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apc2010


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19/10/2010 01:47

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as the ever increasing laws creep in, ie smoking ban etc , should everyone obey these or can we ignore them ..???



is the world becoming too controlled ..??



proger1



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19/10/2010 01:51

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As I have recently stopped smoking, I think everyone in the world should stop



LaptaMike


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19/10/2010 01:57

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Laws that people perceive to be a bit silly are often overlooked. In the UK as well as here in NC, the smoking ban is often ignored. Licensing laws in the UK are ignored (after time for the locals AND the police)



APC, question2, yes the world is becoming too controlled, it is turning into a BIG BROTHER world. My motto in life is 'Do what you want as long as it doesn't hurt others' paraphrased from Aleister Crowley.



apc2010


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useless social workers saying you cannot smack your kids ,,, then you get cases like baby P? who they could not care for......



LaptaMike


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apc they are jobsworths



Brinsley


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Quite a few Poms that disobeyed UK law are happily living in TRNC!



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apc2010


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i thought g robb , asil nadir, white(milkman), the rbs swindler, dodgy meat man had all left ....



Brinsley


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APC

Well, that's 4 out of 5, Asil Nadir doesn't count, leaving all other expatriates pure as the driven snow? Talking of which, I think you missed out a few white contraband dealers on your short list!



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19/10/2010 07:23

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My take on this is from the other direction... only disobey laws when you think they are fundamentally wrong and go against your belief in what is right and proper... Given this focus, which laws should be broken?



yenibob


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if we pick our laws that we like and ignore the rest we will be happy......for a very short while



Groucho



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Yenibob, my point exactly



Turbo


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I am a smoker, yet the smell of cigs, from the next table bothers me when I am eating, I would not light up if people are eating close to me. A bar is a different story.

Stick to the law.



ilovecyprus


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psychologically we need laws and to also know that we can break laws. As humans we can experience both conformity (the need for law) and freedom (the need for laws to be dismantled). It's what you call a double bind. We are controlled by, and need to express both polarities. How rich to be a human being



Marx said something like, laws would make us powerless, weak, impotent and worthless.

Durkheim said something like, without laws we would drown in a sea of chaos ending up being both directionless and motionless.

Both unpalatable

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Societies that are emerging need strong laws to build a base on which to develop, A`lack of rules and structure keeps them stunted. More stable countries need to be looser with their laws and to allow a fuller expression. The same can be said for individuals. Children and teenagers need laws to help their frontal cortex develop which will give them the control , for example being able to save money etc, other wise they live purely for the moment



layby_lil



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one should only break laws when there is a better then average chance of getting away with it



jimmyG


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Yes -once it is the law then you must expect to be penalised if you are caught disobeying it & ignorance of it or disagreement with it is not an excuse.



apc2010


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what about illegal downloading / copy dvds etc..........???



Tootie


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what about illegal taxi's....



rowlo



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who makes these laws ? live and let live , you will be dead soon .



No1Doyen


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Of course people should obey laws.



apc2010


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who should create this laws/ judges/ dictators/ eu etc...????



apc2010


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what about geoff and mary ..??? did they beak any laws ..???



apc2010


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pauline ..????



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