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LaptaMike
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Message Posted: 22/12/2010 23:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 84 in Discussion |
| I can't believe how rude some Brit expats can be. I went to a bar tonight and the expats were all very rude to the staff. Why can't the expats be more friendly and understanding? If your friendly you'll get a bigger drink................................ |
yorgozlu
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Message Posted: 22/12/2010 23:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 84 in Discussion |
| It's a Brittish thing. |
apc2010
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Message Posted: 22/12/2010 23:11 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 84 in Discussion |
| or a British thing.??? |
LaptaMike
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Message Posted: 22/12/2010 23:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 84 in Discussion |
| I suppose so mate. |
Groucho
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Message Posted: 22/12/2010 23:13 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 84 in Discussion |
| I don't think it's an ex-pat thing, I think it's a rude people thing. |
LaptaGeezer
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Message Posted: 22/12/2010 23:16 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 84 in Discussion |
| Well said Groucho... manners are down to individual people not groups. It is just a sad reflection on those people and the way they choose to be. Not right or proper to blame all ex-pats at all. |
No1Doyen
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Message Posted: 22/12/2010 23:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 84 in Discussion |
| 5&6. Totally with you both on that one. |
LaptaMike
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Message Posted: 22/12/2010 23:19 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 84 in Discussion |
| Gavin, there were Brits on holiday there. They were very friendly to the staff (so were given free topups). I know the staff and the owner of the complex and am always friendly. If I need a little to up of my drink it's done no charge. We're friends. (I trained his parrot to be nice to people) |
apc2010
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Message Posted: 22/12/2010 23:50 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 84 in Discussion |
| maybe a reflection on n/cyprus ex-pats ??? |
Blackbird
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Message Posted: 22/12/2010 23:53 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 84 in Discussion |
| It amazes me on how rude people can be....as said before it must be a British thing!!! |
jimchris09
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Message Posted: 22/12/2010 23:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 84 in Discussion |
| I have lived overseas since 1976 and never cease to be amazed at how the average Brit abroad is such a bad example of what most long term expats are usually like! |
LaptaMike
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Message Posted: 22/12/2010 23:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 84 in Discussion |
| The vast majority of the expats were just to put it simply rude. One lady ordered a drink, watched it being made and then said I wanted it with fresh juice. No apolgy for not asking for the drink in a certain way in the first place. Money down the drain for the owner. |
Lilli
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Message Posted: 22/12/2010 23:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 84 in Discussion |
| I do not think for one second its a british thing, but it is certainly an expat thing. The staff who work here in all bars and restaurants are here to serve you. The expats do take advantage and ask them to top up their glass. They pay 3 to 4 lira all day for a topped up ber xxxxxxxxxx |
LaptaMike
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Message Posted: 22/12/2010 23:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 84 in Discussion |
| I'm not proud to be British anymore |
jimchris09
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 84 in Discussion |
| I am always stunned at the way Brits are out here in summer...walking along the side of the road in just a pair of shorts..turning lobster red ...wi all their tattoos on display...an that's just the women! |
No1Doyen
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 00:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 84 in Discussion |
| Let's face it some of the Brits here do themselves no favours at all in the way they behave and there attitude in general. |
Lilli
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 00:08 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 84 in Discussion |
| thats about right bill xxxxxxxxxxxxx |
Maz
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 00:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 84 in Discussion |
| Maybe they were brought up in the wrong gutter! Oops - nasty me! But one does wonder what they were taught and what they teach their children as the way to behave - especially at this time of the year when people are supposed to be exercising that cute little tradition of 'goodwill to all men (and women and children!) Shame innit. |
LaptaMike
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 00:11 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 84 in Discussion |
| Lilli, I'm not talking about that sort of thing, the owner topped up the glasses of his customers who he knew. It's a loyallty thing I think. |
Lilli
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 00:14 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 84 in Discussion |
| Maz its such a shane and i guess the kids of some expats here would be so ashamed. We have a football hooligan here who uses many ids, what do their kids think of dad. The kids are better teachers than the parents sometimes xxxxxxxxxx |
LaptaMike
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 00:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 84 in Discussion |
| Bill Msg 16, I was in Starling one day. A mountain of an old man was blockink the aisle, I said excuse me please to get past. He grumbled at me 'excuse me please sir' I found that irritating and un-callledfor. I had been polite so why the problem. He was the git blocking the aisle. |
apc2010
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 00:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 84 in Discussion |
| satuday night and their best footy shirt........ |
LaptaMike
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 00:19 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 84 in Discussion |
| apc, and be sick down it it ;-) |
No1Doyen
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 00:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 84 in Discussion |
| Mike message 21. The guy is just a bully 'giving it the big 'un'. He'll ask the wrong person one day make no mistake. |
Blackbird
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 00:25 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 84 in Discussion |
| I was brought up to respect my elders....after working in a shop for the past two years my views have changed....especially if they have a walking stick.......... |
LaptaMike
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 00:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 26 of 84 in Discussion |
| Bill msg24, I'm a big chunky person 6'2" . Not a nice person to meet down a dark ally ;-) I have put people in intensive care in self defense (4 punches). I'm not proud of it, I hate myself for doing it but it's you or them. |
martinD41
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 08:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 27 of 84 in Discussion |
| msg26...Lapta Mike..................... Did you get Charged with A.B.H. or G.B.H.?? |
jenny278
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 09:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 28 of 84 in Discussion |
| Please don't think all ex-pats are rude hooligans, although there are some very rude people young and older who think the world owes them a living, not just in Cyprus either (sometimes I am upset at the level of spite aimed at others on this forum)Most of us try to treat everyone whatever nationality with courtesty, To those who continuously find fault with the UK, having travelled to many other countries GB has its faults but also many ,many good points which far outway the bad. I shall pre-empt some by saying I live here for the warmth, friendliness and love of the island etc not because I wanted to get away, I AM ENGLISH AND PROUD, I WILL NOT CONTINUOUSLY CONDEMN MY COUNTRY AS SO MANY OTHERS DO. |
nigetj
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 09:36 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 29 of 84 in Discussion |
| True expats have manners........its just all the wannabes who live here that think they are special !!!!!!! |
Groucho
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 11:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 30 of 84 in Discussion |
| Martin, is that 'A Big Hunk' or 'Great Big Hunk'? The fact that most Brits don't speak a foreign language probably prevents them from understanding the rudeness of non-English insults... all nations have their rude people, it's the way of the World... unfortunately. Still it would be boring if we were all pleasant. The 'drunk in a virtual-pub' behaviour characters on here are no better than rude people throwing their weight about like Lord and Lady Muck in the real World.... are they? |
begonia
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 12:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 31 of 84 in Discussion |
| Trouble is a lot of yobs in the UK go to live in cheap places like N Cyprus used to be.....and carry on being yobs. When it comes to it they can't really handle being out of their comfort zone. And then they can't afford to go home and turn even more unpleasant. Happy Christmas everyone ! |
bof100
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 12:21 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 32 of 84 in Discussion |
| Hi I have been out here 3 months and have met rude??? people from Turkey, Cyprus, Russia, UK and Australia and during my short life people from all over the world. But I have met nice ??? people and I am still in contact with them. The amount of nice people far outweigh tuthers. Be nice but firm and you will be suprised how many people respond Positivley. |
newlad
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 12:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 33 of 84 in Discussion |
| There is absoluteley no need for it,good manners come f.o.c.When i leave the U.K. and visit another country,i always try to respect the countries culture,and abide by their beliefs.Maybe it was the way i have been brought up, Paul. |
LaptaMike
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 12:23 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 34 of 84 in Discussion |
| msg27 Martin. No, I was acting in self defense. I was hit first. I have quite a good relationship with Greater Manchester Police aswell, having supplied many of their officers with IT equipment and support but that's by the way ;-) |
No1Doyen
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 13:25 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 35 of 84 in Discussion |
| Good manners cost nothing. People should respect each other no matter what walk of life you come from - rich or poor. I was brought up to respect my parents and anyone I come into contact with. I've tried to teach my children and grandchildren the same manners. Hopefully they will in turn teach their children. However in every society you will always get the 'black sheep' or a 'wrong 'un' as some people would say. The TRNC is no different. There is a certain element here, and I've seen them, who really think they are the 'bees knees'. You know the type - sold up (or dodged the UK) came over here because it was cheap. Stuck a couple of hundred grand in the bank and then started 'lording it up'. Mike message 21, I'm glad you never 'stuck one' on that bully. You would have only been targetted as a typical 'brit'. Good on you. |
Ballyboffin
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 13:56 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 36 of 84 in Discussion |
| I went to the Courtyard with some friends to see the Gypsy Brothers. As usual Mo had the tables round the pool only about 18 inches from the edge. I have Menieres Disease and with it a balance problem. A friend and I went to the loo, me edging around the chairs. Having found it a bit dodgy with my balance, we came back around the other side. Shortly after sitting back down a man, who should have been old enough to know better approached me and said. 'We are taking bets over there' and pointed to a group of quite elderly ex-pats (I presume) I asked him what for, thinking that it was odd. He replied, 'To see who is the first person to fall in the pool, and you are the favourite'! Totally gobsmacked I actually explained that I had a balance problem through my illness. He just gave me a look and walked off, not even an apology. Stupid, ignorant old f@rt. I didn't tell my husband until after we went home because guess who would definately ended up in the pool !! |
TopTen
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 14:06 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 37 of 84 in Discussion |
| Sadly it comes down to your upbringing, and it is only going to get worse.You see it every day on British streets swearing, abuse and so on. And I blame the Human rights people that tell us if we smack a cheeky child we could be prosecuted, but then defend these same things that beat old men and women near to death for pennies.The respect as been lost for age / police/ teachers and anything that stands in their way |
trooper
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 14:23 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 38 of 84 in Discussion |
| Frankly old boy, whoever thought it was a good idea to give the working classes a passport should be shot..... |
No1Doyen
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 14:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 39 of 84 in Discussion |
| trooper, are you saying 'off with there heads'? ) |
me-style
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 14:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 40 of 84 in Discussion |
| what is an ex-pat? its a person that is sent to a place by his company, the rest is not ex-pats, just people living here of one or the other reason. This I think we cut the expat population down to 20. This is North Cyprus and a part of Turkey, so please find a style that fits to you are visitors |
apc2010
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 14:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 41 of 84 in Discussion |
| msg 40 .......................part of turkey ..??????? who said ex-pats were ill -informed |
Pippie
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 15:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 42 of 84 in Discussion |
| Msg 40 - you've started to answer the question always churning in my mind - what defines an Expat (just showing my naivety here!). So if the numbers are so small, how come so many people in this thread seem to be accusing so many people? If you've given the strictly correct definition of what an Expat is, then is that the definition others in this thread have used to categorise the people they're referring to (I'd be interested to know)? And, therefore are there in fact more Expats here than we realise? And if all that isn't enough to get you wondering too - nigetj in msg 29 mentioned that there may be a lot of 'wannabees' too. Does that mean you might qualify to be classified as an Expat after so long - but surely not if you don't work for a company already that has sent you here??? So many questions! and sorry to hijack the the thread, I don't mean to throw it off course but I'm interested to know. |
twoexpats
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 15:24 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 43 of 84 in Discussion |
| Pippie - for your information the following is as defined by Wikipedia An expatriate (in abbreviated form, expat) is a person temporarily or permanently residing in a country and culture other than that of the person's upbringing or legal residence. The word comes from the Latin term expatriātus from ex ("out of") and patriā the ablative case of patria ("country, fatherland"). |
Pippie
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 15:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 44 of 84 in Discussion |
| Thanks. So, that just about covers all of us who live here and hold a UK passport! I dread to think I might be included in the stereotyped category of an Expat!! Though I know that I'm nothing like people have described. Then there's another problem - besides the rebellious few who give expats a bad name - how to change the culture of those looking in on expats who have decided 'they're all the same' before it gets out of hand. In the UK you often here words like 'racist' and 'prejudice' banded about and the trouble is, once that starts it only gets worse. You've got the accusators who seem to breed (behaviour breeds behaviour!) and you've got the ones who feel they're the minority being accused who start shouting 'racist' and stirring up more trouble. Both groups are a problem. I can't seem a way to resolve this escalating problem and it makes me feel very sad - why can't everyone just get on happily and peacefully with everyone else? |
apc2010
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 15:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 45 of 84 in Discussion |
| msg 44 your 1st sentence shows racism in itself"just about covers all of us who live here and hold a UK passport! " what about the Dutch, french or ............I could go on........... |
Pippie
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 15:49 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 46 of 84 in Discussion |
| ok - so all of us! But not racist I assure you since I'm not getting at anyone in the process! |
Woodspeckie
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 16:11 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 47 of 84 in Discussion |
| And some ex-pats think they can do what they want, a fine example we were in the Pia Bella Bar when there was a party recently, two ladies came and sat near us in the bar and lit up cigarettes we told them there was no smoking and immediately got a mouth full, "we can smoke it is after 12" they said, we found a member of staff who confirmed the no smoking policy and they were asked to go outside, the looks we got told us everything. |
apc2010
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 16:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 48 of 84 in Discussion |
| msg47.. why get involved why not let a member of staff deal with it..............the other side of that scene they could be describing you as an interferring ex-pat ..??? |
Woodspeckie
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 16:20 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 49 of 84 in Discussion |
| I am not an ex pat and was paying for a right to stay in a bar without smoking and we did ask nicely, not as arrogant as an ex-pat. |
me-style
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 19:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 50 of 84 in Discussion |
| thank you for the definition of the word expat, so this means actually we have in Europe a lot of expats from Turkey, Iran, Iraq, and so on, plus the center of London is full of expats from India and Pakistan, in Europe we call them immigrants so thats actually wrong when looking at your definition. Second in business life an expat is a staff member send by the company to another country where the company has interest to do a specific job for a time limited period. So based on all the expats we have in Europe, as well as all the foreign people living here in KKTC, show respect to other people as we are guests here in KKTC as we are not born here. Its always a good idea to treat other people the way you expect them to treat you. If everything else fails, consider to go home as this place belongs to the KKTC Turks and is neither English or Russian or German or whatever. TSK ve iyi aksamnar |
Groucho
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 20:13 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 51 of 84 in Discussion |
| "If everything else fails, consider to go home as this place belongs to the KKTC Turks and is neither English or Russian or German or whatever. " Whatever your name is, I think you'll find that like most countries it does not belong to one ethnic group and those who seek to instil racial purity are the thin end of the wedge. |
Denny
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 21:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 52 of 84 in Discussion |
| It could just be a "Brits in TRNC" thing. Having met an associated with UK expats in most continents of the world, some but not all of those in north Cyprus are the worst type of person. Something in particular attracts a certain type here and I think we all have a fair idea what. |
me-style
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 21:16 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 53 of 84 in Discussion |
| Groucho, you are in principle right, but there seem to be some confusion among the Brits about how to get around here, as the time of being English colony is over. so lets not push your point too hard ;-) much better they put them self together and find an attitude that fits to to being a guest here and try to find the concept of treating others the same way as they would like others to treat them self. |
DutchCrusader
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 21:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 54 of 84 in Discussion |
| I'm not qualified to answer this question, but some British members are: did some expats, who don't behave as normal decent people in TRNC, behave decently in the UK? Or is it more to the point to say that they were rotten in the UK and - no surprise - are still rotten in TRNC? |
No1Doyen
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 21:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 55 of 84 in Discussion |
| Hans - message 54. "Or is it more to the point to say that they were rotten in the UK and - no surprise - are still rotten in TRNC? " The answer is Yes. |
apc2010
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 22:24 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 56 of 84 in Discussion |
| the problem in n/cyprus ..alot of brits moved there because it was cheap ..... old saying .....pay peanuts .........get monkeys ........... |
Denny
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 22:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 57 of 84 in Discussion |
| Common as muck, as my old gran used to say... |
yorgozlu
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 22:36 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 58 of 84 in Discussion |
| msg 56; Whats your comments got to do with peoples personalities? You could have said,they came here because here they cant be traced and cought. |
apc2010
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 22:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 59 of 84 in Discussion |
| some people dont even know the history of where they live or think " This is North Cyprus and a part of Turkey, so please find a style that fits to you are visitors Therefore your honour I rest my case ...............also I have seen a post that said "I will move here if I know I can get eastenders/corrie /emmerdale" although D/C and I are not friends at less he tries to educate people .......... I do not see one historical post or political post on here from the main posters ...( .except newlad and no1) and look at how views they get ..??? |
Middle Easter
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 22:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 60 of 84 in Discussion |
| Last few comments are so true. Expats (in general) with lemonade incomes/champagne expectations plus the low life factor escaping UK justice are the bane of the NC society. The NC economys needs them unfortunately but as soon as soson as things pick up, restaurant owners etc should tell them to 'FO'... I have been a UK expat for 11 years since I was 34, & Brits in general are the most ignorant bunch I have ever met anyhwere in the Wold...we just don't interact with other countries & act like a little America in so much as we try to re create our 'home-town' wherever we infest, it's so so sad ..... |
rowan
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 23:20 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 61 of 84 in Discussion |
| message 60, hear hear |
me-style
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Message Posted: 23/12/2010 23:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 62 of 84 in Discussion |
| Middle Easter, thank you for your comments. the problem here is if KKTC accept an basically "not needed" group then others KKTC really want will not come |
apc2010
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Message Posted: 24/12/2010 00:03 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 63 of 84 in Discussion |
| middle easter so well said , guess will meet you at the next karoake/curry/ xfactor on ice night ...............lol |
MsGarnet
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Message Posted: 25/12/2010 04:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 64 of 84 in Discussion |
| one is either brought up, or dragged up - thereby lies the difference I suspect......... |
denizen
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Message Posted: 25/12/2010 04:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 65 of 84 in Discussion |
| msg 64, methinks trooper was joking littlejohn. msg 65, one is either brought up, or dragged up - thereby lies the difference I suspect......... if that is so, then how can siblings differ so much, black sheep etc: If a table is infested with woodworm, no amount of polish will make it a good table, but the attendant chairs may well be sound. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all. |
the butler
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Message Posted: 26/12/2010 01:23 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 66 of 84 in Discussion |
| I have been reading this thread with interest and I can honestly say that I have not come across any of these problems in the east of Kyrenia. I like it in the TRNC because we do not encounter the young yob culture that you get in Spain and it's islands and in parts of the south of Cyprus. So what attracts the people described in the earlier posts, to the TRNC? Could it be the many bars and casinos there are in the West, whilst those enjoying a more peaceful location in the East are not exposed to them, or is it just luck we have not met these people yet? The butlers wife |
MsGarnet
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Message Posted: 26/12/2010 03:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 67 of 84 in Discussion |
| denizen - well, if one is dragged up, one has to find it within oneself to develop a moral compass, et cetera - if siblings are brought up and one or two go off the rails, that is their adult decision making processes going awry - an informed decision that they don't resist........either because their lives become adversarial or some form of addiction takes hold - a myriad of reasons come into play...... |
Groucho
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Message Posted: 26/12/2010 07:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 68 of 84 in Discussion |
| Well well you lot love being judgemental don't you just... Such Christmassy thoughts too. Very Sermon on the Mount - not! "The less well off are scum, not of value... " I don't remember that being one of the Beatitudes. |
HildySmith
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Message Posted: 26/12/2010 13:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 69 of 84 in Discussion |
| it is an international thing - not a British thing. I was at the border last week waiting in a queue to get my passport stampled. 2 queues had formed so I stayed in the one queue even though the other one was moving faster. Just as I was about to hand over our passports a TC or ?? dived across the gap and threw his papers at the officer. I lost my temper (which I don't usually do) and threw down my passports and said loudly 'Gee thanks - don't mind me!!!' the guy then stated that he had been in the queue before me - I informed him that he had NOT!! He then asked what was wrong with me and I said - I do not like bad manners - he did not reply but walked away with his head down. |
martinD41
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Message Posted: 26/12/2010 13:45 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 70 of 84 in Discussion |
| I have noticed that the word"PLEASE" has all but disappeared in the English language of late.......... |
Pippie
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Message Posted: 27/12/2010 19:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 71 of 84 in Discussion |
| One thing that really winds me up lately is the lack of courtesy on the roads when driving. This relates to any and all nationalities and cultures I suspect. What happened to just putting a hand up or a little flash of the headlights to say thanks when someone gives way to let you out? Or, what about more people giving way to an oncoming vehicle on a narrow road? So many people seem to be in a rush all the time and not willing to take a second to exercise a bit of patience which might actually result in getting to your destination quicker! I'm getting used to it now but tonight I had an encounter with a German lady who refused to share in the shifting her car so that we could both pass. I was half way down the road when she appeared so I moved off the road with half of the car still on the road & waited for her to drive around me. But she just stopped and sat there and insisted I reversed all the way back & off the road completely for her! Some people have no sense. |
rowlo
Joined: 12/10/2008 Posts: 4796
Message Posted: 27/12/2010 20:06 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 72 of 84 in Discussion |
| the hooray henrys have arrived most of them wouldnt give you a nod in the dessert , they look down theyre beaks at the thought of mere riff raff buying next door to them lmfao. |
sienna
Joined: 09/01/2009 Posts: 1627
Message Posted: 27/12/2010 20:25 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 73 of 84 in Discussion |
| message 69 with you there I lost the plot at the booth at Ercan airport getting cigarettes for someone else !! waited ages in the queue along come a TC pushes in and the guy starts serving him - so I challenge it and as usual got the shrug of shoulders so went to the other kiosk - so rude can you imgine if as 'Brits'we do it to them out will come the race card grrrrr All countries have got them trust me ! |
suehowlittle
Joined: 31/10/2010 Posts: 1202
Message Posted: 28/12/2010 14:49 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 74 of 84 in Discussion |
| Manners maketh man. Good manners are free Good manners are remembered Good manners show our respect for our fellow humans and civility, even in a conflicting situation is not difficult and will always give you the upper hand. My little sermon for today. Seriously though, it is a modern day problem not a British one, all nationalities are capable of lovely manners or loutish, ill-mannered behaviour. I always smile at them and be even more charming and civil. It is most disarming because they assume that you will come to their level. |
Denny
Joined: 09/12/2010 Posts: 261
Message Posted: 28/12/2010 15:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 75 of 84 in Discussion |
| suehowlittle, You have adopted the Martin Luther King approach! Well done. |
Denny
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Message Posted: 28/12/2010 15:06 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 76 of 84 in Discussion |
| rowlo, I think Chelsey Village is safe from any Hooray Henries! |
force9
Joined: 01/08/2010 Posts: 97
Message Posted: 29/12/2010 01:26 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 77 of 84 in Discussion |
| I personally have found that rudeness and good manners reflect the individual not the country of origin or culture Fortunately I have also found that good manners are more prominent than any rudeness I have encountered. |
Pipie
Joined: 05/01/2008 Posts: 5499
Message Posted: 10/01/2011 01:52 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 78 of 84 in Discussion |
| I cringe and make a quick exit if I come in contact with any type of rudeness, swearing or bad behaviour !! |
hollylou
Joined: 05/01/2011 Posts: 163
Message Posted: 10/01/2011 07:48 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 79 of 84 in Discussion |
| i hate the brits that evade the rules here and think they are above the turk cyps they best remember they are the foriener here not them it really gets me if you want to see some of these go to residentcy in and outs being checked i was polite enough to let people know read the comments make your own mind up and they have there name reg on forum how very silly wish this type would just go home to what we left to come here for any one agree? |
Groucho
Joined: 26/04/2008 Posts: 7993
Message Posted: 10/01/2011 07:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 80 of 84 in Discussion |
| I think we should all agree that that it's not just expats as Brits in Britain can be equally as rude, bigoted and pushy as anyone here... Our Royal family and MP's set a fine example. |
Denny
Joined: 09/12/2010 Posts: 261
Message Posted: 10/01/2011 22:21 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 81 of 84 in Discussion |
| Groucho said: "Our Royal family and MP's set a fine example." Hang on, I thought we were talking about Brits not Germans. |
Groucho
Joined: 26/04/2008 Posts: 7993
Message Posted: 13/01/2011 00:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 82 of 84 in Discussion |
| Be fair a German and a Dane/Greek... and he's the one with the worst reputation for bigotry and rudeness... |
Bradus
Joined: 25/02/2007 Posts: 2641
Message Posted: 13/01/2011 03:29 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 83 of 84 in Discussion |
| What a negative image some portray of the typical British person. Yet are we all guilty of the behaviour described on this thread and based simply on our birth place? I think not! Stereotyping at it's best. You will find ill mannered people from all walks of life and all Nations. Force 9 is spot on. |
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