Fire Extinguishers - where to buy in North

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
05/12/2010 11:22

Where can you but fire extinguishers and what sort of price would you expect to pay for them - I am aware there are different types



Does your complex have them ?



Thanks in advance for any information

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
05/12/2010 11:32

Very good point Sienna ? appears no regs are in situ for M/C to put these in place from any laws as of yet, when I approached the question recently

However let us see what forward management companies put this up for discussian with owners !!

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
05/12/2010 11:34

Sienna

There is a local supplier of fire extinguishers/blankets and all things connected and the rep is based in Esentepe village, Glen & Sue from the hotel will be able to help you

A

sienna


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Message Posted:
05/12/2010 11:40

Thanks Lazy Days thats good news, do you have any idea what sort of pricing they are - do you know hte reps name in Esentepe?



S

Lazy days


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Posts: 847

Message Posted:
05/12/2010 11:48

Sorry Sienna

Just know that there are regulations governing public places and the need for fire precautions including fire extinguishers to be in place in most works where over four (I think) people are employed, I recall seeing the service engineer checking the fire extinguishers in the hotel some time ago when we were in for drinks.

Hope this helps

johndp


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Posts: 497

Message Posted:
05/12/2010 11:53

Mess 2

Been on the cooking sherry with that post ??

sienna


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Message Posted:
05/12/2010 11:54

thanks yes that helps

Pipie


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Message Posted:
05/12/2010 12:27

I seem to remember that a place selling these was a shop near to Sea Terra offices opposite side of the road past traffic lights going Girne way. !!

Pipie


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Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
05/12/2010 12:32

Also try these suppliers



Abdullah Bilgen Trading



Telephone

0392 225 5974









TRNC

Dogan Akpinar Co Ltd



Telephone

0392 227 2719







TRNC

Pekur Ltd



Telephone

0392 228 8232, 2641



Hope this helps !!1

johndp


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Posts: 497

Message Posted:
05/12/2010 12:35

Defo been on the trifle sherry, goin north - south east or west hic!



why not leave it to those that really know lol

bazilbrush


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 404

Message Posted:
05/12/2010 12:53

Dont forget to check the date on all your fire extinquishers as I checked mine last week in my car and it was 10 months out of date, so not sure if it would be any good or not?

Pipie


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Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
05/12/2010 13:36

Good point bazilbrush.!!

billybob


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Posts: 576

Message Posted:
05/12/2010 15:45

Sienna

Sorry to hijack you thread but as pipie is now so good at googling things maybe, just maybe, or well just maybe !!! she will stop all her sh1t questions on here, asking about anything or everything just to get noticed, or p'raps she is now gonna be the new brain of TRNC lol Duh !!!

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
05/12/2010 15:58

please I don't want to start all this rowing all I wanted to know is pricing of Extinguishers and where to get them! thanks

Pipie


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Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
05/12/2010 16:06

Let us know how you get on Sienna it would be good to hear .



billygob.

''Chucks'' thank you. ''how nice'' !! now I like that !! Mmmmmmm '' brain of TRNC'', what a complment thank you billygob !!



johnpee.



Do not think billygob agrees with you look what he is assuming, brain of TRNC Ooooooooo what a nice compliment, made my day that has !! MAWR. Toddling off now all pleased I am.

Have a nice day all !!

swyflot


Joined: 07/11/2008
Posts: 916

Message Posted:
05/12/2010 17:21

Ideally you should be looking at water/foam 9ltrs for class a risk and co2 for electrical fires.

don`t go for powder type in enclosed areas as there will be a visibility problem

Home store in the south has EN3 approved extinguishers quite cheap

basil


Joined: 10/04/2009
Posts: 168

Message Posted:
05/12/2010 18:46

Just a minute.



Before you start discussing types and sizes of extinguishers, you should assess the risk - what is there which can burn, what might set fire to it ... and quite importantly who is expected to use the extinguisher(s) rather than raise the alarm and get themselves and any loved ones out to a place of relative safety.



As an example, putting water extinguishers in the hallway of a block of flats is pretty pointless unless you have identified a need for them as part of a fire risk assessment, and feel the need to pay for regular checks to ensure that they are still there and serviceable, and periodic servicing to meet the manufacturers advice.

Pipie


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Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
05/12/2010 19:17

Basil.



You sound an ideal person to advise here, on identifiying fire risks would you be available in the near future to do a walk around a complex , putting in place an action plan/ fire risk assesment ? Just a thought .



Sienna

Hope you don't mind the questions could be an advanatage to us both and many more, if Basil was up for it !!

billybob


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Posts: 576

Message Posted:
05/12/2010 19:24

OK pipie, have to agree with others c u r still on the sherbet , sorry sherry did say p'raps or did u miss that and it's not complment, it's COMPLIMENT hic !!!, but good on ya lets see you put it all to rights brain of TRNC, he ha he ha. sorry hee haw hee haw

See you next tuesday

By that time you maybee sober ha ha.

Sienna glad you got your answer, pity about the gibberish from everybodys friend, and I dont think, but as i said in message 13 she has shown herself up for what she really is now, and is now resorting to muck raking so its open day, yee haw just read message 2 8 & 15.

Message 17 Basil,

Yes we do know a little about risk assessment and fire prevention, many thanks, we are not all like pipie however and can still learn.

Me gone ;)

sienna


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Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
05/12/2010 20:27

to get back on track Basil you are quite right indeed about assessing the risk forst - so in your opinion a pool pump room? a sewerage pump room? do they really need one ? and if htey do what type would they need ? thanks in advance for sensible answers

basil


Joined: 10/04/2009
Posts: 168

Message Posted:
06/12/2010 00:54

Pipie,

I have lots of experience and expertise in this area and although the Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) Order has no place in TRNC, the underlying principles make sense anywhere.



If you want, discuss it further - but not on '44 ;) .... just leave a way of emailing or 'phoning you.





Sienna,

The RRO makes it hard to justify extinguishers in a concrete or block pump room which is not normally occupied. If electrics ignite & burn, would the smoke be a problem to anyone sleeping nearby? If so, automatic detection might be an option, but if there is no one in the room to use a portable extinguisher it's daft to open the door/hatch and have a go for a few hundred liras worth of plant and electrics without a big red lorry nearby (in my opinion).

To manage the risk, put a means of isolating the electrics to the pool/sewerage plant somewhere sensible and label it up. That would probably be as simple as marking up breakers in your fuse box. If you feel heroic, isolate and use AFF

rsalih


Joined: 01/11/2008
Posts: 306

Message Posted:
06/12/2010 07:12

i paid 35tl for mine about a month ago.

sienna


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Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
06/12/2010 08:39

Basil thank you very much I will contact you off board - you are quite right in what you say this is along the lines we were thinking actually we have currently been quoted by a company a huge amount for 4 extinguishers and we are trying to assess the risk first then alternative costbefore going ahead - but your points hae made it clearer!



thank you :0,

sienna


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Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
06/12/2010 08:52

sorry basil see you have no email addie mine is siennadam@live.co.uk - not in TRNC currently to phone but if you can let me know your phone number there is someone that can ring you re this issue - thanks

swyflot


Joined: 07/11/2008
Posts: 916

Message Posted:
06/12/2010 10:00

My business in the UK was fire protection,my company was one of the first to receive BAFE scheme SP101 approval for service engineers,and involved risk asessment.

Before any fire equipment is sited a basic asessment should be carried out,this could be very basic ie, what could cause a fire,chip pan,possible alternative would these new fryers with fitted failsafes etc, check your electrical appliances for the correct fuse,do not put more than 13 amps through any one socket,this includes trail adaptors, no more than 13 amps for the whole adaptor.

And now that winter is here make sure items are well away from the fire.

And the most important of all , make sure that everyone knows the escape plan,pointless trying to decide what to do when you are in the middle of an emergency.

Basil, with all shared occupancy in the UK , standard siting would be 1 water/foam minimum 13a rating

and 1 2kg co2 34b rating per floor,thes are minimum requirements

millzer


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 978

Message Posted:
06/12/2010 10:02

I would imagine the main risk in a pump room etc is going to be electrical fire, nothing else really combustable in there.

Pipie


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Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
06/12/2010 10:32

Basil.



Thank you please E-mail abkellis@hotmail.com.

basil


Joined: 10/04/2009
Posts: 168

Message Posted:
06/12/2010 11:48

Swyflot;



It is not my intent to imply that you have been anything other than scrupulous and fair in your fire protection business throughout a long and illustrious career; but ... my job in the UK was inspecting and enforcing fire safety legislation in business premises.



UK standards are determined by committees made up from interested parties; extinguisher maintenance and fire detection companies have been known to use those recommendations to increase trade.

I am aware of the recommendation for CO2 and water/foam extinguisher, but disagree that it's a requirement under current UK law.



UK legislation is specific in that it permits choice; extinguishers made to British Standards would not be required if an equivalent US or Scandinavian standard was employed and documented - and siting is for risk assessment. Go tell your 'requirements' to Marks and Spencer next time you're in one!



Millzer - you may be surprised at the junk people keep in any available hidey hole Plastic

basil


Joined: 10/04/2009
Posts: 168

Message Posted:
06/12/2010 11:52

Sorry, word count lies to me!



last line should have read



'Plastic chairs!'



also stripey umbrellas, plastic tables, inflatable alligators etc etc.

swyflot


Joined: 07/11/2008
Posts: 916

Message Posted:
06/12/2010 12:29

Basil,

The relevant standard for portable fire extinguishers is EN3,the servicing standard is BS 5306 PART 3,

WHICH DEALS WITH,selection,istalation and maintenance of same.

Were you brigade

swyflot


Joined: 07/11/2008
Posts: 916

Message Posted:
06/12/2010 12:31

Basil.





We seem to have forgotten the most important item THE HUMBLE SMOKE DETICTOR

basil


Joined: 10/04/2009
Posts: 168

Message Posted:
06/12/2010 13:23

Swyflot;



It's been a while but off the top of my head BS EN 3-7 2004 covers characteristics, test methods and performance, while part 8 of BS5306 deals with selection and installation. Both have the status of British Standards and as such are codes of practice, rather than legal requirements.



"The recommendations of this code of practice are intended to assist the person responsible for the safety of the building" [BS5306-8:2000]



My home has interlinked automatic detection, and occasional power cuts make it hard to forget them!