Search engine optimization for website

lifeisgood


Joined: 03/10/2010
Posts: 11

Message Posted:
17/10/2010 16:20

Looking for someone to do off page optimization of my website. Looking for someone who is experienced and knowledgeable with proof of previous work carried here or in the UK

ataturk


Joined: 09/09/2008
Posts: 712

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 20:11

There is someone who just put a post on regarding web design he may be able to help you

bigOz


Joined: 29/09/2010
Posts: 1244

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 21:09

That was me atatürk

There is little use in TRNC with regards to my skills & expertise in SEO, because businessmen here are not aware of the benefits (albeit very much sought after in UK and Europe)



lifeisgood, below are all UK qualifications & experience;

I have a Uni diploma in Computing & Mathematics (can use "Cert.CompMath" as title after my name)

Higher National Diploma in Business Studies

12 City&Guilds Certs/Diplomas in various IT and prgrmng subjects

7 Prof. Media certificates in Website construction & online marketing; including SEO, Afiliate Marketing and EPR

2 years work experience with Summit Media, as the EPR Manager, managing online marketing activities of high profile companies such as Panasonic, EuroStar, and Powergen; first class reference available!

I also hold a CPL/IR + flight instructor's rating

email me details of what you exactly want done to: turkishlessons1to1@yahoo.com and perhaps we can arrange a meeting. I can produce documented evidence for the

bigOz


Joined: 29/09/2010
Posts: 1244

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 21:17

Sorry the above ran out of characters! It should finish off as:

"I can produce documented evidence for the above - ozer"

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 21:23

lifeisgood - optimizing a website is not difficult, but it is 'very' time consuming. What do you want to achieve? What is your domain name? What search phrases do you want to optimize for? Have you any knowledge of HTML/domain management?

bigOz


Joined: 29/09/2010
Posts: 1244

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 22:24

Optimizing a website is not difficult - of course! But with search engines moving the goal posts every month or two, unless you are current in and aware of tricks of the trade, you might not be very visible to customers looking for your trade, when using the right keywords or phrases!

Your domain name is important, but with popular business areas good names are hard to come by. In any case if you have an old established domain name, it may come in as more useful.

The competition for the trade you are in is also important. The most time consuming part is link building and directory registrations. It can take from three to nine months depending on how much time one can spend just on those. That is where EPR and PPC can come in to speed things up, until the site is well established and deserved credit is given by the spiders.

Oh well! That is enough for basic SEO for one post - I have a meeting with Bill Gates tomorrow so excuse me while I prepare my speech!

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 22:29

I think the best SEO system for NC is the search engines them selves, they are basic but it can work to a point and its free however as I have found in the past the best system always revolves around links from other sites and that means Cyprus 44 when it comes to North Cyprus.

I am no expert like BigOz obviously is, I am only going by my past experiences at trying to get my web sites out there.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 22:30

Nice one Oz.Give Mr Gates my love tell him im still waiting for the new pc i won via the email. x It was lovely meeting you both and hope to see you again soon x

bigOz


Joined: 29/09/2010
Posts: 1244

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 00:25

Proger1; You are absolutely right! The major factor (paired with a very good domain name) is the number of quality inbound links! This gives any forum, with the right name, a great advantage on search results. Because with discussion forums, inbound links can be from anywhere. With most members bookmarking the site URL added to other associated links present on the site, there is an abundant source of inbound links! Just as important is the traffic (the number of visitors, i.e. the site popularity). Discussion forums naturally attract many visitors at all times of the day! And popular ones such as Cyprus44 do well in listings (as long as peole keep visiting)

However! Popular as it is, the forum structure of Cyprus44 is very primitive indeed. There is always the danger that a better looking forum will come aboard with a proper forum outlay, gain popularity and take over.

I am willing to discuss, with whoever runs this forum, what improvements and changes can be done to current structu

bigOz


Joined: 29/09/2010
Posts: 1244

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 00:28

But Lilli! Bill Gates says you refused him a date because he did not know how to cook!

As soon as I have more time on my hands for social activity we shall definitely visit you again x

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 00:31

Thanks Oz, I had so much trouble trying to get that across elsewhere I was starting to think I was going insane.

I completely agree that a better forum layout could theoretically take over the top spot from C44 but I doubt that the members would change, the great thing about 44 is its simplicity as far as many of the members are concerned, I disagree with this and think that if Izzet wants to stay on top he should adapt but that is only my opinion, from what I see of your quals I think he should at the very least give you a quick mail about what you can improve upon. If the situatio in NC was to change and the younger generations who want all the gimmicks come along he'll have to.

I know if I decide to try to create another forum type site I will certailnly contact you.



Paul

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 00:35

bigOz - "However! Popular as it is, the forum structure of Cyprus44 is very primitive indeed." - Cy44 is a very succesful forum (the most succesfull NC forum), it is easy to read and the format is brilliant - my opinion of course, but much better than the off-the-shelf offerings from some.

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 00:42

Oh god, here we go again, I think therefore I am, try answering my question on the other post, what is your point on google search as obviously I am not getting the same result

bigOz


Joined: 29/09/2010
Posts: 1244

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 01:10

Washerman! I was not refuting the fact that Cyprus44 is currently the most popular forum in North Cyprus. BTW - out of how many TRNC forums are we talking about here? However as someone who actively spent time on hundreds of forums, I have to disagree with your other comments. There is nothing brilliant about the format and it is not what I would call "easy to read".

Please allow me to express what is missing here (as a constructive criticism);

To start with there are no smilies! When I send a message - if I am joking about something I want the other party to know! The same goes for feeling happy or annoyed about reading another post.

The character limitation for posts does not allow a sensible conversation to take place with some subjects, when one has to send two consecutive posts to complete their story.

If I want to reply to a specific post in a thread, there is no "quote" icon to allow me to quote that post when replying.

The posts are crowded on main page (CONTINUES BELOW!)

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 01:13

continued where..?

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 01:15

bigOZ there are smilies ))



There has to be a limit to the amount of characters, otherwise what's to stop someone posting a massive amount of text to cause a problem.



Copy and paste comments that you are referring to and quote the message number.



Simples.

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 01:18

BigOz, no point, the man is like a brick wall, I swear he sits at his computer giggling to himself knowing that he is irritating people. He probably thinks it is all tongue in cheek and just fun, lots of people have thought that until one day someone comes along who doesn't understand the humour and uses a more direct action to make them realise they are annoying.

bigOz


Joined: 29/09/2010
Posts: 1244

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 01:29

The posts are crowded on main page, so much so, during peak visits posts move down faster that you can read them. Even with other pages for specific subjects present, the general discussion threads get overcrowded at times for anyone to follow sensibly. It means many visitors who do noty necessariy like to scroll down a mile and on to next page at times, can miss a lot of the subjects

I feel if one can increase the visitor numbers (albeit it is already popular) by creating an even more accessible and attractive site - then why not? Such improvements would in fact increase member loyalty and be a barrier to entry to any other better designed forum

The forums as such are easier to browse through than here, because navigation to thread subjects are more accessible and presentable! One should not scroll all the way to the bottom of the forum to access another subject.

Members cannot send Prvt Msgs. Sometimes, people may not wish to send messages revealing their email or mobile numbers!.

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 01:30

"uses a more direct action to make them realise they are annoying." Your right Paul, it's a curse!

Washerman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 2301

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 01:32

bigOz - I suppose it's what you are used to, but if it ain't broken, it doesn't need fixing!

bigOz


Joined: 29/09/2010
Posts: 1244

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 01:37

Washerman

Copy and paste another message and you will have no characters left to post your own!

And who says posting massive amount of characters ever caused anyone any problems?

Washerman my friend,have you really visited any other forum other than this one? Because your claims are wrong. But hey! What we discussing here? Who ever owns the forum will do as they please anyway. Using a "discussion forum" I am simply stating facts and trying to improve a forum that is popular with people. What is wrong with that?

Anyway I am off to bed - good night to all!

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 01:49

I hadn't considered that, maybe this is the only forum he has used in which case it probably does seem very good.

lifeisgood


Joined: 03/10/2010
Posts: 11

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 09:05

Hi Big Oz,



Thanks for your reply I am already doing the linkbuilding for certain keywords and submission to directories on an ongoing basis. I quite high on the search engines but the 1st page on google still remains elusive. I have got PPC going as well and Social Bookmarkings with around twenty sites. I have done approximately 5 articles but will be slowly increasing them as time goes on. I have now started to use long tail keywords with specific landing pages. Apart from this not sure what you can do

bigOz


Joined: 29/09/2010
Posts: 1244

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 09:36

If you have an ongoing PPC campaign with Google then you should be seen as a sponsored link on the first page.

As to what can be done to improve things - I actually wrote a book on the subject 3 years ago! But decided to keep it for my own reference. High quality Link exchange with relevant sites (and I am talking about 100-200 links at least) is one area! "high quality links" mean other websites in the same or related trade to your own one. Are you using any software to check whether current links are not broken or not? Also remember other sites doing exactly what you are, but probably a little more - that would give them an advantage in listings.

Imagine you are producing a formula-3 car & have created an engine that can produce more power than the others. Done enough to win a race? NO! You must design the whole package! That would include the type of tyres, shock absorbers, aeronautical design, good driver, good support team, good communications centre etc. (continues below)

bigOz


Joined: 29/09/2010
Posts: 1244

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 09:55

I would ask few related questions;

Is the website "key worded" properly and what is the amount of flash imagery, Java Script, and/or html text used. Is it a flash site or an HTML site? Do you use CSS code? Are all your pages linked using a good navigational system? Do your outbound links have inbound ones returning to your site? Are the images tagged/titled correctly using HTML. Is your domain name related to your trade (i.e. has one of the main key words in its structure)? Do you constantly monitor PPC bids responding quickly to changes? Are your trade highly competitive or is it a "niche" market? Have you any EPR activity?

As you can see - as someone else pointed out earlier - it is a time consuming process to carry out SEO. Large corporate organisations reqire full time attention of a professional - hence the need for an SEO specialist. To be able to help, I need to know what your trade is, how much budget you are prepared to spare for this activity and the URL of course.