Eroglu and Christofias will meet tomorrow at un controlled buffer zone

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
14/12/2010 20:31

Talks aimed at finding a just and permanent solution to the Cyprus problem between President Dervis Eroglu and the Leader of the Greek Cypriot Administration Dimitris Christofias will resume tomorrow. The two leaders will be holding their second meeting in the UN buffer zone tomorrow morning, following last month’s tripartite meeting in New York.



Eroğlu and Christofias will meet tomorrow morning to continue their discussions in the light of convergence works carried out by their special representatives Kudret Özersay and Yorgo Yakovou.

No1Doyen


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14/12/2010 20:31

Following the Cyprus summit in New York last month, the two leaders instructed their special representatives to work on issues of disagreement on core issues, in order to ease the way towards achieving a positive progress before the next scheduled tripartite Cyprus meeting takes place in Geneva at the end of January.



Özersay and Yakovou held meetings mainly on issues regarding the Economy chapter of the negotiations.

The issue of territorial adjustments in the event of a settlement was also discussed at some point at the meeting.



The remaining scheduled meetings of the two leaders for this month are on the 21st and 28th.

Tenakoutou



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Message Posted:
14/12/2010 20:34

..... and so this farce continues - ad nauseam!

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
14/12/2010 20:35

TK. You are right - when will it all end?

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
14/12/2010 20:42

Bill

Re the title of this thread.

The UN do not control the buffer zone, the Turkish Army do despite what everyone thinks. The UN are there just to monitor the situation. If you step into the buffer zone uninvited you are likely to get shot at by Turkish Troops. Even 6ms will not disagree with that.

AJ

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
14/12/2010 20:45

Dave



http://www.brtk.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=17598:cyprus-talks&catid=5:kktc&Itemid=28



Perhaps someone should tell BRT!

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
14/12/2010 21:08

RE msg 5, AJ: (...) The UN do not control the buffer zone, the Turkish Army do despite what everyone thinks (...)

▶ Between the Turkish (Cypriot) army and the Greek Cypriot army is always a sometimes wide, sometimes narrow stretch of land where neither army sets foot - it is patrolled and monitored by UN troops.

greylag


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Message Posted:
14/12/2010 21:09

Dont get mess 7,being on this thread Toots,

Grey.

greylag


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Message Posted:
14/12/2010 21:16

Doyen,

Will a press conference be held after the meeting,

Grey.

Denny


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Message Posted:
14/12/2010 21:30

AJ Msg 6,



I'm not sure if you mean Turkey is in a position to control the BZ or if she actually controls it. The reality is the United Nations is in charge here and violations by either side are treated very seriously. Each side is signed up to the agreement and have to explain themselves if they go where they have no right to be. Most of the violations including shootings have come from just the one side though, and that is a matter of record. Also it was the same side which from time to time interfered with humanitarian work for petty or political reasons. Not sure if things have changed since 2002-2003.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
14/12/2010 21:34

Grey, I doubt it very much.

greylag


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Message Posted:
14/12/2010 21:43

Doyen,

Is that due to the fact there will be nothing to report,sorry for being so cynical,but errmmm,

Grey.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
14/12/2010 21:46

Grey, exactly!!

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
14/12/2010 22:12

In June of this year the UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon recommended the renewal of UNFICYP’s mandate (UN peace-keeping force in Cyprus) for a further six months, until December 15 this year, saying it plays an essential role on the island of Cyprus, divided since the 1974 Turkish invasion.



As it's the 15th tomorrow what will happen?

Lilli



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Message Posted:
14/12/2010 22:15

Bill they have agreed today to extend for a further 6 months. The vote was 14 to 1. The negative came from Turkey.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
14/12/2010 22:17

Thanks Liz.

deputydawg


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Message Posted:
14/12/2010 22:18

What will happen ?. My guess is silent night but perhaps not all will be holy or bright !

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
14/12/2010 22:23

Deputy - "Oh come all ye faithfull"

greylag


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Message Posted:
14/12/2010 22:45

Maybe there should be some sort of presidents question time.Ipersonally think that other countries should now be involved in the process,

Paul.

greylag


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Message Posted:
14/12/2010 22:47

Lilli,

Mess 15 "14-1" I wonder why Turkey voted against extension,lol.

Grey.

Lilli



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Message Posted:
14/12/2010 22:50

grey i wondered that also as they have 40,000 troops. i think more things are emerging re turkeys entry to eu, the travel deals package they are proposing, they seem busy this week x

andy-f


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Message Posted:
14/12/2010 23:26

i read an article the other day by ergem bagis turkeys cheif EU negotiator for entry , he said turkey had prospered and modernised in the last decade built new roads , hospitals , universitys had one of the worlds biggest and powerfull armed forces had poured millions into the TRNC to modernise it and all had been done without being an EU member .



it wont be the end of the world if we have to keep waiting he said .



hitting the nail on the head springs to mind !

greylag


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Message Posted:
14/12/2010 23:32

Yes Andy,Turkey are big boys now,that can survive without hand outs.I understand that they are 15th in economy ratings,

Grey.

Lilli



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Message Posted:
14/12/2010 23:32

andy my guess they are getting ready to annex us, you know having said that could turkey really annex us here xxxxx It seems Mr Bagis has had a lot to say this week. Now it seems all the tourists they promise are from turkey.

andy-f


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Message Posted:
14/12/2010 23:44

grey , lilli . ive been saying it till im sick of saying it , why the hell do turkey bother at all as ive posted above they are doing more than fine





andy

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
14/12/2010 23:46

I agree Andy.

Lilli



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Message Posted:
14/12/2010 23:48

got to agree love, they know the hold pole position, with russia ready to back them should trouble arise, the collapse of the euro well i could go on but you know it anyway xxxxx They have played a blinder x

andy-f


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Message Posted:
14/12/2010 23:53

in the same article mr bagis said they where well ahead of the game with regards the cyprus problem , if the talks fail turkey has plan B ,C and D he said .



glad im on this side and not the other eh!

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
14/12/2010 23:54

If only we had a crystal ball eh Andy?

Lilli



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Message Posted:
14/12/2010 23:57

e f and g i think also, they know their game x

andy-f


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Message Posted:
15/12/2010

bill its comming to conculsion and its looking like partition , if you go on the cyprus forum ( the souths) they are all saying it so if they think its partition in the greek part partition it will be simple as !



seems they will accept this if there is a land adjustment , they are talking 80% greek and 20% turkish.



andy

Lilli



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Message Posted:
15/12/2010 00:17

andy i heard it was 37 per cent this side, we speak to our greek friends they want it sorted not interested in the polotics. , i wish for everone they would sort it xxx

andre514


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Message Posted:
15/12/2010 02:31

bill message 1



I just love their use of the phrase "aimed at"



after the first successful V2 rocket was test-fired in october 1942,

werner von braun made a little speech, which included the line:

" I aim at the stars!"



since then some wit has added:

"...but sometimes I hit london"

greylag


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Message Posted:
15/12/2010 18:04

How did the chat / tea and biccies go then,

Grey.

CyprusChill


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Message Posted:
15/12/2010 19:45

Interesting times all beit the time scales are not cast in stone and how can they be.

Msg 19. Such a question time would captivate a very interesting audience.

Turkey are very much holding there own in political circles, strength and ecconomy. Talking and debating the future for themselves and mediteranean neighbours and alliances.

greylag


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Message Posted:
15/12/2010 19:49

Mess 35,

Anything happen today,

Grey.

Denny


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Message Posted:
15/12/2010 20:12

Think we'd have heard long before now if anything was going to happen.