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alexjones


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25/12/2010 23:47

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Who here that decides to read this actually believes that global warming and man made climate change are actually happening?



alexjones


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26/12/2010 00:08

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Now here is some proof to you now if you care to read,



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6679082/Climate-change-this-is-the-worst-scientific-scandal-of-our-generation.html



You may search and look deeper into this subject if you wish, To find more evidence that the global warming concept is a scam.



Then I would ask you to think what could be gained by anyone for doing this pointless expensive staged false reporting,



With that question in mind, Now think what the carbon taxes are in aid of,



Now who receives these carbon taxes?



Who is behind the group that receive this money?



Bilderberg,



Who is behind the European government?



Who is openly pushing for a New World Order?



Who is openly pushing for a one world government?



The symbol for New world order is already on your UK driving licence, The hologram, the capped pyramid.



The new world order is being pushed as the only way out of the economic crisis.



who made the crisis?



letty


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Message Posted:
26/12/2010 00:47

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SO WHAT?



whats the difference anyway, one government another government, big government , small government,



it makes no difference, You just have nothing better to worry about, go and get a life!!!!!



letty


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Message Posted:
26/12/2010 02:47

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Shut you up didnt it,



Denny


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Message Posted:
26/12/2010 20:55

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Global warming is with us.



alexjones


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Message Posted:
26/12/2010 20:56

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I'm afraid that it is unfortunately people with your mentality that are the reason for the current state of affairs,

You don't care what is happening to your country (assuming that you are a Brit) (Though judging by your attitude you are)



The government has given most of its democratic law making rights to Europe,



Europe make the laws, and make the taxes,

We just do as we are told (we have no choice) and pay the money,

Did you know that it costs the UK 4 billion pounds a year to be a member of Europe, That was COSTS!



We are paying for a democracy and rights to be taken away,

we are paying for our country to be flooded with immigrants,



alexjones


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Message Posted:
26/12/2010 21:16

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Are you mad,

It has been uncovered as a SCAM to get money from EVERYONE in the form of a carbon tax.



GLOBAL WARMING IS WITH US,

sorry

You are a victim of the government controlled main stream media,



If you see that your car is a certain colour, Why would you believe that it was a different colour if the BBC news said it was,

YOU WOULDNT

so why when you see that research has been falsified,

Other research by credible scientists has been discredited,

AND TO CAP IT OFF ITS NOT GETTING WARMER,

NOT GETTING WARMER

ITS GETTING COLDER

COLDER

ARE YOU LISTENING

CAN YOU NOT SEE THE WEATHER REPORTS

DO YOU NEVER GO TO ENGLAND

its a hoax

its been proven to be a hoax

but because your government told you its true and you must pay,

You are believing and paying

YOU ARE A SHEEP,

When more that 90% of the people on earth actually see whats happening, Then you will believe

Because at that time it will be normal to believe,



Denny


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Message Posted:
26/12/2010 23:21

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Who are the sheep? Free-thinking sceptics who look at all the evidence? Or paranoid, anti-European, right-wing followers of the Daily Telegraph (and also I'd guess UKIP and the barmier fringes of the Tories, although only BNP among trusted friends and only then after a few Efes)?



alexjones


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Message Posted:
26/12/2010 23:55

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No, What I'm trying to say is that for a start, To be able to get your head around what is happening, You will be in a better position than most, being a free thinking sceptic,

So look at how it works,

Ask the questions,

Who controls the BBC for instance, Who controls the mainstream media,

Just as a slight example the Building 7 collapse of September 11 was broadcast and reported on the BBC news 20 minutes before it actually happened,

Despite that I dare say that you already know that the news is controlled and fed by the people in power,

So now who told you about global warming, (THE MEDIA)

Who told the media to tell you,

The people in power,

Now we think the world is in danger,

So Carbon tax is a good thing, we must pay it,

Because we BELIEVE IN MAN MADE CLIMATE CHANGE,

when we discover that the scientists who discovered it, (and work for the government) actually made it up .

We don't believe it, Because its not on the BBC.



alexjones


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Message Posted:
27/12/2010 00:04

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CONT....

Then the genuine highly respected scientists, Whose data actually show that man made global warming is NOT REAL, They are discredited.



And the most painful thing to watch here is the fact that its GENUINELY getting COLDER , everyone with half a brain over the age of 10 can see its getting colder, and yet due to the fact that the media has told you its getting warmed, You completely disregard what you are seeing with your own eyes to believe them, Its absolute madness,

This is pretty much the definition of brainwashing!

Do you see what I mean,



Another example of this in a different context is CHARLIE SHEEN,

went on the TV in America, He declared his belief, That 911 was an inside job, carried out by the US government and its associates as a pretext to go to IRAQ,

Then they completely discredit him in the media and drag his name through the mud,



See what I'm saying,

They make you believe what they want you to believe,



Denny


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Message Posted:
27/12/2010 00:39

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The fact that it's getting colder tells you all you need to know. It's called climate change.



alexjones


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All you need to know is that they have years and years of false research telling you that its getting warmer,

That's all you need to know,



Its not getting warmer is it,



so do you not think that they may be telling porky pies,



Look at it for a moment, Just imagine you have never heard of it before

Right then

Now suppose that you have been in UK for the past 10 years,



You have seen with your own eyes, felt with your own skin, That its getting genuinely colder over all,



Now a man comes to you and shows you a piece of paper that he has been writing on,

This piece of paper has a day by day list of temperatures and its accompanied by a graph,

the Hockey stick graph,

Showing the temperature slowly but surely rising,



Hes not saying this may happen,

HE IS SAYING THAT IT ALREADY DID HAPPEN,

But you know its wrong,



So why believe him?



letty


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Message Posted:
27/12/2010 01:36

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WHO CARES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NO ONE CARES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



letty


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27/12/2010 01:40

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I got 3 stars next to my name , You only got 1, so Im right and your wrong,

Global warming is happening, Its all over the news,

If you dont believe it your stupid,

anyone that takes any notice of you is stupid

anyone that listens to you is stupid

so go and be stupid somewhere else,



bigOz


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Message Posted:
27/12/2010 02:34

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And I guess the melting and shrinking of the ice caps at the poles over the past decade to an extent where its threatening the wildlife and thew whole Gulf Stream that shapes the weather pattern in North Atlantic, is simply a figment of the scientists' & nature watchers' imagination!

alexjones, Just because you do not like graphs - is not an excuse to deny the reality! I certainly do not think you will convince anyone with your argument - you may stand up and make speech about it at the Hyde Park speaker's corner, but I promise you will not get a standing ovation...



Magbs


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Message Posted:
27/12/2010 08:22

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alexjones,



'Another example of this in a different context' is AIDS, which is a man-made disease and



water fluoridation is part of the New World Order plot and



India and/or the US are responsible for the Pakistan floods and



Apollo 11 Moon landings were faked by NASA and



the Early Middle Ages (614–911 AD) never occurred etc etc...



deputydawg


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Message Posted:
27/12/2010 10:33

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No idea whether or not global warming is a fact or not but in my view resources are being depleted at an alarming rate and environmental polution abounds. Clearly monies raised by carbon taxes are not ring fenced and being spent on solutions any more than pension fund pots are properly secured for those who contributed over a working lifetime. Tis like being in a barrel of dung up to the neck whilst turds are being thrown ..... should I duck or turn my back ? Open the window and "influ enza". Open the door and "in come tax" We are all doomed, doomed I tell yea, but happy New Year to you all (soon) !!



girne 29


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Message Posted:
27/12/2010 14:16

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Denny message 8



Spot on. I might suggest though that the atitudes expressed here are more Daily Mail than Daily Telegragh.

Only this lot could turn a question about global warming into a right wing tirade about the EU ,immigrants( of course they really mean non white) tho thankfully we didnt get the jobless scroungers or unmarried mothers sluts bit. Though why it should bother some, especially those who are immigrants in TRNC themselves ,about what effect immigration or EU or anyone else is having in a country ,UK and its people that they hold in contempt,is beyond me.



The reason that nobody bothers about the chances of global warming or not, is that its not them that will suffer,unless it affects the cost of lemons for their G and T's. Are they going to come back from the dead and apoligise to my grandchildren if they have it wrong.



Oh and by the way , global warming does cause temperatures to drop as well as rise ,its to do with ocean currents.



girne 29


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Message Posted:
27/12/2010 14:23

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PS,no global warming ---tell that to the polar bears! They know the ice cap melting at an alarming rate causing them to starve, is not propoganda. Then again they dont have the Mail or telegragh readers to inform them otherwise.



alexjones


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Message Posted:
27/12/2010 15:25

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Now then lets see,

Messages 13 and 14 You have not mentioned anything constructive and are not worth responding to.



Message 15, I'm not just wildly throwing about uninformed opinions, refer to this for credible information,



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP2UXvZvdjc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlGIep4jiRw&feature=related



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5SRgwg1nLo



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKOSiYWwcio&feature=related



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfHW7KR33IQ&feature=related



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP2UXvZvdjc



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR5_jT9ARJg&feature=related



Climate change is a hoax, The polar Ice caps are not disappearing, They are getting bigger.



Surprise surprise, It feels colder too, what a coincidence.



alexjones


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Message Posted:
27/12/2010 15:34

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Messages 18 and 19, Please if you are interested and not just passing the time of day, Look at the links in message 17, as evidence that the ice caps are NOT shrinking at all,

Secondly I don't read any news papers thank you,

Also I would like to point out that you are implying with your message that I'm racist, That is 100% not true,

What I believe is this,

If your country has not got enough jobs to support its own population, Why would you open your borders to foreigners to let them in to work,

This goes hand in hand with the statement that you put in my mouth about Jobless scroungers, Now would you not think that by keeping most of the foreigners out, away from our jobs, That you would be giving local citizens more of a chance of finding work,

I do think that the benefit system is a fantastic tool of the modern age, But it must not be abused,

When there are jobs for everyone, there will be very few unemployed, so the benefits bill would go down,



Quarmby


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Message Posted:
27/12/2010 15:35

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"It feels colder"



Ever thought you might be getting older?



alexjones


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Message Posted:
27/12/2010 15:41

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On your next point, that I am immigrant in this country, Yes true, BUT the immigrants in this country are chosen by the Turkish government, chosen based on how much money you have, So being an immigrant in this country is benefiting the country, Unlike the immigration in England for the most part,



Just a small other thing as well, Out of manners, Out of not wanting to appear ignorant and rude to the locals in Cyprus, I spent 1 year before I came hear learning Turkish, To the point that I could have a well mannered factual conversation with a Turkish person in his / her own country,



Are you that well mannered, Did you take the time to learn, Or did you do the same as every other ex pat and just decide that everyone else should learn your language,



Can you see the small point Im making here, You are implying that Im misinformed and ignorant,

Yet that is as far from the truth as you could ever get,



Marvo


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Message Posted:
27/12/2010 18:55

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I have tried to adopt an open mind regarding the original post.



The total amount of CO2 gasses in the atmosphere is less than 0.04%. Therefor a small increase in this minuscule amount should not bring and end to life as we know it.



The UK contributes less than 2% of all the CO2 gasses created in the world, therefor any measures the UK takes to limit these gasses is insignificant in comparison to the USA and China. So the UK paying a 'carbon tax' is a complete waste of time and money.



Historically, the planet has gone through a heating and cooling cycles over it's life time and nothing we do can stop this. It is only our generation that has the opportunity to measure it.



The developing nations see what the western world has and they want the same standard of living.



The polar ice caps have melted before and the polar bears still survived it, so stop worrying about them.



The sea levels will rise and millions will be made homeless and no amount of 'carbon tax' will stop



alexjones


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Message Posted:
27/12/2010 19:17

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That's the thing with it,



It happens anyway,

People are making studies of it, Completely falsifying the findings,

Then they are claiming themselves as an authority over the world,

With right on their side, AND making vast amounts of money over it,

Not to mention directing the UK towards expensive renewable energy,

The UK has to get out of Europe,

It needs to get away from the dictatorship style control that its falling under,

It needs the people to make it happen,

Yet they wont,

Because they cant / won`t see it,



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKOSiYWwcio&feature=related



CNN NEWS,



rowlo



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Message Posted:
27/12/2010 19:58

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its minus 13 here in bathgate , i wish this global warming would hurry up , no buckets emptied for 4 weeks , no grit on the roads in our estate so cant get out , and the worst of all every footie game was postponed lmao now im no whinger but come on you gotta have the footie on



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