how would my daughter be effected?

charb


Joined: 17/03/2009
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Message Posted:
27/12/2010 10:07

My daughter is 3.5 years old and she is now in a kindergarten where both English and Turkish are spoken. Her mother tongue is Turkish. It's her first year at the kindergarten. I hope she will learn some English by summer.

What I wonder is; how would she be effected if we were to move to some country where Turkish is not a medium of communication? She probably will go to a kindergarten where the teachers (and probably other children) will talk in English to her. Will she feel upset if she can not communicate with her friends and/or her teachers? Or do you think she can cope with the new environment? Thanks..

vonny


Joined: 25/06/2009
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Message Posted:
27/12/2010 10:17

hi charb, your daughter is young,you will be amazed how quickly she will adapt,It is the best time to take her,if you wait till shes older then she will find it harder, good luck

charb


Joined: 17/03/2009
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Message Posted:
27/12/2010 10:23

thanks for your reply, yonny..

Harriet


Joined: 22/12/2010
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Message Posted:
27/12/2010 10:24

"Effect" is the noun. "To affect" or "to be affected" is the verb. Sorry, but I used to be a teacher :-(

thatman


Joined: 23/12/2010
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Message Posted:
27/12/2010 10:36

Sorry, but I used to be a teacher



and now I am a...........................

tracer


Joined: 02/06/2010
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Message Posted:
27/12/2010 11:25

now...........................retired!

spider


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Message Posted:
27/12/2010 11:39

Hi just thinking do you not use English at home with her ? and If you maybe are looking at going to live in another country maybe you all could have all have home tuition before you leave and one you are settled.As then you see it would be a family thing )





Spider,X

girne


Joined: 14/01/2009
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Message Posted:
27/12/2010 11:39

I am also of Turkish origeon from London My 4 year old son has been going to Kindergarden for 3 years now. There they speak to him all in Turkish but when he gets home we speak to him in English. He understands both languages and responds in both. He may some times not know the word in English so he says it in Turkish and carrys on his conversation in English. When ever l speak to him at home about every day items l will say them in English and then Turkish. example we are reading abook he will look at the picture and tell me what he sees, a dog then he will automaically tell me turkish word. Its a lot easier for them to learn bot as long as the parents keep it up.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
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Message Posted:
27/12/2010 11:51

I had the same expirience with my first doughter in UK.Thought her turkish from born thinking she'd learn english when she stars school,but at the age of 2.5 when she started mixing with other kids we thought she'd struggle.Within 6 months she was fluent in english as well.



With above expirience thought the second 1 english first but now her turkish is not as good as her sisters.



Catch 22 situation realy.

charb


Joined: 17/03/2009
Posts: 188

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 11:26

thanks for all the comments.



Msg 4: You know, I actually looked at the dictionary before writing the sentence with "effect" in it. I was confused at the moment, but now I know. Thanks... and I understand the urge to correct, because I am a teacher myself, too.

Harriet


Joined: 22/12/2010
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Message Posted:
29/12/2010 12:25

Charb wrote "I understand the urge to correct, because I am a teacher myself"



Thanks for that Charb - you're a good sport



And I'm sure it will work out for your daughter

bigOz


Joined: 29/09/2010
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Message Posted:
29/12/2010 12:34

Harriet - me a teacher too!

Please note that both effect and affect CAN be used as noun and verb under some circumstances. For example:

"effect" can be a verb meaning "to bring about," "to cause," or "to achieve": He effected his escape with knotted bedsheets.

"Affect" can be a noun meaning "display of emotion": The killer displayed no affect when shown photos of his victims. This is a term mostly used by psychologists - hence, where the word "affectionate" originates from.

greenman


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Message Posted:
29/12/2010 13:13

Reminds me of when my 4 year old daughter went to a Spanish school. The days before she started we had someone teaching her some basic Spanish. After her first day my daughter came home and said she liked school and everyone was learning Spanish!!

She also proudly told us that she knew the Spanish for belly button. Intrigued we asked what it was to which she replied 'Filii' - it was a Catholic school!!!

AllyTT


Joined: 13/09/2008
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Message Posted:
29/12/2010 14:00

I think the earlier you start with both languages the better, my brother learnt English at home as a mother tongue and went to kindergarden at age 2 where he learnt Turkish. I didn't go to kindergarden and learnt Turkish when I started school at age 5-6. I learnt the language quickly (fluent within 3 months), however I am unable to *think* in Turkish and every conversation I have in Turkish is translated in my mind. My brother can think in both languages, and his ability to express himself in Turkish will always be better than mine because of it. If you are considering moving to a country where your daughter will be forced to communicate in English then the sooner you do it the easier it will be for her.

Harriet


Joined: 22/12/2010
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Message Posted:
29/12/2010 14:44

Re ; msg 12



Hi Big Oz - Probably more than 99% of the time we use "effect" as the noun and "affect" as the verb ... so when it comes to mastering our language I felt it more appropriate for those concerned to walk before they can run.



All the same, thank you for your input

berilela


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Message Posted:
29/12/2010 16:39

my daughter is half english half turkish her dad talks in turkish to her and she attends a local turkish school i was worried at 1st but within 3 mths wow what a differance speaks fluent in both now ,best thing i ever done ,your daughter will adapt very well good luck

charb


Joined: 17/03/2009
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Message Posted:
02/01/2011 21:32

thanks for all the comments, they all support my decision. In Turkish, we have a saying, that can be translated as (after doing something), "now all we need is three horse shoes and a horse!", meaning that what is done is just worth of a horse shoe, as in me, making my decision to move. Now I need to find a job, settle the dates to move, tell this decision to the rest of the family, stand against the reactions, resign from my current work on time, pack up, and go. :s

oceana


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Message Posted:
02/01/2011 21:54

I would agree with msg 2... Now is the best time to take her. It will be much harder for her to adapt when she's older, both to the enviroment and the language itself!