It's gonna be too late !!

johndp


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 497

Message Posted:
05/01/2011 09:10

I have just been for a look around TQB after the heavy rains overnight, there are none of the promised flood prevention measures in place that were spoke about last year, the mud is still coming thru the walls and another bit of wall has come away where last years collapse still hasnt been repaired yet, the middle pool is full of muddy water and a breeding ground for mossies, the pools are in danger again as they were not dropped in preparation, so it looks as if there will be more bills to face, more of the walkways have sunk, HELP

Baspinar Bob


Joined: 15/02/2008
Posts: 618

Message Posted:
05/01/2011 09:18

johndp

Pipie will be along anytime soon to sort out all the problems !



Bob.

johndp


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 497

Message Posted:
05/01/2011 09:44

Bob

Sorry cant comment on that lol ;)

but things are not getting any better [sigh]

Hippo


Joined: 02/02/2007
Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
05/01/2011 09:49

TQB what is that????

johndp


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 497

Message Posted:
05/01/2011 09:55

Hippo

I like your style, you know dam fine it's a large estate near the Korenium golf course called Turquoise bay, altho is not too turquoise at the mo lol ;)

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
05/01/2011 17:28

Nah Baspinar Bob !! leave it to the professionals I say, Lynx appear to have it all in hand. Having said that I would imagine nearly every complex has been affected by the floods in one way or another.

Such a shame as most of the Turquoise bay grounds were looking pretty good before the floods. If any owner is concerned just E-mail Ebru at Lynx for an update, as always Lynx I feel sure will respond in there normal courteous way.

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
05/01/2011 21:09

What EXACTLY have Lynx got all in hand except your money ?? please explain, it is now eighteen months since Lynx were put in place by the developers, in that time the indoor pool and gym are no longer operational, the centre pool on site is not operational, the pavements are collapsing in, I certainly would not like my children to suffer injuries because of their condition.

No flood prevention measures have been put in place given the warnings of last year's rainfall.

The promise of regular monthly updates and reports are not happening, the last maintenance report on the Lynx website is dated September 2010, The monthly site account for November is for the fifth consecutive month showing a defecit, we are not being informed about who is not paying their way as Lynx show on their reports for other sites they run, perhaps you can tell us why because they wont tell us ??

Courteous e-mails that dont answer specific questions are not worth the paper they are written on

Waken up !!

johndp


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 497

Message Posted:
05/01/2011 22:10

What EXACTLY have Lynx got all in hand except your money ??



Love it L/D did you see the photos on the private forum :(



I dont blame Lynx as they cant loose either way. but the water deliveries should be less now tho, but then again the Leccy bills will go up



I ask owners to use the private forum, let everybody know your thoughts, somebody else posted today

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
05/01/2011 22:14

Here we go again.

Come on guys what is the point in this continual bickering that takes no one anywhere apart from around in circles.

I am sure everyone else is getting bored with this continual sniping between you all.

johndp


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 497

Message Posted:
05/01/2011 22:34

It might be about getting at the truth AJ - no offence, but pipie made some very damning statements on here blaming the last maintenance company for all the ills on TQB, but as has now been amply demonstrated, it was no fault of theres, no company can work under the present system and we are all getting fed up of it, we are still waiting after near on 18 months for word of an AGM, and getting things set in motion so that the site can progress rapidly, theres no point in people kidding on that there is gonna be a quick fix, but my argument is the last lot were doing OK even if pipie dont agree, but the mear fact she isnt an owner she should of had nothing to do with anything, but you can all see how she continually interferes and comes on with wisecracks and stirring comments.

Take it you got a copy of the e-mail as well.

Any way if folks dont want to they dont have to read these threads, isnt this what the board is about ??

Please dont construe this as being nasty xx

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
05/01/2011 22:45

All owners have got to do if they are concerned about the flooding is contact Lynx for an update, if owners have a issues with the Turquoise bay website contact lynx . SIMPLE !!

johndp


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 497

Message Posted:
05/01/2011 22:51

Why didn't you take a leaf out of your own book then when you were posting all the things against the last M/C on here if it was so simple, specially as you are not even an owner, please all we want is honesty not slagging off, & what was your daughters reasons for not paying when the last M/C took over, and why are you paying now ?? all we want is honesty

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
06/01/2011 01:30

Just needed to add on a personal note that Lynx have sorted out issues for us with just an E-mail or phone call in a very courteous professional way Speak as you find we always say !!

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
06/01/2011 08:42

Dear admin

Post 13 is EXACTLY what I have been doing from day one of this sorry saga, I have always spoken as I find, when I find people being economical with the truth I speak.

When I find people dodging issues I speak.

When I see rogues cheating people I speak

When I see someone refusing payment for services given I speak

When I see someone taking advantage of the system to evade taxation I speak

I always speak as I find, but I ALWAYS speak the truth.

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
06/01/2011 08:50

Well said Lazy days!The truth is often painful but it's the truth never the less.......

Geoff


Joined: 25/06/2008
Posts: 1370

Message Posted:
06/01/2011 09:46

Problem is, however, that som people are economical with the truth,

Geoff

hodgeliz


Joined: 16/10/2010
Posts: 278

Message Posted:
06/01/2011 09:53

Geoff message 14 says that in the post

My own experience is that people selling their properties in England (and Cyprus) are also economical with the truth.

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
06/01/2011 10:21

After the flooding of last year I would have thought the priority would have been for ANY complex to try to put in flood defenses, we did on our site to the best of our ability with the advice of the MC on site - we are hoping that these remedies chanelling the water elsewhere works... time will tell but at least we had the cash to do the work and got on with it for the sake of any causing any more damage.



Builders never put any for thought into flood defenses so unless you can get the constructors back to rectify it would have to be done by owners, via the committee and MC

johndp


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 497

Message Posted:
06/01/2011 14:11

18 MONTHS IS TOO LONG IN ANYBODYS BOOK

It should have been thought of and paid for long before now, but then again IF everybody had been paying from Day 1 three years ago there would not be a problem now, lessons for other places just starting hand over, dont sign hand over documents if you are not l00% happy, and dont lie to and about any company that are trying there best to put things right, dont you agree, then you can sleep easy at night knowing that you have not spoiled other peoples pleasure for two years, and maybe longer.

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
06/01/2011 17:15

Sites were only truly tested to the limits last year in the heaviest of rains though never had a problem on ours until last year then it showed the problem areas for sure.

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
06/01/2011 17:33

Turquoise bay were very fortunate to have an owner who worked with LYNX last year during, and after last years floods. This owner I assume appeared experienced in this field he offered practical advice on flood defence measures, bearing in mind last year was the first bad year for flooding on T/B.



Lynx acted on this advise by the owner and put in certain flood defence measures. I need to add that in my opinion it was a very good joint effort with the Lynx team and the owner.

It is very good to have a listening M/C.



A big thank you to that owner and Lynx ''well done''.

flutterby


Joined: 11/01/2008
Posts: 214

Message Posted:
06/01/2011 17:57

It is as the subject heading says, if you don't put all behind you and move on, it's been months of you all arguing with each other, that will not move things forward.



Sienna, our flood defences seem to be holding , well that is for now!! These rains cause terrible destruction!!

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
06/01/2011 18:49

wise words Flutterby unless you put your difference aside you will be ever divided



- thanks for info great news fingers crossed it will continue working over the rainy period

hodgeliz


Joined: 16/10/2010
Posts: 278

Message Posted:
06/01/2011 22:21

I would have thought a professional company like Lynx would have their own in house people or at least have access to people with the skills necessary who would be able to sort out flood defences without relying on owners to sort out the problems but its only my opinion

johndp


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 497

Message Posted:
06/01/2011 22:35

Pipie, why, oh why do you come on here and tell things that are not true unless you call putting two ridged sleeping policemen at D block entrance flood defence measures, I have been told by mods that if I dont stop attacking you I will be banned, well they can ban me if they like but your lies are now getting ridiculous.

Y ou fell out with glencoe because they refused to answer any more of you e-mails after you bombarded them with so many stupid ones, and you continually attacked them on here as was well shown with the posts that were pulled back up, you were a non payer along with a few others when they started up from scratch you did not give them you backing, you complained about not having a steam & sauna remember ? you took photos of silly things remember ? you wanted a contract remember ? you didnt have access to the beach remember ?

They got so fed up with non payers they pulled the plug, remember ? the complex was put back at least 2 years, remember ?

Remember well

johndp


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 497

Message Posted:
06/01/2011 22:47

Maybe its time you now acknowledged that you had no right to do and say all you did as you were not an owner, and were not entitled, and that you acted in haste with your spiteful rhetoric, and that you are only backing Lynx so much because you have now got no option and you cant lose face, they are in twice as long as the last lot and very little has happened, not because of you or your doings but because they cant lose as they take their money up front.

If you have anything constructive to say then people may listen but !!!

Many more posts can be brought to the fore to show what you did and said, and the exact same can be said about the present M/C but other people have given them 18 months and are now starting to question things.

Wouldnt you agree that measures should have been taken about october time to start putting in place flood prevention round the pools (a priority area) why weren't they ? why is the wall that collapsed last year during the wet spell still not repaired ?

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
06/01/2011 22:53

hodgeliz.

I think you will find that lynx work with owners, Lynx do not rely on owners as you put it far from it .

You probably do not know but the owner is on the acting committee for T/B, so to me this says that committee and Lynx show signs of working well together for the good of T/B.

The owner was experienced in the field of offering advice on flood defences and Lynx listened and as I said all worked as a team and appeared to worked well, not sure but lynx taken advice from an owner it may have also saved owners money so again that could have been a plus point for T/B owners.

At least Lynx do not appear to be control freaks and want to do all there way with no input from owners .

Nice to see you acknowledge Lynx as a professional company !! very nice.

BillyB


Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 436

Message Posted:
06/01/2011 23:01

I always thought that TQB is a holiday apartment complex but there have been so many threads over the last few years bickering over the same things, im begining to wonder if its the local alzheimers home?



Happy Easter to you all and all the best for 1987. Hope to see you last wednesday morning at the bonfire night, don't forget your swimming wear!



My management company is better than yours bla bla bla!!

johndp


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 497

Message Posted:
06/01/2011 23:04

Could it possibly be anything to do with the fact that there is no money in the kitty ?, and why is there no money in the kitty ? perhaps you can tell us ?

Why after all this time is there no properly elected committee in place (even tho the m/c has stated publicly on here there is)

Why are all the repairs that are needing done not being done.

After all you expected the last lot to do it all in 7 months, please just tell us how much longer will things take to put right.

Let me make a new year prediction, the m/c will want a substantial rise in fees shortly !!

Let me say something else, the amount being charged at present although 15% higher than the last lots fees is plenty if everybody pays - if everybody pays

hodgeliz


Joined: 16/10/2010
Posts: 278

Message Posted:
06/01/2011 23:10

Pipie

Mess 27

What is your referral to control freaks, sorry you lose me there

my limited knowledge of lynx would suggest them to be professional so why do make such a play on that point

johndp


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 497

Message Posted:
06/01/2011 23:14

You know mods you must be able to see that pipie keeps having her little digs by now

The message 27 suggests that the others did not listen to owners but The others did not listen to non paying owners, or people who didnt own, subtle difference.

Billyb thanks for trying to lighten the mood

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
06/01/2011 23:33

hodgeliz.



Some M/C in the past and present like to have control and say in all what goes on when they try and manage a complex they do not wish any owners to have a say in anything.

Lynx on the other hand as soon as they could after taking over T/B asked owners to organise a commitee and have shown forward thinking in arranging site meetings that involved owners who were on site at that time. These are just a few examples discussed on this thread that show Lynx in a good light, and NOT a control freak company !!

johndp


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 497

Message Posted:
07/01/2011 00:03

Has it slipped you mind pipie that the last m/c tried to get a committee and asked the present chair to try and organise one ? has it also slipped you mind that you were part of a site meeting with the developers some considerable time ago, selective memory loss



I think L/D will also be able to verify all of this, and indeed I think she will be able to show that many owners did indeed have constant dialogue with the last company, and wanted them to stay in place, the paperwork is all there to back this up, it was there decision to pull out.

I bet you are sitting there crossing and uncrossing your everything that the present lot dont pull out or you will have lost all face, but of course they are quite happy to sit put and say we can only do as funds allow and as theres no funds we can do nothing, this is the reality, its not the pipie -v- us show, its real life and the complex is still in a mess, just ask youself about your apt and the surrounds whats changed in 18 months ?

johndp


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 497

Message Posted:
07/01/2011 00:07

Thats right 'NOTHING' there is still bare earth around the side and back, at least the last lot pur in membrane and gravel and a few plants at the front of the place.

Oh sorry, forgot, there is a lovely view from the back terrace now, how big is it 4.2metres ??

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
07/01/2011 08:02

As JDP rightly says, the owners were asked by the previous M/C to organise and properly elect a committee, the proper way to go about things, as it was not part of the M/C's remit to do this, in fact pipie didn't you yourself try to set up a meeting in the UK or wherever, to do just that, didn't you also try to set up yout own web site and forum, both of which failed ?

I do indeed have all of the paperwork relating to many things, including contracts for clients, and interestingly, copies of e-mails to both the last company and the present one.

Pipie you went round and took photos of some very, 'shall we say nit picking things' to cast up to the last M/C, we still retain the e-mail with the pictures of a wire cable shoved into a socket, a small corner of a pool where there is some sand and a very tiny bit of dirt in a corner, some of the windows in the indoor pool area dirty, do you recall these, you blamed the M/C for these things, I wonder have you checked these things lately

ctd

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
07/01/2011 08:12

Ctd

Apart from the socket with the wires (it's now gone) the rest of the things are worse, in fact in your own block of apartments a bird mess on the stairwell windows, photographed in September/October was still there and photographed by G on the 5th of January, communal stairwells are also filthy, the developers (to whom your ire should have been directed) recently stated that the owners only owned their apartments the rest was communal ground, so it is the duty of the M/C to keep these in a clean and tidy condition, do you not agree ?.

Have you, (in your daughters guise) not looked at the photographs on the private forum, it may well be advantageous to you as you are now back in England, regardless of how you personally feel about it, you will see that there are a number of people with concerns.

FYI in case you forget the address is http://www.glencoecyprus.com owners private forum

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
07/01/2011 08:31

I have also seen a transcript of the meeting you requested with the developers and the M/C at the time, and the walk round that was conducted at your behest, in it there is no mention of any promises made by the M/C other than to keep in good repair the complex, and garden grounds, however there are a number of issues you took up with the developers, and THEY PROMISED they would be looked into and rectified, the steam & sauna, the putting green, the cracks in buildings, the lack of plants, these were promised to both the M/C and yourself to be delivered in the winter months and the M/C agreed to plant them when received, even though it was not their job to do this, and yes the plants were never forthcoming, the M/C went to Guzelyurt and obtained over 500 plants from the Beleidese garden centre and planted them, the receipts are still available for inspection to this day, this all rather flies in the face of the accusations you made to and about the M/C.

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
07/01/2011 08:42

Cont

You chose to air grievances on a public BB so you set the parameters and must therefore now accept the consequences, every month that goes by is costing not only you but many people some of their investment realisation, it could be so easily rectified by acknowledging that you were out of your depth and did not realise what was going on behind the scenes, and by following certain procedures the complex could now be a lovely place with all the pavements repaired, and all of the pools up and running, food for thought !!

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
07/01/2011 09:17

I have heard the T/B website may be updated net week. An ideal opportunity to ask any questions of the acting committee or Lynx, if any owner needs to. Good to see Lynx are starting the new year with an update and hopefully input from owners. Well done Lynx !!

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
07/01/2011 10:08

Just need to correct the first post on this thread by saying that flood defences were definatly put in last year by Lynx, an apology would be nice !!

johndp


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 497

Message Posted:
08/01/2011 13:01

Dont make us laff any more our sides are splitting already, read posts again a couple of sleeping policemen dont make flood defences.

As for apologies some people wouldnt know an apology if it hit em in the face isn't that right.

Its amazing how glenco's company was pilloried by pipie after only a couple of months on the site, for developers responsibilities, and were told by her they should not have taken on an unfinished site, yet the company on there now have been on site for one and a half years and the site is STILL unfinished, how about an apology being in order for that ??

Naw it takes guts to do that.

And once again she sidesteps every single question one day she will wake up and smell the roses

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
08/01/2011 19:56

Pipie message 32 are you an owner on TQB, if not I suggest your efforts should cease as you really are not doing yourself or the complex any favours, it is a fact that there are problems you do not comprehend and dare I say you have no right to know.

If you are an owner and have put your apartment in your daughters name as a way around the ownership rules for foreigners well and good, but you should then let you daughter speak for herself, you know fine well that you have said and done things not only on TQB but on other places as well that have not been true, you are still at it on here saying flood defences were put in place, yes if you class a couple of sleeping policemen, factually you may be right flood defences were put in place, but we have pictures taken during the rains showing the water pouring over them, so lets try and stop being foolish and either go away and desist or channel your energies into getting the people responsible to put things to rights

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
08/01/2011 20:09

Nice to see honesty regarding the defense measures being put in last year !!



Now onwards and upwards look forward to Lynx update. Have a good evening everyone !!

hodgeliz


Joined: 16/10/2010
Posts: 278

Message Posted:
08/01/2011 22:03

It is such a p ity the honesty you want from others does not stretch to yourself Anita, you really need a reality check, have you sold your home yet have a nice evening I know I will.

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
09/01/2011 12:25

Now we have got the truth here out in the open that the flood defenses were put in by Lynx may we now move on to other positives regarding Lynx managing the site !!

johndp


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 497

Message Posted:
09/01/2011 16:51

This is possibly gonna bring a ban but *pipie you are one sorry person* what planet are you livin on flood defences my holy ass, there are 2 sleepin policemen put in that is NOT, are you listening NOT flood defences, where are the channels to take away the water from the pools ?? where are the pointings on the walls to stop the muck from coming through ?? where are the drains to stop the water cascading down the roads and into the indoor swimming pool area?? wake up or shut up you know nothing about what goes on SORRY !!

But it's good of you to admit that we have got the truth out in the open and that you have been lying all this time, thanks for that.

Guess what mods she will still try to get the last word in with her warped sense of logic, can we make prophesies or what

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
09/01/2011 19:39

Ooops yes I forgot last Year after the flood damage lynx did repoint the wall that let through water so at least repointing has reduced the amount of flood damage that would have occured had it not been done, so forward thinking on LYNX behalf way back last year, couple this up with the sleeping policeman it looks like all in all recent flood damage has been reduced at this stage. When I have time I will dig out verification of this work being carried out.

Thank goodness Lynx have documentation, reports work logs etc to back up all of this up. !!!

Rottolover



Joined: 21/06/2009
Posts: 519

Message Posted:
09/01/2011 20:44

Sorry Pipie, but to someone who knows nothing about the flood damage issue at the TB site other than what he's read in this thread, you continue to come across as a bit of an idiot.



These other people have repeatedly told you that there has been no effective flood damage defenses put in place, and you continually ignore what they are saying. The significant word appears to be "effective", because it seems those silent cops simply allowed the flooding water to cascade over them, if we are to believe that those people saw and photographed this happening.



They also said there were no pointings done on the walls, and you say there were, so someone is being a bit extravagant with the truth. Even if the wall was repointed after letting water through, as you claim, then how can that be "forward thinking"? It's obviously a reaction to what had already occurred, if in fact it actually was carried out.



Your argument is evasive, selective, not logical and too praiseworthy of Lynx.

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
09/01/2011 21:46

Rottolover.





With all due respect I do know what I am talking about. Do you ? I do have connections with T/B and have recently been on site .



Now Rottolover could I ask what connections you have with T/B and when was the last time you visited T/B ?

johndp


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 497

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 00:28

Rottolover,

Pipie goes offline and gets more info from a 'friend' to post in reply to our posts 12.25 to 7.39, her uncle who is currently in the UK lives on the site, and with all due respect she really does not know what she is talking about, she was here for about 10 days over Xmas.

But the crux of the matter is, neither she nor her uncle or his wife have been on the site since the rains "we have" and the photos are all on the private forum which pipie can access with her other name she will not acknowledge that the wall that collapsed last year during the storms is still not repaired and is now worse, or that the entrance wall to the car park at the middle pool has collapsed or been knocked down and has been like this for the best part of a year as has the large hole in the main avenue into the site, nor will she acknowledge that the mud is all round the middle pool again where it has come thru the holes in the unpointed walls.

johndp


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 497

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 00:39

It is also impossible to walk on the pavements between B10 & B13 blocks as they have all sunk in, these are facts.

The trouble is that pipie has a major grudge and has made a bit of a fool of herself and she cant let go and admit that glenco did the right thing pulling out of TQB because they couldnt get the money in to cover the cost of maintaining the site.

She was forewarned that her actions would set the place back at least 2 years, a prediction that has come horribly true as it is in a worse state now than it was 2 years ago, except for the nicely maturing plants that were planted at that time, which have been tended well by Lynx since they took over, however Lynx wont go that extra mile unless there is money in the kitty where as the last company did, they repaired two sections of collapsed pavement, and they had staff on site all the time including a library and video exchange which has gone by the wayside now unfortunately.

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 01:28

I wish to state I do not have an Uncle on Tuquoise bay, also my movements in TRNC are wrong so my stalker needs to get there facts rights !!



As normal threads like these are started purley to will Lynx to fail . The negative posters have not the gaul to speak to Lynx and sort out there concerns on issues relating to Turquoise bay. Ask them why ?



All of the negative posters on this thread are related to the fact that these posters were were involved with the previous M/C who managed T/B they live in regret and cannot take on board that they failed miserably Had no management skills and that they are history.



Quite a few owners including some of the previous staff and me included were sheer glad the day they walked off site.



Lynx took on T/B an unfinished and run down site







Now to get back on thread, T/B will shortly have a maintenance update from Lynx and hopefully the report will clarify all what has been mentioned on this thread !!!

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 03:42

Rottolover.



I suggest you pop along to T/B and just see for your self who's name is mud on there !!

Rottolover



Joined: 21/06/2009
Posts: 519

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 06:20

Pipie, it seems you have difficulty in understanding the written word. I repeat that all I know about TB is what I have read in this thread. My issue is that the other people have posted many specifics about the site, which presumably they do know about, and you simply ignore them. Do you work for Lynx?



I will be in TRNC shortly, and will indeed pop over to TB for a gander.

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 08:37

I wish to state that johndp may have got the relationship between pipie and her relative who lives on TQB wrong, but she certainly has a relative living there, so that is addressed.



As for the points about wishing Lynx to fail, absolute tosh pipie, as you say Lynx are professional and they will know when or if they need to resile from the contract they have (?) with the developers, absolutely nothing you or anyone else will be able to do to influence that until there is a properly and constitutionally elected committee in place.



It seems to escape your notice on each occasion that you are the one who comes in on these threads, your input is not invited or indeed necessary, may I once again draw your attention to the fact that I am not related in any way to the previous M/C nor was I involved with the previous M/C whilst they were on TQB, I do not live in regret and I have not failed at anything,

Cont

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 08:53

Nor may I add did the last M/C, the main Investor, who by the way had two other partners with no financial interest in the business (although they were asked to give a commitment), decided that enough was enough and was not prepared to invest a further £20K for another year to keep other peoples investments looking good.

Pleased to see that you admit though that "Lynx took on an unfinished and run down site" that gives a large accolade to Glencoe, because they took on an absolutely bare site, put down membrane and gravel in many places including at your apartment and all along your road, they put in 90% of the plants and cactus that are now flourishing, put in the rock features and many many plants would you like me to put up links on here showing the then 2008 and now 2011 to give the lie to your accusations.

There has been much pub gossip as has been stated previously, and certain people have given you mis information to feed your hunger for causing upset

Cont

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 09:05

However all you have succeeded in doing is showing up your frailties, and holding back the complex for the past two + years, it all comes down to that.

You have repeatedly used the word "HOPEFULLY" in your references to what the present maintenance company are going to do, this points to a doubt being in your mind as to whether they will do things.

You stated over one and a half years ago among your yeahoos etc, that the complex had now got a company in situ who would keep us all up to date on everything and be transparent, can I now ask you do you accept or deny that it is now a year since the last minutes of any meeting were posted on their web site, do you accept or deny that the last maintenance report was September 2010, do you accept or deny that the fund has been in the red for five months running, do you accept or deny that Lynx stated on here that the present committee was properly elected and yet you now refer to them as the "interim committee" who is right and who is wrong

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 09:27

Finally let me once again re-iterate, as you were not - and are not an owner you were not - and are not entitled to be involved in the business of TQB, also any reasonable and rational person does not send the amount of e-mail communications you sent and expect people to keep replying with the same answers, as you did to the previous M/C and indeed Vesalina Berkova who worked for the developers, and indeed to the present M/C as well, it is to my mind an obsession with you and a dangerous one at that.

I have been corresponding with another 44 member about things TQB recently and the person who is quite 'clued up' paid a visit to the complex a few weeks ago - their unsolicited opinion was its now in a disgraceful state, says it all really.

So if at all possible can you explain how you can say that the complex has improved in the past 18 mths.

Perhaps if you will alow me to give you some advice, it might be better if you stick to asking directions or giving plaudits to restaurants.

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 09:59

Rotolover.



By all means have a gander, However ensure you speak to owners on site including Lynx and me.I would only be to pleased E-mail you photos from day one as well if that will inform you furthur.

No I do not work for Lynx, My daughter owns an apartment on T/B. I think that puts us in the foreground to comment and put our views and opinions forward. Just ak yourself one question why do the negative posters on here speak to Lynx ??????????????????? then comment!!

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 10:07

L/d.



You stated

''may I once again draw your attention to the fact that I am not related in any way to the previous M/C nor was I involved with the previous M/C whilst they were on TQB, I do not live in regret and I have not failed at anything''



If that is the case please explain your messeges in this thread, it appears to me that you were in the know so to speak !!

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 10:15

The negatives you speak of are all facts pipie, something you seem unable or unwilling to digest, the problems on TQB are not of Lynx making, nor were they of the past M/C's making, again something you fail to grasp, in the case of the last M/C there was insufficient people paying their fees on time and up front (your daughter was a contributory factor in their first six months tenure) in the case of the present M/C there are insufficient people paying their fees on time and up front, these are simple facts, not made up stories or rumourmongering.

For your information the people who are dissatisfied with the present situation have been and are speaking to Lynx, what leads you to believe otherwise ? (one ? will suffice for me)

As it now seems you are incapable of responding to sensible comments may I suggest you find threads more suited to your abilities and leave others to discuss the problems TQB faces.

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 10:27

A picture paints a thousand words - certainly the site still had walls down and holes in the road when I went around it end of November , but no company can run a site effectively without funds FACT, but what they can do is, instead of commissioning all the facilities is look after what they can maintain and rectify with the available funds that are coming in.



This should be decided amongst elected committee, owners and MC - with the full acounts in front of you decided what should be maintained and communicate to all then everyone knows what has been and what will be done, then build on that once you get all maintenance payments in.



Just a suggestion ! otherwise you will never get anywhere

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 10:47

Thank you once again for your input sienna, it is nice to see that it is not just people who have "negative intent" that can see the problems, they have now been ongoing for 2 years, much too long for any sensible individual to endure without wanting some form of action.

Pipie your message 60 made me smile, YOU want me to answer YOUR questions, now why should I do that as you fail to answer most questions If I was "in the know so to speak" are you saying and admitting that what I know is correct at last, ? this maybe explains your concern at what I know.

johndp


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 497

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 10:59

I will tell you what I know and that is the complex is in a mess and that is from a paid up owner on the complex, dare try to call me a liar pipie and since I bought 18 months ago its been the same, now your record was to attack the last lot for the place not being fit so now its my turn boot on other foot now eh !!

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 11:11

lazy days

I can see you are avoiding message 60 ???????????



My daughter paid 6 months maintenance previous M/C walked after 10 months !!



Of course other owners did not pay and the reason being is the M/C took on a site that was not finished and set a foundation for all of this anguish. That M/C is responsible for most of the on going problems T/B has today.

That M/C allowed that site to be handed over and clearly he was wrong to do so. At that time owners were not present at handover thousands of miles away and relied on the good word of that M/C who clearly acted wrongly.

He could have prevented all if this by simply informing owners the site was not ready for hand over, but he chose not to, That M/C then billed owners maintenance expecting owners to pay to maintain a site half finished , completely and utterly wrong so in a nutshell he is the cause and lives with this backlash of the present issues on site, caused by him !!



cont

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 11:18

As a family supporting our daughter we requested a meeting with that M/C wrongly thinking that issues could have been discussed, how wrong we were. Without any warning we were met by 5 men including that M/C.

That M/C led the meeting in the most unprofessional intimidating way way. It was not the only meeting that was led in that way , Other owners presented details of this unprofessional intimidating manner and owners were expected to pay this man ???????





Lazy days I am pleased you have stated that ''the problems on TQB are not of Lynx making''



That is all I have been saying on this thread so now we can put this to bed !!!

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 11:34

Pipie why do you continue to spout these lies, in one breath you are talking about a M/C the next you are talking about "HIM" who is this "HIM", who were these five men ?

Message 65 so you are now admitting that Lynx were wrong to take on an unfinished site and to charge maintenance ? 15% more than the last company, thats progress ?.

I am reliably informed that your daughter NEVER attended any meeting with the last M/C, but the transcript of a meeting you and your husband had with the developers in the company of the last M/C is on file, where the developers promised that certain things would be done in a certain timescale, funny how the present company and interim? committee are after over a year saying the exact same thing that they are still chasing the developers to get the same things done.

Interesting you say your daughter paid 6 mths maintenance but you neglect to say over 6 mths late !

Somebody had to take on the site as clowns like

Cont

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 11:46

Signed hand over documents declaring they were happy, and instead of helping the good people who were working to better things your family were deliberately withholding payments, thus contributing to causing things to stagnate.

The M/C did not lead the meeting you attended as will be verified by the developer, you simply asked to have a meeting with the developer to discuss your issues, which the M/C set up, one of the M/C staff accompanied you on the walk round.

It is obvious that you cannot see the wood for the trees and I think you need to take a step back from posting any more as you are distorting facts, as you do in message 66 where you take part of a sentence and use it in a distorted way, do you insult the intelligence of the readers by thinking they cannot see these tactics, my sentence said "the problems on TQB were not of Lynx making, nor were they of the past M/C's making" can you understand the difference ?

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 12:01

Again message 66 I think you will find that it was you (not an owner) and one other person who owned but had not signed a hand over document who had rows with the last M/C, and if anyone else has now jumped on the bandwagon then so be it, and in any walk of life or business these things happen, you cannot please all of the people all of the time, but the first M/C on three occasions asked ALL owners they could contact if they were satisfied with the levels of service being given and the overwhelming response was YES, these are still available for viewing, funny that these things are there in black and white but all of your accusations are supposition and distortions.

Did you ever stop to think that if you went away then all of this might just go away as well

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 12:08

Lazy days.



You are now resorting to telling mistruths !!

johndp


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 497

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 12:21

What are you going to say to me pipie, I am unhappy as I said in mess 64 and it was me started this thread the place is not right, we have given people a chance to put it right, more than you gave the last lot eh?? but its worse now, maybe you dont care to recognise this fact with your hate filled blinkers on as is amply demonstrated in you posts65 & 66 but it is still a fact, there is hardly any presence on the site and little is being done, how do you think it should be dealt with, whats the reasons for it being like this, shurely you cant blame a company thats been away since May 2009, BUT THATS EXACTLY WHAT YOURE DOING ISNT IT bit sick dont you think.

And its funny every time we bring things up here another letter comes out or there is a little movement from committee or M/C.

You might speak to you little clike but I speak to owners that live on site (not your uncle - sorry-relatives)

and they are unhappy as well and it is on the private forum so what do you do to defend that

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 12:24

I can back up everything I say pipie I challenge you to show me where the mistruths are ?

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 12:27

You say my daughter was not present at the meeting with Greg and 4 other men ? do you stand by that ?

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 12:35

I stand by exactly what I said, "I am reliably informed that your daughter did not attend any meeting with the last M/C"

Will you now please answer both jdp's and my questions who is "HIM"

How can you justify blaming a company that has been away since May 2009 for all the Ills on TQB, was the wall down then, was there a hole in the road then, were the pavements collapsing in then, had the sides been torn off building then, was the car park entrance wall down then.

Please answer

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 12:37

Johndp.



Lazy days stated ''''the problems on TQB are not of Lynx making'' I agree with Lazy days statement !!!

johndp


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 497

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 12:42

Mods and others i know you are all probably hartily sick of all this but I think we have proved a point here on this thread now, we leave it up to you the jury to decide lol

As martinD said in message 15 the truth is often painful but its the truth none the less !!

Some people dont have the moral fibre to admit they got it wrong.



Am going to rest my case now, rottolover called it and theres many more out there but prefer to keep it on the private forum, why dont you come on as your otherself pipie and see what is being said

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 12:47

I will rest my case when Lazy days answers her mistruths ?? c'mon L/d answer messege 73 ?

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 12:49

Lazy days stated

"the problems on TQB were not of Lynx making, nor were they of the past M/C's making"

I ask again can you understand the difference ?



Johndp as I said before you can educate the illiterate but not the ignorant.

We will leave the floor to pipie now to continue her halucinations

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 13:04

Johndp.







Been on that forum and very conveniently banned just before I Proved mistruths on there ?? why is it private ?? I will tell you why it is because other folk can prove mistruths have been said ?? how come no one is allowed to challenge on there ?? must think we are all stupid !!

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 13:06

Pipie are you really so ignorant, I answered you message 73 in my message 74, please DO take time to digest the written word

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 13:07

Lazy days as expected you cannot answer can you ??? because you know my daughter was present at that meeting one mistruth proved against you ??



Now for the next what date did Glencoe take over and what date did he walk off site ? bet you scurrying away at this point ? c'mon answer



More to come

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 13:13

Pipie PLEASE reread message 74, more to be pitied than scolded, In my humble opinion Glencoe is a company not a "him" or a "he" please do not confuse yourself any more.

Unlike you I do not need to scurry anywhere

hodgeliz


Joined: 16/10/2010
Posts: 278

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 13:15

Anita

you have a real cheek asking anybody to answer questions , you are a renowned world champ at the art of avoiding issues as has been well demonstrated, nobody dares to have a diffrent opinion do they???

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 13:16

Lazy days .



As predicted you fail to answer your mistruths as you know I can prove you are telling them ? you are looking foolish



I ask you again ?

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 13:29

Oh dear having to pull in the double identities ( hodgeliz )are we same old trick rears up again lets see how you wriggle out of these mistruths ????





still waiting Lazy days ????

johndp


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 497

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 13:41

Pipie

Why dont you grow up, l/d answered you, thats more than youve ever done, mods pipie is intent on taking my thread off topic, the thread is about the condition of TQB as it is today after a company being in place for over 18 months, I have listened to her slavers for long enough now, how come anybody that disagrees with you is miscalled.

Message 84 dont just say you can prove, prove it, any assho*e can say they can prove something but its a different matter producing the goods, and you have been getting asked for proof of all you accusations for nearly 2 yrs now, without anything but drivel coming back, and again message79

*Been on that forum and very conveniently banned just before I Proved mistruths on there ?? why is it private ?? I will tell you why it is because other folk can prove mistruths have been said ?? how come no one is allowed to challenge on there ?? must think we are all stupid !!

NO Pipie we dont think that, you got banned for ignorance and slagging off

johndp


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 497

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 13:48

But as youve got another identity on there you can still visit it, a point to note tho you are not too well thought of on there so tread carefull

Still waiting for an answer from you re the points raised in message 74

How can you justify blaming a company that has been away since May 2009 for all the Ills on TQB, was the wall down then, was there a hole in the road then, were the pavements collapsing in then, had the sides been torn off building then, was the car park entrance wall down then.



Please answer

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 13:48

Wriggling are you johndp ??? yes you started this thread to put Lynx in a bad light .



Question for you Have you spoken to Lynx about you issues ?





Lazy days I presume you have now back tracked and we can safely sayyou have failed to answer the questions relating to your mistruths !!!

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 13:56

Once again the TQB thread has ended in a slagging match.



So with the greatest respect to you ALL I would think that you need to have a vote and decide to stay or not with the MC you have at present, give the past management company another chance (if they want it) or find another that you are ALL going to be happy with and who will carry out the works needed in a short space of time, with the minimum of disruption and cost to you all.



Also may be a good idea if all on Skype to set up a conference call between you and hammer out the problems on there. Just my opinion of course but after reading all the threads on TQB it is clear that something needs done and fast before the rot really sets in between you all, IT'S GOOD TO TALK.



I really don't envy any of you with all the problems associated with the apartment / complex living.



Good Luck

Chris

Rottolover



Joined: 21/06/2009
Posts: 519

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 14:22

I think nurseawful has made a good suggestion about trying to move forward with all the apparent problems you are facing on that site.



But one point I've noticed in some of the previous palaver is that apparently not all the owners have been paying their management fees, either regularly and on time, or even at all. This is obviously a situation that can't be allowed to continue, and there really should be some legal way of addressing the problem. You can't do a lot of repairs and maintenance if you can't collect the necessary funds.



Unless the damage control is work that should have been done by the developer, that is. That would be a whole nother ball game.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
10/01/2011 14:27

This thread is now closed. Reason: Thread was addressed and no need for further posts.