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mummyincyprus

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Message Posted: 26/11/2010 21:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 96 in Discussion |
| I would like to praise work of ~Dr Meliz at MEDIKENT who on the 21st Nov saved my life during a life or death situation. I was 23weeks pregnant on the 10th Nov 2010 when at my villa I lost a gush of blood and went to see Dr Mariam at Jinomer Surgery in emergency. she called an ambulance and personally transferred me via ambulance at speed to the state hospital in Lefkosia. I was petrified of losing my baby, but was reassured by DR Mariam that she was putting me in the best place. My Husband also clarified this with her 2 days later when he called her to ask if she was sure it was the best place considering I had a Placental Abruption. Which is a life thretening condition in pregnancy which can be fatal to mom and baby. I was placed on a filthy ward with doctors who were't even trained to use the scanning equipment. The doctors cant even take blood correctly, the were fishing for veins. you are not allowed yr husband with you apart from visiting hrs. Continued.. |
mummyincyprus

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Message Posted: 26/11/2010 21:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 96 in Discussion |
| Continued. On 19th Nov they didnt monitor either me or baby, and I told them i was concerned. they didnt seem to care. I felt incredibly ill. at 3am on the 20th Nov they scanned me and said that baby was in distress, and his heart beat was 120. theyswithced off the monoitor and did not continue or do anything. the left me concerned and in fear that my baby was dying. i text my husband from my hospital who personally went to the hospital and wasnt allowed in, and he told them his wife is laying in hospital heavily bleeding and in distress that I was going to lose my baby. Eventually he got in, and stayed with me, but they were not happy at him being with me. I was becoming more afraid for my health and my baby. at 7:30 am on 20th Nov the doctor scanned me, and said my baby's heartbeat had stopped. he was 24weeks (6months) and in the rght hands would perhaps had a chance in intensive care had they acted earlier. they then wanted to deliver my dead baby without my husband present. |
mummyincyprus

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Message Posted: 26/11/2010 21:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 96 in Discussion |
| cont... At this point my husband told the staff he was to get me to a different hospital. We called MEDIKENT and told them the situation. I spoke to Zali (receptionist) who was very sympathetic and told me she'd send an ambulance for me and bring me to MEDIKENT. The staff at the government hopsital refused to let me go without my husband running downstairs to pay and get a release form. eventually we got to MEDIKENT, and they did some blood tests. my white blood cells were sky high and I had a massive infection. I looked majorly ill, and my baby was dead inside me. I met DR MELIZ, who was the most sympathetic and professional doctor you could ever want handling you at this point. she scanned baby, and confirmed his death. she did everything possible to make this situation as stressfree as possible. I was monitored in a private bed, with incredible team of staff including midwife, theatre team who evetually had to deliver mybaby c section, because it had become a life or death. |
mummyincyprus

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Message Posted: 26/11/2010 22:00 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 96 in Discussion |
| My baby was stillborn, and treated with the greatest respect by the staff at MEDIKENT, who to this day have respected my wishes, and saved my life. Had my husband listened to DR MARIAM, i could also have been dead. The state hospital is not a hospital to have a birth with your husband/partner present as this is against their rules. They disrespected me and my family, and they did not listen to my concerns or cries for help. Also you have to collect yr own medication from the pharmacies outside the hospital, which my husband had difficulty finding as it was BAYRAM WEEK. MEDIKENT had all the drugs they needed onsite, and medical staff to deal with the incredible life thretening situation tboth me and my husband and unfortunately deseased 24week much loved baby , who we will be having a funeral for on TUESDAY 30th NOV 2010. We are still mourning our loss, and any support the british residents here can give us, we would appreciate at this difficult time. Thank you to DR MELiz. |
Lilli


Joined: 21/07/2008 Posts: 13081
Message Posted: 26/11/2010 22:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 96 in Discussion |
| Oh my god how very sad and distressing. Im so very sorry you had to go through all this and to loose your baby. May he always rest in peace. What treatment you had. I once went through delivering a dead baby and it fills you with a total sense of loss. My heart goes out to you both x |
pdobbo

Joined: 26/11/2010 Posts: 10
Message Posted: 26/11/2010 22:21 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 96 in Discussion |
| New on this forum, but as an ex-midwife I cannot understand how these attitudes prevail in 2010. My deepest condolences on the sad death of your baby, my heartfelt wish is that you and your husband find the strength to come through this tragedy together. x |
Teresa

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Message Posted: 26/11/2010 22:26 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 96 in Discussion |
| OMG that is the saddest thing i have read and my thoughts are with both you and your husband at this very difficult time. Not sure what we can do to help but please dont hesitate to call me 0533 8673530 if you need anything. |
mummyincyprus

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Message Posted: 26/11/2010 22:49 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 96 in Discussion |
| Our baby will be having his funeral on Tuesday 30th NOV in The British Cemetery Kyrenia in the rememberance garden, behind the Greek orthodox cemetery. We are still making arrangements through the BRS. I'm sure our baby boy would like to know his tragic death will be remembered and any condolences, words and flowers would be greatfully accepted by ourselves and our baby at his resting place. Your words of support mean a great deal to us. |
Ozangirl

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Message Posted: 26/11/2010 22:56 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 96 in Discussion |
| That is so so sad and very distressing for you both, I expect it makes you feel like almost giving up on NC when such an emergency cannot be dealt with quickly and efficiently, it's very scarey. I fortunately did have a baby here at the Tunccevik Clinic in Bellapais and they was actually fantastic I have to say, but to go through what you have just gone through is horrific and unimaginable. My thoughts are with you and your husband. Stay strong. May you little boy "Kai" rest in peace. |
Lilli


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Message Posted: 26/11/2010 23:03 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 96 in Discussion |
| What time is the funeral, i will get there with flowers x Your baby boy will know his death was not in vain and i hope in time you both will know that . You must allow yourself time to grieve, its natural . i cant stop crying for you xxxxx |
mummyincyprus

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Message Posted: 26/11/2010 23:13 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 96 in Discussion |
| We are meeting with someone from the BRS who is coming to our home to discuss the funeral arrangements etc on Sunday, we will post the time of the funeral on here as soon as we know on Sunday. x |
Lilli


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Message Posted: 26/11/2010 23:16 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 96 in Discussion |
| thank you, have you got your family here to support you x |
mummyincyprus

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Message Posted: 26/11/2010 23:23 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 96 in Discussion |
| My mother is aware in the uk, but unfortunately cant get here in time for the funeral, so there is just us here. we'd hoped to start a new life here with our baby boy, in our beautiful villa, everything was going so well for us. I had a massive bond with my baby and was very excited at the prospect of his naturalbirth due in March 2011. |
Lilli


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Message Posted: 26/11/2010 23:27 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 96 in Discussion |
| Oh, I can understand the difficulty of flights etc here. Recently I couldnt get back for a family funeral and still beating myself up. Just let me know the time when you can and I will be there for you x Sweetheart that bond will never go but what is important right now for Kias sake is the two of you x |
shrimp

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Message Posted: 26/11/2010 23:36 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 96 in Discussion |
| I am so sorry for you and your family and for Kai who left this world too soon.....my daughter's friend lost her baby this week too, again a still birth. The baby was perfect in every way, and they do not know why it happened, although the baby was two weeks overdue......she only went in for a routine check up.......so I do understand a bit of what you are going through. As if that is not enough without the dirt and squalor and the incompetant dr and nurses you had to deal with, my heart is heavy for you and I am sending you a big hug and you are in my thoughts....... |
MsGarnet

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Message Posted: 26/11/2010 23:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 96 in Discussion |
| I weep at your deeply sad news. I implore you to be careful having had a caesar, to allow your body to recover, as well as your mind. I lost a few babies before my beautiful daughter so know exactly how you feel -devastated, angry, unbelieving.....all I can say is that one day, you will find acceptance of something that right now, is beyond unacceptable. I also send my deepest condolances to your partner, who is suffering as deeply as you. I am glad you have Lilli there. I have never met the lady; hope to when I get back to Cyprus, but in the interim the lady, I can assure you, has a heart the size of the Island. I hope your mum can get to you soon to give you both a cuddle and say goodbye to her grandson at his resting place. One day, you could take Kai's brother or sister to place a picture of them, with a letter from you two, just under the soil, to then sit and tell Kai how he will always be in your heart - memories don't leave, like people do, they always stay...... |
MsGarnet

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Message Posted: 27/11/2010 00:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 96 in Discussion |
| Can I also suggest you find out if there is a grief counsellor or counsellor per se on the Island? You may feel you can cope - but oftentimes a third party can help the two of you get through this horrendous time together -I wish you all the best, I sincerely, truly do........ |
Lilli


Joined: 21/07/2008 Posts: 13081
Message Posted: 27/11/2010 00:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 96 in Discussion |
| MsG iIm no one special but this has touched me so much. If I can give comfort to them i will of course. I know what its like to be so far from your family when you need them. I only wish I could give her love right now. You like me lost a few and you do feel empty x Cheryl my email is guidoandliz@yahoo.co,uk or call me 05338336911. but please phone teresa . |
babygirl

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Message Posted: 27/11/2010 08:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 96 in Discussion |
| Dearest Cheryl and your family, how absolutely devastating for you. I also lost a baby boy at just over 6 months into my pregnancy and like others will completely understand your grief and suffering. Although my darling son would have been 20 years old this year had he survived, I think of him daily and wonder what his life would have been. My heart goes out to yourself and your family and I also think that counselling will help, if available over here, something I wish I had done at the time of Roberts death and many years later did. If you ever feel the need to talk to "someone" my number here is 05338302282. Kai will live on forever through you x |
BoTanica

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Message Posted: 27/11/2010 08:53 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 96 in Discussion |
| I am so very sorry for your loss. I cannot imagine a more distressing situation. Take care of yourself x x |
spider

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Message Posted: 27/11/2010 09:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 96 in Discussion |
| Dear Cheryl what a terrible thing to have happened to you both, and how frightening it all must have been for you both too, My heart goes out to you both at this very sad time, Please call the above number as she has offered you support and kindness to talk this is very important as the months pass that you do not struggle with you emotions just to allow others to see how strong you can be,but inside you heart is breaking always. Please also feel free to call me at any time I have counselling experience, and would always be happy to have coffee and a chat, Please do not feel you have to stay strong it just is not natural and your feelings will change around into feeling very angry too.This offer is also for your husband to he may also wish to talk to someone. I wish you well in your long heeling progress. And my thoughts and prayers are with you both.. Maria. |
spider

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Message Posted: 27/11/2010 09:45 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 96 in Discussion |
| So sorry Cheryl my number is 0533 839 5561..never feel your alone. Maria. Spider,X |
Alicat

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Message Posted: 27/11/2010 09:56 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 96 in Discussion |
| Dear Cheryl - my heart is full of sorrow for you both and baby Kai, our thoughts and prayers are with you. Sending you a big hug and love. Alison |
mummyincyprus

Joined: 16/10/2010 Posts: 37
Message Posted: 27/11/2010 10:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 96 in Discussion |
| One other thing that we didnt mention and still dont quite understand is that baby Kai died on my husbands birthday 20th November. This makes the whole event even harder to accept. |
GinaC

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Message Posted: 27/11/2010 10:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 96 in Discussion |
| Its hard to know what to say in times like this, even worse when you can only write a few fwords on a forum but please accept my sincere condolences on the loss of your baby, my heart goes out to you, your husband and family. x |
mummyincyprus

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Message Posted: 27/11/2010 10:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 26 of 96 in Discussion |
| We will try to return calls to the people who have left numbers for support this evening. Thank you |
babygirl

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Message Posted: 27/11/2010 10:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 27 of 96 in Discussion |
| Dear Cheryl, apart from the arrangements that are necessary at this time please don't try to rush anything, especially your feelings which will change daily, hourly, minute by minute and if you don't want to call anyone then don't feel you have to. All of us who have left numbers for you will hopefully be here whenever you are ready or you may not ever want to make those calls, do what you need to do, not what you think you should do. I have an amazing friend who during my immediate grief days (and a long time after actually) was used to picking up her phone and hearing a loud scream from the other end..... I never had to say a word, she understood x |
vonny

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Message Posted: 27/11/2010 10:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 28 of 96 in Discussion |
| so sorry to hear of your loss of baby kai,he will forever be in your hearts.condolence to you both.I hope you will contact lilli,spider or someone that you can talk to as talking really does help,my heart goes out to you both at this very sad time. |
numpty

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Message Posted: 27/11/2010 10:47 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 29 of 96 in Discussion |
| Cheryl, this is so sad i am so sorry for your loss, do as batgirl says do not rush things, my daughter died 31-3-2009, she was 36 and i still have not returned peoples phone calls or e-mails, i am not ready to do it, take as much time you and your husband need to grieve, love to you all xx |
Checkmate

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Message Posted: 27/11/2010 10:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 30 of 96 in Discussion |
| Really sorry to hear this Cheryl, I send our sincere condolences to your family and especially you and your husband, you are in our thoughts and prayers. Like what has already been said, it is very hard to know what to say in such sad times as this. Our hearts go out to you both. Both of you take care and keep safe. |
greenman

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Message Posted: 27/11/2010 11:00 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 31 of 96 in Discussion |
| Dear Cheryl, I was very moved to read of the loss of baby Kai, and hope that the tremendous courage you have shown will help you through this difficult time. You have united a great number of people who can understand and share in the grief that you and your husband are feeling. Cyber hugs are coming your way with lots of love. X |
Tatlisu4me

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Message Posted: 27/11/2010 11:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 32 of 96 in Discussion |
| Dear Cheryl, it is hard what to say at times like this. Our familiy pass on our sincere condolences to you both, and if and when you are ready to talk to people please do not hesitate to ring some of these lovely people who live local to you and are offering their support. We are over on the island at the end of December and will be in touch. all our love xxx |
Ballyboffin

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Message Posted: 27/11/2010 11:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 33 of 96 in Discussion |
| You poor girl, I am so sorry for your loss. Sincere sympathy to you and your husband. XX |
mummyincyprus

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Message Posted: 27/11/2010 17:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 34 of 96 in Discussion |
| Thank you to everyone who has given their condolences to us, it is nice to know that there are people out there who understand our grief at this very sad time. |
matula

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Message Posted: 27/11/2010 18:19 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 35 of 96 in Discussion |
| Heartful condolences from my wife and I on your loss and the trauma you have been through. God bless xx |
jamestalbot

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Message Posted: 27/11/2010 18:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 36 of 96 in Discussion |
| My thoughts are with you and your husband at this sad time. God bless you both |
suehowlittle

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Message Posted: 27/11/2010 21:23 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 37 of 96 in Discussion |
| There are simply no words to describe what you are feeling - but remember, you are not alone, there are so many of us who have known the agony, and anger of this loss. My heart was so full and I wept when I read of your experience. It brought back painful memories from 36 years ago which I thought I had locked away. My babies (twins) were also at the 6 month term stage when I lost them. I am 60 now and the pain is still as raw as ever, even though I went on to have another set of twins and then another daughter as well. You will hurt forever, but you will find the strength to go on day by day until nature allows you to lock away your hurt and memories and go on with your life. Never feel alone, and remember, your husband is also feeling the same pain as you. Too many times the poor husbands have to have stiff upper lips whilst their wives get the sympathy. It is shocking for fathers too, and they sometimes blame themselves for it all. God will grant you peace. |
suehowlittle

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Message Posted: 27/11/2010 21:27 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 38 of 96 in Discussion |
| .......and be kind to yourself and be patient with yourself. There is no timescale involved. Each of us is unique and will need varying amounts of time to recover both physically and mentally from such a shocking experience. You have your life (thank God for that) and you have a loving husband, try to find solace in small mercies, I will pray for you both and for Kai. |
Lilli


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Message Posted: 27/11/2010 22:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 39 of 96 in Discussion |
| sue such powerful words, you have put into words what we all want to say. Cheryl Kia is now an angel guiding you, As we all say neither you or your husband feel alone. We will all try to help you to come to terms. Let the grief flow until you are ready to let the healing begin xxxx you have my number xxxxx |
mummyincyprus

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Message Posted: 28/11/2010 14:32 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 40 of 96 in Discussion |
| The funeral for our baby son will be at 11am on TUES 30th NOV at the british cemetery kyrenia. In the rememberance garden, although we dont know any of you,personally, some of you will have been through exactly what we have, and have come out the other side,with more children, these people we hope will be there on tuesday to help us through. |
Jill C

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Message Posted: 28/11/2010 16:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 41 of 96 in Discussion |
| So sorry to hear your news, our thoughts are with you and your family. It may be of some help to you now, or in the future if you join SANDS. They have a Facebook page and you can then read and talk to other parents who are going through exactly the same thoughts and emotions. We lost our little girl 25 years ago and we still think about her all the time. Jill x |
Jill C

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Message Posted: 28/11/2010 16:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 42 of 96 in Discussion |
| So sorry to hear your news, our thoughts are with you and your family. It may be of some help to you now, or in the future if you join SANDS. They have a Facebook page and you can then read and talk to other parents who are going through exactly the same thoughts and emotions. We lost our little girl 25 years ago and we still think about her all the time. Jill x |
Jwheeler&Sons

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Message Posted: 28/11/2010 16:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 43 of 96 in Discussion |
| If anyone can help Cheryl She must register the death with the FCO, BRITISH EMBASSY LEFK0SIA, SHAKESPERE AVENUE and they will issue her baby with UK paperwork for UK repatriation, if necessary. |
mummyincyprus

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Message Posted: 28/11/2010 17:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 45 of 96 in Discussion |
| Its not necessary for us to register the death as our baby was stillborn. we have a certificate of death during pregnancy for baby from MEDIKENT hospital. some people choose not to have a funeral for the baby if they lose it earlier than expected. but as our son was a 6months fetus, we feel its only right he should be laid to rest instead of being incinerated and disposed of by the hospital. he was very much apart of us, and we had a strong bond with him from seeing his personality on scans, watching him suckiing his thumb and he looked so happy and smiled a lot. Memories we will never forget. even if they were unborn images of him. |
DutchCrusader


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Message Posted: 28/11/2010 19:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 46 of 96 in Discussion |
| Dear mummyincyprus: I'm pleased to read that - in between your sorrows - you were also interested in the Christmas presents in this thread: http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/50512.asp ▶ I find it very necessary to state in this thread that the doctor(s) in the Lefkoşa State Hospital saved my life. No details, just a huge and complicated heart problem - nothing less and nothing more ("It's my job", said Dr Halit - but after six years I'm still very grateful). |
spanna

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Message Posted: 28/11/2010 21:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 47 of 96 in Discussion |
| Regardless of your own experiences, DC, I find it slightly offensive that you would, however indirectly, question the legitimacy of this poor woman's grief and the horror of her experiences. By all means, share your positive experiences of the hospital, but I think your other comments are ill-placed and insensitive. I wasn't aware that grief and hardship precludes a person from any semblance of a normal life? I think this lady is simply seeking support and help from the community within which she lives. If you don't wish to offer any, I don't think any comment is necessary. mummyincyprus, please accept our heartfelt condolences. I'm sorry we cannot be there on Tuesday (working :( ), I hope that the service goes smoothly and that you have people there to support you and give Kai the send off he deserves. Love and hugs. X |
DutchCrusader


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Message Posted: 28/11/2010 22:06 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 48 of 96 in Discussion |
| RE msg 48, spanna: You may of course have your own opinion. But I find the attack on doctors of the Lefkoşa State Hospital, as expressed by the patient in message 1, one sided and also very offensive. My experiences in the same hospital and the doctors there are quite different. |
spanna

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Message Posted: 28/11/2010 22:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 49 of 96 in Discussion |
| I take your point, DC - I have no experience myself of Lefkosia Hospital - what concerns me is your personal attack. Cheryl is simply relaying her personal experience. By all means, provide a balance to her experience by sharing your own positive one, but perhaps leave out the irrelevant and, perhaps, spiteful personal comments. I don't want the thread to be hi-jacked, so let's leave it there. I'm glad your experiences were positive - isn't it a shame that not everyone has been so lucky. |
mummyincyprus

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Message Posted: 29/11/2010 00:08 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 50 of 96 in Discussion |
| notthat i need to defend myself but i was actually looking for a piece of electrical equipment, which i'm no obliged to say, but as bad news always comes in threes our kettle aslo broke and was wondering where techmar was so my husband could buy one. but i suppose, i'm not entitled to grieve over a cup of tea either. insensitivity ruins the world. |
MsGarnet

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Message Posted: 29/11/2010 01:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 51 of 96 in Discussion |
| Msg 49 - what a thoroughly mean spirited, uncaring person you are. I want to say more, but at this juncture, in this thread, it would be inappropriate - notwithstanding your personal opinion being as "one-sided" (if you will) as Cheryl's - except in NO way could your experience EVER BEGIN to be as eternally heartbreaking or life-long devastating and irreversible - you had a blip in your life, Cheryl and her husband can never turn back time, so BEFORE you are tempted to respond - simply leave this thread alone now - shame on you |
brumboy

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Message Posted: 29/11/2010 01:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 52 of 96 in Discussion |
| I send my sympathy and heartfelt wishes to you. But I have to say I understand your need to talk about this, but maybe an open forum like this is not the best way to express what you are going through, and the issues that arose from your experience! I will light a candle when I pray for you'r loss. |
simbas


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Message Posted: 29/11/2010 06:48 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 53 of 96 in Discussion |
| My sincere heartfelt condolences go out to you both , i know what you are going through . you never ever forget , but you do learn to live with it after a time , keep strong Cheryl , God bless you both , and your little man Kai Patricia { Simbas } I have sent you an e-mail |
Sazna

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Message Posted: 29/11/2010 07:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 54 of 96 in Discussion |
| Heartfelt condolences to you and your Family at this time, may little Kai rest in peace, our prayers are with you. xxxxx |
Tinkie

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Message Posted: 29/11/2010 09:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 55 of 96 in Discussion |
| I am so terribly sorry to read this Cheryl. I hope that the funeral brings you some comfort and that your darling son will forever rest in peace. |
mummyincyprus

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Message Posted: 29/11/2010 12:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 56 of 96 in Discussion |
| The thing we will always ask ourselves is why Dr Maryem, who also works at medikent, and knew of Dr Meliz who did her 3 yr thesis on placental abruptions, why did she not take me to MEDIKENT to start with? when i arrived at the state hospital, i didnt have an infection but had lost a lot of blood, and baby was in some distress. they gave me progesterone and nidilat to stop the contractions, and i physically laid on my left hand side for a whole 8 days keeping my baby alive inside me by maximising his oxygen intake (always better on left) we were being told that it was looking good and that the bleeding had stopped. but it hadnt. it was collecting behind the placenta, and the docs told me it was fine,and baby was recovering. then the night of his death, i had another major bleed,and they checked via scan and said baby was in distress heartbeat 120.... just why oh why they didnt perform an emergency c section there and then i'll never know. it will haunt me forever. |
mummyincyprus

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Message Posted: 29/11/2010 12:13 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 57 of 96 in Discussion |
| one thing i do have comfort in knowing ,and its always after the event as an adult u reflect on what u should have done bettter.... and we now know that there is one special doctor ,who in the end worked tirelessly through the night to save my life and deliver our stillborn baby via csection; we will when the time is right go back to dr meliz at MEDIKENT and try again for a healthy newborn baby. It pains me to think about the bad experience we've had, and there is one surefire thing inlife... u live and learn. |
Tinkie

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Message Posted: 29/11/2010 12:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 58 of 96 in Discussion |
| Cheryl the only thing I can think is that perhaps the Drs have a proffesional obligation to take someone to the State hospital by law, if there is a life or death situation. Again I am so terribly sorry for your loss and the traumatic experience you have endured. xxx |
metin

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Message Posted: 29/11/2010 16:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 59 of 96 in Discussion |
| This has to be the saddest posting İ have ever read. Please accept my deepest sympathy.......it should never have happened. My thoughts are with you at this difficult time. Dawn |
joandjelly

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Message Posted: 29/11/2010 17:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 60 of 96 in Discussion |
| Sincere condolences to you and your husband Cheryl. I hope that tomorrow goes as well as can be expected xx |
nonna

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Message Posted: 29/11/2010 18:36 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 61 of 96 in Discussion |
| How very sad, deepest sympathy to you and your husband. We will be thinking of you tomorrow your darling baby Kai is with the angels xx |
spanna

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Message Posted: 29/11/2010 18:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 62 of 96 in Discussion |
| We'll be thinking of you and your husband tomorrow and pray that it will be an opportunity for the community to support you in any way it can. God Bless you both and your beautiful boy Kai. X |
suehowlittle

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Message Posted: 29/11/2010 19:19 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 63 of 96 in Discussion |
| I will pray for you all. All best wishes for the future. The human spirit is very resilient, we think we will die of our broken hearts but we dont (thank God) You will, at some point in the future find the peace your heart needs to go on. You will never forget your baby until the day you die, but you will learn to lock the memory away in a special place in your heart where it cannot cause you any more pain. Life is beautiful and you will never be alone, have faith. I will think of you tomorrow when you are at the cemetery. Try to leave some of the pain there,know your baby is with God, and be comforted. Lots of good wishes for your future. |
kathy88

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Message Posted: 29/11/2010 19:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 64 of 96 in Discussion |
| my heart gos out to you and your husband at this very very sad time..your baby kai is in heaven now with the angels xxx |
berilela

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Message Posted: 29/11/2010 22:08 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 65 of 96 in Discussion |
| my heart goes out to you im still morning my granson whom died at 29 days after birth ,in uk i add ,the pain is emence and not a day goes by with out thinking about him ,i never got to see him alive only in the morge but ill treasure seeing him my beloved archie i hope your little kai as now found him to be friends ,i do know how you are feeling as had to nurse my son and his girlfriend through the pain ,my thoughts are with you and im so very sorry for your loss xxxxxxx if you ever need to talk call me xxxxx |
berilela

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Message Posted: 29/11/2010 22:20 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 66 of 96 in Discussion |
| forgot 0533 8799819 .x |
parkview


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Message Posted: 29/11/2010 22:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 67 of 96 in Discussion |
| Dear Cheryl I can only imagine what you are going through, like so many others on here my heart goes out to you, I think these quotes say it all "The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen, nor touched, but are felt in the heart". "If tears could build a stairway, and memories a lane, I'd walk right up to heaven and bring you home again." "Death leaves a heartache no one can heal, love leaves a memory no one can steal". |
Lilli


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Message Posted: 29/11/2010 22:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 68 of 96 in Discussion |
| parkview that made me cry. I hope and pray Cheryl and her husband can be strong. Tomorrow will be hard gor them. Im going with Teresa. I spoke with Cheryl last night, she is holding it together x |
shrimp

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Message Posted: 30/11/2010 18:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 69 of 96 in Discussion |
| I am sure today will have been one of the hardest you will ever have, my thoughts and prayers were with you both.....x |
berilela

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Message Posted: 30/11/2010 18:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 70 of 96 in Discussion |
| im so sorry i got all aready to come to baby kai s funeral and i just couldnt do it i froze at attending another on e of a baby this year please forgive me my gransons funeral still so raw to me and ive been so upset all day that i didnt get there for you so so sorry xxxxx |
Ballyboffin

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Message Posted: 30/11/2010 22:26 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 71 of 96 in Discussion |
| Cheryl, Hope that you and your husband are both OK and have got through the day. Been thinking about you and your baby Kai. So sorry for you. XX |
Lilli


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Message Posted: 01/12/2010 08:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 72 of 96 in Discussion |
| It was a short but very moving service. Cherly and Richard held up very well.Rest in peace baby KIA.Watch over your mummy and daddy. xxxxx |
crofter

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Message Posted: 01/12/2010 08:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 73 of 96 in Discussion |
| Cheryl and Richard were very strong yesterday. Our love goes out to you both, you have our numbers and we are here for you. Now and in the future. Sheila & Peter xx |
vikingqueen


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Message Posted: 01/12/2010 09:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 74 of 96 in Discussion |
| I am puzzled as to why the D Meyrem took you to a State Hospital ( most of us living here, know the low standard that it has) . Dr Meyrem is working as a Private doctor, I would have though that she would have an arrangement with a top hospitals for her clientele. My heart goes out to you both for the loss of your little baby. |
crofter

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Message Posted: 01/12/2010 09:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 75 of 96 in Discussion |
| Vikingqueen.....there are so many of us thinking the same as you. |
lovinit

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Message Posted: 01/12/2010 09:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 76 of 96 in Discussion |
| To cheryl, I am so sorry I could not attend yesterday, I too went through a simimlar experence many years ago. Then lost our baby granddaughter 8 years ago in same situation. Its so heard to understand and come to terms with. My heart goes out to you both. God bless you!!! x |
numpty

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Message Posted: 01/12/2010 10:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 77 of 96 in Discussion |
| Cheryl, Sorry i did not come yesterday, i am still hurting so very much from the loss of my daughter, my prayers are with you and you husband. xx |
mummyincyprus

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Message Posted: 02/12/2010 10:11 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 78 of 96 in Discussion |
| Still battling a major kidney urinery tract infection caused by E.coli, in absolute agony, and been back to MEdikent for treatment which is just starting to get on top of it. the only thing that stops the stabbing-like pain i'm getting from my kidneys and the major spasm like pain, is BUSCOPAN Plus. which is working while the antibiotics (Cipro 500mg) and antiseptic internal wash (which u dissolve in water and drink twice a day to flush out the infection). its an absolute inconvenience, but its getting rid ofthe pain and the infection. Thanks to lilli and sheila and peter for coming to support us on tuesday. although something very simple, it meant a lot to us to not be there alone.its a very daunting and emotionally heart rendering experience burying yr own children, something i never expected would happen, but we got through it. thanks also to TIM HARRIS and ~KEITH BRIMACOMBE, who has helped us come to terms with our loss. Just hoping now to come through this infection. |
Lilli


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Message Posted: 02/12/2010 10:36 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 79 of 96 in Discussion |
| Cheryl so sorry to hear about your infection, There is no need to thank Teresa and I , we felt you both needed support and hated the thought of you facing it alone.As I know Shiela and Peter did also. Just concentrate n getting your body better to enable you to deal with everything else. My love to you both xxxx |
mummyincyprus

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Message Posted: 18/12/2010 11:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 80 of 96 in Discussion |
| one month on, and my husband has turned into an evil person, he assaulted me, and i lost my baby. and now he's living with spider, who offered me free councelling but then charged us. and now she's putting him up at her house, and posting for jobs for him. I kicked him out. i want rid of him for what he has done to me. and to kai. |
juliamoons


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Message Posted: 18/12/2010 11:45 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 81 of 96 in Discussion |
| I am shocked, I thought you lost baby Kai due to other reasons. If he assaulted you and you lost Baby Kai then I am glad you managed to get rid of him. |
DutchCrusader


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Message Posted: 18/12/2010 12:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 82 of 96 in Discussion |
| RE msg 1 (etc) and 80, mummyincyprus. ▶ Who said "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark"..?! Or to paraphrase: who said "Something is rotten in this thread..?" |
numpty

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Message Posted: 18/12/2010 12:29 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 83 of 96 in Discussion |
| Hi i am shocked by what i have just read,are you ok,do you need any help, i am so glad he has gone for your sake, |
mummyincyprus

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Message Posted: 18/12/2010 12:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 84 of 96 in Discussion |
| i am concerned for his safety though, he has no money, 60tl, that is it, and i dont know where he is, he could come back anytime. he has a key. i dont feel safe that he can come back when he wants. the assault was only the start of it. he has been abusing me for years. 8 exactly. this is the reason i came to cyprus. but he followed me here, and wouldnt leave me alone til i took him in. since i left hospital,he hasnt worked or brought any money into the house. and expects me to pay for everything. i haveonly just fully recovered from everything. I am extremely worried about money. and i think i'mgoing to have to goback to the uk.. i dont want to ,but i cant afford to run the house and car on my own. |
mummyincyprus

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Message Posted: 18/12/2010 12:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 85 of 96 in Discussion |
| i need to know he is ok. i threw him out to find a job, but not heard from him since yesterday. he spent the night somewhere. and i think at spiders house, because she hasturned defensive on me too. how can he do this to me when i need his support not him leaviing me to pay for everything!! idont know when this nightmare is going to end. but i wish it would. |
Bradus

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Message Posted: 18/12/2010 12:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 86 of 96 in Discussion |
| Safety comes before a house and money. Consider your health and well being. Go home and get some support and treatment. Being away from the problem will give you time to think and plan, in the safety of your parents home. |
mummyincyprus

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Message Posted: 18/12/2010 12:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 87 of 96 in Discussion |
| dutch crusader, or rather his wife, posing as dutch crusader, i dont have the time or the enrgy to entertain your replies. so please dont speak on my babys thread. |
mummyincyprus

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Message Posted: 18/12/2010 12:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 88 of 96 in Discussion |
| i wont go to my mothers.my husband knows where that is. I want tostay, and be supported by my husband, not assaulted, and abused. i just want to be happy. :,( thats all i ever want. |
DutchCrusader


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Message Posted: 18/12/2010 12:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 89 of 96 in Discussion |
| RE msg 87, mummyincyprus: (...) dutch crusader, or rather his wife, posing as dutch crusader, i dont have the time or the enrgy to entertain your replies. so please dont speak on my babys thread. (...) ▶ You are mistaken, but never mind. You should be protected against yourself (on this board and in news papers) and someone in your circle of friends ought to help you seek medical help soonest. |
spider

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Message Posted: 18/12/2010 13:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 90 of 96 in Discussion |
| Please could I ask that all members not respond to further posting on this thread, and if you feel you would like to contact, may I suggest you do so via email to the poster. Thanking you all for your kindest respect in this very sad situation. Forum 44 should not be used as a feelings board.Things will improve at there own pace. Maria.X |
apc2010

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Message Posted: 18/12/2010 13:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 91 of 96 in Discussion |
| If anyone knows this lady .I suggest they give her a quick call for a chat .. |
No1Doyen

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Message Posted: 18/12/2010 13:32 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 92 of 96 in Discussion |
| Could I ask any members who know the original poster to contact her. There is clearly a problem that needs to be addressed. I am going to close this thread down. |
No1Doyen

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| This thread is now closed.
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