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izzet



Joined: 01/12/2006
Posts: 920

Message Posted:
05/09/2008 19:49

Hi All,



I know that there are some problems with the forums right now.

Some features are not working.

Moderation feature is not working, so new members cannot post at the moment.



All is being worked on at the moment.

The hosting company migrated us to a server which is using a US date system instead of UK date system and this is the reason of the latest cockup.



The hosting company promised to fix the server date issue within an hour or so.



--------



Secondly, I read lots of bad language in the posts.



PLEASE BEHAVE OR ELSE I WILL DELETE YOUR MEMBER ACCOUNT WITHOUT NOTICE.



(I already have a list of people that I am watching)



Izzet

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
05/09/2008 19:54

Izzet,



You seem to be having a tough time, sorry.



I personnally think you do a hell of a job.



Don't let people with negative outlooks spoil your site.



There are too many people enjoy it, and are happy to support you.



Lets hear it for IZZET members!!!!



wyn

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
05/09/2008 19:54

Go on Izzet,



tell us who you're watching!!

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
05/09/2008 20:03

It's like being back at school.



Izzet, if you have a problem with the behaviour and language of some individuals, surely the proper thing to do is communicate with those individuals, not treat us as an unruly classfull of children.



And that applies no matter HOW busy you are...



Respectfully yours (Sir)



Keith.

flightholiday


Joined: 19/07/2007
Posts: 3217

Message Posted:
05/09/2008 20:17

Izzet - you are doing a very good job.



I think that moderation is a hard thing as long as arguments are fair and honest they are fine but I agree no back stabbing, uncalled for insults and bad language.



Tom

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
05/09/2008 20:25

Fully support all of what you say Izzet , keep up the good work .

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
05/09/2008 20:27

Izzet,



If they have been thrown off other sites for disruptive postings, give them one last chance.



We all know who they are!



Perhaps we should have a register of people who have been thrown off, and asked to leave other sites. This would let everyone see, who the troublemakers are.



Izzet you are doing a great job, under very trying conditions. Your truly loyal members are



with you! Keep strong!

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
05/09/2008 20:35

why are people worried about Izzet taking the neccessary steps to keep the forums correct. if you are doing nothing wrong when you are posting, what have you got to worry about.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
05/09/2008 20:37

p.s.Izzet.you are doing agreat job,Iwonder if some of THE OTHERS wouldlike your job.

pollytat


Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 87

Message Posted:
05/09/2008 20:39

You have my vote Izzet

Do what you think is best, those who are being disruptive know what they are doing and do not justify a second chance.

Polly

gary65


Joined: 15/05/2008
Posts: 65

Message Posted:
05/09/2008 20:45

Wyn !! you brown nose with the best of them well done

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
05/09/2008 20:47

#11 top post.

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
05/09/2008 20:52

hi all

keith if you have a problem thinking this forum is being run like a school take it up with me because i have conversed with izzet on this and i suggested to place a warning to everyone then if it happens again these people will be banned end of!!!!!

secondly if you have noticed over the week or so i have politley asked people to refrain from foul language and below the belt abuse directed at each other!!!

and to tell the truth the people in mention are lucky cos izzet was going to ban them outright and i said lets give them a warning first and if they step out of line then they will get dealt with

there is no problem with a bit of healthly discussion, banter and some light insults lol but swearing and damm right personal abuse is not called for and if u cant write a post angry or not without conducting yourself in the proper manner then i suggest you go to one of them militant cyprus forums out their!!!

ukturk

Gooses


Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 60

Message Posted:
05/09/2008 20:57

Izzet - as a newish member I find the forums really useful even if our pad will not be ready til 2010 there are some really good people on here who give great advice. Thanks - I think anyone who puts themselves out for others deserves a well done.



I am a Thalassa buyer and Stu Simpson has set up a sep forum just for us - think he is great too!



I know there are also some complete idiots who abuse the forum and some of the posts are just pathetic but you get it everwhere.

smudge



Joined: 07/04/2008
Posts: 160

Message Posted:
05/09/2008 21:00

Concur Izzet/UKTurk and in support of your decision to do the necessary. Love the tongue in cheek banter and straight talking, but bored with the nitpicking, sniping and bad vibe so have not felt inclined to contribute to many of the threads.



Yep the forum has been up and down a bit lately but lets face it, we're lucky to have people willing to organise the thing in the first place. Keep up the good work.



Smudge

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
05/09/2008 21:27

Well said UKturk........about time!



Is there one "f" in Efes or two? Is there two different brands for Cyprus and Turkey.



Did I win a competition. I trust you to tell me UKturk. You and Izzet seem honest geezers to



me. Ban them I say. More effes fo the good guys...or was that Efes?



wynd.

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
05/09/2008 21:55

message 12 now now pikey..........

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
05/09/2008 21:55

hi izzet/ertan

i admit getting irate ,what angers me is when certain people become abusive and racist towards my country and my countrymen and women ,you will never find any posts from me where i have made any remarks towards anyones place of birth ,but some people for reasons only known to themselves continuosly have the need too make slanderous remarks towards my country

sorry guys i will defend my cyprus in whatever way i have too.

kind regards

musin

long live the kktc

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
05/09/2008 22:00

Gary,



Judging by your member profile job description, you seem to know what you are talking about!



wyn

simma



Joined: 03/02/2008
Posts: 346

Message Posted:
05/09/2008 22:03

sounds good guys, we might even get the old 44 back!

john

livethedream


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 455

Message Posted:
05/09/2008 22:04

Go for it Izzet/Erkan - there's plenty other forums that allow abuse, don't let this be one of them.



ltd

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
05/09/2008 22:21

Thank goodness, let them take their insults and abuse somewhere else, it spoils this board.

Paulie


Joined: 12/07/2008
Posts: 23

Message Posted:
05/09/2008 22:22

Izzet, I think you do a great job and thank you for that. This site has been a great deal of use to us. I think the vast majority of people are pleasant and have had many a good laugh at all the jokes and learnt lots about life in TRNC.

Paulie

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
06/09/2008 01:29

I was just wondering how long it would take the bad guys to spoil this BB. Unfortunately I did not wait too long. Good luck to you Ertan and Izzet, you are doing a great job and don't hesitate to do what is necessarry. If you have to modrate or ban some members, so be it. Some are obvously out to destroy this board and they use outright fould language and 100% negative posts.



We are all in favour of opposite views but not in favour of vulgarity or posts deliberately intended to offend.

ismet

littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
06/09/2008 08:27

elko your post is 100% spot on.



Fully support all of what you say Izzet & , ukturk keep up the good work .

schnib


Joined: 24/05/2008
Posts: 101

Message Posted:
06/09/2008 09:14

i fully concurr with message 24.this BB has provided invaluable information and advice.long may it continue to provide this service free from aberrant behaviour

wackyjim



Joined: 04/06/2007
Posts: 760

Message Posted:
06/09/2008 16:14

I promise to be a good boy from now on!!!!

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
06/09/2008 16:40

Quote "if u cant write a post angry or not without conducting yourself in the proper manner then i suggest you go to one of them militant cyprus forums out their!!!



ukturk " unquote



Ukturk,



With the greatest respect, could I ask you to please read again my post (no.4) and ask yourself whether what you have written has any relevance to my post?



I simply suggested that he deal with the offenders directly. Personally I wouldn't even bother warning them, or moderating them, they would simply find that they couldn't log on, and there could even perhaps be a notice posted, explaining why they had been banned!



What I object to is the hectoring, bullying tone of the second part of Izzet's post which appears to be directed at everyone.



If he does have '(...a list of people that I am watching)' why does he not deal with them directly? - and if you have by now re-read my original post, you will see that that is what I asked him to do (Very Politely, as it happens).



I find your implication that I could be one of the people referrred to, and that I may not be capable of 'conducting myself in the proper manner' somewhat offensive.



When you write a post, it is as well to remember that there is a real person at the receiving end, and ask yourself how YOU would feel if yourself or a loved one received that message.



Well, that's just about thrashed that to death! ;-)



Best regards,



Keith

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
06/09/2008 17:24

keith

that particular bit of my message is not directed to you and i was saying it genrally, and with the greatest respect you are only a newbie so to be offended by my remarks is not nessary because i was not implying the way you conduct yourself because i have never conversed with you or seen any of your posts!!!!

maybe you did not understand my post i have actually spoke to most of the people directly who have been offensive and have let my thoughts be known not being just a modearator but a senior forum member

at the end of the day izzet has every right to say or do what he wants on his own forum if he feels things are slipping which blantly it has been, everyone is entitled to their view without abuse on this forum but to actually pin point some people would not be fair (well in my view) so to warn everyone is a good idea because the people in mention know who they are and whoever has respect on this forum have nothing to fear!!!!

and like i said when i spoke to izzet he just wanted to ban these particular members which he has every right to but i mentioned to him to warn everyone then if these people re commit their absusive manner they will get banned

regards

ukturk

davidoff


Joined: 21/04/2007
Posts: 438

Message Posted:
06/09/2008 18:12

Hi all,



Izzet, ukturk- Keep up the good work!!



C44 is one of the most pleasant, informative and useful forums around and sometimes it only takes a few bad apples to spoil it for the rest of us!!



Do what you have to do in ordered to preserve the C44 that we all love?



Take care d x

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
06/09/2008 19:19

Izzet & Erkan,



I have an apple each for you when I come to school on Monday!



Keep up the good work, as you run a great forum.



#11 top post from P.P. I must admit it did make me laugh........wyn you are a resperted statesman on this board.



and to the rest of us. keep the language down and respect each other.

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
06/09/2008 19:33

There are some very touchy people about, what is wrong with being chastised if things get out of hand Im sure it was a general remark and meant in a way that warns everybody on the board to behave themselves.

I for one dont have a problem with this and wish the admin of this site good luck and can I say thank you for a great site.



Turtle

JamesB


Joined: 07/02/2007
Posts: 450

Message Posted:
07/09/2008 10:36

been on a while now and I must admit it has changed lately with the fanatics stiring things up. Let's keep it informative, fun and friendly please.

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
07/09/2008 11:33

Hi All,



Well, I had my say, and I have to respect the fact that the vast majority did not agree with me.



I don't think that simply stating a point of view makes me 'very touchy' though! ;-)



I am sure that Izzet and UkTurk are doing sterling work in keeping the postings on this board pleasant and informative, and I never meant to imply otherwise - more power to their elbows.



Keith.

truffles808


Joined: 16/10/2007
Posts: 183

Message Posted:
07/09/2008 12:08

I do find that writing / speaking through forums, it is very easy to be misunderstood people due to the fact tones, manners and body language are not seen. I do think some posts that are added come over wrongly and I have to sit back and think them through. Now if I had the same conversation with that person face to face, it may well be that I would not take the comment the same way. It does seem to be a problem across the board on forums.

I also do agree with keeping bad language and personal comments off the forum as it is very easy to abuse this system and hide behind a keyboard to slander people. Would you do the same face to face?

I hope I have managed to get my view over clearly without rambling on

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
07/09/2008 12:18

Keith msg 28/35,



I agree although I'm a bit more blunt. IMO unless you support a certain line here, don't show much understanding of context and wider issues, and/or become a crawler at all the right times, you won't be afforded equal protection against unacceptable abuse. Not being very bright can be a positive asset.

kapparis kid


Joined: 03/09/2008
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
07/09/2008 12:34

trufles, best post me lieke it. spotss on init.

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
07/09/2008 18:33

Good post Truffles



I agree that there is much room for misinterpretation. People often do act differently if they are face to face especially if they in amongst a crowd.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
07/09/2008 18:44

Ihave only been a board member for a couple of months and some would say keep your nose out of this ,if we all behaved like grown up responsible adults.izzet and uk.turk would not have had to take the action he thought was necessary.So come on peoples lets all say enough is enough and get back to having a board we can all enjoy.

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
07/09/2008 19:23

Re. message 40 from COACHIE



I really don't mind everyone disagreeing with me - if everyone agreed with me , out of politeness say, or embarrassment, I would never find out what they think.



And surely the point of a dialogue is not to just keep re-iterating one's own thoughts, it is to listen to, and evaluate the other person's thoughts, and eventually decide to agree, disagree, or compromise...



I thought that this has been a fairly healthy debate, and after all, it was MY post that attracted the most Flak! - in case you missed the point, in my original post, I asserted that they should have just dealt with the people who were actually OFFENDING rather than issue a warning to everyone. I thought that if they had done their 'jobs' properly, instead of letting the situation get out of hand, the situation would not have arisen.



I was out-voted by a hefty margin, and I accept that.



Why do you want to stop the debate - saying "enough is enough"? - do you not enjoy free debate and freedom of speech?



And what is stopping you enjoying the board now? - This debate?



You don't actually have to read it and contribute to it if it makes you uncomfortable, not that that is anyone's intention, I am sure - except Pikey's of course! ;-)



I hope that reading that has not spoilt your enjoyment, even if it has made you stop and think...



Very best regards,



Keith.

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
07/09/2008 19:43

Keith, you mentioned the word "Offending" in your last post.

This is exactly the point..... what offends me may not offend you so a polite warning by the moderators to tone it down or take a minute before you post may be the answer ?

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
07/09/2008 20:13

Hi Turtle,



Yes, I've already accepted the majority view - and of course it's even worse than that isn't it - what might offend me in the morning (when I am notoriously grumpy) might be like water off a duck's back by teatime...



However, I had moved on since then (DO try to keep up ) to debating COACHIE's post asking us to STOP debating and "get back to having a board we can all enjoy".



Best regards,



Keith.

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
07/09/2008 20:24

hi

firstly keith this is not a job for me and i dont reap any rewards im just like any other member that happens to have posted a few times!!!lol izzet who is the owner of the site emailed me and asked if i could help moderate the forum cos 2 heads are better than 1 and 3 are better than 2 and so on

so for you to say i should be doing the job properly then it would not have got this far is wide of the mark!!!



like you said about freedom of speech on the forum im all for that, this is what makes this forum better than most and you are entitled to your view and has been noted but this subject and im sure izzet will agree is not up for debate everyone has been warned end of story and like you said you was out voted and yes this forum is enjoyable thru debate, but one subject which is not up for dabate wont make this forum worse its actually the people who abuse the forum! and thats why the site owner made his statement

and turtle's message is spot on

lets hope this word from the management has all wised us up a bit!!!

warm regards

ukturk



p.s and what coachie said enuf is enuf is i think what he is trying to say is enuf about about the debate of izzet comments and lets get back to other debates

littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
07/09/2008 21:16

like Gay ?

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
07/09/2008 21:25

Hi UkTurk,



I do realise that this is not a job in the normal sense of the word, and that you do give your time voluntarily, which is why I put 'jobs' in inverted commas. Also, I for one (and I hope that goes for everyone) do appreciate the time and effort that you put into making this forum an enjoyable place to air one's views and have a healthy debate.



However, can I ask why you let it get so bad that Izzet (on your advice, you say) had to issue a general threat to everyone, instead of dealing with the offenders 'pronto'? Say what you will about the VillaOwners board, but the Moderators jump on anyone abusing the board or other Members - perhaps they've had more practice 'cos their Members are more Bolshie!



I think that you seem to be steering this debate back towards bad language and abuse in posts, when I thought that everyone was in complete agreement that it was unacceptable - I never, for one moment sought to condone it, and would personally have dealt far more harshly with the perpetrators (probably a good 'job' I'm not a Moderator then ;)).



As regards Turtle's message being 'spot on' I think that I already agreed with him (humorously and with a degree of self-deprecation) that 'offense' may sometimes be 'in the eye of the beholder', but my original point (which I have now conceded) was that I didn't think that a general threat, issued to all members, regardless of whether they had offended or not, IN BLOCK CAPITALS! (called 'shouting' in BB parlance, and considered to be rather rude) was, in fact a 'polite warning'.



Which bit of Turtle's post were YOU referring to? (Excuse caps, used solely for emphasis, not intended to cause offense).



You say "lets hope this word from the management has all wised us up a bit!!!" - Who do you include in that 'us'? - Yourself? - Me? I think that we are both on the same side when it comes to fighting abuse, except that I would be inclined to take a stronger line than you...



Regarding your final point, about COACHIE's post, I thought that we had finished debating Izzet's comments (until you brought it up again, and obliged me to respond...) - there is nothing at all to stop you, or anyone else, returning to 'other debates' - if you don't want to continue this particular debate, then you don't have to respond to it. If you do respond to it, or anyone else responds to it, then it simply shows that they are interested in the debate, and it will continue, whether you like it or not. Unless you choose to stifle free speech, of course...



Best regards,



Keith.

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
07/09/2008 21:27

Dear Geoff A.K.A (Cypgab)

I did not take it as a insult, But in my defence unlike most i type very quick and dont look at my keyboard when tryping, So please excuse me if my messages are hard to follow for you!!! i havent had any complaints so far.



Wow is there a shift tab on my keyboard that makes small letters BIG i never knew that!!!!! LOL

On most new keyboards the shift tab is replaced by a arrow pointing upwards key but ill bear it in mind next time!!! lol

Regards and yours faithfully

Mr Erkan A.k.A (Ukturk)

dalartokat


Joined: 14/04/2008
Posts: 734

Message Posted:
07/09/2008 22:17

If I could just make a point also regarding some people who have been on other boards over a period of years and maybe have made enemies, then come onto, say, this board, then make snide remarks about other people or their old enemies and the rest of the other people may miss the dig or insult etc, because they have no idea what people are talking about and that person who is doing the insulting has gotten away with the comment.



As an example messages 45 and 46.

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
07/09/2008 23:05

hi keith

thank you for your kind comments and as you can apprecitate i do have a life outside the forum, thats why i have not got the time to filter thru every single thread which is posted on this forum not thru lack of experiance or that this forum is any diffrent to any other and its members and not that i let it carry on to a point where the owner had to issue a warning to eveyone

i dont belong to any other forums apart from a few turkish ones and this one, so i cant comment about how posters conduct themselves on their but on here up until recently was a well behaved abuse free forum so maybe we have got used to too much respect from other members

belive you me im not steering back on to the abuse issue im talking about izzet who is the owner of this forum was right to issue a general warning rather pin pointing certain individuals who i must say i warned myself

and at the end of the day i said your view has been taken on board but still does not change the fact that if anyone steps out of line again their post will deleted and be banned

as for turtle's comments which i commented on was not directed at you just that im in unison with his view and not that i seeked approaval from you which you agreed on anyway

i include myself and every other member when i say the management wising us up!!! maybe we all can see the forum has lost its edge and appeal for us experianced members and hopefully this will change!!!

anyone for knows me from my posts that i will continue to debate till the cows come home!!!! lol irrelavant of being wrong or right

and coachie comments i was not bringing up the debate again just simply explaining what he cud have meant

and again i wud not silence another pesrons view because i wud not want that happened to me especially if im making sense

you are right we are on the same page about abuse but maybe you might have a bit more disclipne than me but im not on some forum mercy mission for the good of the community im just a normal forum member that just has the right to delete and edit peoples messages

warm regards

ukturk

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
07/09/2008 23:07

keith caley.... having read my post again I dont see any thing in it that gave you the impression I was advocating we stop healthy debate.I was trying to imply that as responsible adults we should not have to resort to bad language or accusations, and as turle said we should adult enough to take a rebuke from the moderator if we cross that line.I also said Keith in an earlier post that if you were doing nothing wrong what was there to worry about.It certainly has not spoilt my enjoyment reading this forums comments on anythingand i intend to carry on doing so.

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
08/09/2008 21:22

Hi COACHIE,



Thanks for your response.



I took your comment:-



".So come on peoples lets all say enough is enough and get back to having a board we can all enjoy. "



to mean that you thought that we should stop this debate on this thread.



If I was wrong, would you be so kind as to clarify what the comment actually meant?



As for your phrase: -



" as responsible adults we should not have to resort to bad language or accusations"



I have made it perfectly clear that I do not condone such behaviour, and would have been inclined to deal with the offenders much more severely, and effectively at a much earlier stage.



You also say: -



"we should adult enough to take a rebuke from the moderator if we cross that line"



I quite agree!



The point was that I did not cross that line, nor did you (presumably!), and nor did the vast majority of the Board members.



I therefore considered it inappropriate for a 'rebuke' (your word, not mine...) to be issued to ALL board members - and it WAS issued to all board members, - it was marked "PLEASE READ"



The above is not intended to drag this discussion out, and by now anyone who has read this far surely cannot claim to be ignorant of my views, but I am quite happy to continue with this discussion for as long as anyone else wishes to continue with it, although as stated previously I do accept that the majority have no problem being treated like schoolchildren, and 'rebuked' or warned about behaviour in which they have not actually engaged.



Or is it simply that anyone who dares to say anything which is, in any sense, not 100% supportive of Izzet, no matter how inapropriate they consider HIS behaviour, is treated like a pariah, and subject to attack by 'the crowd'?



Best regards,



Keith

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
08/09/2008 21:51

Keith,

It seems that the original post by Izzet has really irritated or even upset you I can understand your views on this so perhaps the right course of action is to take it up with the moderators and maybe sort it offline.

I am not a part of "the crowd" but I genuinely believe that no offence was intended when this was posted.

Thats me done with this one ?

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
08/09/2008 22:11

Hi Turtle,



I thought that I had long since indicated that I was finished commenting on Izzet's email, but people still keep on mis-interpreting it, and somehow assuming that I am condoning bad behaviour - it is those posts that I am responding to, and simple re-iterating my original position for the avoidance of any doubt.



I don't want anyone to think that I am in favour of that sort of behaviour!



Also, a few of the posts are a bit ambiguous (not uncommon with posts!) - so sometimes I seek clarification.



And so it goes on...



I am, in no sense, of needing to 'sort it out with the Moderators' Izzet followed UkTurk's advice (apparently) and took a course of action with which I disagreed.



The majority indicated that they were quite happy with Izzet's action, and disagreed with me.



I said that I accepted the majority decision (doesn't mean that I AGREED with it, of course!).



However people still seem intent on arguing about what they perceive that I said, and adding even more misconceptions, which I attempt to clarify...



Have a nice day there!



Best regards,



Keith.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
08/09/2008 22:22

hi keith ....like i said in my last post keith if you have done nothing wrong then ignore it, i certainly ignoredit along with the majority of other board members.Perhaps my choice of word sounded abit harsh to you ,keith , so shall we say apolite caution, does that sound any better. Its abit like being in a golf club keith,when some individual does something not quite right . the commitee issues a general warning to everybody so you are aware of the situation.Like yourself, keith, I am retired ,but i certainly did not feel as if some one was treating me like a school kid,and I have had no dealings with Izzard or his companion who started this board several years ago,so if there are rules to abide by I will certainly do that. I hope I have made things alittle clearer from my posts. yours ...coachie

dalartokat


Joined: 14/04/2008
Posts: 734

Message Posted:
09/09/2008 00:45

Cypgab, if you are referring to my message as a light hearted comment, it was actually supposed to be a valid point of what is going on and unfortunately, probably the majority of people on this board have no idea, even now, what is being said.



I fully understood what Nigel was saying in response to your posting to Ukturk and very surprised that you didn't. Its not a case of having a different sense of humour, in fact this is quite the opposite. But as I said, if people dont know the history of certain members then how can anyone deal with them.



Nigel knows exactly what he is doing and saying its a pity others don't But as the saying goes, what goes around comes around.

jackeen


Joined: 25/06/2008
Posts: 222

Message Posted:
09/09/2008 11:39

Izzet and UKTurk, A good job is being done. Yes, there have been problems with the site after the change over but hopefully its not fatal. Yes, I have noticed the posters you talk about and yes I do believe that they needed to be treated like naughty children. In UK they would be classed as having special needs and would need a learning support assistant to help them and on this site in steps Izzet and UKTurk. Well done for the moderation!

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
09/09/2008 12:45

It's clearly evident that some people have nothing to do all day long and find it amusing to come on to these boards and humour themselves by making petty / smug comments abouit almost evrything that is said on this and other boards.

You won't stop them. They will continue to wind up some of the members until eventually the board gets either shut down or the 'real' members go somewhere else. We've seen it all before on other boards.

Don't get sucked in and respond. It's really not worth it.

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
09/09/2008 12:54

No1Doyen,



I couldn't agree more.



Glad that you have more sense!



Keith.

Chick-A-Dee


Joined: 16/06/2008
Posts: 342

Message Posted:
09/09/2008 13:21

I totally agree with message 36.



Offending someone is so easily done, different cultures backgrounds etc. What one person finds funny, and humourous another may be offended by it.



Izzet, I think you should issue clear and concise guidelines, a set of forum rules and regulations. If this comes from you, then we should conform to what you think is acceptable.



Don't hide behind threats, come out and let everyone know if something has offended either you, or you feel it may offend.



I think everyone as the right on a forum to speak their minds, and I agree that sometimes the tone etc can be misimterpreted, if so, then tell that to the person who has offended you, give them a chance to either apologise or be able to defend their message!



I post witty remarks, that I do not believe are smug. I write at that I don't intend to offend. I don't beleive anything I have written has been smug. If I have thought someone has said something out of context, I tell them!

littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
09/09/2008 14:39

" My personal gripe is people who make serious accusations on public forums, trying to ruin the reputation or livelihood of their chosen victim, without any proof. I will continue to question any who do in the future. "



For example calling wynyard man a thief ?

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
09/09/2008 15:26

hi

you guys really crack me up, you even manage to argue and disrespect each other on a subject that you have been warned not to (like it or not)!!!!!

maybe i should not have told izzet to give out a warning just simply ban a whole load of people and be done with it

at the end of the day i really used to enjoy posting and helping and having discussions with banter but that seems to have gone and all that is left is the tit for tat BULL!!!!!

maybe izzet shud just ban who needs to be banned and me delete or edit anything that is slightly offensive if none of you cant even agree on such a simple thing as respect for one another on a forum that is here to help and forge friendships

so come on guys get a grip lets not let this forum turn in to another topix or any of the poor excuses!!!!

regards

ukturk

alsancakjack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
09/09/2008 18:21

Isn't it nice to see Brits/Brit Expats arguing amongst themselves. I have always said that Brits (especially Expats) will always make life complicated for themselves.











ps comments like this are not very productive , so what is the point !

no1doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
09/09/2008 20:29

AJ, spot on.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
09/09/2008 22:19

Erkan,

Message 64 well said my friend,

Paul.