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swannee7

Joined: 21/08/2009 Posts: 394
Message Posted: 27/10/2010 20:27 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 33 in Discussion |
| This has nothing to do with TRNC but thought some of you might be interested to hear about the abysmal lack of knowledge and awareness of the wider world among many of today's English university students. Remember, these are the people we tax payers have supported throughout their educational years but all they seem to have achieved is the ability to read textbooks on their chosen subject(s) and somehow manage to obtain a Degree! Today on a quiz show this university student was asked: " In May of this year a new coalition government was formed in the UK between the Liberal Democrats and.. ? " You've guessed it. "Sorry, I don't know." This from a 20-year old Brit, and she's not alone. What planet did she emigrate to? You don't have to be interested in politics but how on earth can they (students) not be AWARE of what's been happening all around them over this past year ? If she'd said Lib-Dems & 'Labour' I could almost have forgiven her! Bring back the 3 R's sez I . |
Brinsley

Joined: 04/04/2009 Posts: 6858
Message Posted: 27/10/2010 20:29 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 33 in Discussion |
| University Challenge?! Richard |
Quarmby

Joined: 15/09/2008 Posts: 975
Message Posted: 27/10/2010 20:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 33 in Discussion |
| Perhaps she could not bring herself to say it! |
gooligan

Joined: 30/01/2007 Posts: 1591
Message Posted: 27/10/2010 20:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 33 in Discussion |
| 20 year old students live in pubs,if the pubs dont have a TV then they are knackered on current affairs |
yenibob

Joined: 13/10/2010 Posts: 1203
Message Posted: 27/10/2010 20:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 33 in Discussion |
| Was Corrie not on then Swannee? |
Sayit

Joined: 15/10/2010 Posts: 47
Message Posted: 27/10/2010 20:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 33 in Discussion |
| Is it Liberals and National Front? |
proger1


Joined: 18/04/2009 Posts: 2919
Message Posted: 27/10/2010 20:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 33 in Discussion |
| I would still rather be 20 and unaware of things and not just because it was a great time in my life. |
Tiggy

Joined: 25/07/2007 Posts: 1994
Message Posted: 27/10/2010 20:45 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 33 in Discussion |
| She was to ashamed to admit to knowing! Students = work dodgers |
LaptaMike

Joined: 07/10/2009 Posts: 1679
Message Posted: 27/10/2010 20:48 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 33 in Discussion |
| gooligan, never seen Al Murray - The Pub Landlord? ;-) |
Harold2555


 Joined: 19/04/2008 Posts: 1139
Message Posted: 27/10/2010 20:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 33 in Discussion |
| Statistically in the UK Students drink less than equvzalent young people who have jobs at that age. Still soap dodgeing workshy parasites though! (I have seen Al Murray) Harold |
mahdel

Joined: 28/05/2009 Posts: 255
Message Posted: 27/10/2010 21:20 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 33 in Discussion |
| Heh, when I was a university student I could tell you all about socio-linguistic patterns in eastern europe and other such essential knowledge but rarely knew what happened in politics, unless there was a vote on a vital local issue such as beer licenses. They're too busy learning what they're told to and hanging out in pubs or hooking up to care about things like national elections. Remember, they don't pay taxes (or much else, if they've got nice parents) yet so elections don't effect them much. |
Blackbird


Joined: 11/08/2009 Posts: 1432
Message Posted: 27/10/2010 21:24 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 33 in Discussion |
| Re message 1. For difficult questions like that one, students ought to have a choice of three possible answers??? |
Geoff1131MK11

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Message Posted: 27/10/2010 21:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 33 in Discussion |
| Well dont keep us all in suspence, whats the answer?????????????????????????????????????????????????? |
LaptaMike

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Message Posted: 27/10/2010 22:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 33 in Discussion |
| When I was a student I used to read the papers every day so was up to date with current affairs. Back then I was so on the ball that I had a bet with one of my lecturers about who would win the then upcoming general election. I won. He was the shop steward for all the lecturers/professors etc so couldn't see the trees from the forest or however the saying goes. (I only tend to remember things I find relevant) |
No1Doyen

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Message Posted: 27/10/2010 22:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 33 in Discussion |
| Quarmby- message 3. That's funny. ) |
Tootie

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Message Posted: 27/10/2010 22:23 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 33 in Discussion |
| Msg 14. Mike. "not see the forest for the trees" as the saying goes. (I only tend to remember things I find relevant) |
LaptaMike

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Message Posted: 27/10/2010 22:27 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 33 in Discussion |
| thank you Tootie for setting me right on the saying. |
Hector

Joined: 26/08/2008 Posts: 2352
Message Posted: 27/10/2010 22:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 33 in Discussion |
| How about a question at one of the beloved TRNC quiz nights? 'Name a current TRNC politician other than the President' |
Tootie

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Message Posted: 27/10/2010 22:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 33 in Discussion |
| Not a problem Michael Now you any idea about my Yucca? |
mahdel

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Message Posted: 27/10/2010 22:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 33 in Discussion |
| @msg 18 ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... Does "that guy, you know the one. Lives round the corner, with the glasses!" count? |
Ailletoo

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Message Posted: 27/10/2010 22:50 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 33 in Discussion |
| Oh, come on... at that age I was more interested in who was running the buttery bar rather than the country. Let the young enjoy themselves.. I certainly did! |
shrimp

Joined: 01/09/2010 Posts: 939
Message Posted: 27/10/2010 22:53 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 33 in Discussion |
| heehee..........message 13 is funnier.................. |
LaptaMike

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Message Posted: 27/10/2010 22:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 33 in Discussion |
| not reallt Tootie, never read the thread. Are they watered enough but not overwatered either? They can actually stand getting very dry to an extent. One of ours was in the house in a pot for 6 months without being watered. Looked like it was on it's last legs but a little water brought it round. Now got 4 plants off it by splitting it. |
swannee7

Joined: 21/08/2009 Posts: 394
Message Posted: 27/10/2010 23:26 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 33 in Discussion |
| Thanks, everyone! Feel a load better now after reading your responses, especially after the comments in msges. 12 (well she was given a head start with one of the names!) & 13 (no easy answers, might make it too hard!) which were funny. Don't remember any contestant on that show coming up with the right answer to ' how much water does the average yucca need ?' but LaptaMike had a fair idea. |
LaptaMike

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Message Posted: 27/10/2010 23:48 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 33 in Discussion |
| swannee, sorry for going off topic, it was Tooties fault ;-) |
jimchris09

Joined: 13/02/2009 Posts: 547
Message Posted: 28/10/2010 07:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 26 of 33 in Discussion |
| I once read somewhere that 65% of UK 16 year-olds couldn't hold a world map (without labels) the right way round! |
Panchocat

Joined: 29/11/2009 Posts: 1333
Message Posted: 28/10/2010 09:26 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 27 of 33 in Discussion |
| The labour government over the last ten years has taken a sledge hammer to school curriculum and subjects such as the humanities, history, geography, R.E. etc. were seriously downgraded. Latterly cross curricular teaching has come back into favour to link learning across the board. I was constantly amazed at the lack of general knowledge of many, not all, new young teachers. Cross curricular teaching is great but is made even better by the teacher adding extra snippets of general knowledge. Sadly in a lot of classes I have observed if it wasn't in the notes it wasn't taught! In the pub though, so my young colleagues told me, there was the Who Wants to be a Millionaire quiz machine so at least some of the youngsters are getting some general knowledge whilst enjoying themselves!! |
mistress

Joined: 29/08/2009 Posts: 57
Message Posted: 28/10/2010 10:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 28 of 33 in Discussion |
| Here we go again! Any problem, let's blame the teachers let's not talk about parents who send their little darlings to school with limited if any social skills, the same little darlings that can not eat with a knife and fork, toilet themselves or have a basic grasp of appropriate behaviour. If teachers could spend more time teaching instead of spending time making sure the basic needs of a children are being met then I'm sure we would all be happy. Maybe we should be aware that children spend 17% of their time in the care of eduational professionals the rest in the care of thir parents, parents are first teachers and should take their role seriously. |
swannee7

Joined: 21/08/2009 Posts: 394
Message Posted: 28/10/2010 14:13 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 29 of 33 in Discussion |
| Panchochat (msg. 27) 0 completely agree with your comments. Youngsters today have been taught to read & write (just about!) but have been denied a generalised form of proper education in the way that most of us 'oldies' experienced. What we learned was drummed into us and even with the onset of occasional memory loss syndrome, we can still remember so many facts across a broad spectrum of subjects. In the 'old days' teachers were knowledgeable, good disciplinarians, and quite a few of them were also inspirational. None of that applies today. Not their fault but that of governments over the years, especially Labour. In other posts I've often quoted a wonderful old saying: what Johnny doesn't learn, John will never know. There are so many 20-25 year old Johnnies out there....... What a legacy. |
jimchris09

Joined: 13/02/2009 Posts: 547
Message Posted: 28/10/2010 14:21 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 30 of 33 in Discussion |
| Dumb Britain.... (All true -amazingly- and taken from radio & TV quiz shows) Q: Which 1996 Leonardo di Caprio film was an adaptation of a famous Shakespeare play? A: Errr......Titanic? Q: Which musical, written in 1953 by robert Wright and George Forrest, was set in medieval Baghdad? A: South Pacific. Q: Which flower, found in a pond, rhymes with "willy"? A: Won't he. Q: Give me a word beginning with the letter N that's associated with winter. A: Moustache! |
LaptaMike

Joined: 07/10/2009 Posts: 1679
Message Posted: 28/10/2010 14:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 31 of 33 in Discussion |
| I remember a geography teacher of mine (he was actually the teacher of one of my teachers the previous year). Instead of pinning a map of the world to the wall he would draw it intricately, to scale on the blackboard at the start of each lesson. I had some very good teachers (some exceptionally so) but probably just as many useless ones. I just had to pull my finger out and get down to learning (mostly by myself) |
bimbo

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Message Posted: 28/10/2010 17:03 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 32 of 33 in Discussion |
| All I can say s don't judge the many by the few. |
jimchris09

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Message Posted: 29/10/2010 20:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 33 of 33 in Discussion |
| There are millions of "the few" though, aren't there? |
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