Cratos buffet .. Slight increase .. Not

harita


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Message Posted:
06/10/2010 23:42

Heard tonight that the buffet meals have been increased slightly ..

Buffet at lunch time up from 35TL to 75TL ..

Evening buffet up from 50TL to 90TL ..

Get there early to avoid diaappointment .. LOL ..

LaptaMike


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Message Posted:
06/10/2010 23:51

you would have to be a right fat b***ard to make that worth while.



The Hilton at Manchester Airport do a Sunday brunch for £25. As much breakfast stuff you can eat, salads and roast meats with all the veg and the extras. Very good food but even thats a bit pricey I think. To make it worthwhile you'd have to have 2 full english breakfasts and 2 roast lunches, plus a full plate of salad and a few desserts. Mr Creosote springs to mind.

Whistler


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Message Posted:
06/10/2010 23:51

You`re winding us up!!!! The lunchtime buffet has doubled and the evening buffet has almost doubled.

Was going to take a look but dont think we`ll bother now.

Blackbird



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Message Posted:
06/10/2010 23:56

Christ harita - I think that is more expensive than here in North Wales!!!

arrry



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Message Posted:
07/10/2010 00:03

Buffet prices SLIGHTLY increased !!!



Good job they don't have a BIG increase !!

efendioliver



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Message Posted:
07/10/2010 00:11

they dont even have karaoke .... nightmare !!!

Blackbird



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Message Posted:
07/10/2010 00:43

efendioliver.........that's a plus?????

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
07/10/2010 00:46

Do the girls come free?!



Richard

ozankoys


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Message Posted:
07/10/2010 09:00

If this is true then it's obvious they do not want local trade unless they are seriously rich!

Ozbey


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Message Posted:
07/10/2010 09:10

msg 1



"heard tonight" Who from?



Has anyone bothered to ask Cratos if this is true, before passing comment?

proger1



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Message Posted:
07/10/2010 09:17

Ozbey, probably not but it is another great post to whinge about without confirmation lol

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
07/10/2010 12:56

Brinsley well I have never known the Kibris Liners to charge ha ha ha

efendioliver



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Message Posted:
07/10/2010 15:57

BLACKBIRD was being cynical

Bernies


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Message Posted:
07/10/2010 16:06

i spy a cuckold

diane62


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Message Posted:
07/10/2010 16:50

Ate there last week, superb food and service, excellent value at 50tl, diningroom full, but numbers will fall at 90tl especially when other top class venues offer even better value . Midsummer House and the House stand out.

harita


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Posts: 1343

Message Posted:
07/10/2010 17:42

Ozbey - proger1 .. From someone who went, luckily asked how much turned round & walked out ..



proger1 .. Last week it was 35TL & 50TL respectively .. A whinge is in order me thinks ..

The_Big_Man


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Message Posted:
07/10/2010 18:10

Stick with Ezic buffet!!

silcuty21


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Message Posted:
07/10/2010 19:06

knew it would not take long before you would trash the hotel



i remember a few weeks ago the hotel was the best thing ever and the other hotels were trashed

i did comment that it was because it was cheap at the moment



as usual when folk are charged the proper prices in TRNC amazing how they trash it so much for

"oh its the best ever"



oh well back to the usual until the next deal comes along



so predictable are some



sylv

catalkoykid


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Message Posted:
07/10/2010 19:09

mess 14 i spot a illegal taxi driver





Travelling to & from Larnaca and Paphos airports & Transfers

by littlenige » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:18 pm



Travelling to & from Larnaca and Paphos airports & Transfers







Ercan - kyrenia area £25 return £50



Larnaca - kyrneia area £45 return £85



Paphos - kyrenaia area £75 return £145







Fully air conditioned car and English driver.



Contact retiredtocyprus@hotmail.com

or call 0161 408 5923

harita


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Posts: 1343

Message Posted:
07/10/2010 19:28

silcuty21 .. Message 18 ..



Have you been to the Cratos .. I am not "trashing" as you put it ..

The Cratos is out of this world .. But sadly a bit out of our pocket also ..

proger1



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Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
07/10/2010 19:34

harita, depends on the depths of your pocket I suppose.

I know a certain hotel where I had to book in advance and pay 20 pounds a head just to have afternoon tea and I can honestly say it was worth it, maybe I will say the same once I have tried the Cratos, I certainly have enjoyed both the bar and the casino so far

harita


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Posts: 1343

Message Posted:
07/10/2010 20:54

proger1 .. It¡s not the depth but how much you have in it ..

Mine doesn't have enough for those prices ..

Cannylass


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Message Posted:
07/10/2010 22:40

proger1 might have seen you at the bar i work there

The_Big_Man


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Message Posted:
07/10/2010 22:40

Ezic Buffet being overlooked? lol

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
07/10/2010 23:06

i suppose if you go in a 2 bob back street cafe to eat, then youll pay 8tl.



if you want quality,you gotta pay.



you cant buy your missus underwear off the wednesday market



she wants agent provocateur

LaptaMike


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Posts: 1679

Message Posted:
07/10/2010 23:17

zero, didn't know they did crochless panties ;-) Thought it was Ann Summers.



Sorry misread your post thought it read 'you want agent p.......'

LaptaMike


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Message Posted:
07/10/2010 23:18

sorry being crude.

silcuty21


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Message Posted:
08/10/2010 01:42

msg 20



yes i have stayed there not out of this world in my veiw a very large antalya type hotel quite average actually

very bad service food ok port not finished and small pool for so many rooms pub in the middle of the lobby never seen more than 2 people there



i was refering to post a few weeks ago where people were rusing to get a free glass of wine and how great it was and how great the fitness gym spa ect i commented that when they start chraging the normal price if such a thing exsist in trnc people will make excuses and wont rave about it which as expected and as i wrote



what i dont understand is if i have beer money as you so humbly put it what on earth was you doing going to five star deluxe hotel what did you expect and further more why then go on this forum and write about it i find that more odd and that goes for the others if you dont have the money why go there go to where the locals go or a picnic but dont moan about it

Jeannie


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Message Posted:
08/10/2010 02:33

Message 28



Well, I have read your message now three times and I THINK I know what you're trying to say.

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
08/10/2010 03:09

It really depends on what the marketing strategy of the hotel is, if they are going up-market so be it but from previous posts/threads about this hotel it seems to be in limbo having yet to find an identity and where it's pitching in the market place. This is synonymous with typical Turk daft way of doing business & thinking!



Richard

cyprusharv


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Message Posted:
08/10/2010 11:10

The Cratos is simply a fascade for "cleaning" money. Do you think they really care about filling the restaurant or bar? High rollers from Turkey- that's what its all about it!

bigOz


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Message Posted:
08/10/2010 11:31

Cyprus Harry! Correct

Cyprus economy needs another 5 star hotel like a headache - when vurrently the other 5 stars would sell to first buyer at half the cost given half the chance. With all that haloobaloo going on, what most people do not know; hardly any of these hotels pay their electric or municipality bills! Wages are in arrears all the time and for every 5 leagal employees they employ another 10 woek illegally with no national insurance or graduate pension (at minimal wage) - usually mainlanders!



They employ 15 managers for every area you can think of plus own electricians, accountants, plumbers (imported from Turkey), and after the first 6 moths of losing money, they realise they only need 3 of the buggers in Cyprus and sack the rest!



I have seen the same happen with similar investments. Come March, Cratos will probably be offering rooms at half price! TRNC has no benefit from such investments. On the contrary they are a great strain on our economy.

silcuty21


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Message Posted:
08/10/2010 12:07

jeannie



you well know what i am talking about i think you choose not to understand



big oz the reason they employ mainlanders who creatred and till this day fund the country is because the cypriots want to drive their mercs and work in goverment offices and do nothing all day they would not dream

of doing such a job its beneath them only fit for mainlanders



how shallow you are

harita


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 1343

Message Posted:
08/10/2010 12:12

Message 1 ..

Heard tonight that the buffet meals have been increased slightly ..

Buffet at lunch time up from 35TL to 75TL ..

Evening buffet up from 50TL to 90TL ..

Get there early to avoid diaappointment .. LOL ..





Message 20 ..

Have you been to the Cratos .. I am not "trashing" as you put it ..

The Cratos is out of this world .. But sadly a bit out of our pocket also ..



Message 28 ..

what i dont understand is if i have beer money as you so humbly put it what on earth was you doing going to five star deluxe hotel what did you expect and further more why then go on this forum and write about it i find that more odd and that goes for the others if you dont have the money why go there go to where the locals go or a picnic but dont moan about it



silcuty21 .. Read the above posts again .. Where have I mentioned "beer money" ..

We had a buffet lunch paid 35TL .. Told on Wednesday it was now 75TL

harita


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Posts: 1343

Message Posted:
08/10/2010 12:31

silcuty21 .. Message 18



knew it would not take long before you would trash the hotel

i remember a few weeks ago the hotel was the best thing ever and the other hotels were trashed

i did comment that it was because it was cheap at the moment



silcuty21 .. Message 28



yes i have stayed there not out of this world in my veiw a very large antalya type hotel quite average actually

very bad service food ok port not finished and small pool for so many rooms pub in the middle of the lobby never seen more than 2 people there



Who's doing the trashing .. Don't think you'll be going again ..



I will when they realise the errorr of their ways & put the price back to what it was ..



zerochlor .. Do you think when there was not many customers at lunch time anyway by increasing the price by 40TL they will get more customers .. I don't ..

proger1



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Message Posted:
08/10/2010 13:08

harita, why so defensive, you made your statement and nobody is argueing with you, just stating that if you want better quality you need to pay for it, normally

Amerillo


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Message Posted:
08/10/2010 13:21

Message 31



Indeed to be sure it is and all the indignant self righteous pontificateers on here do not will not admit that

proger1



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Message Posted:
08/10/2010 13:23

Amerillo, try putting that in plain English and those you are trying to offend might even understand it

harita


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Posts: 1343

Message Posted:
08/10/2010 13:31

proger1 .. Read silcuty21 messages 18 & 28 .. Contradictory I think ..

I agree if you want quality you pay for it ..

Is a 40TL increase on 35TL justified .. I don't think it is ..

joandjelly


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Message Posted:
08/10/2010 16:05

It would be interesting to know what is actually served on the buffet to enable us to decide whether it is worth the amount being charged.

harita


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Posts: 1343

Message Posted:
08/10/2010 16:11

There is masses of food .. That is not the point ..

Went last week 35TL not a lot of customers ..

OK to make more out of the buffet put the price up by 40TL to 75TL ..

Result less custom, the person that told me of the increase walked out ..

silcuty21


Joined: 24/05/2010
Posts: 208

Message Posted:
08/10/2010 16:34

harita you poor soul



i never raved about the cratos ever, its a nice hotel but nothing great i never like others

went rushing for a free this that or other all i said was after the special offers im sure the free loaders wont be back in simple terms



Now the cratos has started to charge the correct price people are moaning the hotel as all hotels or start ups

sustain such prices it was a introduction and like said the free laoders are moaning like they have been hard done by



dont think the cratos cares anyway they did not build the hotel im sure for a few winging brits that always moan if you want five star pay for it if not dont go and moan the price is expensive go to where ever your pockect suites you dont blame the hotel

doppelganger


Joined: 08/09/2010
Posts: 147

Message Posted:
08/10/2010 16:42

It looks like a CARBUNCLE inside it is very plush and GRANDIOSE yet lacks FINESSE if as stated their target market is high rollers it makes no sense to have an IRISH bar in the lobby.



On the plus side the casino is very well run the cards instead of chips is brilliant( in my opinion, you can still have them on here can you ?)

bigOz


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Message Posted:
08/10/2010 17:16

Silcuty21 - What a load of BS to come up with on a forum! (meddage 33)

Dearest - I am talking from experience - you sre making statements you cannot support with anything tangable! How much do you know of Turkish Cypriot desire for work that you are making such crude allegations? You sound like one of Cratos employees...



There are a lot of unemployed, well educated (mainly in UK) TCs who cannot even afford a bike! I have personal experience on what exactly goes on behind the scenes in such big organisations from abroad. And what kind of analogy is that: "TCs driving round in their big mercs"? They are the ones who have their own business probably. But how ignorant of anyone to claim every TC is doing that instead of working? Practically every employee at municipalities are yound TCs doing the waste collections. Almost all who work in government offices such as social services, tax offices, post offices are TCs. It was TCs who worked in the hotels until about 10 years ago...

harita


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Message Posted:
08/10/2010 17:30

silcuty21 .. I don't think you live here ..

In winter when there are only the OAP's here .. The price will drop or there will be no-one there ..

No I am not whinging .. Will spend our money elsewhere .. Not at the Cratos ..

Last year we had 4 nights at the Malpas over Cristmas .. They realised to pack the place out was to give a good deal .. The hotel was full & over half was from the south .. Cratos won't realise this & as the Muslim population don't celebrate Christmas the place will be empty .. Or maybe there are a few rich Brits

silcuty21


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Message Posted:
08/10/2010 22:54

big oz harita



you know thats the truth the generation of today live off of mummy and daady and pranse around all day

how many TC builders restaurants private sector workers are there ?? they mostly study at third rate universities and then think they know with their third rate graduate papers



dont give the excuse the turks work cheaper and how many hotels were there 10 years ago and the ones that were around yes were run by tc and went under then sold on in regard to the malpas yes £99 thats great for you what about the hotel ask them unfortunatly they have no choice but to sell to oppotunist like you



everyone knows the truth even you the mainlanders are the engine workforce in trnc reminds me of the racisim turks greeks indians pakistanis suffered when they came to england but time will turn things around it has started already and i hope they take over they deserve it more than mostly ungratful young TC who think they are owed everything



sylv

proger1



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Message Posted:
09/10/2010 07:05

you wouldn't be holding a grudge by any chance would you sylv ?

silcuty21


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Message Posted:
09/10/2010 11:27

proger1



why would i i am not against TC my boyfriend is TC its just the way they winge and moan it really winds me up most think they know it all and are hard done by at the same time based onn what i see and understand the mainlanders are the steam engine TC are not prepared to do anything apart from goverment jobs



i still live in the uk i shop at sainsburys that suites me but if harrods opend up in mancs and offered introductory offers i would not winge when they are over some on the board feel the cratos must give them half price all the time, like get real stick to what you can afford dont go beyond your means just to keep up with the jones which is rampant in trnc infact an epedemic if show offs and name droppers



when it come to most TC its true they are owed as well they all want goverment jobs like the famous Robert Maxwell said the "gravy train has hit the buffers" thats what is happenin now

proger1



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Message Posted:
09/10/2010 11:32

still sounds like a grudge to me but I am only reading the posts, I really don't care either way, I can afford it although the wife would rather I didn't spend that much money.

Just not sure what the price of a buffet at a hotel has to do with your impression of the board members or TC's compared to Turkish mainlanders.

Not really looking for an explanation either but that is up to yourself.

silcuty21


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Message Posted:
09/10/2010 11:35

you sound like your bored out of your head



and cant be bothered its boring

harita


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Message Posted:
09/10/2010 15:07

silcuty21 ..



Message 46 .. big oz harita



Message 48 .. i still live in the uk i shop at sainsburys that suites me but if harrods opend up in mancs

There is a Harrods in the Trafford Centre or there was when I lived there ..

in regard to the malpas yes £99 thats great for you what about the hotel ask them unfortunatly they have no choice but to sell to oppotunist like you .. Dream on ..



What nationality are you .. If you are British which school did you attend .. Certainly not Manchester Grammar School ..

Who helps you to fill in forms .. Because you can't read .. Everything you write is about things I haven't said ..

silcuty21


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Message Posted:
09/10/2010 18:14

yawn yawn yawn

Pugwash


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Message Posted:
09/10/2010 18:30

The Cratos's target market is certainly not the British expatriates, if you do not like it or it is too expensive then go elsewhere, that's fine.

harita


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Posts: 1343

Message Posted:
09/10/2010 18:51

silcuty21 ..



The best posting you have made

pollymarples


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Message Posted:
10/10/2010 08:16

The target market of any 5 star hotel are those who can afford it, Brits included, they don't care about

nationality, just ability to pay. If you are Martian and park your spaceship in the car park, if you have the

money, you are welcome.



Thank goodness, I cannot afford it. A fool and their money are soon parted.

Brinsley


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Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
10/10/2010 08:32

'Cratos' hardly has the ring of 'The Savoy' about it!



Richard

Tenakoutou



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Message Posted:
10/10/2010 09:09

Cratos

[Greek] Cratos ("strength") is the personification of strength and power. He is the brother of Nike, Zelus and Bia. Like his other siblings, he is a constant companion of Zeus.



Ah, now I see the connection between the hotel's name and their cage fighting publicity stunt!

Lazy days


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Message Posted:
10/10/2010 09:32

Big Oz message 32

I wonder what you will think of the new £150 million hotel complex currently being constructed at Lara beach, another laundry perhaps lol

cyprusairsoft



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Message Posted:
10/10/2010 17:30

cant see aproblem if you dont mind paying g,o if you dont like the price go somewhere else



i like to see new grand places in trnc look forward to the lara beach hotel project



now we are getting wonderland at guzelyurt!!! did say it was like disney land here

Brinsley


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Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
10/10/2010 17:44

Heard this from a TC friend yesterday, the truth of this I know not as I've yet to go there!



The Hotel build in excess of $250 million

The Hotel is on a 49 year land lease from the Government

The interior though plush is decorated in a very gauche/crass manner of taste

The Hotel employs 300 staff



And that's from a local!

Somehow the figures don't stack up



Richard

Pugwash


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Message Posted:
10/10/2010 17:50

Go there Binsley then comment. The Hotel was owned by the Swiss-hotel group but they stopped serious work after the 2004 Anan plan was rejected, this Turkish group bought the "remnants"

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
10/10/2010 23:51

Msg 61

That makes sense.



Richard

Groucho



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Message Posted:
11/10/2010 07:05

Richard



Nearly all beaches and coastline property (exception is those wholly Turkish title in 1974 - like the Celebrity Hotel) have to be leased and 49 years is the max. But that doesn't mean they can't get an extension of the lease.



The land before any beach can we bought outright.. I would imagine the land where the hotel is built has been bought and not leased... but maybe not.