Two young men have just appeared and started asking questions

Panchocat


Joined: 29/11/2009
Posts: 1333

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 17:25

Two well spoken English guys have just appeared at the bottom of the drive, they were in a Greek hire car.

Began by telling us they owned the field next door to us and were surveying it for when they build.

Chatty; asked a lot of questions one of which was " Do you have a house in the UK?".

Should we be worried?!!!!!!

Glorybee


Joined: 30/04/2010
Posts: 132

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 17:26

I think I would be, Panchocat. Take care,

EsentepeGal


Joined: 12/09/2010
Posts: 144

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 17:41

My standard answer is "Not in My name".

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 17:46

RE msg 1, Panchocat: (...) Should we be worried?!!!!!! (...)

=> No, of course not. Talk freely to strangers in a Greek hire car and tell 'em all that's none of their business. Sometimes it's hard to believe the naivety of questions re: houses, land and what have you.

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 18:11

I am renting is good.

YFred


Joined: 06/05/2009
Posts: 1471

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 18:24

I am house sitting is even better. Call the Police, they will be done for what they are doing.

geronimo


Joined: 30/08/2009
Posts: 296

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 18:41

I thought that we were supposed to ring the police when we were approached by "foreign" registered cars.

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 18:48

Good advice both above.

yenibob


Joined: 13/10/2010
Posts: 1203

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 18:52

not helped by the number of expats driving GC cars to cheat the TRNC....Shame....but their you go!!



Bet bnone of them complain about thenorth

vonny


Joined: 25/06/2009
Posts: 476

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 18:52

My guess is they were just a couple of greek cypriots from london who have come over for a holiday in the south and maybe the land once belonged to someone in their family and just wanted to have a look at the place as its strange they had a hired car. If they were greeks living in the south wouldnt they have just come in their own car?i think they were just trying to put the wind up you. i wouldnt worry,you'll probably never hear from them again.

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 19:13

"i wouldnt worry,you'll probably never hear from them again. "

Yep, I bet thats what the Orams would say.

racoonchic



Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3223

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 19:18

take the car reg call the police and they will be stopped on their way back across the border ... there turn for questions

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 19:27

My dog likes GC's and also my CT neighbours and their dogs like GC's (NOT).

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 19:36

tell them to pass all queries onto the Immovable Property Commission as they are the ones that handle that now , and should they not be happy with that then go back to ECHR.

By that time we will have all passed on ,so dont worry.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 19:39

Firstly, I'd suggest that the car is Rep of Cyprus registered - NOT GREEK ;)



Secondly, much as I have sympathy for any disenfranchised Cypriot , remain polite - don't give 'em your name, refrain from any comment other than - suggesting that instead of visiting you they use the ECHR prescribed method - namely Turkey's local remedy - the IPC - to remedy any property claims and wish them 'good day '

vonny


Joined: 25/06/2009
Posts: 476

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 19:44

Yes Hector, ,i think panchocat should try and put it out her mind. she didnt take the car reg or report it now understandably shes worried and some of you just want to fuel that. Nobody can just come over now and take your house they have to go through the courts in northern cyprus to do that.Its not the same as the Orams case.If they DO come back im sure panchocat will take their car reg and report it.

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 21:28

tell them to f..k off back to where they came from and then call the police and give them their car reg no.









musin





long live the kktc

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 21:33

Its obvious Panchochat should be un settled, how would any of us react. Would we think on our feet to call the police or tell them to go to the IPC. I hope it turns out to be a one off and their minds can be in peace x

onestop


Joined: 31/10/2009
Posts: 214

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 21:34

Many of our customers choose to stay in the south, hire a car and come over to conduct their business. You say they were well spoken English guys -perhaps they were just that.

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 21:41

take musins advise , LONG LIVE KKTC .

vonny


Joined: 25/06/2009
Posts: 476

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 21:54

lol, but what if message 19 is correct.suppose these people were not greek but infact British who are interested in the land next to panchocat. when you do meet new people you make conversation do you not? and one of the questions usually is,do you still have a house in the uk? all above board. Now everyone is saying, you should of called the police,take the car reg,tell him to f.off. now that could be her future neighbour we're talking about.great way to start isnt it... Im sure the Greeks know the laws in the TRNC i dont think anyone would want to take the risk of being arrested.

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 22:05

msg 13, nice quote from a forum admin, would you encourage race hatred in the uk ???

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 22:09

I would have asked for their address in the south, then asked them if they know if it belonged to a TC before the problems began and if they are trying to find those people to see if they would like to go see it again..The police may also be able to help find these people for them..maybe they just needed some held in this direction...you never know.. )





Spider,X

Panchocat


Joined: 29/11/2009
Posts: 1333

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 23:04

Thanks Vonny and Lilli.

Let's hope it was as they say; they own the land and were looking to their future investments.

Not normally suspicious by nature but............

I will take a car number if it ever happens again.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 23:06

Just take care love, I would have hated to be in your position x

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 23:09

panochat, is it t/c land or exchange???

mahdel


Joined: 28/05/2009
Posts: 255

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 23:14

I once had a GC threaten me with a lawsuit over my property. I let him rant at me for about 10 minutes before I let him know that a)we knew who owned the property pre-1974 and it wasn't him and b) I'm American and the ECHR has no jurisdiction over the $500 or so assets I keep in the US. He sputtered for a while, called me a malaka and left.

Panchocat


Joined: 29/11/2009
Posts: 1333

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 23:15

Exchange I believe.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 23:18

.......neverthe less,it is a TRNC land,so next time any of our neighbours call round just tell them that there is nothing for sale to them nor they are allowed to buy in TRNC.

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
18/10/2010 23:57

panochat , direct them to the ipc, and only if they reject their findings could it be a problem...

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 00:01

good one musin, like it

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 00:13

Pug not pig so sorry about that, i guess they would like to move on from it and we cant blame them. We all have become cynicial sadly. Rolls so happy to see you back . we must now take apcs advise tell them to go to the IPC. I only hope they can but it down to experience and we may have many more well spoken young people come to look. I did in Ireland and stood out like a sore thumb but the irish lafies in the church where i was baptaised asked the questions and before i knew it i found long lost aunties and cousins. My sister from rockingham Austrilia decided to do a Anglas Ashes trip our selves, whilst we remembered a lot we got the streets wrong , for me Clare Rd , for her Clare St, we drew blanks until i said we go to the church, then i even found a relative who lived 10 miles from me and played rugby for bloody wales not ireland, (joking) ran a pub up the rd from me in Cardiff. whats the chances of that x

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 02:06

April 1st Maybe??

snd1966


Joined: 10/06/2009
Posts: 353

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 06:54

And how many people when here on holiday use Greek cypriot registered hire cars - You say ' Two well spoken English guys ' , did they look Cypriot? admittedly the question was weird but how many times has one been asked do you still have a home in the uk when personally chatting with a so called holiday maker. In my case quite a few people have been interested whether I have moved lock, stock and barrel over here and cut off all ties. Now I realise I should be thinking they are getting ready to take my few assets. I can't believe how many have leapt to the conclusion they were Greek Cypriot from such little information..

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 07:46

Mark

" refrain from any comment other than - suggesting that instead of visiting you they use the ECHR prescribed method - namely Turkey's local remedy - the IPC - to remedy any property claims and wish them 'good day' "



This is exactly why I thought the BRS could draft a letter in all three languages of Cyprus setting out the requirement to make enquiries via the IPC that ex-pats like Pachocat could hand out to those out on 'fishing' expeditions.... if this is what it was.

girne


Joined: 14/01/2009
Posts: 438

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 08:43

even better tell then to mind their own business as they have no proof they own that land and any more questioning then call the police.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 09:09

apc2010

Re message 22:

'msg 13, nice quote from a forum admin, would you encourage race hatred in the uk ???'



First of all where is the UK? I have not lived there for nearly 30 years. Secondly I would suggest you ask my Cypriot Turkish neighbours what they think about GCs and try telling them that they are encouraging race hatred. I guarantee you will not hang around for too long.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 10:24

Musin msg 17 was exactly what I would have told them.



I also think people should not be asking questions of what is the land status of forum users. The anti carpet bagger's society will no doubt be looking in......BOOOOO.

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 10:44

Put yourselves in their shoes for one minute.

What would you be doing in their situation, if it were your land?

It wasn't them who sold you the land, so what have they actually done wrong?

I am sure many Turkish Cypriots have gone south to look at the land their family occupied and which they still own.

I wouldn't worry until they send you the summons.

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 10:51

From what I understand, there is an increase in British based GC's sizing up their land in order to make claims through the IPC.



On the same note, did I read correctly in the Cyprus today, that one of the biggest GC land owners in the north prior to 74 is about to make a substantial claim through the IPC?

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 11:03

blade

I am sure you do not know what the true situation is.

First of all a lot of CT title deeds have been falsified to show GC ownership and that is a fact. I have seen the evidence with my own eyes. I know of 27 families that had proven title deeds to property in the South and the North but now they find that their land is 'legally' owned by GCs.

There have been 2 incidences of separate GCs turning up in our area claiming to own the same bit of land and before you ask no they were not related.

The whole situation is complicated and not as simple as your post indicates.

AJ

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 11:34

I feel the best course of action is :



1.put both arms outstreched and shrugg your shoulders and say,solly no understand!



2. Turn around and break wind as walking back to your home.



3.Never take a envelope or letter of any of these guys.

onestop


Joined: 31/10/2009
Posts: 214

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 11:45

" Well spoken English guys"?..........................



Did they look English? did they have any features one would possibly associate with being of Greek Cypriot origin?

basheer



Joined: 22/12/2008
Posts: 949

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 11:52

it least most of us are now prepared when and if this happens to us

i intend to to snap shots of their car and them

note my police station number and call them if required what is it by the way lapta or girne?

be polite and provide a false name

that I rent from turkish cypriots

the ipc would help them in their inquires

and carry on my business

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 11:58

message 43



what does a englishman look like?



does he wear a white vest and a handkerchief knotted on 4 corners and union jack streched worn out boxers?

breezyboy


Joined: 14/05/2007
Posts: 1179

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 12:01

Take photos of them and of their car. There would then be no need to say anything as they drive away!

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 12:06

giving a false name.



could that be deemed as perverting the course of justice ,if there was ever a court case?



better to shrug your shoulders and say,no understand ,SOLLY!

Barno


Joined: 20/08/2010
Posts: 125

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 13:14

On Saturday I rang the lapta police because 2 men and a women were filming at the end of my street for what seemed like 10 minutes or so, I thought at first they were estate agents but when i looked again they were still filming so I walked down the road to look at their car registration and it was Greek, I went home for my phone and called police, I deliberately went back to read the reg out to the police and the two men jumped in the car drove off quickly! I told police they were not causing any problems I was just reporting what I had seen as that is what had been asked of us.

nostradamus


Joined: 15/04/2008
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 13:26

message 9: Why the sniping about people running GC registered cars? I am aware that there are GC plated cars being used here but have no idea whether these are officially sanctioned or not and neither, do I imagine, do you. Unless you are in possession of the full facts of all these cases why comment? Jealousy? Boredom? Try getting out more!

yrret


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 761

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 13:33

A number of unfortunates stated on an ROC forum that they 'were coming in their thousands'

Sounds like both have tuned up.

Msg 47, perverting the course is a criminal offence, any attempted claim would be civil, they are unlikely to report the matter, and it must be done knowingly, so if you are a little hard of hearing, or you thought they meant the neighbours name, you have not perverted. Anyway, intimidating a witness (say a couple turning up to a line individual) is also perversion.



You all have the right to remain silent don't forget.

A for 'do you have a house in the UK'?, just reply that they can spend as much as they want trying to find out.

Under common law you don't have to give name etc even if cautioned.



Maybe all should have printed off directions to the now precedented IPC to hand over to anyone looking to claim (or pretending to claim) anything, and show a little assistance in the matter.

onestop


Joined: 31/10/2009
Posts: 214

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 15:10

msg 45

Prince Charles



and only if he is from Salford....

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 15:20

Best bet, start trying to convert them, tell them you are a Jehovah's witness and you are so happy to see them.

in short, bore them to death.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
19/10/2010 15:21

http://famagusta-gazette.com/reports-lordos-visits-north-cyprus-before-making-property-claim-p10889-69.htm



Looks like he has been sizing his up as well,

Paul.

hunkydory


Joined: 19/10/2010
Posts: 9

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 06:12

Talking of land issues, does anyone know what the land status is of the Hilltop development at Bogaz, is it exchanged land or ex Greek land ?

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 06:35

" is it exchanged land or ex Greek land ?"



They are one and the same... land earmarked for exchange is all Greek Cypriot land (NB. not Greek).

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 06:45

I thought it was called Esdeger land because it was never really an exchange,

sorry but I couldn't help throwing that in the mix before I close up for the night.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 07:14

Esdeğer does mean exchange.. but as Paul points out the exchange never took place even though such a mechanism was agreed between the leaders of the two communities..



The south went back on their word and tried to deny that the agreement ever took place. The then leader of the GC's has since confirmed that the gentleman's agreement did take place but his own side would not let him keep his promise.

rdsteve


Joined: 01/03/2009
Posts: 187

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 08:11

Take it these Greek cars are lefthand drive with white plates with red letters. I expect they are Republic of Cyprus registered cars which there is a difference so when you tell the police that you have seen a Greek car you are giving them false information hence you are wasting police time therefore leaving yourself open for prosecution.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 08:20

Bit of a red-herring rdsteve...



It's only punishable if it is determined the intention was to waste police time.. being unintentionally wrong is not an offence - yet...



Anyway I'm sure the poster meant G/C when referring to a Greek car...

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 08:46

Re post 41.

AJ, i fully understand the situation here, basically if you purchased the so called exchange land you will always be at risk of some GC turning up to look at their land. You paid your money and took your chances.

Why moan when it happens.? It not the GC's at fault is it? Did they sell you that land?

As i asked before what would you be doing if the boot were on the other foot?

Troodo


Joined: 12/06/2008
Posts: 1002

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 10:25

As i asked before what would you be doing if the boot were on the other foot?



Blade. After 36 years I would have moved on and created a new life.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 11:02

The ECHR has told them what to do... apply to the IPC for compensation. But the original poster says they were English... so it's not even sure what they were up to.

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 14:12

blade if the boot were on the other foot, I would realise it was time for me to put L and R on my boots.

Mind you with Pauline's slippers which are way too big for me, I often walk around that way.



IPC IPC SO GOOD (advice) I named it twice.

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 14:16

troodo , absolute crap, if (heaven forbid) some government/people turfed you out of your birth home , do not tell me you would have "moved on" , this applies to t/cs and g/cs..... it was not their choice to move/leave ...

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 15:11

apc2010 If the properties had been left, totally uninterferred with, most would be shells now. If the

TC properties in the south had been left in just the same way, so would they. In truth most of the original

refugees are either dead or have made new lives. The IPC offer compensation. so why not move on and make new lives. I sort of think they have and only people like you are still living in the past. It was bleak

for both sides, but until attitudes change, there will be no end to it. The number of people who's birth homes they really were, most be so few. Very emotive words, but not realistic and not convincing.

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 15:19

polly , i also think most people have moved on , but untill you are in their "shoes" (i am not) , i feel it is ill advised to comment , you are having enough trouble with your own property issues , you for one should be more sensitive , you at present are "shouting from the rooftops" arrranging protests etc ,.....

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 15:35

how the f**k are most refugees dead , on both sides most people are capable of being alive 36 years ago , i imagine if you were a child at that time it would have been more traumatic than an adult .....it is feasible that a 45 year old has lost his/her family home ...........you bought knowing the problem ........they got f***ed by their respective power mad "leaders" ..........

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 16:27

No apc2010, Pauline for one is facing a maxmum jail sentence of 3 years or a fine or both and for your

information she does undertstand anger, believe me but hers is recent, not 36 years old and when some

time has elapsed so will some of her anger, she does not mean to be insensitive but if you dont let go of

some of your anger, it will harm you and they win again. Whilst there are bad people going unchecked

bad things will happen. As for arranging protests, read the news, not only are they not letting her do that,

steps are being taken to silence her. If they think seeing an old people standing silently holding a candle

is bad PR, try the picture of a 65 year old lady being jailed for writing something they don't like.

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 16:41

i hope you live for other 36 years , but your problems now will still be on your mind , you problems are mostly of you own actions , the people, t/cs and g/cs, their problem was forced upon them by a minority of fanactics ...



as for bad people going un checked how many sold property in n/cyprus ..???



mr robb springs to mind ......

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 17:01

apc2010. The estate agents, the rogue builders, the advocates and all their cronies are all innocent stooges and we wicked ex pats forced them all to behave like the low life they are. We are all to blame, heaven forbid

we try to blame anyone else. Attitudes like yours are the cause of nothing changing so forgive me if I do

not 'buy' your crocodile tears.



As for living another 36 years, don't be ridiculous and if I did I would probably be totally gaga with nothing

on my mind.



The problems of the ex pats are through lax control of the mortage and property market and old archaic laws.

We, the ex pats are not responsible for that. I agree, govt's are responsible for a lot of problems where

the GC/TC problems are concerned, but you can put a gun in someone's hands, you cannot make them

shoot. Judging from some of the venom I read, the hatred is still alive for many.

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 17:03

to quote paul weller..



You've made your bed, you better lie in it

You choose your leaders and place your trust

As their lies put you down and their promises rust

Scoty


Joined: 23/05/2010
Posts: 846

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 17:13

apc2010 - do you have something to get off your chest - shoulder then?

beds are made - we lie in them - until the covers get messed up.

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 17:16

I don't get to vote, so I did not choose any leader here, however I guess it's time to quote and old

saying, slightly adjusted, you'll only understand that which you choose to. Dont forget the GC'S and TC'S

CHOSE THEIR LEADERS too much good it did them then.



Where ignorance is bliss, takes polly to be wise and leave you in your blissful state. Sweet dreams.

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 17:29

i made the decision not to purchase on this sunny island , hence my" blissful state" , i listen to advice and reason ,,,



when cyprus became a haven for uk fugitives , i judged better.....





sleep well in my" rented" bed .....with a clear consciuos ....

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 17:45

Such venom, but still you stay and still you pay, even if it is only rent and you think that makes you better than

us - you support that which you despise - you really are blissful aren't you. I bet you aren't very tall either,

that usually goes with a chip.

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 17:48

where is the venom ???? i am very happy with "my lot" , i made a decision to live in cyprus , my choice , but came here with eyes wide open ....

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 18:18

Message 67 and if you are so happy - leave those who are not alone, we don't need you trying to salve your

conscience by pretending you give a toss about something that happened 36 years ago and not even to you.



Trodoo is absolutely right - get a life and stop trying to live everyone else's for them.



Be blissful quietly.

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 18:21

apc2010



I understand you are renting a property, in the Roc or TRNC?

If it's in the TRNC is it pre74 or Exchange?

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 18:23

on other thread i suggested a website for you , i tried to be helpfull, but when you dismiss peoples suffering of a conflict that most knew nothing of, my respect for your plight just diminished ,,

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 18:33

with friends like you apc2000 who needs enemies?

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 18:34

its apc 2010 , (hic)

Scoty


Joined: 23/05/2010
Posts: 846

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 18:37

getting out of hand again! Surprise

Topic answered.

Stop before it becomes the usual free for all?

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 18:43

My apologies apc2010 typo error and a little arthritis, definitely, not alcohol related. Need a clear head for

what lies ahead of me.



Scoty, it won't become a free for all, above all else, I am a lady.



Good evening apc2010

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 18:47

all the best for your troubles , i hope sense prevails ,,,, but try my sugestion go to uk2net and buy a website , not expensive , if all the members here made it their home page it would be in the search engines in no time.........

kaiserphil


Joined: 14/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 19:05

Polly, you must have been thinking of 'Space Odyssey'!

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 19:25

apc2010- you are confusing me with someone who knows what she is doing on computers, when I am a

ludite, I really am. I seem to have a mental block on all things technical. I made a conscious decision never

to have a lap top when I first came here 4 years ago, that was before my problems. I bought a laptop

in July last year, had someone set it up and then it has been trial and error, mostly error. Believe it or

not I had my own business and paid someone to do all that was necessary. I only kept the commission code,

because I didn't think it necessary for anyone to know that. I think when the police started looking at my

hard drive (whatever that is) they must have realised they were dealing with a rank amateur, be interesting

to see how I cope, if I ever get it back, especially if they have messed it up. Of course on the positive side, they might feel sorry for me and make it easier for me to use.

karakum5c



Joined: 18/03/2008
Posts: 1021

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 19:31

If anyone comes asking me questions, i will politely invite them into my home and offer them my good Scottish hospitality and plenty of it .

















When they leave i will see them to their car and check with them that they know the best road to take.



















I will then return to my home and phone the Polis telling them there are 2 drunken Greeks driving under the influence of alchol who have narrowly missed killing some local children remembering to give them the make, model, colour,registration number and road they are travelling on.

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 19:36

problem with that msg 87 , if you read the original message they were english...

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 19:40

And even if they weren't English, I'd bet my bottom dollar they weren't "Greek" either

karakum5c



Joined: 18/03/2008
Posts: 1021

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 19:43

My apologies !



I didnt know we had checked their passports !







If they wernt Greek Cypriots who the heck do we think they were !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 19:46

Msg 88

Are you on a mission to nowhere? Well spoken English does not mean they were English/British!



Richard

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 19:48

it was not my quote it was the original post



"Two well spoken English guys have just appeared at the bottom of the drive,"



don't shoot the messenger.....

mistress


Joined: 29/08/2009
Posts: 57

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 20:01

God you lot, can't believe you are still rattling on about this nearly a week later.



Will the well spoken English person surveying his estate in Catalkoy please step forward?



Panochat - was your land owned by the TC same landowner of the plot next door? if so find out from your developer who owns it, if he sold it to a well spoken English guy then you have your answer.

Alternatively ask one of your friendly TC neighbours who owns the land, if it is still a TC your fears may be founded,but there is nothing you can do. The government offer us no protection whatsoever, this is clear by the plight of Pauline and those in similar situations.

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 20:07

do not worry read this from the british government website......



"On 20 October 2006 a criminal code amendment relating to property came into effect. Under the amendment, buying, selling, renting, promoting or mortgaging a property without the permission of the owner (the person whose ownership is registered with the Republic of Cyprus Land Registry, including Greek Cypriots displaced from northern Cyprus in 1974), is a criminal offence. This also applies to agreeing to sell, buy or rent a property without the owner’s permission. The maximum prison sentence is seven years. "













http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living-abroad/travel-advice-by-country/europe/cyprus

clayton


Joined: 30/11/2008
Posts: 1143

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 20:34

did it mention the cypriot turkish people who have been displaced as well,british system only works for non brits,dont give a s,,,e about its own people

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 20:56

blade

'Re post 41.



AJ, i fully understand the situation here, basically if you purchased the so called exchange land you will always be at risk of some GC turning up to look at their land. You paid your money and took your chances.



Why moan when it happens.? It not the GC's at fault is it? Did they sell you that land?



As i asked before what would you be doing if the boot were on the other foot?'



I think you are missing the point here, everyone is in the same boat CTs/Brits/Russians/Syrians have no idea of who the legal owner of their land/property is because of the large scale of title deed falsification carried out by the ROC. You watch what happens when (if) there is a settlement because it is going to cause major embarrassment to the ROC.

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 21:16

AJ



I think if (when) there is any settlement both sides will be embarrassed and any land either side of the green line is questionable! if you think otherwise you are still living in Airy Fairy Land

DONTY


Joined: 07/06/2007
Posts: 534

Message Posted:
24/10/2010 03:33

Msg 94



Your post's lack of clarification could lead someone to believe that the British Government have a law against buying property in the TRNC.

Just to ensure others, this law is South Cyprus law NOT UK law.

In short, don't open an agency in South Cyprus selling North Cyprus property as it might cause you some bother... everybody else relax.

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
24/10/2010 03:36

how does it lack anything ..??? i posted the original site ,, if someone wants the full version it is there ....



not my words they are direct from the british f/o...........

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
24/10/2010 08:02

Yes but you know full well that they are pointing out the ROC law when the way you have presented your snippet deliberately makes it sound like UK law... :(

Troodo


Joined: 12/06/2008
Posts: 1002

Message Posted:
24/10/2010 10:09

I thought the argument from the EU legal eagles on embargos was that the north could trade with the south over the green line. I am sure I saw an advert in the online Cyprus Mail advertising property in the North.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
24/10/2010 10:12

TRNCvictim

Re message 97



'AJ

I think if (when) there is any settlement both sides will be embarrassed and any land either side of the green line is questionable! if you think otherwise you are still living in Airy Fairy Land'



I am more than aware of the situation regarding property ownership on the Island but my beef is with the ROC and their attitude towards compensation/restitution for CT's. I know of one Hotel owner in the TRNC that has lost twice as much property in the South than he has been given in the North. Now tell me whether that is decent exchange? I think it maybe you that may be living in 'Airy Fairy Land'

dalartokat


Joined: 14/04/2008
Posts: 734

Message Posted:
24/10/2010 10:42

Message 102 ......"I know of one Hotel owner in the TRNC that has lost twice as much property in the South than he has been given in the North. Now tell me whether that is decent exchange?"



Are you able to reveal the name of the Hotel and its owner whom you refer to?

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
24/10/2010 11:02

AJ, i am not missing the point.

I don't believe that everyone is in the same boat. You could have checked the deeds on both sides of the island before buying!

Troodo


Joined: 12/06/2008
Posts: 1002

Message Posted:
24/10/2010 11:19

Would it not be cheaper to pay ex-pats to vacate the land, than to pay GC's those ridicules amounts?

breezyboy


Joined: 14/05/2007
Posts: 1179

Message Posted:
24/10/2010 14:25

Usual sanctimonious bollocks APC2010.



Yes I do know what iot is like to be forced oiut of my home! As ity happens by the evil bitch I used to be married to and I moved on - I had to!



So after all this time the TCs appear to have moved on, why can't the GCs do the same?