9/11 conspiracy ?????

Spearfish



Joined: 23/04/2010
Posts: 149

Message Posted:
24/10/2010 21:02

What do you think.

Go thru youtube,

its not looking good.

Post here a yes or a no.

with a short message, so we can see how many people believe.

daisy dukes


Joined: 06/09/2008
Posts: 3815

Message Posted:
24/10/2010 21:06

There are so many 9/11 conspiracies out there, it would take a year to get through them all, i know, i have tried! My conclusions are, that although some are very interesting, particularly the bill folding, i would say that 90% is all bullshit!



However, i do enjoy listening to or reading about conspiracies...makes for interesting dinner party evenings.





DD

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
24/10/2010 21:09

Agreeb DD all is mainly rubbish, USA home for all conspiracy theories, do we really believe they didn't land on the moon?

Maybe the earth is flat?

Spearfish



Joined: 23/04/2010
Posts: 149

Message Posted:
24/10/2010 21:11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yx9NRX37SM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-0Ms7mId34

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlWSv0NZBRw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY-gmzxnaVs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7cvjBViV7g

yenibob


Joined: 13/10/2010
Posts: 1203

Message Posted:
24/10/2010 21:11

The earth IS flat! but that is the only conspiracy I believe. The rest are peddled by sad people who lack a life (and a brain).

daisy dukes


Joined: 06/09/2008
Posts: 3815

Message Posted:
24/10/2010 21:16

Actually yenibob, i completely disagree. I think that conspiracies are the work of people who actually sit down and think on matters, the sad people are the ones that don't think at all.



DD

Spearfish



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Posts: 149

Message Posted:
24/10/2010 21:17

There are of course those who will believe whatever you tell them due to them being happy and brainey.

yenibob


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Posts: 1203

Message Posted:
24/10/2010 21:19

DD, Message 6 is just another dopey conspiracy theory. Can you prove it?

Spearfish



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Posts: 149

Message Posted:
24/10/2010 21:37

message 8, There are certain elements of hard proof that can be found on you tube,

Like the calls made from the hijacked plane not even being posible.

the steel in the building melting could not have been caused by the planes fuel due to the fact that the highest possible temperature atainable by the burning fuel was not enough to reach the minimum melting point of the steel.

the owner of the buildings insured it for many times more than it cost him and shortly befor included terrorist attacks in his policy.

the 3rd building that colapsed was not even hit by a plane,

bush claimed to have seen the first plane strike live on tv at the time it happened and claimed that was how he found out, though the first strike was never broadcast live.

there are freeze frames of the planes that hit the building showing it to be a militery plane with no windows.

and the plane that hit the pentagon was caught on brief security camera showing it to be a rocket, there was no engines found.

Spearfish



Joined: 23/04/2010
Posts: 149

Message Posted:
24/10/2010 21:40

It is easier for you to just believe what they tell you. Why would they lie, they only had billions of dollars to gain from the rebuild contracts in iraq and the oil they found there.

yenibob


Joined: 13/10/2010
Posts: 1203

Message Posted:
24/10/2010 21:41

Spearfish. If your proof is You Tube, I would take a long lie down in a darkened room and contact the men in white coats asap!



The worlds media was focused on the secon...............................ang on........... I am arguing with a loon!! Going to go and have a word with my self. Won't bother reading this thread again.

Spearfish



Joined: 23/04/2010
Posts: 149

Message Posted:
24/10/2010 21:48

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv2ck2qsiGA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEU61Cw7VCo

Spearfish



Joined: 23/04/2010
Posts: 149

Message Posted:
24/10/2010 21:50

Yes the worlds media was focused on the second,,,,,,, plane,,,,,, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEU61Cw7VCo

Now go an have a word with yourself.

Spearfish



Joined: 23/04/2010
Posts: 149

Message Posted:
24/10/2010 21:53

By the way, Youtube has documentarys from discovery chanel, it has any news reporrt you care to look up,

So whats wrong with using it as a source of information.



Posting edited for inappropriate language.

AJ

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
24/10/2010 21:56

yenibob

Your message 11, I agree with you and this thread beggars belief. It certainly belongs on another board.

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
24/10/2010 22:01

Look out behind you, I won't fall for that old aaaaaaaahhhh !!!

Spearfish



Joined: 23/04/2010
Posts: 149

Message Posted:
24/10/2010 22:02

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssuAMNas1us&feature=related

And again. This is from the news.

The 3 buildings could not of colapsed as a result of the planes.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
24/10/2010 22:16

i agree with aj xxxxxxxx or watch zeitgeist x

Spearfish



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Posts: 149

Message Posted:
24/10/2010 22:17

Im so pleased

deputydawg


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Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
24/10/2010 22:33

If it is true that the Mafia control the building industries in the USA then the materials used for the buildings were unlikely to conform with the the blueprints and spec of the buildings referrred to after the event. Perhaps like most of the bridges in the USA a strong wind can bring them down or even a strike by a Tiger Moth World War wooden and canvas jobbie ! Perhaps too, Big Foot or a Yeti were being housed in the cellars. Why not use a medium and communicate with those who can give you a first hand account rather than rely on conspiracy theories and youtube ?

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
24/10/2010 22:44

They say that the contents of the human body cannot support spontaneous combustion and the temperatures reached could never reduce the body to such minimal remains especially without causing greter damage to the area surrounding the body however not only can they find no other explanation they can't even prove what someone might use to complete this activity.

hunkydory


Joined: 19/10/2010
Posts: 9

Message Posted:
24/10/2010 23:26

I don't trust the yanks as far as I could throw them. I think the CIA and American Government are capable of anything, including murdering many of their own people to get public support for attacking foreign powers.

I have an open mind on this after watching many youtube videos of the subject. There are some very serious querstions that need to be answered, and didn't it mostly all go a little too well, like clockwork, more like a CIA coordinated job perhaps.

All the buildings that collapsed were owned by the same person and engineers say they couldn't have collapsed that way without a controlled explosion, even with all that heat generated by burning aviation fuel.

Who knows maybe CIA had advanced knowledge of the attacks and wired the buildings with explosives to make a good job of it, as ordered from above, in order to get public support for invasion of oil states.

What about the Pentagon attack, there were never any pictures of parts of the plane that was supposed to have hit

letty


Joined: 04/12/2008
Posts: 360

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 00:31

Message 22, I completely agree with you, Most people just believe what they are told because they dont have the brains to question it, They may also not be able to handle what people will say to them for thinking differently. They then themselves poke fun at the people that do question.

One day the Truth will come out, And alot of people will be in alot of trouble.

Then the non believers will believe because it is then ok to believe because someone told them that they could.

I too have watched some of the information on you tube.

There are alot of highly trained, experienced and educated people on there struggling to believe the official version of the truth due to the fact that the official version of the truth is not possible acording to modern day science, physics and maths.

When the truth does come out it will be a sad day for all.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 00:33

Watch ZIEGIEST the movie it explains it all

letty


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Posts: 360

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 00:35

I will have a look on youtube for it thanks.

letty


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Posts: 360

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 01:57

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHiuaGJ46zo&feature=related

There it is. If anyone watches it fast forward to section 2.

It is just an interpretation of the facts.

Most of you will not make time to look.

because its easier not to.

yenibob


Joined: 13/10/2010
Posts: 1203

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 06:49

It's also easier not to look at the bottom of my garden for fairies, so I won't bother.

gazmufc78


Joined: 03/09/2009
Posts: 366

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 07:44

I must admit that when two planes crash, one into the Pentagon and one into the ground, that no remains are found? Especially the engines that weigh 6 tone each. However it appears that they should have been made out of the same material that the hijackers passport which was found undamaged.

yrret


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 761

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 08:13

Best to keep away from any grassy knolls also ............ just in case.

JohhnyLee


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 2495

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 10:21

There are even some people who think that Diana,s car crash was an accident.



Sorry to go off thread. Some People also think that Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK.

racoonchic



Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3223

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 11:59

spearfish is sniffing old fish with this one ..the boys clearly off his trolly lol sf

letty


Joined: 04/12/2008
Posts: 360

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 13:03

I Know that this is a public forum, Therefor any persons wishing to pass comment are well within there rights to do so but please could we not pass derogatory comments based upon no foundation, Towards very highly respected members of the water inhabitant species, insinuating that they would allow their selves to become old and get sniffed by person deemed to have become seperated from their chosen form of transport.

Could the moderators please look at the membership of RACOONCHIC and consider permenently banning him from the forum on the grounds of racial descrimination with regards to the well disguised racist central part to his Nick name,

letty


Joined: 04/12/2008
Posts: 360

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 13:05

And he is irish so can we ban him for that aswell

mahdel


Joined: 28/05/2009
Posts: 255

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 15:37

ıts easy to find information to support any conspiracy theory. Its just as easy to find information debunking them. People will believe what they wanted to believe before they went looking.

racoonchic



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Posts: 3223

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 16:52

oil second that letty bloody irish

martinD41


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Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 17:55

Eisenhower in his departure speech warned the American people of the "COLOSSAL" build up of the US Military Machine,and it's influences on the USA's Democratic Possesses,without doubt the USA is now run by the Military,this in itself is contrary to a true Democracy.Add to this the unquestionable influence of the CIA, FBI, ONI and the Secret Service,and you have a country capable of absolutely ANYTHING!!!

martinD41


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Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 18:16

The "Greater Masses "of the people will more easily fall victim to a" BIG LIE" than to a small one..........



Adolf Hitler ...... (Mein Kampf)

yenibob


Joined: 13/10/2010
Posts: 1203

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 18:22

"Some people will believe any old rubbish"





"When you have to quote Hitler to make your point, you have lost the argument (and the plot)"







YeniBob.........(Cyprus 44)

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 18:35

I don't see why, he told lies to his own people and they believed him,,,"THAT'S THE POINT."....Why America lied to it's people is "THE PLOT"

Albert5



Joined: 19/12/2009
Posts: 59

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 19:19

Hi the video that Lilli says, Zeitgeist, it's free on Google Videos, go here:



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3767487358149440770#



If you are not informed is because you don't want.



I see the main problem with the Anglo-Saxon cultures is that they are not used to the idea that the governement can be against its own country's population. But Americans already did it before, just to have a public EXCUSE to do what they want (in this case, control the Middle East). That's life...

LOvegod


Joined: 22/03/2009
Posts: 161

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 19:27

Agree, Albert5. next thing will be Iran has a nuclear capability which can strike at washington, sound far fetched ? Just wait..............

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 19:41

Albert5......Well said.the trouble with the Unthinking Majority is they care more for things close to home and either don't know or don't want to know about anything remotely worrying or dangerous....You know the sort of thing,"Hundreds dead in Somalia"never mind who won the match last week,is it your round? ...............

yenibob


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Posts: 1203

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 19:44

Just going to pop out and check for a full moon!

martinD41


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Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 20:00

msg43 Good ,have a long look you might find some enlightenment,though I doubt it................

martinD41


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Message Posted:
26/10/2010 20:37

Speaking of enlightenment,Winston Churchill read" Mein Kampf" in order to understand the Pathology of his Adversary................No doubt if you had read it in 1938 you would have said "what a lot of rubbish" Thank god it was Churchill that read it instead of you ....

yenibob


Joined: 13/10/2010
Posts: 1203

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 20:57

If I had read it in 1938 it would have been a bloody miracle.



Anyway, pleasant as this little discourse has been, onwards and upwards, time to move on and chat with some adults, but please remember:



I may not agree with what you say, but I will fight to the death for the right to tell you that you are completely wrong.

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 21:20

yenibob you have proved yourself to be the mindless idiot that i suspected....if you can find some adults willing to listen to your small minded dim witted rhetoric ,in words of up to three syllables,typically salesman,I will be very surprised





Fight to the death, careful,there might be adults listening

yenibob


Joined: 13/10/2010
Posts: 1203

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 21:22

Temper, Temper, young man. Now off to bed with you.

martinD41


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Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 21:33

I don't loose my temper I just feel sorry for people that are unaware or untroubled by the events in this world,I know we cant change it ,but we at least should be aware of all that transpires and accept that there are too sides to every story.And sometimes the THIRD story turns out to be the right one ....Do you not agree

yenibob


Joined: 13/10/2010
Posts: 1203

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 21:34

Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be

martinD41


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Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 22:03

Thank you, but they are not my views, they are the views of many Americans I have met when I worked in the US.I worked amongst Building Contractors, Vietnam Veterans,Regular Soldiers ,US Marines and their widows.....etc I doubt they are wrong......But "Hay Ho" you might be right

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 23:10

Albert msg 40 does it open your eyes, i am in shock until i see hoe much money was made for a certain few very rich americans. whoever mentioned the Irish do you really think we wanted any of it x

flawww


Joined: 12/09/2010
Posts: 52

Message Posted:
26/10/2010 23:38

There is enough evidance, and i say EVIDANCE out there to confirm the theorists are not just making it all up from thin air (like the federal bank in US does with its non existant money in the first place).

U ought to dig just a bit deeper than ur shallow beliefs.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
27/10/2010 00:12

jeaz did you see the money printed and how much from each dollar goes back to the reserve (The rich families). Pearl harbour staged to get them into the war to make money from weapons, it goes on. there is enough evidence thats why they will allow a mosque to be built. For any one who has not seen the theory watch zeitgeist the movie, it will change your views.who runs all the security catering body guards etc in war zones, how many quote went in, one. the chief who discovered it got sacked. one quote dick chenenney, company Haliburton

letty


Joined: 04/12/2008
Posts: 360

Message Posted:
27/10/2010 00:58

To all the people who dont believe.

If It came to light with undesputable facts and evidence that the americans did

demolish the 3 towers their selves, would you then believe.

If bush and everyone else involved all ended up in the gas chamber over it,

Would you then believe it.

You would wouldnt you.

Do you know why you would.

Because someone told you, you could.

Because at that point it would be ok and normal to believe it.

Where as at the moment,

If you look at all the facts and evidence that will lead you to believe,

You still wont because your not supposed to.

............

All the facts evidence proof and anything else you might need are there.

Just there is no group of people on the planet big enoughand powerful enough to do anything about it.

Because they are the biggest most powerful people on the planet.

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

They cant just go and start a war for money.

They need a reason.

they need the public behind them.

one way or the other.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
27/10/2010 01:06

Letty i believe you but why. HOW THE HELL

letty


Joined: 04/12/2008
Posts: 360

Message Posted:
27/10/2010 01:11

How the hell what

letty


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Posts: 360

Message Posted:
27/10/2010 01:23

so far about 7 people posted.

1 does not believe

2 dont care

4 are sure something untoward happened.

yeni bob sounds like a bit of a dimlo but I counted him anyway.

Please post your views on what happened.

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
27/10/2010 02:32

slighty off topic for all of you who don't live by ..strickly .x factor . on ice .with me....





check out a Bill Hicks ,,, long gone at 34 rip .......





google and learn ,......john cleese loved him...

ataturk


Joined: 09/09/2008
Posts: 712

Message Posted:
27/10/2010 08:36

Yenibob some people on this post have given points and listed videos you can watch. You have done neither apart from be condescending. If you have any evidence to suggest otherwise dont be childish and put peoples points of view down. If you are uncapable to participate in quite a serious discussion intellectually or otherwise. Stick to posts that are more suited to you.



For anyone interested http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY2NXPl625A

yenibob


Joined: 13/10/2010
Posts: 1203

Message Posted:
27/10/2010 08:43

Sorry ataturk, but this is not an intellectual discussion, I joke about it because it is a joke. If you feel that by posting from Youtube I enhance my position...Well here you go!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7Xf-eOOHFk



At the end of the day we are all free to have opinions, my opinion is that there are some serious loonies loose in this world.

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
27/10/2010 09:04

MESSAGE 13



good video and thought provoking,goverments are capable of all kinds,im sure in many years to come all will be known,as with princess dianas murder!

yenibob


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Posts: 1203

Message Posted:
27/10/2010 09:18

http://postimage.org/image/15t4nph38/

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
27/10/2010 09:42

letty

Message 55

First of all what are you on? because I want some.

Secondly I do not care a damn about what is perceived to be going on in the outside world. I have my own life to lead and that I will do to my best ability. Some people spend too much time pontificating about what/if etc rather than addressing and getting on with their own lives.

AJ

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
27/10/2010 10:02

By the "OUTSIDE WORLD" we can assume you mean anywhere outside ALSANCAK......A touch introverted don't you think .....





regards.. Rob

letty


Joined: 04/12/2008
Posts: 360

Message Posted:
27/10/2010 17:09

Alsanjack cack, Im sure you enjoy life to the full with your pint glued to your face and your keyboard stuck to your fingers, If you dont give a damn about what is going on in the outside world why are you even engaging in this thread, is it to put other people off of giving a damn as well. And what makes you think I dont address or get on with my life, You say some stupid things , but then most stupid people do,

letty


Joined: 04/12/2008
Posts: 360

Message Posted:
27/10/2010 17:27

You quoted my post 55 only to respond with (i dont give a damn)

I have seen on previous threads where people have responded with irelivent answers and you have asked in your capacity as an administrator why they bothered answering,

Now I have to ask why you bothered posting.

Who cares if you dont give a damn,

who wants to know that you dont give a damn.

what is the point in telling people on a public forum that you dont give a damn.

Why dont you just look at threads that you do give a damn and post on those.

You seem to be a bit of a pointless.

letty


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Posts: 360

Message Posted:
27/10/2010 17:45

Is That you seen the error of your ways now and thankfully gone quiet.

Tootie


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Posts: 2037

Message Posted:
27/10/2010 17:48

Msg 66,67,68. Well done for taking the thread off topic...





YAWN !!!

YFred


Joined: 06/05/2009
Posts: 1471

Message Posted:
27/10/2010 17:55

There will always be conspiracy theorist on everything. Judging by the live footage seen there is no doubt that the collapse of the buildings was purely due to the planes flying into them. They were not designed to withstand a fully fuelled airplane crashing into them. There was another incident with concorde crashing into a hotel in Paris some years before 9/11 with the same result.

Really there is plenty of conspiracies to go round without inventing new ones.

How about in 1974 US Government asking Greece to invade Cyprus without any fear of Turkey being allowed to intervene and the Turks being told to get ready for Greece is about to invade Cyprus. Now that's what I call conspiracy.

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
27/10/2010 18:11

Did the Duke of edinburgh have sex with mandy rice davies or christine keeler or maybe both of them



At the same time ?

letty


Joined: 04/12/2008
Posts: 360

Message Posted:
27/10/2010 18:12

I just had bush on the phone.

Its all a false alarm.

he was in now way responsible for the attacks on 911,

The attacks wore infact carried out by the porsche motor company

by way of advertising a certain model of there car.

Tootie


Joined: 28/08/2008
Posts: 2037

Message Posted:
27/10/2010 18:17

Msg 71.... At the same time. lol

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
27/10/2010 19:05

sorry tootie, i should not judge others by my standards

Tootie


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Message Posted:
27/10/2010 19:25

Msg 74... Yup, That's about "your" standard zero

letty


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Posts: 360

Message Posted:
27/10/2010 20:25

Thats us well off topic and due to be closed no doubt.

Blackpoolfan


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Message Posted:
27/10/2010 21:13

Spearfish

Message 9

Bang on i agree 100%.

Blackpoolfan


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Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
27/10/2010 21:16

Veninob and letty,



I can only guess your real id's but you rellay should get out more.

Please take the time to re-read your posts, you will hopefully then realise what a pair of brainless tw*ts you look and then maybe go and post on another board

yenibob


Joined: 13/10/2010
Posts: 1203

Message Posted:
27/10/2010 21:30

Tangerine, you have been in a lousy mood since MK Dons dumped you out of the cup and your league form died. Now cheer up.

letty


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Posts: 360

Message Posted:
27/10/2010 21:46

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIwfIyqrj9s&feature=related

This video is 100% proof that the arabs could not have done 911.

everyone watch it, its 30seconds long and will change your mind for ever.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
29/10/2010 09:30

It didn't change my mind but it gave me the biggest laugh of the week... Epic Fail..



The best bit is the guy's valiant attempt to keep hold of the motorbike and not realising that his hand on the throttle will make this impossible... outstanding!

letty


Joined: 04/12/2008
Posts: 360

Message Posted:
29/10/2010 14:42

You could kinda see it coming LOL