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lindoc


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Has the government banned this event or is it going ahead.



No1Doyen


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lindoc. Whats this all about?



stacy


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according to turkish tv this morning they are still trying to get it banned, but the owner of the hotel has some influence with people high up, so as it stands it still going ahead



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its going ahead apparently BUT date has changed to 10th Sunday rather than Today!



Full info here:



http://www.livingnorthcyprus.com/ViewItem.aspx?cid=1000



lindoc


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The no holds-barred cage fight at the Cratos tomorrow night, Vip Guests Mike Tyson, Jean Claude Van Damme, Vitali brothers some more,



The CT saying it's KO'd others say it's on,



Not a fan of this type of sport myself, Is it good for TRNC or Ugly



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LivingNC. Thanks for the link.



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It's defo on sunday night. I bought my tickets from the reception at the hotel.



lindoc


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Neil



how much was your tickets





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hattikins


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Did the GC,s try to stop this as they have done with everything else.



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Van Damme and Tyson will not be appearing, I have heard from inside information that they are too expensive. The papers should stop giving these big hotels the oxygen of publicity as not once have these celebrities that keep being mentioned actually appeared, personally I think it is all a publicity stunt. As you think fees would have been discussed before announcing they are coming over.



annie


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It's a real shame if out of all the good things that have been cancelled, this barbaric form of entertainment has been allowed to go ahead. Sorry message 7 but who in their right mind would pay good money to see grown men acting worse than animals by fighting in cage.

The fact that Mike Tyson has been named as one of the very important persons attending this event says it all!!



This is only my opinion of course but I am surprised that I appear to be the only person posting on the forum on this topic that is disgusted by this fight still taking place.



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Msg 7. Just because you have bought a ticket, doesn't mean it's going to happen. Just ask anybody who was booked on CTA thia summer.

Msg 10. I couldn't agree more. It's happened too many times for it to be a coincidence. These hotels have got no intention of having "famous names" visit them. But by announcing it as fact, they get free publicity.



neilhodgin


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The tickets cost between 100tl and 1000tl.



Bilko


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Despite the Government ban, I'm told the event will take place tomorrow Sunday. All the participants are here. Sending this from the Cratos Bar Saturday 3.25pm. Even if you don't like this form of sport, it deserves support for the sake of the TRNC and recognition and all that...



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No it does not help the TRNC at all. In fact it does the reverse. So if they set up an arena and fed GCs to the lions should we support them? Cage fighting is the most primitive of all sports and should be shunned. It is as low as prostitution.



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How is this barbaric * sport* going to benefit TRNC, if it is allowed to go ahead it will give the GC,s even more propaganda.



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Is Jordan coming?



zerochlor


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just spoke to cratos hotel. the XFC is still going ahead.



Also as i said a few days ago.,tyson has also arrived today.



Looks like sunday will be a super evening



zerochlor


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Yfred



since when has mixed martial arts been the most primitive of all sports .



Maybe the millions of fans all over the world dont know something you do ?



BillyB


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Yfred

Great idea about putting a couple of prostitutes in the cage!



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Messages 11 and 16.



Could not agree with you more. Totally barbaric.



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BillyB, in a mud bath would be much more entertaining ;-)



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There are only 2000 years between the barbaric meeting of lions and Christians in Rome and this disgusting meeting between "humans". Some people have learned very little. Shame on the spectators.



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LaptaMike, Thats dirty!



Jeannie


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No doubt dog fighting, cockerel fighting and dancing bears would attract a similar audience.



zerochlor


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I think all the haters of something that does not look good should educate them self first in the sport,your all talking like its a no holds bar fighting competition.



It has strict rules just as boxing has.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_martial_arts



There is no better sport in the world than 2 men entering a ring for combat,and the best man left standing.



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Jeannie, Not the same. If people want to fight, let them fight. When you compare it to the fighting our world leaders do for there own political agenders, its hardly barbaric.



zerochlor


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And you all think cage fighting is barbaric!!



Would you fight over a lady?



http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9bc7182559



neilhodgin


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This sport is growing all the time, who knows maybe the olympics next.



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This sport is growing all the time, who knows maybe the olympics next.



zerochlor


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i agree neil



http://www.mmamania.com/2007/06/29/dana-white-mma-in-olympics-will-happen/



Tenakoutou



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Let TRNC be a top venue for M1 Challenge, Cage Rage, K1 - these sports will take place anyway, so why not TRNC?



Mr. Eroglu should get on the phone, pronto, to Ian 'The Machine' Freeman and get the job sorted and organised!



For the uninitiated, dog fighting and cock fighting already take place - like it, or not, that's a fact.



Let's have pole dancing in the bars and, if the night clubs are doing a bit of a starve, because of the economic downturn, why not bring on the mud-wrestling girlies???!!!



Liven TRNC up a bit and put the place on the map - far better than whingeing [with no one that matters listening] about being embargoed!



sadoldbird


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Cage fighting is dusgusting.



Tenakoutou



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sadoldbird/Msg 33: *'dusgusting'



Are you speaking from personal experience and maybe got a 'bunch of fives' in the gob to spell *it like that?!



Bilko


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Is it possible that the carnage caused on the roads in the TRNC is more barabaric than martial arts? Cage fighters know what they are doing and the risks involved. The motorists here who drive too fast in a lethal weapon have no idea what they are doing whilst putting innocents lives at risk; two deaths per week on the roads is the norm here. Perhaps the Government should concentrate their efforts on road safety and let the professionals entertain those who like this sort physical contact sport.



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Look at the literally bloody pictures with the article about this "sport" in Cyprus Today (Saturday, October 9) - can participating and watching/cheering people sink any lower..?! "Physical contact sport"? Don't make me laugh - let's call it what it is: it's plain violence and has nothing to do with sports.



trooper


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shame on the organisers - shame on the spectators.



Bradus


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Just what they need to encourage the family tourist market.



What with the gambling and prostitution what sort of people will the TRNC attract?



Pugwash


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So there is no gambling and prostitution in the UK then? no badger baiting, hare coursing, dog fights or other types of animal and human cruelty? Please don't get a downer on the TRNC you have to see it not as a utopia but a realistic part of the world.

I understand they sold a lot of tickets for tonight, I am sure zerochlor will be able to tell us more.



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Msg 35...Well put Bilko a very valid point.



These guys are trained professional athletes who have respect for there opponents and there sport.



I doubt the 4 kids sat in the front of a 1970 Renault with no seat belts on are trained and conditioned for the boy racer overtaking on a blind corner at 100kph.



On another note: Is it on?



trooper


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trained athletes my arse. Thugs fighting other thugs watched by sad people who would like to be like them. There must be other sports worth watching. For most normal people boxing with all its rules/regulations is enough of a challenge. Perhaps we should give the 'athletes' knives, guns, clubs and make it even more 'interesting'. enough.



neilhodgin


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I'm just sat waiting for the event to start. Had a lovely meal in the Italian nice bottle of vino. It is an amazing set up on the port. Filling up nicely. A mixed crowd. Familys children having there pics took with the fighters etc. The tv are here. So it looks all set to go ahead.



neilhodgin


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Just got the fight card. 10 bouts all yanks. Raging from black belts in taekwondo to freesyling.



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Roll up for the next event........................... Bull Fighting



neilhodgin


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Well the next event is........... There is 2 female fighters.



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Can see the headlines now 'Barbaric Turks alive and well in NorthernCyprus'. As this 'sport' is banned in most of Europe, why oh why should Cratos think that it should be allowed here, particularly during the negotiations for a civilised future of the island.

Why should we go back to the times of the gladiators and think we have progressed as human beings. I agree entirely with Annie of an earlier posting - this so called sport is 'disgusting'.

It is even more disgusting when the government have asked Cratos NOT to go ahead with this event, and there are two proverbial fingers being stuck in the air at the government.

One has to ask whether Cratos is a good addition to the TRNC or the opposite.

Regression is never a good thing, and this so-called barbaric, disgusting, bloody 'sport' is certainly not progressive.

The big quesiton is 'what action with the government take?' or is the income to the cuntry more important - I hope not.



Lilli



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Just got back from there and no i was not going for the fighting. We were invited to the Italian restaurant which was every bit as good as having a ring side seat. Many people there, it seems they didn't even have the licence for this to go ahead until an hour before. There were governmental cars parked outside. It seems that they way they got the go ahead was to allow it as an exhibition match not a tournament. The car park was packed we had to park up the road, but there was a wedding on. I have never seen so many well dressed people. The dresses on the ladies and the children could have come out of strictly come dancing. Back to the fights, one we watched on the big screen the poor fighter making his debut was stretcher off, i think his foot was broken. I hate fights and anything to do with them. Even though my oldest grandson is welsh junior boxing champion. x



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I just had to delete a long comment I made about the members complaining all the time because I realised I am just repeating myself. Personally I would like to say that all of those that will not be going to the Cratos, sorry but I probably won't miss your company and to those who will be going, I hope to see you the next time I take my wife there for a lovely evening.

I hope those that wanted to go there enjoyed themselves, even if it was a little violent for the lovely lady who shall not be mentioned.



zerochlor


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Exhibition fight.



It was the biggest load of shyte ive ever seen in my life, WWE wrestlers are slightly better actors than that crowd of jokers i just watched.



The ambulance came 10 mins before the guy got hurt,i wonder how they new to come?



It is a travelling roadshow,if id of known,i would not have wasted my sunday.



il post some videos for you all later



DutchCrusader



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Next ":event" in Cratos: untrained lions against untrained Christians (Rome in the year zero). No referees. Ladies are invited to participate (NEW! for Northern Cyprus!). Spectators don't have to have any education (writing in their native language may be a joke - like on C44), just 100-1000 Sterling for a ticket. The more blood the more fun!

P.S. And the UK is a civilised country, they say.



Lilli



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Proger1 they all seemed to be enjoying it, a mix of Brit's Tc's and Turks. Many with their children.All the restaurants were ferrying food out to many spectators. We couldn't avoid watching it as we faced the big screen.. They were fit as hell. I didn't know anything about this sport even though Guido watches it I'm told now.The hotel was buzzing except for the bar in the foyer. Lovely atmosphere there and i loved that. had a lovely meal.I really enjoyed being there and will go back. I'm told they have entertainment most nights there, they certainly are all set up for it. I just cant bear to see anybody hurt but those that went for that purpose certainly enjoyed it. I know himself and his italian chef friend did. x your lucky its close for you. I just felt so very sorry for the poor guy first big fight and stretchered off, when they carried him off they came right past me where i was sitting. When the interviewed the winners after they all spoke positively about being here



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Sounds like it was a really good night for most Lilli, it is nice to see some positivety for a change and I thank you for that.

It is handy for us and Luba likes it there so we will keep visiting and being that fool who is parted with his money and someone mentioned before. If my ancestors only knew that I had turned into an Aberdonian who has the audacity to waste money on enjoying his standard of life they would raise out of there graves and probably steal all my cash.

From what Dave says the injury thing was a bit of showmanship but if you weren't sitting that close you might not have seen that part of it.



On another note, Hans, where do I apply for the lions night, I have been building up so much body fat lately I could probably handle a couple of lion swipes, save me a fortune on Liposuction



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Any connection, even with the close similarity in name?!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8f467O4dPA



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annie


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Lets hope the children that attended don't try to recreate what they saw in the school playground. If they do I hope the blame is allocated to the adults that exposed them to it.



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annie, it is obvious you don't like the idea, why go on about it, now the children will be affected, going a bit OTT I think.



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annie, kids these days watch the wresting and this extreme sports has a world wide following. All the programmes give a warning to the kids nit to try at home. There is so much violence on tv these days and most wont re create that x



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Lilli, I get the feeling annie is really trying to get across the point that she doesn't like the sport and the kids will be affected is the new strategy.

If she had watched any of the wwe type programmes from the states she would realise that the kids are enthralled by it and half of the stars from it are now becoming hollywood actors and doing wuite well out of it. The phrase "don't try this at home" which was the standard slogan on the wwe programme is now "don't try this at home, at school or anywhere"



Here is the kicker though, as someone who was ionce a teenager, I tried to do pretty much everything I was told not to by my parents, I survived; barely



zerochlor


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message 50



DC. Grow up.



Some people do not need to spell as good as others,some only need to be able to count.



80% of your posts are always indirectly having a dig at some 1s spelling,or something else.



As long as you can count and knock cheeky people out,spelling is not so important in life .



DC, try to find something more interesting to write about other than peoples poor spellings, it is so very boring.



Thats my rant over for tonight!



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Prodger I think you will find you have posted more comments than I have. Is there a limit to posts if you don't agree with you. If there is I'm sorry but yes I am totally against it. I'm sorry it took place but it did and as an adult you have every right to support what you call a sporting event. I do not however feel it is right to subject children to watching grown men fighting in a cage one minute and then punish them for fighting the next and yes they will try it themselves without the rules and training you say the fighters abide by and yes they will get hurt my son is of an age when WWF was first around as was his friend who is now in a wheelchair because he was playing at being a wrestler.



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Oh my god



Here we go.



zerochlor


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prodger1.



Paul.



You better not watch any more porn movies.



you might become john holmes



annie


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Don't worry zerochlor, I've said all I wanted to and am not about to get into a row on here. Everyone is intitled to their opinion and I've given mine.



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Well, I did find the return of the Olympic Games to Greece in 2004 after many centuries to be somewhat boring, lacking in blood and gore. The odd javelin thrust down a wild lions throat or a peasant not in his rightful place having his head dispensed with a disc or the shot-put aimed and fired directly into a gladiators groin would have put some spark and excitement into the games but was sadly missed!

Seems the Greeks have learnt little over the centuries to know how to please the masses!



Richard



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Dave, I am so far short of holmes it is laughable, I might pass for being John Wayne Bobbit before the surgery.



annie, I know you have said your piece and you don't care what I might add but my question for you was why bother and you answered it eventually by telling the story about your son's friend. I am sceptical about that but then it is my nature to not always believe what is written down after the fact.



for example, you obviously don't believe that I spell my name without a d in the middle when you see it right in front of you, pedantic I know, also I posted more than you did because I was trying to be positive about the hotel to help N. Cyprus community. Sorry for being annoying and thinking that your opinion was derogatory to somewhere I enjoy going but then, it is also in my nature to be just that.

I should have added a smilie at the end of my last post so you would realise I was being funny



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So, David, was Tyson there as I thought I read that you had posted that he arrived on Saturday afternoon? Just curious.



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mess 65 they spelt it wrong, is was a dyson hover to clean up afterwards lol



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I have since read the thread:



http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/47132.asp



If I have interpreted scoty's posting correctly, it seems that Mike Tyson and Jean Claude Van Damme both made late withdrawals. Some of the hotels and venues are going to lose all credibility if the hype continues and 'celebrities' fail to materialise. Personally, on this occasion I don't think it is much of a loss, (only my humble opinion) but the Cratos seems to be advertising a variety of big names for the future. It will be interesting to see who actually turns up.



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Hi Sheila.



No They had not arrived as told,after watching the show,now i can see why,very nicely staged,but very poor actors,i did not pay to watch a choreographed show with young guys acting out fight scenes in a octagon.



I paid my money to watch real combat.



XFC was quite embaressing to watch,they have got many many years to go before there version of the sport will catch up to UFC.



You are correct sheila,the hotels will lose alot of cred if advertised names keep failing to turn up.



Lets see if randy crawford comes.



The beautiful multi coloured fountain in the sea was far more interesting than the show.



Videos still uploading,you can make up your own mind then.



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Thanks, David. We missed you at the Bex Marshall gig on Saturday .... your trusty videocam and your you-tube contributions would have been warmly welcomed.

Sorry you had a disappointing Sunday night. I, too, am waiting to see if Randy Crawford actually arrives ... but, in this case, unlike Mike Tyson, I hope she does.



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It will be interesting to see who actually turns up.





Only to the people who have a hang up on celebs, most are really boring when seen in the flesh. To be bullied by the GC's shows a remarkable lack of moral fortitude.



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On the contrary, I really enjoy live performances, music, acting, dance etc. What is the alternative? .... watching them on TV or not taking any interest in performers/artists at all? I would not classify myself as having a hang up on celebs ... but I will certainly be at the Randy Crawford concert ..... if she turns up.



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Hello all, I was one of the fighters in the event that took place this past Sunday and wanted to fill you all in on what it was like from our perspective. About a month ago my agent contacted me about this match and I started preparing. The airline tickets for the competition did not get booked until 6 days beforehand due to the political issues involved with the region concerning the lack of a Mixed Martial Arts sanctioning body in North Cyprus or most of Europe for that matter. Many of us were skeptical about this due to the last-minute nature of everything. After doing some research, it seems that all events undergo similar pressure, athletic or otherwise, and Jennifer Lopez was pressured into calling off her performance there as well. We were all pretty sure it was going to be canceled until one hour before the first fight.



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zerochlor, I'd now like to address your assumption that this was all a staged performance, like WWE. The day before the matches, we were informed at the press conference that these would be exhibition matches that don't appear on our records, and there would be no elbow strikes to prevent cuts from occurring. However, to stage a fight, you need to know your opponent and choreograph the battle. We did nothing of this sort and were fighting to win each time. I doubt that my opponent would willingly have broken his ankle for a show performance. Either way, we came to perform in the way we are trained and having over 10 years of experience in this sport, the entire match was as intense as it gets here in the US. I'm not sure if you have ever been to a live fight, but perhaps you will look through a different lens next time we come to Europe(and we will be back). Thank you all for consideration, even if fighting's not really your thing.



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I think next time these guy's are in town Zerochlor should get in the cage with f2hodge and have a bit of it, what do you say Dave??



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F2Hodge.

Nice of you to let us know what happend.The newspapers here reported that the goverment did not want it to be to violent,anyway,i stand by my thoughts,that after the police and goverment came into it,that then the fights did look staged,even the ambulance turning up 10 or 15 mins before the guy supposedly broke his ankle.



I watched mike tyson Ref a match in manchester England in march 2006,a terry etim and a diego gonzales, it lasted just over a 1 min,Etim won the fight,mike tyson got 60 grand for reffing that fight,not bad for 1 mins work.

I know Michael Bisping,who i think is quite a good fighter,and was born in cyprus,thats a shock to you!! he is a middleweight and fights in the UFC,he lives not far from where i lived in manchester.

i cant remember if you was a middleweight or heaveyweight?

The UFC named him the great british hope.

Your right my friend,fighting is not my thing as you say!!

Im a lover not a fighter

look at the videos ive added to youtube 4u



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message 74.



neil



Give me 6 months notice,not a problem,also would be nice to see how he fights!



He would have a advantage,with being MMA.



Wonder if they would allow me not to wear the hand mits



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zero, thanks for considering what I've said. I appreciate you putting up the matches because it'll be months before the official vids are edited by the crew for us. I'll link the other fighters to this thread so they can see themselves. Did I meet you that night after or before the matches? I was the one with the mohawk.



PS

I'd really love to fight Bisping whenever I get my shot in UFC.



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Hello Ryan.



You may of seen me at the bar,i was wearing a randy couture affliction T shirt,your referee on the night passed comment on it,i realised you was the guy with the mohawk after you said about the broken ankle,we may of nodded in passing.

And how do see the fight if you and Bisping get it on if you get a shot in UFC?



heres a couple of videos of you.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6xlOpUjnTw



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvf8Ls7pJqc



Lets hope if you ever return to TRNC that you will be allowed to fight the way your used too.



Good Luck in your future fights.



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Thanks man! We may come back but the next venue may be China in Feb.



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F2Hodge, i saw your fight and i saw your concern. He was carried off in front of our table in the italian restaurant. I saw his pain , ambulances would be on standby in a event like this. I met you after at the top of the stairs and congratulated you. I only wish I got your autograph as my oldest grandson is now the current holder of welsh junior boxing champion. He will be so jealous as he loves extreme and to think his gma as he calls me saw it. He will be mortified. Good luck in all you do. Nobody could stage what happened to your opponent and friend. I saw your pain xxxxx



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He will be alright, Lilli. I pushed him in the wheelchair to his flight back home. It will take some rest and physical therapy for his ankle, but he should make a full recovery. Apparently he had hurt his ankle a few years back and had an inherent weakness in the ligaments there. You are right about the ambulance as well: they almost always have them on-hand at any contact sporting event(fights, football, rugby) for anyone who may need medical attention.



I wish your grandson luck in his boxing career. What is his name so I can look for him? Joe Calzaghe is one of my favorites and he represents the Welsh very well internationally.



Oh, and I forgot to mention the Hexagon thing. UFC and Zuffa have trademarked the Octagon shape cages. If your competition uses them, they have to pay royalties. For this reason, most other organizations use a six-sided cage. Hope that helps.



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