McCann's sign "Substancial Book Deal"

martinD41


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Message Posted:
15/11/2010 15:04

The McCann's have signed a "substantial book deal"chronicling the disappearance of their daughter.The profits go to the looking for Maddi fund.........Yeah right.......

smithy


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Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
15/11/2010 15:19

sorry I disagree, if my little child was kidnapped I would go to any lengths no matter what to find her, how can we put ourselves in their shoes, but for the grace of god we cant, we have to keep her memory alive as one day who knows

sheila

Woodspeckie


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Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
15/11/2010 15:24

What about keeping the memory alive for all the other children that have gone missing?

swyflot


Joined: 07/11/2008
Posts: 916

Message Posted:
15/11/2010 16:32

Msg 2

Smithy, totally agree with your comment , too many people eager to think the worst of others, this is an abducted child for Heaven's sake

yrret


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Message Posted:
15/11/2010 16:35

Insensative innapropriate Link ----- Deleted

Simbas

martinD41


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Message Posted:
15/11/2010 17:17

msg4 Abducted child,so they(the McCanns)say,let's not forget that they are/were suspects and in my view should have been charged with "Child Neglect" ..if they had been acting responsibly chances are it would not have happened...

Pugwash


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Message Posted:
15/11/2010 17:33

Do you believe they killed her martinD41? even if accidentally?

martinD41


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Message Posted:
15/11/2010 17:43

I don't know Pugwash,nor does anyone else.................If something smells fishy ,looks fishy it generally is fishy....

the case is NOT PROVEN one way or the other...........

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
15/11/2010 17:49

If a case is not proven and has been well investigated it seems unfair to keep the "rumours" going that the parents or one of them killed her accidentally or deliberately, all the parents actions after the event until this day do not support the fact that they are in any way guilty, apart from a severe misjudgement at the time, I also have left my kids once or twice to go to the shops or whatever (not the pub!) and I suspect many/most parents have at one time or another.

damchi


Joined: 21/05/2010
Posts: 26

Message Posted:
15/11/2010 17:56

MartinD41 - am I correct to assume you have no children? Is it your view that if parents take their children on holiday then they must never ever leave them for the whole time they are away from home? If this is your argument the only holiday available would be either a caravan or self-catering establishment somewhere? The McCanns are not suspects in the abduction of their child. They won a court case to this effect. Instead of writing spiteful nonsense about people whom you have probably never met and I suspect have only gained your 'information' from scurrilous newspaper articles your time and energies would be put to better use if you helped the less fortunate in this world - there are many organisations/charities in North Cyprus who would welcome volunteers.

martinD41


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Message Posted:
15/11/2010 20:51

msg10.No you are not, I have 2 children now adults .. ,I was not being Spiteful,I never said the McCann,s were guilty I said,that they were irresponsible for a 3 year old,they left the child unattended whilst they were out of sight of the child for some time(read the case history) Nothing could be PROVED either-way and the case was unsolved,(NO PROOF= NO CRIME) therefore left open .As for scurrilous remarks from newspapers,that's hardly my fault,the Newspapers had a Field-day .....Let us not forget how many more children go missing every day,but because they are "unimportant" there is nothing to report,

My time and energies are spent raising money for many Charities,non of which are to do with the TRNC,more to do with the starving masses,.............

shrimp


Joined: 01/09/2010
Posts: 939

Message Posted:
15/11/2010 21:10

If the parents were guilty dont you think they would have let it drop by now!!!! They would be pleased they got away with it not keep it in the public eye...Just take one look at them they are completely innocent obviously.....we have all done things we regret with hindsight....how many people have put their children to bed and been outside having a BBQ for instance.....same difference.....Like message 2, I agree with Smithy.....I would leave no stone unturned to get my child back and I think most parents would do the same, luckily for most parents they have not been in the situation the Mccanns find themselves.....

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
15/11/2010 21:46

I would guess that every parent would be under suspicion if a child went missing.

bazzagirl


Joined: 09/05/2010
Posts: 525

Message Posted:
15/11/2010 21:51

no normal people leave 2 little babies and a three year old alone while they go out enjoying themselves, say one had woken scared, or had been sick, they disgust me, that poor little girl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ste65


Joined: 23/03/2009
Posts: 106

Message Posted:
15/11/2010 23:10

In my opinion the McCanns are irresponsible parents who deserve a lot of criticism.



It's Madelaine McCann we need to feel sorry for. Those McCanns need stringing up. Considering they are both doctors its mind boggling to think they'd leave 3 infants alone with the apartment completely unlocked while they got pissed 500 yards away.



I would never even dream of leaving my kids unattended like that. Not only that the two young twins were too young to be left too. They were of an age were they haven't developed the instinctive survival in case they roll onto their faces.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
15/11/2010 23:12

we can all speculate, I do not agree with them leaving the children whilst they went out. Funds must have now been taken up so I guess this is a way to raise more and to keep hope alive x

shrimp


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Message Posted:
15/11/2010 23:46

Do you know they were pissed???

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
15/11/2010 23:50

I didn't know shrimp.

Blackpoolfan


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Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
15/11/2010 23:51

The Mc Cans have to live with what they did for the rest of their lives indeed what they did was criminal in terms of neglecting a small child.

the butler


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Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
16/11/2010 00:12

The Mc Cans had dinner with several friends within sight of their apartment. All the friends had children whom they left, someone went back every 20 minutes to check on the children. I have done this myself when my children were small and like the Mc Cans never thought there was anything wrong or that anything could possibly happen to them. The Mc Cans have suffered enough and have to live with their mistake for the rest of their lives, please have some compassion for these poor people. The search for Madeline has to go on and how they raise the money for this is up to them. Nobody has the right to sit in judgement of them.



The butlers wife

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
16/11/2010 00:16

Totally agree Butlers Wife. No one knows how they must feel. I have some sympathy for them and hope one day they can get some peace within themselves.

simma



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Posts: 346

Message Posted:
16/11/2010 00:40

They made a huge mistake by leaving the kids alone but are paying the ultimate price for it. What ever your opinion please keep praying for Madaleine.

Kels

Blackpoolfan


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Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
16/11/2010 00:43

Mr B,

With respect these days i wouldnt turn my back on my small children for 20 seconds never mind 20 minutes. In that time they can be abducted, a gas leak, a fire and various other potential hazards. What i cant get my head round is how could people sit enjoying themselves knowing that their small children were under minimal sporadic supervision. Not aged 12 or 10 or even 8!!! nothing more than toddlers sorry no excuse, but a lot of empathy for what they must be going through but alas brought on by their own neglect as a parent.

bazzagirl


Joined: 09/05/2010
Posts: 525

Message Posted:
16/11/2010 20:07

i have no sympathy for them just that poor little girl, i have been abroad hundreds of times with my kids and would never even think of leaving my kids out of my sight for 1 second, ive always taken them out with me or hired a babysitter, which costs peanuts but gives u total peace of mind, , if these people had been ordinary run of the mill people and not consultants and doctors they would have definately had there 2 remaining children taken into care, any normal responsible parent in my eyes would never leave 2 little babies and a 3 year old alone for the evening, even if they were checking on them every 20 minutes, we all know a child can choke from vomit or anything within the space of a minute, they are disgraceful if that had been me i could never ever live with myself how they can is beyond me.

swyflot


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Posts: 916

Message Posted:
16/11/2010 20:58

Whils I am not a practising Christian, reading some of these vitriolic postings brings a couple of phrases from the Bible to mind



" Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"



"Judge not lest ye be judged"



I believe that the McCanns made a devastating mistake, for which they will pay for the rest of their lives and I would hope that most people with a modicum of human kindness will pray for them rather than try to make their poor shattered lives more miserable than they are now. Let them find some peace, if possible

HotHippo


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Posts: 402

Message Posted:
16/11/2010 21:59

None of you posters above, who have thrown more carp at these two people, will ever be able to understand the living hell that these parents have endured since that night!

They have absorbed all the accusations, insults, curses, and worse, that have come their way, because they have one one objective, which is to keep Madeleine's name and face in the minds of the public, in the never-ending hope that ahe may, one day, be recognised, and returned to them.

Now, you can get your attention back on to the "Best Moussaka in North Cyprus", before you damn yourselves further!

HotHippo


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Message Posted:
16/11/2010 22:05

Message 5, I've just opened your posted link - you are one sick person!

littlejohn


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Message Posted:
17/11/2010 02:08

D41 and the rest - get a life you silly prats !!!

simbas



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Message Posted:
17/11/2010 04:58

Msg 5 edited

Simbas

jimchris09


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Message Posted:
17/11/2010 11:42

McCanns..



AAH is on the prowl!

gotavilla


Joined: 22/04/2009
Posts: 175

Message Posted:
17/11/2010 23:23

There are some sick so-and-sos on here. No, the McCanns shouldn't have left their children but hey, what a terrible price they're having to pay. There but for the grace of God? How many of us can say that? So easy to condemn. Let yea who are without sin etc.

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
17/11/2010 23:25

Gotavilla. Sadly I have to agree with you.

Noldoyen


Joined: 18/11/2010
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
18/11/2010 04:19

if they had watched that 2 million as well as their daughter , no wonder it has dissapeared

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
19/11/2010 19:43

The forthcoming "Book" according to Mrs McCann is written in order for the "TRUTH" to be told about the abduction of their daughter .............What other/extra truth is missing ???The only truth is that they were highly irresponsible.............Some get away with it, Some don't.............Sad but true .

bazzagirl


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Posts: 525

Message Posted:
19/11/2010 20:48

yes theyre suffering but how much have they made there own daughter suffer, no sympathy for them sorry.

MsGarnet


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Posts: 989

Message Posted:
20/11/2010 02:53

So many holier than thou, moral high ground polemicists. NONE of us have gone through our lives without making mistakes, some (such as the McCann's - with catastophic results) usually though, there isn't a very high price to pay, so the mistakes are forgotten. How many of the judgemental people on this thread have spoken on the mobile whilst driving, driven whilst over the limit, left their children in bed whilst they are in the garden having a barbecue in the evening, with friends and family and neighbours going in and out of the house unchecked (a huge majority of violations, rapes, and abuse happen within the home by people known to the children).........children have even been abducted from their own bedrooms whilst others were sleeping nearby..............the McCann's will NEVER recover from losing their child, made worse by not knowing if she is dead or alive, suffering, or with people who actually love and care for her - MAYbe not even knowing her provenance.......heartbreaking

martinD41


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Message Posted:
21/11/2010 09:54

So. Now we have almost all supposedly been judgemental,may I politely ask, Who out there will buy the book?

shrimp


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Message Posted:
21/11/2010 10:28

MsGarnet, well said, totally agree 100 %

HotHippo


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Message Posted:
21/11/2010 11:09

I'd like to think that a Moderator would take the view that this post ought to be closed, as even the original poster seems to have had enough of it. Such a shame that he decided to "share" in the first place.

simbas



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Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
21/11/2010 12:03

HotHippo , If that is the general consensus , i will happily close it

Simbas

martinD41


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Message Posted:
21/11/2010 12:13

msg39 Hot Hippo.. It was in the papers,don't you read them?Or do you prefer to wait and buy the book?If you read the first post you will see that I was questioning the fact that ALL profits would go to the Maddi fund,a bit like All the "Band Aid Money" going to Africa............No doubt "you" think it did...........

honestie


Joined: 22/02/2009
Posts: 468

Message Posted:
21/11/2010 13:43

message 41



if everyone who has an interest in various charities never paid in as dont know where it goes then what a sad world.



i am cynicical as to where it goes in any charity but doesnt stop me making a decision to do it. As for the macanns you me and the majority of people will never ever know the full facts as we werent there we relied on the papers.



I have had enough dealings in as serious cases to say people are so very very easy to lay blame . There were other influences too like the big child abuse ring in portugal recently with top police judges etc having been convicted. Makes you think!



They have suffered the ultimate suffering for having left their children but for there the grace of god a misjudgement has been made by many parents me included



why you should put the topic on as you did I dont know . do you know something we all dont

martinD41


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Message Posted:
21/11/2010 14:33

msg42 I don't trust some charities,I can only go by my experiences with some Famous ones that tuned out to be rather more a business than a charity........ ..........The McCann,s made a tragic mistake (as we all have from time to time),the result of which is a life of purgatory that is obvious,but why so many posts are defensive of their "Mistake". I will never understand................Surely it is Madeline we should be thinking of, along with the rest of the World's missing children.........Why is there not a book being written about all of them?

HotHippo


Joined: 25/03/2010
Posts: 402

Message Posted:
21/11/2010 15:04

MartinD41 - what you actually wrote, in your frst post, is copied below:

"The profits go to the looking for Maddi fund.........Yeah right....... "

You have written plenty more since, in the same vein, none of which is informed fact; most of it is snide innuendo, and veiled accusations of "guilt" on the part of the parents. A few others have similarly used your post to express their thoughts, many of which are beneath contempt.

You, and they, very clearly without knowing any of the facts, are prepared to judge the parents, and doubt the sincerity of their continuing search for their daughter.

I, for one, have read enough of your poisonous drivel, and will not read any more of it. Your thread is now closed, so far as I am concerned.

martinD41


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Message Posted:
21/11/2010 15:30

msg44.Thank you for offering your opinion....I am sure the "ALMIGHTY "will be the judge, us mortals can only reflect on the fact that Maddi went missing through "NO "fault of her own....

honestie


Joined: 22/02/2009
Posts: 468

Message Posted:
22/11/2010 00:46

the opinions you got are more in response to your posting as quoted .... the profits go for the looking for maddi fund....yeah right...



as you say maddi went missing through no fault of her own and if the book brings attention back to it and monies go to the continued search then good and to keep a continued search costs money and I would do exactly the same .



I do think a book about all missing children would bring attention but I assure you theres more missing than could even be believed. unfortunately a world we live in and as I said in a previous post from your comment do you know something others dont.



I think the topic is such an emotive one theres bound to be emotive replies and dont know what purpose this thread is doing

phylray



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Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
22/11/2010 01:04

It is only sensible of them to try and keep their missing child in the public memory and I have a lot

of sympathy for them. One can hardly imagine the pain and misery they have endured, and the guilt

too. But we would all like to know what has happened to that child, and the truth must come out surely

to give at least closure on this case, not forgetting many others just as distressing.

apc2010


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Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
12/12/2010 00:10

what ever happened about Ben Needam ??? (sorry for the spelling) who went missing on a greek island ..???