly most of Aga victims money winged it's way there) as someone said to me at Robb's trial, are you a Cyprus victim or a Thailand victim)

graycoul


Joined: 23/04/2009
Posts: 493

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 14:45

shouldnt this thread be sticky???

we need as many there and in lefcosa as possible



anyone know Robbs company in thialand?

pollymarples


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Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 15:29

neg nic doing it mght not make a hapeth of difference t - but to us - it will. We will be putting our money where our mouth is - talk is cheap, action takes a little effort. If you do't try, how will you ever

know if YOU could have made a difference.



Change is brought about by people doing it - not talking about it.

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 21:00

Pollymarples (mess 77)



Yes your right "Change is brought about by people doing it (something) - not talking about it!



4th October in London 10.30am - 4.30pm



4th October in Lefkosia (time to be decided)



"If you care about the TRNC PLEASE be there"



Or you could just do nothing? (and let everything continue)!

nilmoney


Joined: 29/12/2008
Posts: 122

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 21:13

hi

Message 73



If i'm back in trnc see you there if not i will be at the london demo

HotHippo


Joined: 25/03/2010
Posts: 402

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 21:21

Wish that I could be there, but I'll be working in Azerbaijan. However, I'd be very grateful for some some advice and support, as to how best to complain to the TRNC Embassy here, in Baku, about the misleading information it is passing out to Azeri citizens about Residency requirements on entry to TRNC, and the general legal issues concerning property purchase in Kibris.

I know that many Brits have had a hard time in the past, but citizens of other countries are also suffering.

United we stand, et cetera! All advice very gratefully received.

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 21:40

HotHippo,



I'm sure as regards Azerbaijan, AJ will more than likely be able to help you (I'm sure in past posts he has worked there)? I certainly haven't so unfortunately I can't help you on that front!



British Ex pats, along with Ex pats of many other country's are victims of the TRNC! I only have the energy for victims of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus!



IF YOU CARE PLEASE BE THERE! and yes UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL!

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
14/09/2010 21:43

nilmoney (mess 79)



If your in London, I look forward to seeing you!

pollymarples


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Message Posted:
15/09/2010 05:57

Unfortunately, now that the Brits have wisened up (a little) the net for buyers is being spread further afield.

Perhaps we should have details in the press in those countries to help spread the news of the

pitfalls but as TRNC Victim says, we are the 'grey brigade' a little long in the tooth with perhaps just

enough energy left to try to right the wrongs done the ABAGS and K5's and those who have already

bought righted. It is not that we dont care about new potential victims - we do - would that I were 25 and not

65, I would be trawling the world putting everyone on red alert. NO KOCAN NO MONEY

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
15/09/2010 23:53

This Grey Parrot is back!



4th October in London 10.30am - 4.30pm please join us! if you have any, "PROBLEMS" in the TRNC!

(Demonstration)



4th October in Lefkosia (Time to be decided) please join us! if you have any, "PROBLEMS" in the TRNC!

(Silent Candlelit vigil)!



BOTH SIDES OF THE MEDITERRAENAN JOIN TOGETHER



UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL

pollymarples


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Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 00:05

Now TRNC VICTIM I must be the parrot since my name is Polly. Who's a pretty girl (poetic licence) then!!



Seriously, and this is deadly serious - let us show all those who would deny us our rights and

walk away from their obligations, that we mean business.



LONDON - PROTEST - OUTSIDE TURKISH EMBASSY - 10.30 a.m. - 4.30 p.m



LEFKOSOA - OUTISDE TURKISH EMBASSY - Time to be advised. Candlelit Vigil (Silent)



BOTH ON MONDAY 4th OCTOBER 2O1O



If you care - be there.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 00:46

Why you are demonrating outside Turkish Embassies is beyond me.

TRNCvictim


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Message Posted:
16/09/2010 00:51

yorgozlu (mess 86)



Where do you think we should demonstrate then?

apc2010


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Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 01:54

where are the "trnc" EMBASSIES .........?????

yorgozlu



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Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 02:05

Your issues are with TRNC,not Turkey.Been waiting since the day one of this post for someone to point out the true meaning of msg 2(my comments),but as per usual none of you wants to see what I'm pointing you at.

Still,story of my life.

apc2010


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Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 02:26

http://turkishcyprus.com/representative-offices.html

pollymarples


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Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 17:16

Perhaps the fact that the last part of the process to get your PTP is permission from the army (The

Turkish Army) perhaps because the IPC is funded with Turkish money. Perhaps because the TRNC

are skint and there isnt a hope in hell that help will come from that direction. Perhaps because the

TURKISH AND TRNC flags fly alongside each other on every official building . Perhaps because this

is the TURKISH Republic of Northern Cyprus, or perhaps we are simply desperate and will take help

from wherever..........enough reasons yorgozlu



REMEMBER 4th OCTOBER 2010 PROTEST IN LONDON - SILENT VIGIL IN LEFKOSA

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 17:46

Yorg, you're right the TRNC has nothing to do with Turkey but unfortunately Turkey has a lot to do with the TRNC. If you want me to explain what they are doing in the TRNC then I'll start with running the police who refused to investigate when Pauline's partner was nearly run down. The Commander of the Security forces is Major General Mehmet Daysal appointed by Turkey's Supreme Military Council (YAS). This information is from wikipedia which says "The Turkish Cypriot Security Force was commanded by a General officer of the Turkish Army, who had both operational and administrative responsibilities, as well as control over the police force." Might be wrong but you can check here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_Northern_Cyprus

malsancak


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Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 18:05

so the TRNC embassy is just down the road in Bedford Square, at number 29 where a Mr. Namik Korhan is apparently the representative there.

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 18:25

Correct malsancak, and we shall be paying Bedford Square a visit!

yorgozlu



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Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 22:48

Thats better.Be where you're supposed to be.

yorgozlu



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Message Posted:
16/09/2010 22:52

malsancak;

The issues are with TRNC,if you stick with that you'd be far better off,the rest ie.Turkey,is irrelevant and will take you nowhere other then making you a loughing stock.(imagine demonsrating outsude Irish embassy when you have issues with Brittish! )

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
16/09/2010 23:48

yorgozlu,



The TRNC Offices in London have not LISTENED for 7 years, why would they listen now! I have been outside their offices with my placard and have talked to them, and believe me it has not got me anywhere," the issues are with the TRNC", but maybe the motherland, will take some notice?, after all they pay most of the bills!



The British/Irish situation is very different, the Southern Irish don't pay UK's bills! and UK don't pay Southern Ireland's bills!



Work it out for yourself!



However Bedford Square will not be left without our presence, of that I promise you!



IF YOU CARE PLEASE BE THERE

apc2010


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Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 02:46

whilst you are there ask about this.on their doorstep..



http://islamineurope.blogspot.com/2009/10/london-gun-murders-linked-to-turkish.html

yorgozlu



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Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 04:07

msg 97;



".(imagine demonsrating outsude Irish embassy when you have issues with Brittish! ) "



Above was just a little example,however;



"The British/Irish situation is very different, the Southern Irish don't pay UK's bills! and UK don't pay Southern Ireland's bills! "

....going by your above comments.......



Does it now mean that EU has taken over Greece,because they paid their bills.





Stop kidding yourself,TRNC is an independent estate that gets financial help from Turkey for obvious reason,otherwise there'd have been over million TRNC citizens long by now,recognised or not........by the rest of the world, inc.UK.



Good luck.

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 07:21

Now yorazlu We have a saying 'he who pays the piper, calls the tune' we are simply going to the

paymaster, which I suspect you know and are just being yaramaz (naughty) Turkey calls the tune on all

the important issues where TRNC is concerned.



Hope to meet you on the 4th, don't shave your beard off or I won't recognise you.

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
17/09/2010 21:53

yorgozlu (mess 99)



The TRNC is not independent and both of us know that? It maybe can depend on it's nightclubs, and it's casino's, but for how long? it has a long history of dirty money! Oh and for obvious reasons in your words needs financial help from Turkey!!! that speaks volumes! the TRNC really doesn't care about investors,(who are left with nothing) doesn't care about people who have given them their life savings for retirement (and are left with with nothing) but maybe cares about future investors (or future victims) because without future victims the TRNC can't survive!



Or maybe you think that Nightclubs, and Casino's are all the TRNC needs? "another Las Vegas"?



If you are in London on the 4th October, I like Pauline would love to meet you, and I agree with her don't shave off your beard!



And thank you for wishing us Good Luck! I think we might need it!

yorgozlu



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Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
18/09/2010 01:52

"it has a long history of dirty money!"







I know.I've been pointing out how many Britts have brought over dirty money to TRNC because of its unrecognised status.



"needs financial help from Turkey!!! that speaks volumes"



Sad but true being ignored by the rest of the world for the past 36 years,isn't it?However,lokk on the bright side........if it wasnt for Turkey TCs wouldnt exist today.



whooops,I forgot,you dont care about that,do you?You are just too busy knocking a non-existing estate down.



As for my beard,I had that 4 years ago when my mother had to go to TURKEY to have an emergency heart operation because they didnt have the right equipment here in TRNC and I promised myself not to shave until my mum came home safe and sound.Lucky she had one place she could go to for her operation isn't it?

apc2010


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Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
18/09/2010 03:35

yorgo ,, i hope your mother iis ok , i agree with the rest of your post,

pollymarples


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Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
18/09/2010 09:59

Now I have heard it all. It is o k to rip off the Brits because they brought over dirty money. yorgo, hang your

head in shame. The vast majority of Brits, sold up and used the cash that they had saved from a lifetime

of working, looking to buy the dream home to retire in. The rogue builders were lining up to part us from

our money and then double dip by either, running off with it or mortgaging after the sale. Believe

me, if it had been dirty money, the sort of people who deal in dirty money would know how to deal with

the rogues here. We have been lambs to the slaughter simply because we are innocents abroad.



You are so arrogant yorgo, we all care about the TC's pity you don't reciprocate. You should be ashamed

of such comments.



The only really dirty brit I know of is GARY ROBB and you all linerd up to welcome him. The only land

he deserves is one plot, six feet deep and I would gladly dig that hole and push him in.

pollymarples


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Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
18/09/2010 10:03

As far as I AM CONCERNED it was on Turkeys watch these wrong doings were allowed to happen and

all we want is our money back - no new money. You would prefer we all shut up and slink off back

to the UK so you dont have to witness the wrong doing of your country. Tough, we are not going to

shut up until Justice is done. So yorgo, what you do or do not think is irrelevent.



If Turkey left here tomorrow, you would be lost..........

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
18/09/2010 12:05

Yorgozlu,(mess 102)



I am glad your mum was ok, and that she had somewhere to go for her treatment, my late husband wasn't so lucky, the stress that the TRNC inflicted on him, helped to take him before his time 18 months ago, after fighting for 5 years for what was rightly his, and what he had worked for all his life!



The non existing state, as you call it deserves everything it gets, it doesn't need me knocking it, it does a good job on it's own!



Pollymarples (mess 104)



If only!!!!!!

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
18/09/2010 15:49

msg 104;



"It is o k to rip off the Brits because they brought over dirty money"

....no,it is not.Nor 2 wrongs make 1 right.



"yorgo, hang your head in shame."



.....why?.......is that because I say it as it is?



"The vast majority of Brits, sold up and used the cash that they had saved from a lifetime



of working, looking to buy the dream home to retire in."



you said it!



" The rogue builders "

you forgot the estate agents!.........and.....most of them are BRITTS.



" We have been lambs to the slaughter simply because we are innocents abroad."



I hope you've included ME in WE as well.



"You are so arrogant yorgo"



If thats what one is giong to called for tellig it as it is,so be it.



"The only really dirty brit I know of is GARY ROBB "



I keep hoping that one day you'd get your head out of the sand and see the world for what it realy is.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
18/09/2010 15:59

msg 105;



"all we want is our money back "

..with every right.



"You would prefer we all shut up and slink off back



to the UK so you dont have to witness the wrong doing of your country."



Whats MT COUNTRY got to do with it?



"So yorgo, what you do or do not think is irrelevent"



I'm aware because you still insist in keeping your head in the sand.



"If Turkey left here tomorrow, you would be lost.......... "



......things we'd wish for our selfish gain.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
18/09/2010 16:14

msg 106;



It does not matter what one might say against what your late husband had gone through because NOTHING would bring him back.Not even telling you how SORRY I am for what happened to you.



However;



"The non existing state, as you call it deserves everything it gets, it doesn't need me knocking it, it does a good job on it's own!"



I %100 agree with last part of your above comments,because, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population this is what TRNC been up against for the past 36 years.As much as there has been alot of wrong doings by individuals,TRNC in fact deserves a medal for still existing.



As for Turkey/TRNC relationship,if you think for one second that Turkey is here for us you'd only be kidding yourself.

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
18/09/2010 16:27

I have had a little bit of good news, some of our MP's have said they will ask the relevant questions for us in the House of Commons.



One MP even said if the Protest had been any other week but the 4th he would certainly have come and joined us!!!



No Yorgozlu nothing can bring him back he was just 60 years old, but in his memory I will fight for what was fraudulently stolen from him, for the Grandchildren he loved so much! and now will never see grow up!

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
18/09/2010 17:23

yorgo, what nationality are you? IF you ar not TC then I apologise, if you are then, it is here is the TRNC

it happened. If you think I have my head in the sand, you really dont know me. I am an activist and for this

reason, I have been threatened, had a car try to run over my partner and still tell it as it is. You know

pollymarples is my alter ego and I write every day and lambaste everyone responsible for this situation, be it

Estate Agents, Advocates, Banks, Builders, Landowners, dont you dare think of me as a coward. I am not.



Every day I expect the worst and every day I am not disappointed

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
19/09/2010 14:19

Pollymarples



Your the last person I would call a coward, just someone who want's justice, and is working for that, and doesn't need threats along the way, you have joined a well established TRNC victim club!



The threats only make for more determination that justice will prevail!



Please remember 4th October London 10.30 - 4. 30 Peaceful Protest



Please remember 4th October TRNC (time to be decided) Silent Candlelit Vigil



All will be made very welcome

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
20/09/2010 07:13

Two weeks to go to till the Protest outside the Turkish Embassy in London



Time 10.30 a.m. to 4.30 a.m.



Aim To hand in A List of questions and make the Turkish Ambassador aware (again) of the

horrendous injustices involved in the Property Market in the T.R.N.C





IF YOU CARE - BE THERE

pollymarples


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Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
20/09/2010 07:26

We are confident that within the next two weeks we will geto some important and high profile

support. Watch this space.................. By we - I mean both side of the MED.



SOON - VERY SOON

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
21/09/2010 22:10

Well Hey up! a good North of England saying, the Manchester Clog lady is back



4th October in London is a Protest at the Turkish Embassy with our questions which I will put out on this board when complete before the 4th!





Has anyone got any question they would like us to ask the Turkish Embassy in London, if you have and you don't want to put out on a public board please E Mail agabuyersactiongroup@yahoo.co.uk and we will add to our list.



If you don't mind your question being broadcast on a public board feel free to put on here, but please only sensible questions (stupid questions will go in the bin)!





IF YOU CARE PLEASE BE THERE EITHER IN THE TRNC OR IN UK

pollymarples


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Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
22/09/2010 07:29

Since the Turkish Embassy only opens from 8.30 till 11.30 in Lefkosa handing something in during our Vigil

will not be an option. I have written to the Embassador making it clear that ours IS not A PROTEST but an act of desperation, that our beef is with the TRNC system that allows this abomination to happen and our Vigil

is a last ditch attempt to bring it to the attention of the Turkish Government in a plea for their help from

a JUST and COMPASSIONATE state.



I have NOT been TOLD we cannot assemble in our Peaceful Candlelit Vigil outside the Embassy.



4th OCTOBER 2010 Assemble outside the Turkish Embassy - bring only a CANDLE and means of lighting it.

START TIME 5.00 pm. - FINISH TIME 8.00 p.m. (unless moved on sooner)



we will be quiet and dignified and respectful to all. This is a symbolic gesture.



We ARE not rebels or rabble - Just ordinary folk in an extraordinary situation.

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
22/09/2010 18:14

I would like to thank all the MP's and MEP's in the UK who have offered their support for our Peaceful Protest, some I know are reading Cyprus 44!



It has taken a long time getting there, but Thank You Very Much

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
23/09/2010 01:01

Surely some of Cyprus 44 Forum members would like to put questions to the Turkish Embassy in London? these questions will also be presented to MEP's in Brussels!



Whatever.........................



Speak now or forever hold your peace? or continue with the TRNC Government's approach "See No Evil, "Speak no Evil" "Hear no Evil"



It's your choice?



And it's bloody raining in the UK!



IF YOU CARE PLEASE BE THERE!

pollymarples


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Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
23/09/2010 09:17

Hi TRNC Victim - not just the MP's reading CYPRUS 44 - thank God.



Hope it wont be raining on our Vigil, imagine all those candles going pssssssss.

There will be a lot candles - wont there??????????????

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
24/09/2010 00:05

Ms Diana Wallis is on the Petitions Committee (PETI) in the European Parliament

and is inundated with petitions from residents in North Cyprus, many of them

from British Ex-Pats.The property issues, similar to those in Spain are a cause

of much concern within Europe and Ms Wallis is personally pursuing cases and

working alongside affected groups.



Unfortunately Ms Wallis will be unable to travel down to London to take part in

this protest. However she would like to offer her support.





Diana would love to let people know that she is supporting victims in

Parliament.



Greg Mulholland MP for Leeds North West will voice support for the Protest in

the House of Commons.



House of Lords voice of support to follow.



Aga Buyers Action Group

Bring a banner. Light a candle.

apc2010


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Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
24/09/2010 02:52

trnc V, i think this is lip service, first they surely have to acknowledge that the place exists .....

pollymarples


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Message Posted:
24/09/2010 08:04

apc2010 You could well be right - but IT IS LIP SERVICE not received previously and forgive us, if we

who actually do something, get a little excited when we do receive a little support. If you get enough

people talking a little, you will achieve more than if you get one person talking a lot. Nothing will ever

change without people doing something, however little, to try and change it.



Details today on North Cyprus Free Press regarding the PEACEFUL CANDLELIT VIGIL IN LEFKOSA ON

4th OCTOBER 2010 from 5.00 pm. to 8.00 p.m EMPHASIS ON PEACEFUL.



COME ON - lets throw some more mud at that wall - never know when it will start sticking................

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
24/09/2010 10:44

apc2010 (mess 121)



The trouble is that although officially TRNC doesn't exist, it has an awful lot of EU money, that's my money and a lot of other honest EU citizens money, and until the TRNC stops it's corrupt practices against EU citizens, MEP's should be working to stop any money from going into this unrecognized Country, and lip service or not things in Brussels seem to be awakening to that fact, at long last

TRNCvictim


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Message Posted:
24/09/2010 10:53

Oh and I forgot to add:-



IF YOU CARE PLEASE BE THERE

pollymarples


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Message Posted:
24/09/2010 18:37

If you were a little nervous about joining us, fear not, the Turkish Embassy know we will be

holidng our silent vigil and they voiced NO opposition to it.



LEFKOSA AT 5.00 P.M TO 8.00 P.M Monday 4th October 2010 outside the TURKISH EMBASSY



If you care be there

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
24/09/2010 21:41

If you are in London fear not, we are very peaceful, mostly Pensioners with our banners (even though some of us have retired early



LONDON 10.30AM TO 4.30PM Monday 4th October 2010 outside the TURKISH EMBASSY



If you care please be there

Lazy days


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Posts: 847

Message Posted:
24/09/2010 22:25

Good luck girls just tgo bring it back to the top

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
24/09/2010 22:33

Well thank you Lazy days, will you be supporting Pollymarples on the 4th October in the TRNC 5.00pm - 8 00pm with a candle? either side of the Med your support would be really appreciated!

pollymarples


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Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
25/09/2010 09:03

Shortly on North Cyprus Free Press there will be a reassurance from Pauline that those of you who want

to attend the Candlelit Vigil can do so without fear. No hot heads please - that includes setting fire to your

hair with the candle!!



Both sides of the Med we are receiving more and more IMPORTANT support. This time we will NOT

be swept under the Turkish carpet (pun intended)

How does one make this a sticky - I am the new girl on the block and I dont know -can someone do it for me??? pretty please from polly

pollymarples


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Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
25/09/2010 09:21

SEE CYPRUS TODAY - COLUMN WRITTEN BY IPEK OZERIM Today 25th September 2010



On October 4, two important protests will take place led by Britons fed up of having their property

rights violated by the TRNC. One will be outside the Turkish Embassy in London, organised by the

Aga Buyers Action Group, the other on the same day will be a candlelit vigil outside the Turkish

Embassy in Lefkosa led by Pauline Read of Kulaksiz.



Please get out and support whichever one you can - your future well-being depends on it.



End of article

pollymarples


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Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
25/09/2010 09:52

Pauline is aware that this vigil was going to take place anyway and really would like it known she is a follower

not the leader, although she is not aware of who the leader is and will gladly carry the mantle if it does not

cause offence. She is happy to maximise the publicity in any way she can.

apc2010


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Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
25/09/2010 11:31

if she wants publicity start here ....tv cameras .........



http://www.aplaceinthesun.com/exhibition/visitorinfo.aspx

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
25/09/2010 11:37

apc3010 (mess 132)



Been there done that got the teeshirt, TRNC now banned from London Exhibitions!



But thanks for the thought!



IF YOU CARE PLEASE BE THERE!

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
25/09/2010 16:35

Thanks apc2010, need somewhere in TRNC, couldnt possibly afford a trip back to UK just now, timewise and

money wise.. Any ideas greatly appreciated.



I do hope many TURKISH CYPRIOTS will support and bring details of their own property problems to the fore.

We are doing this for EVERYONE not just ex pats so don't be shy - come and say hello



PEACEFUL SILENT CANDLELIT VIGIL 4th OCTOBER - 5.00 to 8.00 p.m. outside the Turkish Embassy LEFKOSA



IF YOU CARE ----BE THERE



PROTEST outside the TURKISH EMBASSY - LONDON 10.30 a.m. to 4.30 p.m. also 4th October



If you have been scammed, conned or just sold a lemon in the TRNC - here is a chance to stand up and be counted. THIS PROMISES TO BE SOMETHING SPECIAL - DONT MISS IT.

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
25/09/2010 22:00

Let the Turkish Ambassador in London know your concerns, no matter how large or how small. We can add your query to the list we are compiling. Please email us at: agabuyersactiongroup@yahoo.co.uk . You can be assured your query will reach the Ambassador.

Best wishes from

Aga Buyers Action Group

campaining for all TRNC Property Fraud Victims

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
26/09/2010 12:36

the address of the TURKISH EMBASSY IN LEFKOSA



TC LEFKOSA BUYUKELCILIGI

TURKISH EMBASSY IN TRNC



BEDRETTIN DEMIREL CADDESI

LEFKOSA



Located just across the street from the TRNC PARLIAMENT BUILDING



Pauline will hopefully be going to see the Turkish Ambassador before the 4th and will give a more detailed

route and an idea of parking facilities.

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 18:39

MONDAY 4TH OCTOBER



DON'T FORGET YOUR CANDLES IN TRNC 5.00PM - 8.00PM



DON'T FORGET YOUR BANNERS IN LONDON 10.30AM - 4.30PM

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 22:02

It's getting very near the 4TH OCTOBER 2010



Please come and support all TRNC Victims whatever their problems, your race colour or creed really doesn't matter, if you have a "PROPERTY PROBLEM" in the TRNC and you live in either the UK or the TRNC please join our peaceful "Protest/Vigil"



Whatever your Country or your problem let's Unite to let the TRNC Government know we will not put up with the corruption any more!



We want answers to our questions! and the questions are many!



IF YOU CARE PLEASE BE THERE

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 22:15

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wos-dDxpJlQ

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 23:19

Yes Zerochlor



Power to the honest victims of the corrupt TRNC!



You don't have to be there With your Candle or Banner?

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
27/09/2010 23:21

if i could i would!



could grab some good video.



As im sure there will be some curtain twitching that day!

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 00:35

if you could you would?



You don't have to do a video zerochlor, just join honest decent human beings?



Instead of curtain twitching (why you would want to curtain twitch is beyond me) just bring a candle!



IF YOU CARE PLEASE BE THERE

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 07:10

http://www.cyprusholidaysave.com/north-cyprus-maps/nicosia-city-maps.jpg

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 07:17

My message escaped before I finished - good map available as on message 143



I will give you the route we took when, I get back from seeing the Ambassador on Thursday ; of course that will be from Girne to Lefkosa but please, please, please come from all over TRNC, do not forget, even if you think you have no problem - you do - whilst this situation persists THE VALUE OF YOU VILLA WHICH IS YOUR

INVESTMENT IS DIMINISHING EVERY DAY so you see, everyone who owns here has a property related problem.



PROTEST 4th OCT. outside TURKISH EMBASSY LONDON start 10.30 a.m. to 4.30 p.m.



VIGIL 4th OCT. outside TURKISH EMBASSY LEFKOSA start 5.00 p.m. to 8.00 p.m.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 08:53

Hi Yorg re 86



>>Why you are demonrating outside Turkish Embassies is beyond me.<<



Same reason as the ECHR cases are taken out against TURKEY.....

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 10:44

I fear that the Turkish Ambassador's answer will simply be: 'You all ignored the advice from your own Foreign & Commonwealth Office - what do you expect us to do about the predicament that you brought entirely on yourselves by ignoring that advice?'



The answer could be: 'The TRNC government continually gave property buyers credible assurances that we would have their full support. This has proved not so - so, as the administrative occupying power [ because that is what you, in effect, are], your ethical and moral obligation, presuming you consider yourselves to be honest and law-abiding people, and as principal 'paymaster' to TRNC, to instruct, or if necessary, force the TRNC government to amend the laws that have allowed so many of us to be despicably cheated.'

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 14:54

Tenakoutou (mess146)



Beautifully put! could I use your statement? It says it exactly like it is!

TRNCvictim


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Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 19:20

Has the TRNC run out of Candle's yet? I would hurry up and purchase yours!!!!!!!!!!



4th OCTOBER Not far away



IF YOU CARE PLEASE EITHER BE IN LONDON OR LEFKOSA NEXT MONDAY

Glynn


Joined: 25/03/2009
Posts: 192

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 19:25

Message 146 says it all really..........



Put up or shut up (shop)

pollymarples


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Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 20:31

Well having a secret service policeman waiting fopr her outside the court with Geoffs cheerleaders hasnt

deterred Pauine one little bit. Tenakoutou, he didnt say we couldnt protest, just wanted details and an

idea of numbers. Good news I know of some TC's who are definitely coming and some Turkish people.



Pauline will see the Ambassador before the Vigil, the Vigil was front page in Turkish Speaking Newspaper

with publicity for the London Protest too this morning. I did not find out until tonight but it explains the

policeman turning up.



See you all Monday???

natalie


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 323

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 21:08

You better believe it, we will be there

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 21:27

TRNCvictim/Msg 147 - re. my message 146: 'force the TRNC government to amend the laws that have allowed so many of us to be SO SNEAKILY AND despicably cheated.'



Please do use my suggestion for an answer - you've got nothing to lose by trying to make the Turkish Ambassador ashamed on behalf of his government. Poor man - it's not HIS fault - but he should be Turkey's eyes and ears in TRNC - the same for his counterpart in London.



Please note: I have, for the sake of emphasis, added 'SO SNEAKILY AND'!



Far better to 'call a spade a spade' as you say in UK - in NZ, many dispense with euphemisms and are more crude - we say: 'call a pig's arse a pigs arse'!

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 21:44

Natalie (mess 151)



I wish I could meet you in Lefkosa (after all you thought of the candlelit vigil) what a clever girl you are, but unfortunately I will be in rainy old London!



Tenakoutou (mess 152)



I have always found New Zealanders wonderful people, I have many friends from your lovely country, I just really like the way you put it! and yes a spade is a spade!



4th OCTOBER D DAY FOR ALL OF US



pollymarples (mess) 150



Was the secret Policeman Handsome?

natalie


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 323

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 21:54

TRNC Victim, love and success to you all, we have got to keep the monentum going, for us and future generations of this scum bag state. United we stand. Please God one day you will get justice x

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 23:02

natalie (mess 154)



Keep the bloody faith



x

littleme


Joined: 04/07/2009
Posts: 299

Message Posted:
28/09/2010 23:47

I hope to be there on Monday god willing I will get an all ok from the Doctor even if only for a short time. It will take a lot to keep me away.

Mary Day

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 00:09

Mary,



Will you be in London or the TRNC?

honestie


Joined: 22/02/2009
Posts: 468

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 00:22

to Pollymarples and TRNC victim



I wish you both every sucess with the demonstrations and wish I could be there but am in the air that day.



will be think ing of you both and my situation is nothing compared to you two and many others



best wishes



honestie

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 00:36

Thank you honestie,



I have had so many messages of good wishes! I would have liked to have met you! and understand on this occasion you couldn't be there, but hey "next time" (god forbid) if there is one, make sure your are with Pollymarples and me either with our Candle or our Banner!



IF YOU CARE PLEASE BE THERE!

littleme


Joined: 04/07/2009
Posts: 299

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 01:36

TRNCvictim

Sorry I did not say but I will be in London.

mary

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 08:19

Tenakoutou, Hav e you ever known Pauline mince words, she is not about to start, she will have a full

and frank discussion with the Ambassador and if you have anything you wish to send in document form

send it to North Cyprus Free Press and malcolm will pass it on, She will add it to the sheaf of paperwork

she has already received. That applies to everyone. We have an opportunity to hand in our individual

stories, she is happy to act as courier. This is not just ABAG or Kulaksiz 5, this is everyone who has

ever been shafted. plus those of you who's property values are plummeting because of this.



TRNC - behave - he was quite nice really about a 6 to 7 I would say.



PROTEST 4th Oct. outside Turkish Embassy in London 10.30am to 4.30 pm

VIGIL 4th Oct. outside Turkish Embassy Lefkosa 5.00 to 8.00 p.m.



TUTUSKA people will be there - the fatherless person did not pay up as he promised in the press. They

are waiting for the next auction date.

girne


Joined: 14/01/2009
Posts: 438

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 08:31

Why not join the embargoed group and help Turkish Cypriots out of this 'embargoed' crisis



http://www.embargoed.org

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 10:15

girne/Msg 162: 'Why not join the embargoed group and help Turkish Cypriots out of this 'embargoed' crisis'



Haven't you yet realised that many disaffected and thoroughly cheated expatriates and sundry other foreign property buyers might be slightly reluctant to join *'Embargoed!'?



Until the TRNC government and the 'powers that be' make an effort to combat all this endemic corruption and institutes an ethical and moral legal system that recognises 'human rights' for all TRNC inhabitants, your *organisation, while commendably making every effort to draw the world's attention to the plight of TRNC citizens, by winning the 'sympathy vote', regrettably and undoubtedly, will be having the opposite effect.



Your cause is admirable; you work tirelessly towards the lifting of embargoes, with the ultimate aim of self-determination for your country - everyone realises that factor.

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 10:28

Msg 163/Continued:



However, it is abundantly clear, to everyone else, that the TRNC 'Rich Club', now cosseted in the [relatively short term - if they could only realise it] security of their wealth, appear to be smugly satisfied with the 'status quo' and, by their total inaction, have publicly demonstrated their resistance to any beneficial change, whatsoever.



I am sure that many 'outsiders' might proffer the sound suggestion that your group 'Embargoed!' might be more successful in its members' endeavours by firstly eliciting the support and, hopefully, the intervention and remedial action of the Turkish government in addressing the current TRNC shortcomings and the general 'malaise' that is currently blighting the TRNC's reputation overseas.



Now, should your *group adopt such action, as 'another cheated foreigner', I would then be most willing to join your group, with my most avid support!

Glynn


Joined: 25/03/2009
Posts: 192

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 10:34

Embargoed are strong supporters of people who have been cheated, Ex-Pat or Local.

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 10:48

Glynn/Msg 165:



I'm sure we're all fully aware of that, Glynn - but whatever their sentiments towards the entire TRNC population, it doesn't render my above posting(s) invalid!

Glynn


Joined: 25/03/2009
Posts: 192

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 10:51

Well not all of it anyway!!

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 14:37

Littleme (mess 160)



I look forward to meeting you in London on the 4th! Geoff could have made his 100th court appearance by then! a true call for celebration!



Keep going, it has to end sometime



IF YOU CARE PLEASE BE THERE

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 15:01

I've always wondered why the UN sanctions are against the people of the TRNC and not Turkey...



Money! ah that's it. TRNC, a relative drop in the ocean... upsetting Turkey - big losses for big business... such a principled stand.

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 17:06

Glyn, we know that and cannot thank people like Ipek, Fevzi, Ismail and John enough they have seenKulaksiz 5 through some very dark days, but now there does seem a very small chink of light and not just for

Kulaksiz 5, but we cannot ever let it go on the back burner again. Keep it high profile, embarrass.

and encourage them in equal parts. Staying in the background will achieve nothing.



protest or vigil attend one on 4th October, your presence can make a difference.

natalie


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 323

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 20:54

TRNC victim. Are Embargoed members likely to join you on Monday. They have worked tirelessly for recognition of this and I will now use the Greek description, Pseudo State, because like it or lump it, that is what it is and surely, must be so fed up of the Government they are trying to support, constantly shooting them in the feet with all the negative press that is now coming out of here? Fraud, lawlessness, corruption, nepotism and most of all lack of respect for peoples' basic human rights. I wonder how they feel to have all their wonderful effort shadowed by their disgrace of a government.

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 21:01

Natalie (mess) 171



E Mail me off board, I can't see your E Mail addres



X

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 21:44

Thanks for all questions sent to ABAG email address: agabuyersactiongroup@yahoo.co.uk



List will be presented to London Embassy on Monday.

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
29/09/2010 21:57

Pollymarples (mess 170)



There is a very small chink of light! for Aga victims it has taken 7 years to see the glimmer of recognizing that Silence will get you no-where..................



4th OCTOBER LONDON 10.30am - 4.30pm



4th OCTOBER LEFKOSA 5pm - 8.00pm



IF YOU CARE PLEASE BE THERE



YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE AN AGA OR A KUKALSIZ VICTIM! We know there are many more victims out there, please join us!



YOU WILL BE MADE VERY WELCOME

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
30/09/2010 11:55

We have to silent in Lefkosa, we do not enjoy the freedom to be any other way.



Pauline has been summoned to see the Chief of Police in Lefkosa tomorrow.............

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
30/09/2010 12:25

Pollymarples (mess 175)



Good Luck today at the Turkish Embassy!



and



Good Luck tomorrow with the Chief of Police!



Bet you never thought when you retired to your Villa in the sun, you would be working much harder than in full time Employment

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
30/09/2010 15:15

Cyprus.

Starting on Thursday 30th September at 2pm I will begin a peaceful protest outside the Presidential Palace. My lawyers have notified the Police and the British High Commission. I will remain there until my court appearance for the criminal case against me on Monday 4th October 2010



Interesting,



Connon O'Dwyer author of Lying Builder.com is having a peaceful protest in the South on the same weekend as us!

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
30/09/2010 18:20

The "News of the World" and "The Sun" reporters will be at the London "Protest"

natalie


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 323

Message Posted:
30/09/2010 18:49

TRNC victim that is good news, the more the merrier x

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
30/09/2010 20:56

natalie (mess179)



Hopefully there will be more, but it's a good start? hold your candle high, your a clever girl!

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
30/09/2010 21:00

Pauline met with the Turkish Ambassador this afternoon, he has no objection to our Vigil outside

his Embassy and even agreed to phone the Chief of Police to tell her so. So for all of you who are

a little anxious - good news or what.

natalie


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 323

Message Posted:
30/09/2010 21:05

Pollymarples, thatsgood news, but more importantly, did he give any sympathy to yours and others major problems here? Wish I could have been the 'preverbial' fly on the wall!!

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
30/09/2010 21:47

natalie (mess 182)



No one has given us any sympathy for 7 years! let's hope the tide is now turning!

natalie


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 323

Message Posted:
30/09/2010 21:51

Please God TRNCvictim x

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
01/10/2010 07:43

Hi Natalie, I was soo impressed with the Ambasador and yes his support and sympathies are with us all, he

looked visibly moved. Of course I was with Pauline, she goes nowhere without me. She has written what she could about the meeting on NCFP today but obviously not all.



TRNC victim, you must read it - always give you equal coverage.

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
01/10/2010 10:01

I have just heard that members of Embargoed will be standing side by side with us all in London, supporting both Pauline and Abag and all the other TRNC victims!



How good is that! to have their support means an awful lot to all of us



Pollymarples I always read your column in NCFP it's definately not to be missed, and a big thank you to malcome for giving us his support!



3 DAY TO GO (IF YOU CARE PLEASE BE THERE)

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
01/10/2010 19:44

We have just heard from ACTA (Association of Turkish Cypriots Abroad) they are giving us their full support, and will have a presence with us in London at the Protest on the 4th



IF YOU CARE PLEASE BE THERE

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
01/10/2010 20:11

BAD NEWS I AM AFRAID --Our vigil is delayed BUT not cancelled.



It cannot take place on MONDAY as arranged due to the bureaucratic red tape thrown at me.



Should have official permission by Wednesday so looking to perhaps the following Monday the 11th



Keep looking here and on North Cyprus Free Press - story on there shortly. I am afraid all the publicity

brought it to the attention of the police who called me in, they helped me compose letter of application

and even accompanied me to the District Office. To go ahead now, knowing I need permission would

invite arrest and possible deportation and for the sake of a few days - too much of a risk.

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
01/10/2010 22:25

pollymarples



please don't get deported your countrymen need you hopefully on Wednesday you will have the go ahead for next week, and the police having helped you compose your letter will accommodate your "Peaceful Silent Candlelight vigil"



So it's the 4th October for London 10.30am - 4.30pm at the Turkish Embassy for the "Protest"



and it's the.................



11th October for Lefkosa (time to be decided) for the "Silent Candlelight Vigil"



Double the Publicity (my glass is alway half full)!!!!!



IF YOU CARE PLEASE BE THERE (SOME OF US NOW CAN BE IN TWO PLACES AT ONE TIME)?

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
02/10/2010 05:13