immoveable property commission

ajaney


Joined: 24/12/2008
Posts: 199

Message Posted:
22/10/2010 18:22

There is much talk about the peace talks failing by the end of this year. Bearing in mind the current ECHR ruling about the property commissioon, which is due to close December 2011 which states that unless claims are put in by then claimants must wait until there is a soution for Cyprus, what will be the outcome after that date. Can, or is it likely that, the ECHR might make a new ruling whereby it will be possilble to go back to an Oram's situation again. I suppose the simple question is - is it now, and in the future going to be safe to buy so called exchange properties

waddo


Joined: 29/11/2008
Posts: 1966

Message Posted:
22/10/2010 18:38

Failure of peace talks will not mean failure of finding a solution! The current state of affairs is a solution already but I feel that come Dec 2011 then that is it for any claims from the South on land in the North - regardless of any further posturing and moaning by the poor hard done by refugees scattered across the globe!



You need to wait and see what happens "should" the peace talks fail - hard I know but everyone is almost in the same boat.

cooper


Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 3386

Message Posted:
22/10/2010 18:42

I cant see why the date of December 2011 cant be extended when the time comes and i cant see there being another Orams like case, the IPC was set up to get them away from the ECHR in the first place so they are not going to make any new rulings whereby they end up with them at their door again.



I suppose the simple question is - is it now, and in the future going to be safe to buy so called exchange properties



Only after there's been a solution to the Cyprus problem will we know the answer to that but at the current time if i was in the market for buying i would only buy completed property with exchange title, where vendor's have title in their name.

spondoolics


Joined: 13/06/2009
Posts: 73

Message Posted:
22/10/2010 19:03

The IPC has been accepted by the ECHR as a legitimate organisation satisfying all the rules and regs. Cyprus does not accept IPC and is trying desperately, through negotiation between the North and South leaders to change things. It won,t happen. There is no way that ECHR will return to the system before ruling against the Orams. They were glad to see the back of it. As for Turkey joining the EU, not a chance. Angela Maerkel has been quite forthright and stated that the German integration with foreigners has been a dismal failure. The hope and aspirations of Turks moving to Mainland Europe as full members of the EU is over. Germany and France will be allied even more solidly and never agree to Turkey becoming an EU Member. I am building on esteger land and have no qualms or worries about doing it. After the talks collapse, your investment value will increase overnight. Turkey will turn east. TRNC will be integrated in Mersin 10.

Its the Army Chiefs who will have the final say.

ajaney


Joined: 24/12/2008
Posts: 199

Message Posted:
22/10/2010 22:23

If turkey turns east which looks more and more likely how welcome will us westerners be and what is the likelihood of NC becoming more of an Islamist fundalist state if the Turkish Cypriots leave the island as I have heard that they would do?

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
22/10/2010 22:43

msge 5



It seems to me that Turkey will trade wherever it can. I am not sure it will limit itself to the middle east. It has signed trading deals with China and Russia, but Britain is the second largest importer of Turkish goods. As from this week, Turkish business people no longer need a visa to travel to Britain.



I have not heard of jihadism being incubated in Turkey, so why should it develop in the TRNC. Britain is probably more of a breeding ground.

yrret


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 761

Message Posted:
23/10/2010 09:12

If the IPC is removed, cases will be able to return to the ECHR I am afraid, this is a matter is international law on recognition.

The ECHR recognizes that some of the land in the north does belong to CG's, which no-one denies, and the UN and ECHR only see Cyprus as a whole. The EHCR was more than happy to rule that matter should be resolved locally to remove itself from the equation, if however the approved 'local remedy' is removed, the ECHR will be duty bound to again be the ruling body on matter concerning HR's.

Best thing NC can do is keep the IPC open to show willing, and a means of recourse to both the ECHR and the UN, and of course the EU.