Another computer Q linking 2 computers ? - sorry !

the2ofus


Joined: 13/02/2008
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Message Posted:
20/10/2010 18:39

Hello all you helpful computer folk !!! Sorry to keep asking Qs but i only ask after i have tried (and failed).

Have wireless router all set up (2 computers A and B) - how do i set things up so computer B can access files/places etc that are on Comp A ? I download bbc i player and vuze onto comp A but sometimes want to watch them from Comp B in another room or garden.

Thanks .

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
20/10/2010 20:01

If you are using windows on both computers which I am guessing you are because it is too damned expensive to run 2 macs then the following site might help



http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/File-sharing-essentials

Pippie


Joined: 02/12/2009
Posts: 1288

Message Posted:
20/10/2010 21:31

Every operating system does this in slightly different ways but basically, provided you have created a network or workgroup, on comp B, create a 'share' and allow access to the files for comp A.

the2ofus


Joined: 13/02/2008
Posts: 637

Message Posted:
30/10/2010 15:39

I have tried and tried and failed miserably !!!!!!Cannot see more than 1 computer on Workgroup. Have used the "wizard" and still it is not right. Blummin technology.

Is there anyone out there who could come and help set it up for me please or can anyone reccomend anyone - I am in Catalkoy.

Thanks

Pippie


Joined: 02/12/2009
Posts: 1288

Message Posted:
30/10/2010 19:42

Kim, do you have a networking switch. You'll be able to get a cheap one from any computer shop (I'd recommend Laconic computers since you're in Çatalköy) and you'll need 2 cables. You'll also need a network card on each computer.



Connect the two cables, one from each computer to the network switch and then you should see light activity on the network card on the back of each of the computers.



Then, follow my message above, or the wizard should guide you through.



If you've got the above pieces of hardware in place and are still struggling, give us a ring - 0533 884 4069 and my hubby will try to help.

AndyR



Joined: 23/04/2009
Posts: 317

Message Posted:
30/10/2010 20:11

You say above that you can't see both computers on the network.



Do a quick check on each computer. Right click on the 'my computer' icon on your desktop, choose 'properties' from the context menu that appears and in the open window that pops up check that both show the same workgroup name. By default, both would normally show 'My Workgroup'.



If they're different, change them so that both have the same workgroup name, then have another go at connecting. I'll keep an eye on the thread and help out if I can.

elkiton



Joined: 15/03/2009
Posts: 514

Message Posted:
30/10/2010 20:43

Hi, I have just set up a 2 PC wireless network, so I understand what you are going through.



The problem is trying to do too much setting up in one go, and out of sequence, far too much to go wrong.

Never mind network switches etc, that's irrelevant. The recommended way to set up a network is :-

Firstly link both PC's with an ethernet cable using the internal adaptors. Then you create the network group using the wizzard. Then you set up folder and file sharing. Then you test it. With it all set up at this level and working, then you set up the router and wireless cards to see each other,then the encryption.Then disable the Ethernet and enable the wireless.Then disconnect the cable. If you really need help, turn up at my place with a bottle of wine and all the hardware and we will do it together tomorrow.

TonyE

Bahceli

elkin_tony@yahoo.co.uk

Pippie


Joined: 02/12/2009
Posts: 1288

Message Posted:
30/10/2010 21:30

Sorry to dısagree Elkiton but a network switch is very relevant. I presume the2ofus doesn't just want to set up a network for today - but wants to be prepared for the future. In order to set up your network for the future to be able to add in other devices/pcs in the future easily, it's better to use a switch.



Using the Elkiton way, first you assumed that the pcs being used have wireless capability. But also this way, only the pcs could talk to each other, and the only way to add in say a printer in the future would be to connect the printer directly to comp A and share it with comp B but then comp A would have to be switched on each time comp B wants to print.

elkiton



Joined: 15/03/2009
Posts: 514

Message Posted:
30/10/2010 22:41

Sorry, no Pippie,

Having read the message 1 again to make sure of what was asked for, I suggest your approach is trying to complicate matters un-necessarily, this is not clever when the poster has trouble in making the most basic network operate.. The man is not asking for an office network for the future, his question is how to file share using a router. Let's get him working with what he asks for, before we go on to discuss networked printers. Your network switch comment is based on what you would want, or perhaps later in the future, not his needs at present. Nothing I have said has precluded this feature, at the right time.

Having been in IT for over 45 years i am very willing to debate this point further with you, but not in this man's thread. So, let's get back to the most basic of faultfinding techniques in any situation, put the circuit together in as simple a way as possible, get some functionality and grow it from there.

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harita


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 1343

Message Posted:
30/10/2010 23:40

Having been in IT for over 45 years .. 1965 ????



Not many photo copiers about then .. If any ..

elkiton



Joined: 15/03/2009
Posts: 514

Message Posted:
31/10/2010 09:53

Ok Harita,

I appologise for the inaccuracy, 1963 I did my apprentice Electronics training. The IT technology came in 1967 with the Ferranti Argus 200. I joined the "new wave" of mini computing from the USA in 1976, PDP-11, then on to VAX-VMS, more recently Windows and Linux. Although retired from full time employment (but still dabble), technically it was electronics for 47 years, IT computing and networks 34 years. - and no, I never worked on a photocopier although I did service plenty of the "washing machine" disk drives now seen in the science museum!!



Back on track. Re message 1, the2ofus, if you are still stuck please give me a call 05538444882



Best Regards

TonyE

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
31/10/2010 10:02

Pippie,

Not to get to deep into this or do detract from what the2ofus require, a netwok switch as opposed to a wireless router would make no difference to the requirement.

A hub or router or even bridge as I have heard them called will share the amount of incomming data allowable speed between the computers connected to it. A switch will as the name suggests switch between the prioritised computer on download of data in packets i.e. if comp A wants to download a movie and comp B wants to download music the first comp in line will recieve a data packet of I believe up to 64Kbits maximum and then the switch will go to the next download priority which might be comp A or Comp B depending on the request. Not sure this would make any difference to what the 2ofus want but thought I would point it out.

harita


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 1343

Message Posted:
31/10/2010 17:10

elkiton ..



When with Linux .. Did you come across the name Kent Kristenson ???

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
31/10/2010 17:24

Hi the2ofus



I simply don't know how folk can help without knowing specifics



1/ Are you connecting to the wireless router with both pcs via cable or wirelessly?



2/ can both pcs access the net ?



3/ What OS ( operating system) are they using ? ie Windows XP and Windows 7



Having things like a network switch means that bandwidth is allocated to the computer that needs it..not SO important on a 2 pc setup



Tony advocate running an Ad hoc network.. *I* suggest that this is a veritable 'Pain in the ass' as the boss pc must always be on.. to allow surfing / printing by the second pc .. It's a matter of personal preference.



If the answer to 2 is YES, then I can access both computers remotely and you SHOULD end up with the beginnings of a network

elkiton



Joined: 15/03/2009
Posts: 514

Message Posted:
31/10/2010 18:54

Hi Harita, no, never had knowledge of the guy, though I did all my Linux demonstration work out of the IBM London office if that helps.

Marky........"Tony advocate running an Ad hoc network.. *I* suggest that this is a veritable 'Pain in the ass' as the boss pc must always be on.. to allow surfing / printing by the second pc .. It's a matter of personal preference. ...

I'm sorry Marky, but how can ad-hoc be a veritable pain in the ass?

You need one system on, so you run the Host with the printer and internet dongle, 198.162.0.1

You need two systems on, you run the other one up as 198.162.0.2 and it instantly connects, with file and print sharing what can be simpler?

There is also a huge amount of advocacy on the web for ad-hoc working, I endorse it as an uncomplicated way when faultfinding to perform a very valid check of both sets of hardware's ability to run all the functions necessary to make a wireless lan, without the router.

For optimised small business, perhaps not.

Tony