How to obtain the permission to buy a house ?

Frenchman


Joined: 12/10/2010
Posts: 28

Message Posted:
12/10/2010 17:34

Hello !



I am french , I bought a house in Kyrenia six years ago . The title deed is ready but I must wait for the permission to buy , as far as I am a foreigner... My sollicitor says that we are thousands in the same situation in North Cyprus . Is it true ? He says that it is the turkish army which delivers only five or six permissions a year and according to that speed , we could wait for long !!

Do you have any comment ?

kavenkoy


Joined: 10/04/2008
Posts: 1787

Message Posted:
12/10/2010 17:59

thats nonsense .



i waited 2years 3 months for permission to come through .



a delay maybe because he hasnt applied for it .

or that it is next to military land ,then i would think you would have had permission denied .

At least you would have heard .



have you asked for the number when you apply ,may be you could try and ring the department yourself?



kav

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
12/10/2010 18:03

Frenchman is your house on Exchange "Esedeger" land or Turkish title land?

thegtg


Joined: 23/07/2009
Posts: 34

Message Posted:
12/10/2010 18:05

Ask your lawyer for your permission to purchase reference number, the reference also includes the year, so you can see when they applied for it. Go to the interior ministry in Nicosia and they will be able to tell you what the status is of your permission to purchase application, they are very helpful.

Frenchman


Joined: 12/10/2010
Posts: 28

Message Posted:
12/10/2010 19:57

It is turkish title land . I already went to the ministry of interior with my lawyer and over there they told me that there is no problem but I have to be patient . Number of file : 193 / 05 .

Smity



Joined: 14/09/2009
Posts: 826

Message Posted:
12/10/2010 19:59

Like wise Msg 2

got our permisson to purchase 16 months after applying

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
12/10/2010 20:05

Frenchman.



Comment vous êtes. Pensez-vous que vous vivez ici? Quel est le rôle de la France êtes-vous?



Pourquoi avez-vous choisi la TRNC comme un endroit pour vivre?

Deniz1


Joined: 28/07/2009
Posts: 3829

Message Posted:
12/10/2010 22:25

Msg 7 we dont all speak french.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
12/10/2010 22:39

Surely the 'Frenchman' does.

TheSaints



Joined: 28/01/2009
Posts: 1369

Message Posted:
12/10/2010 22:43

Took us 1 year and 8 months from date of application to get permission...........6 years my arris

Frenchman


Joined: 12/10/2010
Posts: 28

Message Posted:
12/10/2010 22:53

I am not living here all lhe year long ... Only in spring and autumn ... I used to work in the french embassy in Nicosia twenty years ago , that's why I knew cyprus and I wanted to come back for long holidays , when I retire ...

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
13/10/2010 09:12

Pardonnez-moi, 'Frenchman', mais je pense que vous avez choisi le tort cote. Si le maison est situee pres d'une campe militaire, maintenant la gouvernement ici ne permis pas les etrangers a prendre et tenir le 'Kochan' sur les noms - c'est par ce qu'il ne donne pas le permit d'acheter. Alors, c'est la situation avec tout la terre qui les Turques de Chypre ont achete au devant 1974.



J'ai exactement le meme chose avec le maison.



Quand vous avez habite ici de plusiers d'ans, vous trouver beaucoup les gens de Chypre [ Nord et Sud] sont menteurs - sans la verite!



J'espere que tout sera different pour toi - bon chance!

Frenchman


Joined: 12/10/2010
Posts: 28

Message Posted:
13/10/2010 10:12

Non , je ne suis pas du tout près d'un camp militaire ... Non , I am absolutely not close to a militatry base ...

MrsSnakes



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 1100

Message Posted:
13/10/2010 10:48

At least Frenchman has replied in both French and English!

sloan



Joined: 24/02/2009
Posts: 808

Message Posted:
13/10/2010 10:56

When you say it is Turkish title land, do you mean pre-74 Turkish title? When the kocans are issued, the government now makes no difference between titles and they are all classified as Turkish title on the kocans. Many believe that PTP are not being issued on pre-74 title, so it will be interesting to see if you receive it. We got our PTP after 2 years 10 months and we believe we have got our kocan on pre-74 title, although this is not obvious on the document.

Frenchman


Joined: 12/10/2010
Posts: 28

Message Posted:
13/10/2010 12:33

I am not a specialist of all these subtleties... I just know that the land was the property of an old turkish cypriot from a long time , a turkish cypriot whose the son got as well a house on a parcel of that land . A turkish cypriot constructor had bought that land and built nine villas in 2004 . Most of the buyers are turkish cypriot but they got there title deeds only last spring 2010 , because the constructor had all his bank accounts blocked after a difficult divorce . Now everything is clear from that side and maybe I will get my permission to purchase one day ...! Maybe they start examining the file only when the title deed is ready ?

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
13/10/2010 12:44

'Frenchman'/msg 13:



Merci beaucoup pour le reponse.



Qui a faıt l'application - l'avocat?



Sans on a vu le 'Kochan' originale, c'est impossible savoir quel sorte de titre est applicable en ce cas.

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
13/10/2010 14:29

You do not have to be close to a military base this is only part of the story, it can be close to a villa where a Turkish or TC officer lives or any area that can be considered to be of military value.

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
13/10/2010 15:09

Sloan, if you want to check/confirm your title go to the land office in Nicosia. The plot numbers are the same as are the village maps. You can get a copy from them at just over a euro i think. It is all checkable because they have the village books from pre 1974. Then keep it safe with your kochan as proof of what you have!

sloan



Joined: 24/02/2009
Posts: 808

Message Posted:
13/10/2010 15:35

Thanks, Blade. I have been told that before. I need to find out where the Land Office is in Nicosia and take a trip over when we get back in November.

Frenchman


Joined: 12/10/2010
Posts: 28

Message Posted:
13/10/2010 19:18

Excuse-me , what do you call "kochan" ??

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
13/10/2010 19:53

Title deed

TheSaints



Joined: 28/01/2009
Posts: 1369

Message Posted:
13/10/2010 19:56

What a load of tosh,



bought a house 6 years ago, does not know what a Kochan is, does know anything about PTP, does not know what kind of deeds........my arris

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
13/10/2010 21:41

hello yannick -



je suis aussi francaise et j'ai une maison a girne également si je peux vous aider dans la mesure de mes compétences je me tiens à votre disposition - j'avoue etre un peu surprise de savoir que vous etes depuis 6 ans a kyrénia !

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
13/10/2010 21:44

frenckman, bon courage pour comprendre les traductions via l'outil internet !!!!

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
13/10/2010 21:47

le koçan " veut dire en turc " titre de propriété -



en france lorsque nous sommes propriétaire du terrain nous sommes d'office propriétaire de la maison que ns construisons dessus - a chypre nord il faut aussi en demander le titre de propriété et ce n'est pas toujours une mince affaire -

Frenchman


Joined: 12/10/2010
Posts: 28

Message Posted:
13/10/2010 21:50

Bonjour Sylvie !



Comme je l'ai écrit plus haut , je ne suis pas à Girne à temps plein depuis six ans . Je n'y viens qu'environ quatre mois par an . C'est très gentil de me proposer votre aide . Où êtes-vous à Girne ? Moi je suis derrière le Pia Bella Hôtel .

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
13/10/2010 21:57

bonsoir yannick,



ns ne vivons pas non plus à girne en permanence mais mon mari ( chypriote turc) vient très souvent dans notre maison située à zeytinlik - moi je suis toujours en activité et essaie de venir le plus souvent possible - je pense venir début novembre -

Frenchman


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Posts: 28

Message Posted:
13/10/2010 22:12

Re-Bonsoir Sylvie ,



Nous repartons le 6/11 . Peut-être réussirons-nous à nous rencontrer ...? Je ne voudaris pas laisser mes coordonnées sur ce forum . Avez-vous une idée comment faire ?

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
13/10/2010 22:21

vs avez raison ,ne laissez pas vos coordonnées -éventuellement envoyez moi votre e-mail par sms au 0679096845 lorsque je serai arrivée je ne manquerai pas de vous contacter-bonne soirée