Sir Elton John Has become a daddy

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
28/12/2010 23:52

Elton and his partner are now proud parents , a son born Christmas day. A surrogate arrangement. No details allowed Now who is the dad xxxxx

loulouis


Joined: 13/12/2009
Posts: 234

Message Posted:
28/12/2010 23:54

Disgusting !!!!!!!

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
28/12/2010 23:54

Sir Elton John and his civil partner David Furnish have announced they are proud parents to a healthy baby boy.

Zachary Jackson Levon Furnish-John weighed 7lb 15oz and was 22 inches long at birth.

The couple have not said which of them is the biological father of the baby, who was born via a surrogate mother in California on Christmas Day.



'We are overwhelmed with happiness and joy at this very special moment,' Sir Elton and Furnish said in a joint statement.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1342092/Elton-John-David-Furnish-welcome-son-Zachary-help-surrogate-mother.html#ixzz19Qk9KIp1

notthereyet


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 113

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 00:01

shouldnt be allowed designer accessory of the worst kind.

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 00:08

hope they wont be allowed to access certain parts ? its sick

Blackbird



Joined: 11/08/2009
Posts: 1432

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 00:11

At least he won't want for much???

deputydawg


Joined: 30/03/2010
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 00:45

Oh how times have changed. In the 1960s my sister who was a SRN and midwife, married to a Church Pastor, having witnessed hundreds of times the joy of parenthood for others, but carried the anguish of being unable to conceive herself, was refused adopting a child on the grounds that her career left insuffient opportunity to care for a child. On emigration to Australia accompanying her husband to run a Church Mission in the outback my sister toured the outback in a caravan administering medication and innoculations etc to children who would otherwise have had to go without. The Australian authorities approved adoption without hesitation. Her husband died suddenly at the age of 39 and just 3 weeks after the adoption. My adoptive nephew is now happily married for many years with 3 wonderful children and I of course believe that they have a wonderful grandmother. I hope the child in the care of these 2 male prima donnas fares equally well.

mrjim



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 78

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 01:25

I think its absolutley disgusting do you remember the underage rent boys scandal with his then manager reid they pumped so much cocaine into them as well and it was money that got him of that its P.C gone mad.

Tompepper


Joined: 28/12/2010
Posts: 38

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 07:16

poor kid will not know if it is a him her or a shim vile disguting mamn+ man = sodomy read your bible.



Leviticus 18:22 - "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable."



clear message there !

Tompepper


Joined: 28/12/2010
Posts: 38

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 07:27

Romans 1:26-27 (New International Version, ©2010)



26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another.>> Men committed shameful acts with other men, <<



>>>and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. <<<

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 08:39

One more step toward legal paedophilia............

philnles


Joined: 11/08/2008
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 09:17

He should have waited til January, could have got 50% off in the sales!

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 09:32

There should be a world-wide ban on 'turd denting' - YUK!!!

mikelapta



Joined: 20/11/2008
Posts: 2186

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 09:49

And Sir Elton is 63 !!!!! I agree it is disgusting,and should not be allowed

mersin10



Joined: 05/11/2008
Posts: 94

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 09:58

its obvious, sombodys had it in for them.

philnles


Joined: 11/08/2008
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 10:01

How is that kid EVER going to have a normal balanced life. It's just not right. Wonder what my Grandad would say if he was still here.

LaptaGeezer


Joined: 01/06/2010
Posts: 407

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 10:32

Nice to see some 'normal' responses to this subject. It seems almost to be celebrated over here in the UK; I must say that I am with the majority of replies in this thread.

JohhnyLee


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 2495

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 10:48

Puts a whole new meaning on one of his songs.



Don't Let The Son Go Down on Me !

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 10:48

At least this child will have a good home, be cared for by the best of nannies, go to the best schools. Would you rather it be left with someone who didn't care?



Whether we like it or not times have changed and this is the way of the world. Live and let live good luck to them.



Chris

philnles


Joined: 11/08/2008
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 10:55

A good home with 2 daddies, the best of nannies, yes sounds like a good balanced life. I thought it was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. I am not homophobic but strongly believe in both sex parents and who said the mother did not care?

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 10:59

Many years ago a work colleague's wife had a baby, sadly 2 weeks later the mother died and the father had to bring up the child on his own. So according to many of you on this thread, you appear to condemn men bringing a child up on their own. You sad lot.

Oh and please stop quoting from a man made story book.

kiwikid


Joined: 18/08/2008
Posts: 496

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 11:00

I am shocked at some of the replies on here, what a bunch you are! So straight men aren't ever paedophiles children born in to "normal" families always have perfect childhoods???

One of them IS the father and has every right to bring his child up. Good luck to them both, as Chris said he will have the best of everything, and by the sounds of it TWO parents who love him, live together and are in a happy relationship. Which is more then a lot of kids have.

Merry Christmas and Good will to all men!

xxxx

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 11:02

A lot of double standards in the world so what if a mother dies and then the father brings up the child with help from a best mate. Would you object then? A home with a loving parent no matter the sex is essential for any child in my opinion.



philnles I did not say that the mother didn't or does not care, I said would you rather a child was left with someone who doesn't care, whether it is a mother, father or anyone. My point was that this child will be loved and well cared for and a start in life that so many will never know.



Chris

Tompepper


Joined: 28/12/2010
Posts: 38

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 11:04

lets hope the do not bring him up to enjoy donkey rides.............



http://www.kibrisgazetesi.com/popup.php/cat/2/news/108734/PageName/Ic_Haberler

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 11:06

Tompepper,



Not funny!



Chris

Tompepper


Joined: 28/12/2010
Posts: 38

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 11:11

so sorry chris





but it beggers belief that some one can compare ''Many years ago a work colleague's wife had a baby, sadly 2 weeks later the mother died and the father had to bring up the child on his own''



to 2 sodomites one of whom is a suspected pedophile bringing up a child.



there is no comparison there is no room for sodomites in Christianity Islam or any constructive way of life .

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 11:25

Will the child be sent to a school only for same sex parents, or will the child have to "RUN the Gauntlet" of torment and cruelty that young children are so very good at??

jamestalbot


Joined: 20/12/2009
Posts: 958

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 11:33

I am with Chris (nurseawful) and kiwikid on this.



Tompepper I agree again with Chris not funny, you are obviously Homophobic and please stop quoting as message 21 says (a man made story book).



Johnylee not funny





A happy New Year to all

LaptaGeezer


Joined: 01/06/2010
Posts: 407

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 11:40

I don't see why when anyone chooses to voice an opinion against homosexuality that they are labelled as 'homophobic'! Well, in truth I do... it is a modern ploy to label people that 'dare' to speak out on a subject that they do not agree with, in an attempt to shut them up. Whatever happened to freedom of speech.

I may not agree with the complete set of answers in this thread but to start throwing 'homophobic' around is very churlish. The term means that someone has a fear of homosexuals... that is far from just not agreeing with it.

Tompepper


Joined: 28/12/2010
Posts: 38

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 11:41

Homophobic indeed and proud of it queers get back in your closet the rest of civilised society do not want to know. we do not want 2 bloke snogging when we turn the tv on .



we are sick of hearing about gay rights .



What about the rights of the rest of us.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 12:15

So which one is the father of the Child ?



Bless Elton he said last night he was giving up writing to concentrate on being a good Husband!!



Sick in the head the pair of them.



Nice haircut though.

Denny


Joined: 09/12/2010
Posts: 261

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 12:31

I'd like to know how many of the bigoted, prejudiced homophobes are failed parents who cheated on their partners, drank, smoked and swore in front of their children before abandoning their families and making a broken home. Not to mention not being averse to a bid of *rse banditry themselves, hence the guilt-ridden hysterics. More than a few, I'd wager!

jamestalbot


Joined: 20/12/2009
Posts: 958

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 12:41

I was always brought up by my parents to treat everyone with respect, and to respect people for who they are not what they are. I have worked in the Nursing and Social Work field for years, and people are treated equally irrespective of race, culture, age, sexuality, or religion.

LaptaGeezer


Joined: 01/06/2010
Posts: 407

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 12:44

Denny,



Being Devil's Advocate here but why does not agreeing with it make anyone "..bigoted, prejudiced etc."?



It doesn't does it.. it simply shows the extent of opinion on a subject that society has only recently started to accept due to the continual 'normalisation' of it on the television for example. You can't watch a soap nowadays without it having to have a gay storyline... and for the majority of people that is simply not the way that everyday life is. It is put onto the tv at times when youngsters watch so that it becomes 'the norm'. And I must say that it has been a very clever method and it clearly has worked, but for most people that are of a certain age... it still is outside of their accepted standards. That is just the way it is.

Tompepper


Joined: 28/12/2010
Posts: 38

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 12:47

Rom. 1:26-27



Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.



OK SO YOU CHOOSE TO IGNORE THAT THEN WHY NOT IGNORE



thou shalt not kil.l as well ??

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 13:02

Being homosexual does not mean paedophile, so many people make this assumption and it is stupid.

This child may not grow up in a * normal family unit* but will be loved and cared for, he will never want for anything and as for running the gauntlet at school I doubt that he will attend the local comprehensive !

So Elton is 63, there are many children being brought up by mothers who are little more than children themselves,is that a better option.

Tompepper


Joined: 28/12/2010
Posts: 38

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 13:08

Carol who will teach him the moral values of the world who will instruct him in the difficult decisions in life? as it is clear both parents can not say no to there own perverse inclinations.

billyboy1


Joined: 01/06/2009
Posts: 590

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 13:13

Sir Elton John has said he is giving up songwriting, so will have more time with the child.....

I dont believe that either him or his partner took this decision lightly to have a surrogate, as they had already tried to adopt in an eastern european country when they fell in love with a young child, they were refused, and it was not for being Gay/homosexual or what ever label you want to put on it.

That child will have the best of everything possible in this world (which is a darn sight more than others get), he will also be loved and have 2 loving parents, which again is more than some get.

I say live and let live, how many skeletons do people have in there own cupboards and keep the door firmly locked??????

I have 2 relations that are in same sex relationships, one female and one male, in fact my male relation has just yesterday proposed to his long standing partner and shall be having a civil ceremony next year.....good luck to them and good luck to Sir Elton , David and their son

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 13:35

Being homosexual does not mean paedophile, so many people make this assumption and it is stupid.

This child may not grow up in a * normal family unit* but will be loved and cared for, he will never want for anything and as for running the gauntlet at school I doubt that he will attend the local comprehensive !

So Elton is 63, there are many children being brought up by mothers who are little more than children themselves,is that a better option.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 13:36

oops, don't know how that happened.

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 14:10

Tompepper msg 35



Perhaps you would advocate putting the child in the loving protection of the church. Now lets see which religion would be best for it. I'll ring the pope and ask his advice.

hydrokleen


Joined: 20/06/2009
Posts: 16

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 14:20

Who's the mama and who's the papa and which one wears the trousers in the house ?

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 14:20

msg36" I doubt he will attend the local comprehensive",





Probably not ,,obviously you have not read " Tom Brown's School Days"

LaptaGeezer


Joined: 01/06/2010
Posts: 407

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 14:28

On a light hearted note, as this one is getting a little serious... Perhaps they should have called him



Ben Dover



Phil McCavity



Phil McCrackin



Elton FitzDavid



David FitzElton



or many others that I can't think of at the moment.

dreamer


Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 189

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 14:34

I saw daddy kissing santaclause underneath the Christmas tree last night,

I guess we have to move with the times ?

LaptaGeezer


Joined: 01/06/2010
Posts: 407

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 14:37

Thing is Dreamer.... exactly who is it that is dictating the times that we are all supposed to move with?



Seems that we are all supposed to go along with the minority now, on all kinds of subjects not just this one... 'They' whoever they are... are trying to create an ideal world where everyone gets along with each other, but as we all know the real world is not like that. Long live freedom of speech, no-one should be in fear of voicing thier opinion, whichever side of the fence you happen to be on!

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 15:01

Wonder if Elton will have good friends George Michael and Boy George as god parents. Nuff said.



Elton and david will need nappies soon enough for themselves....

apc2010


Joined: 28/07/2010
Posts: 1689

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 15:05

Liz hurley rumoured to be god-mother ............... and Elton is godfather to one of D Beckhams ..???

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 15:17

load of nonsense sucking up to each other - pardon the pun ! its not normal

billyboy1


Joined: 01/06/2009
Posts: 590

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 15:36

message 44



does Phil McCavity still live in brighton?

JohhnyLee


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 2495

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 15:39

James Talbot, my thread was meant to be jovial, I don't have any problem with this topic. I am sure the child will be well cared for.



At the end of the day that is all that matters.



Happy New Year.

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 16:05

Homosexuality exists. It is only "Perverse" because it is not the norm. The teachings of any religion will not change peoples sexuality, just possibly supress them. I don't believe it will ever become compulsory so don't worry!



I am not sure that a same sex relationship is the best in which to bring up a child, I don't know why but certainly society's attitude towards it will make it harder. nevertheless I need to work hard to fight my prejudices on that one



There is no reason to suppose that the sexuality of the child will be effected by the parents, gays are born from straight parents after all.



The reason why homophobic views are classed as bigoted is that they are born of and portray irrrational positions. Simples!



Harold

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 17:36

Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation

Conclusion

The empirical research does not show that gay or bisexual men are any more likely than heterosexual men to molest children. This is not to argue that homosexual and bisexual men never molest children. But there is no scientific basis for asserting that they are more likely than heterosexual men to do so. And, as explained above, many child molesters cannot be characterized as having an adult sexual orientation at all; they are fixated on children.

For full report see http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/HTML/facts_molestation.html

Visitor


Joined: 19/08/2010
Posts: 492

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 18:30

I am really appalled at some of the outrageous and disgustingly offensive comments made here. things like



'There should be a world-wide ban on 'turd denting' - YUK!'



Forum administrators said in theirsticky posting 'Most of you are intelligent people and therefore you can see quite clearly the posters that are causing problems either by continually stirring things up or posting impolite remarks on a regular basis. We do sometimes miss these ourselves. '



I am not against people debating but why be hateful and offensive!



Unless these hateful remarks are removed I intend to forward these comments to Newspapers and interested groups in the UK so they can see how some expats in Cyprus think and to other interested groups i.e. Eltons Johns agent so that they can see how vile people can be.

Tompepper


Joined: 28/12/2010
Posts: 38

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 18:39

Visitor will you refute the word of God ?



"Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

"Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

"For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

"And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; >>men with men working that which is unseemly, <

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 18:54

Tompepper



When are you going to realise that garbage you keep quoting was written by man for the consumption of man/women.

LaptaGeezer


Joined: 01/06/2010
Posts: 407

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 18:55

Visitor...



I can agree that some should keep the terminology to a different level but to threaten to take it to the papers... c'mon! When people talk about this particular subject it will always go the way it has here.. you have the 'pro' and the 'anti'.. and people's views tend to be fairly set at one or other end of the scale.



Those that are anti get tagged with 'homophobe', 'bigot', 'prejudiced' etc.. which in their own way are very insulting, and then you get the pro versions.. as already seen on here and not necessary to repeat. Is either one any more wrong than the other! 2 wrongs don't make a right, but it is quite cleary 2 wrongs on here and not just one!



Various lifestyle choices come with 'built in' intolerance and homosexuality is just one of them, I am not saying that it is right, just that is how the world at large is.



Anyway... there are too many people involved in this debate now.. it has turned into a 'mass debate'!! )

deputydawg


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Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 19:06

Mass debate ? Strewth, is it a post from the Pope next ?

sienna


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Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 19:13

no you are 'behind the times' we have had that one deputydawg visitor get real mate I am sure they have read worse whats the saying if oyu stick your chin out !!!!

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 19:33

LaptaGeezer Msg 57: '....but it is quite clearly 2 wrongs on here and not just one!'



There's only ONE 'wrong' as far as morality is concerned - and to refute Visitor's Msg 54, it's also known 'Down Under', to be more explicit, as *'dung-punching' - YUK!



Conversely, one can be innocently guilty of *'that', or of 'turd denting', simply by stepping, or skidding, on 'something nasty' on the pavement, or in the park, or wherever!

Tompepper


Joined: 28/12/2010
Posts: 38

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 19:44

the Quran says Male homosexual activities are condemned as unnatural. 26:165-6



Male homosexuals commit abominations and act senselessly. 27:54-55

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 19:54

It was written that Icarus flew to the sun, I suppose you believe that as well?

Harold2555



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Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 20:42

Tompepper



The Bible and the Quran both forbid the eating of Pork as well, relevant perhaps in the historical context but as oudated now as the condemnation of homosexuality is.



I note tou are proud of bieng a homophobe. What exactly do you have an irrational fear of?

Harold

Tompepper


Joined: 28/12/2010
Posts: 38

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 20:53

Harold2555 are you posting in a personal capacity or as a mod ?

LaptaGeezer


Joined: 01/06/2010
Posts: 407

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 20:54

Harold...



Unfair usage of the literal meaning of 'Homophobe'... I don't think people are in fear of it, simply that they do not agree with it. There is room in this world for pro homosexual and anti homosexual, the two will never agree about the rights/wrongs of it and you could go on forever responding to yet another repost.



It is fair to say though that people that speak out against it are not homophobic, just not in agreement. Simples.

Denny


Joined: 09/12/2010
Posts: 261

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 21:36

TomPepper said:

"Romans 1:26-27 (New International Version, ©2010)

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones."



Sorry to be a pest, but I don't suppose you have a bit more on this?

bigOz


Joined: 29/09/2010
Posts: 1244

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 21:37

Should it not be DAME Elton John???

On a more serious note though; although I have nothing against people who may have been born the wrong gender and feel more comfortable with the same gender, I am not interested in media pushing it into my face at all times of the day and making me feel uncomfortable because as a normal male I find two men fornicating publicly rather disgusting. They can do as they please in their own space as consenting adults - and its none of my business? Whilst in England I was really fed up with the amount of exposure given to homosexdual activity on TV. Almost every soap opera had to have a homosexual couple, if not then a homosexual activity during some stage of the series. Most of it not late at night after when kids had gone to bed either!

The problem may well be because the new democracy in Europe have changed from "what the majority wants" to "minority rights". Under that umbrella the minority, have eventually received more rights then their share...

spider


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Message Posted:
29/12/2010 21:43

Denny mess 66..I think this person Tompepper has the Google bar to the ready Try it, )









Spider,X

AlsancakJack



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Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 21:55

Re message 64

'Harold2555 are you posting in a personal capacity or as a mod ?'



What a strange question to ask. What do you think Nige? I will give you a clue and it begins with 'p'

spider


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Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 21:58

HO,HO,HO, Happy New Year AJ, now you have me laughing, what are you like )







Spider,X

Tompepper


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Posts: 38

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 22:01

aj you have been on cyprus44info to much old chap



never mind the shark is looking out for you .



happy chlorine free swimming.

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 23:38

Tom



In case you didn't get AJ's clue, I am posting in a personal capacity like all the Mods I was a normal contributor first.







Bigoz



Aside from the voyeuristic factor I would not be happy to see a heterosexual couple fornicating in public either! Public decency and all that! The gender of the participants makes very little difference and hence it is frowned on and extremely rare whatever the combination.



And with respect to LaptaGeezer I suspect that fear does play at least a part. We fear that which is different and we don't understand. For a Straight guy that is attraction to another male. The attitude that some blokes have to gay women partially shows this. There is no problem not understanding, it's taking it from there to condemnation and predjudice that is the problem.







Harold





Harold

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
29/12/2010 23:56

jesus mary and josephm, i wish i never started this, now we have nige a bible basher xxxxxxxx

sienna


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Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
30/12/2010 00:44

message 71 'happy chlorine free swimming'



hello zerochlor how are you ))))

eager


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Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
30/12/2010 01:05

Has Elton morphed into Puff Daddy

Pugwash


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Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
30/12/2010 01:58

Hmm seems a shame to condemn them like some of the posts above, he is a good guy I have met him and although he may prefer men he is a good person. Seems there are many homophobic posts on here!

famagusta99


Joined: 23/11/2010
Posts: 68

Message Posted:
30/12/2010 02:48

I find some of the posts in this thread rather horrible.



My next-door neighbors here at home (up north) are 2 women...with baby twin-boys. I´m sure those boys will get a much better upbringing than some children I know of, who grew up with a mum and a dad who did their best to create WW3.



And isn´t that what it is all about? Giving the child/children a safe and happy upbringing? If the parent/parents can give the child/children that, then all other things are really quite irrelevant.



Good luck and best wishes to Sir Elton+partner!

Tompepper


Joined: 28/12/2010
Posts: 38

Message Posted:
30/12/2010 07:21

message 73 hic



you been watching the shark as well or drinking it with vodka ?

rickoshea


Joined: 29/12/2010
Posts: 8

Message Posted:
30/12/2010 07:59

If you regret starting this thread maybe you should request a moderator to apply a closure. I have read in a previous post that a member is considering drawing this to the attention of the press in order to highlight the blatant attack on a minority group. This is against the law, European law on human rights. I would be worried if I was a contributor to the unnecessary slander that has taken place. You are obviously unaware that the World Wide Web is the public domain and therefore any comments, accusations and remarks you make are done in public. To the person threatening to do it, do it. To the others I advise retract apologise or sweat.

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
30/12/2010 08:26

oh dear have you read all the other forums all over the world the lawyers are going to be busy bees, goodness me if everyone sued everyone for expressing their opinions then the courts would be full everyday of the year !!!



- just because he can afford it and it is his whim of the moment and has the money to do it doesn't make it right. IMO a child catapulted into the limelight lets hope the child will be happy at least he won't want for anything apart from a 'normal' up bringing - money cannot buy everything! but what ever the right or wrongs of it - forums and opinions wont change the facts - I am sure that he will not worry about what is said and they will just get on with their lives

jakki



Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 865

Message Posted:
30/12/2010 10:58

Personally I cannot stand Elton John - the fans that made him rich are not allowed anywhere near his presence. Last year I endured watching Elton John being interviewed about a young boy he fell in love with at an orphanage somewhere in Eastern Europe. He was clearly moved and distressed when he learned that he was unable to adopt that particular child. Is it any wonder then that he and his partner had to revert to paying for a surrogate mother.

hilda


Joined: 10/09/2009
Posts: 80

Message Posted:
30/12/2010 11:45

Message 19

You can only assume the child will go to a good home,money does not make a good and a happy home.

Message 33

I quite agree

Message 34

That does sum it up

I say live and let live,but i do find the behaviour of homosexuality strange,some have said to me in the past,if only people treated us as normal human beings,i asked him why he felt he needed to dress up like a Tiller girl and go around on a float,the answer was,its fun,we are making a point.

I know two pub landlords,one is gay,they both told me gays are the most promiscuous in their pubs.

As i say.live and let live,but i will never accept (i have told my gay freinds my feelings on this ) the fact that gays should have children,its nothing about whats written in the bible etc,that child will grow up very confused,and then there is Eltons age,my feelings on this are,two very,very selfish men who have had everything in life and this is their next toy

Ballyboffin


Joined: 25/08/2007
Posts: 903

Message Posted:
30/12/2010 12:11

I have read all that has been said on this and of course everyone has their own opinion, some extremely homophobe. As for Elton's age, who is condemning Rod Stewart for becoming a father again at pension age as well. Why shouldn't gay men have the same urge to procreate as anyone else?



I had a very wonderful Great-uncle who lived his life openly gay, not easy if you were born in 1912 and you could have been imprisoned for it. He loved all of his neices and nephews and became an honorary Grandfather to their children. We all adored him, he was so gentle, kind and always had time to read stories or play games with us. He never forgot any of our birthdays or Christmases and always had a half crown for us when we saw him. If he had been around now, I'm quite sure that he would have done the same thing as Elton, he loved children so much and would have been a great father.



As for the child, I am quite sure that it will be well loved and looked after and will accept the situation.

LaptaGeezer


Joined: 01/06/2010
Posts: 407

Message Posted:
30/12/2010 12:34

BallyBoffin



I think you have raised a very important aspect... to procreate. If homosexuality were to be a natural way of life then nature would have allowed for procreation to take place, but as we all know it cannot happen that way.



I have my own views on this subject and as I have already stated on here agreement will not be reached as the views are too polarised. Everyone has the right to choose their own lifestlye but it is when people try to justify it as a 'normal' way of life that people disagree. If everyone went 'gay' then the human race would die out... that speaks volumes by itself!

Denny


Joined: 09/12/2010
Posts: 261

Message Posted:
30/12/2010 12:58

rickoshea msg 79,



I wouldn't worry. The media would not take the slightest bit of notice at the bigoted and homophobic rantings. First off, the site is linked to north Cyprus which, to the majority of people out there, spells "dodgy". Secondly, the offending posts have been made largely by elderly, poorly-educated people who in the past would not have had access to computers and the internet.

Denny


Joined: 09/12/2010
Posts: 261

Message Posted:
30/12/2010 13:03

Harold said:

"Aside from the voyeuristic factor I would not be happy to see a heterosexual couple fornicating in public either!"



Indeed not. Tompepper's biblical references from Romans 1:26-27 are far more interesting:

"God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones."

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
30/12/2010 13:08

Denny,



How can you possibly comment on the level of education the people who contribute to this board have had? And if they have in their latter years taught themselves computing skills and how to access the web I say good for them.



I may not agree with all the posts but would not presume that someone was poorly educated!



Chris

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
30/12/2010 13:20

just because someone has a different view does not make them uneducated lol



ok somone is gay, ok somone is homophobic , so what you are entitled to be either but - whats right whats wrong again never the twain we are all entitled to our opinions - I personally don't agree with gay relationships homophobic maybe but as long as they don't flaunt in fron of me then fine.



I had to endure two lesbian woman rubbing suntan creame errotically in front of young children, now this maybe mens fantasies but its not mine !!



Man and man and woman and woman were not meant to be if so the world would not be = good job some of us are straight to carry the world forward



tin hat ready lol have a nice ALL

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
30/12/2010 13:21

What has age or education got to do with this thread, people are allowed to express their own opinion on this board irrespective of either.

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
30/12/2010 13:28

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1342690/Elton-John-David-Furnish-prepare-parenthood-high-tech-baby-chair.html



AS the comments on the bottom of this article say a child is a blessing not a trinket - sums it up really

dataman


Joined: 14/06/2010
Posts: 61

Message Posted:
30/12/2010 16:58

Lilli, that's what you get when you post an open ended statement. Lot's of idiotic nonsensical replies.



and what exactly have we learned ? ...... Zilch

hilda


Joined: 10/09/2009
Posts: 80

Message Posted:
30/12/2010 19:00

Ballyboffin

I do also feel this way about Stewart and the females having children in their late 50s,60s not sure on this one,i thought i read not long ago a lady in her 70s having a child.

Your great-uncle was indeed very lucky not to be put into prison if he was so open about being gay.

I am sure Elton will buy the toys,read the books,give a pound coin here and there,you say i am sure the child will accept the situation,the sad thing about all of this is the fact the child will have no choice but to try and understand the situation,what that child sees and hears from two gay men is not a normal family setting,my own view is that Elton is a very selfish man who just wants to leave a bit of him behind when he dies.

I wish you well

Hilda

pilot


Joined: 03/06/2009
Posts: 34

Message Posted:
30/12/2010 19:26

When on holiday with our two young children, two gays staying at our hotel spent most of the days around the pool holding hands and petting their choice of swimwear revealed that they were obviousley aroused, what people get up to behind closed doors is up to them, why do they have to announce their gender preferences to the world.

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
30/12/2010 19:29

pilot, so you are saying gay people are paedophiles?

Calvinhobbes


Joined: 25/04/2010
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
30/12/2010 23:52

Refreshing to see that members are free to state their views. In the UK we are not allowed to state anything in relation to gays other than lavish praise for their choice of lifestyle. It is promoted in schools, and 'normalised' by the government in every possible way. If you belive that it is wrong, then I'm afraid, we no longer are allowed to publicly say so. You can criticise the Bible, make jokes about God and just about everything else...but say a word against the Gay movement and you will be described as a homophobic etc.



The newspapers are full of Eltons 'happy' (disgusting) news, but you will find very few comments in UK media which question the whole business. Despite the usual comments re litigation etc. it is good to see that the majority have not been cowed into silence as we are in the UK. Enjoy your freedom of speech out there - we lost it a long time ago in Blighty.

Calvinhobbes


Joined: 25/04/2010
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
30/12/2010 23:59

Can you explain that remark please?

Calvinhobbes


Joined: 25/04/2010
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
31/12/2010 00:01

Sorry - last post was for message 73

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
31/12/2010 00:07

Calvin it would take too long,Im sorry but if you live here you would now the person it refered to. It seems Elton is the biological father. happy new year xxx