4 BEDROOM VILLA 55k

goingback


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Message Posted:
15/01/2011 13:58

Yes you read it right !!



situated on the mountain side of the road in Karsiyaka within easy walking distance of local shops.

White good included. has shutters and fly screens.





kochan could be available 1/9th share not parceleised yet



Ill health forces return to uk.



photos available.

katenianholia


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Message Posted:
15/01/2011 14:02

Hi We are interested in your propery Can you send photos to katethomson4@talktalk.net



Thanks

goingback


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Message Posted:
15/01/2011 14:17

photos sent

goingback


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Message Posted:
15/01/2011 15:19

did you get them ?

Marisa


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Message Posted:
15/01/2011 15:38

Hi , could you send pictures to me please?



domnakipre@list.ru

jake1


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Message Posted:
15/01/2011 15:53

hi could you send me pictures too please

angiebowen@yahoo.com

Pugwash


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Message Posted:
15/01/2011 16:05

Is this a villa or a bungalow please?

katenianholia


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Message Posted:
15/01/2011 16:39

Hi



Just e-mailed you



Thanks

billyboy1


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Message Posted:
15/01/2011 16:42

have e mailed you

mrjim



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Message Posted:
15/01/2011 16:44

pictures please

jimjpoc@hotmail.com

negativenick


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Message Posted:
15/01/2011 16:52

the vultures are out !!

HildySmith


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Message Posted:
15/01/2011 17:36

well why not - I hope someone gets a good home out of it.

astonhilbilly


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Message Posted:
15/01/2011 17:47

Hello Goingback, sorry to hear about your ill health. Friends of ours are very interested in your property and would like to view ASAP - would it be possible for you to supply your telephone number please - if not could you ring 0533 8622649.

Many thanks and good luck.

goingback


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Message Posted:
15/01/2011 18:18

pug wash its what ever you want to call it 3 bedrooms longe kitchen and hallway downstairs 1 bedroom up stairs.



astonhilbilly and others all emails replied to .



if kochan was in my possession as opposed to available it would be 79k at least.



it is priced to SELL

Bradus


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Message Posted:
15/01/2011 18:36

if kochan was in my possession as opposed to available it would be 79k at least.



Exactly!

cronos


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Message Posted:
15/01/2011 19:09

Unfortunately this is indicative of the way that the TRNC property market is heading.



Realistic pricing....by which I mean dirt cheap.....is the only way that buyers will be persuaded to take a gamble in the shark pool that is the North Cyprus property market.

tomahawk


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Message Posted:
15/01/2011 19:55

Hi My wife has just e-mailed you



Thanks

tomahawk


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Message Posted:
15/01/2011 19:55

Hi



My wife has just e-mailed you



Thanks

goingback


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Message Posted:
15/01/2011 22:43

tomahawk



i have replied

TRNCvictim


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Message Posted:
15/01/2011 23:28

goingback (mess 1)



If your circumstances mean you have ill health, I feel so sorry you are in such a dreadful quandary! believe me I know where you are coming from, but I have to say to all the future victims who are replying to you!



NO KOCAN NO MONEY!



Would anyone anywhere in the world buy a home with NO DEEDS?.............. If it's too good to be true, is usually is! before you get your deeds there maybe a mortgage on the land..............where will that leave you????

JillC


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Message Posted:
15/01/2011 23:54

Hi can you please send photos to dcompton44@yahoo.co.uk

Quarmby


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Message Posted:
16/01/2011 00:02

TRNCvictim msg21



with all that is going on in the TRNC, I am utterley amazed. People are still prepared to lose all, will anyone learn anything? Sadly I fear not.

Blackbird



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Message Posted:
16/01/2011 00:58

Yes Quarmby, but it's a bargain, and us Brits cannot resist....????

LaptaMike


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Message Posted:
16/01/2011 01:08

Is it overlooking an army base or close to one?

Bradus


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Message Posted:
16/01/2011 01:10

Who needs title deeds anyway?I hear that loads of buyers have not got them and its OK isn't it? You have your registered contract so what can happen?



Other than those dreaded memorandums?

goingback


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Message Posted:
16/01/2011 06:57

contract registered no memorandums or owy else on the land , no water shortages here.

fosterscan


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Message Posted:
16/01/2011 10:46

Good luck goingback lots of expats live in there places with no deeds for years with no issues, then sell and move on for the next owners with out any problems .No one needs the deeds if the price is right.i would rather have your villa with no deeds than any off plan place that might never be built.How many of the no deeds no money group are the ones who paid up front for nothing.

cronos


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Message Posted:
16/01/2011 11:52

Fosterscan...msg 27



Whilever people like you make out that deeds don't matter...that this is the "Cyprus way"....and you can live happily without them.....then the situation won't change and thousands of other buyers face becoming potential victims of memoranda, proxy auctions and repossession.



"No one needs the deeds if the price is right"......What an absolutely ridiculous statement !

fosterscan


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Message Posted:
16/01/2011 14:16

cronos alot of people live in there houses with out deeds FACT. we are only on this planet for a short time why worry about a small detail of deeds anyway. just enjoy the beautiful place while we can

cronos


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Message Posted:
16/01/2011 15:02

Fosterscan....msg 29



Well if that "small detail" as you put it could lead to your property being repossessed and you being made homeless then I think it is something you should worry about !



The FACT that lots of people live in their houses without deeds only compounds the problem!

They do not OWN it....the deedholder does !

eager


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Message Posted:
16/01/2011 15:53

Hi, Photos please to wilson18@tiscali.co.uk . Cash buyer. Thanks

lippylush


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Message Posted:
16/01/2011 19:25

All I would say to prospective buyers is BEWARE. there may be no memorandums on the property now, but you could easily end up with this scenario and ultimately lose your home. It doesn't matter if the contract has been registered any so called debtor can go to court and get a memorandum even, as in our case a very dubious one, which has effected 17 home owners. It has taken us all long months to try and sort the mess out and cost us all extra, we're all now just hoping that despite the extra cost we are close to getting our Deeds which will give us some added security. Please BEWARE BEWARE.

If I had been aware when we purchased our home back in 2006 of the potentail pitfalls I certainly would not have purchased as we did. You could end up paying very dearly for the house in the long run and even face losing your home. Just read the threads about the homeowners who have lost everything and take note.

goingback


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Message Posted:
16/01/2011 19:31

sent eager



many thanks to all who have shown an interest.

TRNCvictim


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Message Posted:
16/01/2011 19:53

lippylush (mess 32)



It makes you despair! I hope they don't learn the hard way!!!! Ah well we can only do our best! eyes wide shut and all that, at least no-one can say nobody warned them!

goingback


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Message Posted:
16/01/2011 20:23

TRNCvictim





what do you suggest we walk away ? leave the place empty for a squatter ?



we paid the builder the asking price he walked away the landowner has been paid there are no outstanding debts we know of after7 years we wold should could know of them.



The place is placed to sell b\knowing the situation is as it is.

goingback


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Message Posted:
16/01/2011 20:24

TRNCvictim











what do you suggest we walk away ? leave the place empty for a squatter ?







we paid the builder the asking price he walked away the landowner has been paid there are no outstanding debts we know of after7 years we wold should could know of them.







The place is placed to sell knowing the situation is as it is.

TRNCvictim


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Message Posted:
16/01/2011 22:03

goingback (mess 36)



I understand exactly what you are going through at the moment! you or a member of your family have health problems and you need to go back home?



I am really not trying to sabotage your exit from the TRNC, but I have to try to get any future victims to understand the implications of giving their life saving to anyone in the TRNC! there is no protection for them! I understand you gave the asking price to the builder, and the landowner has been paid but they (whoever buys your property has NO PROTECTION whatsoever until they have the DEEDS!



Why haven't you got your DEEDS after 7 years?



As long as any future victim understands the situation! and understands he/she is only paying 55K because there are no DEEDS that is fine!



May I wish you the very best with your health problem! there are many who had no choice but to walk away, with dreadful health problems!



My mantra is still "NO KOCAN NO MONEY"



Good Luck to you and to your buyer!!!!!!!

Bradus


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Message Posted:
16/01/2011 23:01

Lets hope the much reduced price will attract a TC buyer.The contract will then be written in such away as to ensure no deeds and no money. The TC's and their lawyers rarely ever purchase without simultaneously changing of deeds on receipt of all monies.





What a safe way to do business!

goingback


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 07:54

TRNCvictim.



this is our home we have embraced it for the past 7 years !



yes there are health problems and they will get worse not better.





Why haven't you got your DEEDS after 7 years , the builder did not apply for permissions etcetc thiey have now been applied and paid for and are imminent.



55K because there are no DEEDS that is fine.



THIS HAS BEEN MAD CLEAR TO ANY AND ALL ENQUIRERS.

yrret


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 08:46

Sounds to me that with a little research to confirm, and at this price, someone wanting to jump on board will bag a bargain here.

Good luck 'goingback' and all works out well for you.

goingback


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 09:11

yrret



Many thanks .

stevo-london


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 09:43

please email details to steven-compton@hotmail.com



could you also please email over a contact number



regards



Steven

eagleyemonkey


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 09:44

Please could you email some photos to hmickthebrick@ntlworld.com

malsancak


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 09:53

goingback, who is the landowner?

vicky84


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 10:40

please email photos viktoria@remaxgoldencyprus.com



we might have client for your property awaiting



thank you

goingback


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 11:21

malsancak



ak tad market

eager


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 11:35

Waiting for pics...

goingback


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 11:40

vicky84



eagleyemonkey



stevo-london



Many thanks for your interest photos on their way to you

martinD41


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 11:41

"Concrete Tent" 55k, bit pricey!!

goingback


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 12:05

vicky84



:





The e-mail message could not be delivered because the user's mailfolder is full.

vicky84


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 12:29

please try this one viktoriakra@gmail.com



thank you

goingback


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 12:54

sent vicky please confirm receipt,



thanks

trisha

Bradus


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 15:55

In all fairness the seller has truthfully warned all interested parties that there are no deeds, even after 7 years. You can't complain about this, people are going in with eyes wide open.



If only builders would admit this when selling their property.

martinD41


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 16:10

No Deeds after 7 YEARS, that makes 55K for a concrete Tent a total rip off



Bradus,....."Eyes Wide Open" At Last!! But be assured that they definitely won't get what they paid for..........and the Builders will continue to admit NOTHING.. . .

fosterscan


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 16:28

Aren't these concrete tents the same as the ones all around the world. martind41 how much would this be on the market for in Spain or south Cyprus even in this depressed market.They will get what they pay for a roof over there head in a beautiful country at a rock bottom price.

Bradus


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 17:11

FOSTERSCAN,



Don't know about you but most people when paying for a house expect to legally own it. Without the deeds you can't actually achieve this.You can buy my house if you want, on the same condition. You give me the money but I continue to own it and when I can't pay for my new house and car I will use this house as assets for the bank or people I am in debt to



You will only guarantee, having a roof over your head, if the builder gives you the deeds and decides not to pay off his debts via a memorandum.



There is no point comparing the cost of this house with Spain or South Cyprus. Unless you are comparing it with houses that the seller does not own also.



Wake up smell the coffee and realise that £55000 is a good buy for a legitimate purchase but not if you lose the house and the money after a few years.There is no guarantee that this won't happen.

Bradus


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 17:13

Even estate agents will not touch property without deeds. What does this message say?

martinD41


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 17:23

A" ROOF".......Exactly........." aren't these concrete tents the same as the ones all around the World" Yes they are mostly the same,and should be Valued accordingly...Or at least built to a standard which would justify the dropping of the Concrete Tent "Tag"...............Someone may buy it, but probably never "OWN" it....

billyboy1


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 17:25

Bradus



your wrong



estate agents are seeling properties without deeds



A friend of mine has his house on the market with at least 4 agents in TRNC and he has no deeds.....

goingback


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 17:28

no central heating or swimming pool sorry !!



Bradus are you aware how many deeds have not been given to buyers in the south by the church alone?



There is no point comparing the cost of this house with Spain yes it will not be pulled down as in spain.



or South Cyprus.



no one can loose owt here contract is stamped with land registry and we can sign power of atourney over for said contract.





PLEASE STOP SCAREMONGERING.



AT 55K it really is a bargain all things considered . or if my husband is still alive and well when kochan is all sorted then will you pay 79 k market value for it ?

goingback


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 17:30

no central heating or swimming pool sorry !!



Bradus are you aware how many deeds have not been given to buyers in the south by the church alone?



There is no point comparing the cost of this house with Spain yes it will not be pulled down as in spain.



or South Cyprus.



no one can loose owt here contract is stamped with land registry and we can sign power of atourney over for said contract.





PLEASE STOP SCAREMONGERING.



AT 55K it really is a bargain all things considered . or if my husband is still alive and well when kochan is all sorted then will you pay 79 k market value for it ?

Bradus


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 18:23

Memorandums take precedence over registered contracts, goingback.Therefore you are not safe.



I am not scaremongering simply stating the facts. I hope everything works out well for you but I'm sure you want a buyer that does not feel aggrieved. I admire you immensely for coming clean about the lack of title deeds, most sellers would have ignored and hidden this fact. You have been honest and all future responsibility for anything that happens will be the purchasers, who will now be going in with eyes wide open.



Yes I am very aware of the title deed problem in the South, but 2 wrongs don't make a right do they?



Good Luck

Bradus


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 18:28

Billyboy,



Sorry, I stand corrected.

There was a time when Estate Agents refused to sell without confirmation of deeds. See previous threads from sellers about this) A few are still doing this. Many have now had a change of heart. However I don't think they realised just how many didn't have deeds!

Lilli



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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 19:38

i Really hope that they find a buyer soon. If I had any money I would really consider it. As they have been honest enough.I wish you well and hope everything works out for you xxx

cemaliye7a


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 19:39

is it still for sale? If so, I would be grateful if you could send pic to gemma7a@hotmail.com.



I also would like to see it too..



I can also be reached on 0533 840 5849..

goingback


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 19:59

cemaliye7a



photos and contact details sent cemaliye7a



PLEASE NOTE



there is no swimming pool central heating and we are not leaving all the furniture beds etc etc.

cemaliye7a


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 20:06

Just checked but no email came through.. Please can u re send it?

goingback


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 20:38

sent again to gemma7a@hotmail.com

Jill C


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 20:45

Hi, I do not appear to have received the photographs we requested back on 15 Jan. Would it be possible to send them to dcompton44@yahoo.co.uk . Thank you.

goingback


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 21:09

ent at 9.07 kibris time to dcompton44@yahoo.co.uk



if any one else has not had pics when requesr=ted please let me know as I have sent to all who have requested.

Ballyboffin


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 21:37

goingback,



I am so sorry about all the grief that you have received here by posting the sale of your home. It is very obvious that your back is in the corner to sell for that price and I totally sympathise with you and your husband. I see that you are a new member on here and apologise for the replies that your posting has attracted. My advice is to ignore the nasty comments.



Perhaps all of you 'helpful' people who have posted here could put themselves in this ladies position and show some compassion. How many of YOU have deeds, or indeed how many of YOU own property in TRNC?



As has been said before by MANY estate agents.... 'Deeds are only a formality, you will get them eventually'



Best of luck goingback.

TRNCvictim


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 21:43

As has been said before by MANY estate agents.... "Deeds are only a formality, you will get them eventually"



Ballyboffin!



Are you yet another sufferer of HISS? My heart goes out to you!

Bradus


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Message Posted:
17/01/2011 23:02

Message 71,



try telling that to those that bought from Boyut!

Deeds mean you own the property. Living in a property without getting your deeds means the builder still legally owns it.



When will the message get through that it is of paramount importance to get those deeds? They are your only safety net.

Ballyboffin


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Message Posted:
18/01/2011 00:14

Message 72/73



We own the property, all taxes are paid and the Pre-74 Turkish Title Kocan is in our name.



Having done all the research 6 years ago we thought it safest.



Fat lot of good now, we are in the same position as the people who have NO DEEDS, maybe worse because we paid extra for the title. Now we can't sell it honestly to anyone other than a TC.

Bradus


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Message Posted:
18/01/2011 02:04

Ballyboffin,



You have a legal title deed and one that is 100% internationally recognised. Trust me you are in a very good position. Yes you may only be able to sell it to a TC but that does not necessarily mean at a low price. Most TC's will only buy pre 74 and as they become rare you may well find demand dictates the price.



No matter what the settlement or if things continue as they are............you are completely safe. Deeds on Pre 74, you really are lucky.



If ever you advertise it, do it in the Londra Gazette. Its not as gloomy as you think.

goingback


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Message Posted:
18/01/2011 10:09

many thanks for the kind emails and the helpful comments.



I hope any one interested in this bargain , has now got the photos.

doggiesteve


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Message Posted:
18/01/2011 14:13

goingback



I wish you the best of luck.

Allan


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Message Posted:
18/01/2011 15:01

Hi Going back



Have you sold the property yet? If not please send me photo's.



I wish you luck

goingback


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Message Posted:
18/01/2011 15:10

CALL ON 0533 846 2980



To make an appointment if you are interested



thanks



trisha

goingback


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Message Posted:
18/01/2011 18:37

many kind wishes thanks



just one buyer needed Please .

Darkcat


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Message Posted:
18/01/2011 23:20

Hi , be so kind to send pictures







nusaduacost@rambler.ru

luem1


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Message Posted:
19/01/2011 00:52

I know this villa and the people selling it.



At 55k it is not only a bargain, it is an absolute steal!!!



The deeds are only just around the corner ( everything agreed with land owner). There is no mortgage against the property; and there can't be because the contract is registered at the Land Registry.



The only reason for selling is his declining health problems. The house is OK.

goingback


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Message Posted:
19/01/2011 08:09

Darkcat



photos sent at 08.00 kibris time.



luem1 many thanks.

goingback


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Message Posted:
19/01/2011 16:58

Darkcat



did you get them ?

flutterby


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Message Posted:
19/01/2011 17:07

Are deeds to be recognised then in a country that is not recognised?

goingback


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Message Posted:
19/01/2011 18:01

untill the Greek cypriots come then the poo will hit the fan will te trnc government honor their promises ? to the non t/cs that have invested here spent money her and sweat blood tears and broken hearts helping people through the system here ?

istuart


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Message Posted:
20/01/2011 07:20

can u please send pics

goingback


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Message Posted:
20/01/2011 08:36

istuart

where to I can not see your email address.

goingback


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Message Posted:
20/01/2011 09:52

here are some photos on line



http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5285/5353578789_f4d7acae9f_b.jpg



http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5206/5353580187_272cf6e401_b.jpg



http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5283/5353583315_f40f48fcae_b.jpg



http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5050/5353584059_65e25c7af6_b.jpg



http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5283/5354195910_67d64f6400_b.jpg



many extras included , space for a swimming pool if need be.



CALL ON 0533 846 2980







To make an appointment if you are interested







thanks







trisha

goingback


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Message Posted:
20/01/2011 15:45

bump it up someone must be interested ?

goingback


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Message Posted:
20/01/2011 18:41

lots of interest and few viewings put an offer in you may be surprised and lucky.

lippylush


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Message Posted:
21/01/2011

LUEM1 message 82 do you not read the messages let me spell it out for you once again. Even if your contract is registered memorandums/charges can still be placed on the property. It has happened to a great many owners including myself and you won't necessarily know there is a memoradum on the property until hopefully you get to the stage of agreement from the landowner/builder to transfer Deeds.

And believe me you have to pay the memorandum otherwise you don't get the Deeds.

So once again I would suggest if anyone is interested in this property at the very least engage an Advoate and ensure they check with Land Registery for possible Memorandums placed on the home, not forgetting that at any time prior to getting the Deeds you are susceptible to any person who might be owed money by the Builder/Landowner placing a memorandum on your home.

juliamoons



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Message Posted:
21/01/2011 02:20

istuartscott@msn.com

goingback


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Message Posted:
21/01/2011 07:03

lippy lush there is no memorandum on it this has been checked by a trnc advocate .



Julia photos sent.

goingback


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Posts: 94

Message Posted:
21/01/2011 15:27

many thanks for the interested emails and calls.still available as of 15.00 kibris time today

cronos


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Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
21/01/2011 16:11

Goingback



I genuinely hope you find a buyer and applaud your realistic attitude and honesty in marketing your property.



However, after the initial stampede of greed it may be that potential buyers are reconsidering as to what constitutes a "bargain "......unfortunately you are trying to sell in a country where confidence in the property market from foreign buyers is virtually zero....for good reasons !



Good luck.

goingback


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Posts: 94

Message Posted:
21/01/2011 18:15

cronos



Many thanks for your comments, things are moving into place to facilitate our return to the uk , if we sell some one will have a bargain, we will be reasonably happy they will be happt as they need noy go through the crap we have had to , if we do not sell that is not a problem we will be able to use it for holidays if we should wish to do so.

goingback


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Posts: 94

Message Posted:
22/01/2011 14:02

move it on up some one may have missed it.

fosterscan


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Posts: 541

Message Posted:
22/01/2011 21:38

What about renting it out while your in the uk if it doesnt sell before you go.

goingback


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Posts: 94

Message Posted:
23/01/2011 08:17

fosterscan,



That is an interesting idea but not a route we would desire to go down' for many and varied reasons that have been discussed on here .



We have a viewing tomorrow, fingers crossed.



We are a little puzzled over 40 requests for details but no feed back from those it has been sent to.



IT HAS BEEN CHECKED THERE ARE NO INCUMBERENCES ON THE KOCHAN .



If we had the kochan in our possession the price would be at least 80k.

ive@karsiyaka



Joined: 24/02/2008
Posts: 169

Message Posted:
23/01/2011 10:59

Dear Sir and ?Madam,



Can you please send details of your property pictures and location please, is the property exchange title?



regards Ivan

ive@karsiyaka



Joined: 24/02/2008
Posts: 169

Message Posted:
23/01/2011 11:00

sorry email is whiteivan8@aol.com

fosterscan


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Posts: 541

Message Posted:
23/01/2011 15:01

Goingback fingers crossed for you maybe some more photos around the outside might help supprised few viewings maybe all interested are not in the trnc

goingback


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Message Posted:
24/01/2011 10:08

here are some more fosterscan



http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5168/5354198312_73fa4d2776_b.jpg



http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5283/5354195910_67d64f6400_b.jpg



ive@karsiyaka info and photos sent.

doggiesteve


Joined: 06/10/2010
Posts: 265

Message Posted:
24/01/2011 19:41

great phots trisha if I were looking to buy I would snap it up . I am sure some one will snap your hand off at 55k.

fosterscan


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Posts: 541

Message Posted:
24/01/2011 20:51

I second that steve if my lotto came up i would buy it .

goingback


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Message Posted:
26/01/2011 08:28

a Turkish Cypriot couple are viewing today, fingers crossed the rain stops the garden and great mountain views do not look their best in the rain.

stevo-london


Joined: 23/10/2010
Posts: 253

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 10:02

is the villa still for sale ?

goingback


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Message Posted:
26/01/2011 10:30

stevo-london yes it is .

stevo-london


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Message Posted:
26/01/2011 11:16

could you please email me your number



steven-compton@windowslive.com

goingback


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Message Posted:
26/01/2011 11:17

more photos on line here http://www.flickr.com/photos/58767944@N02/

stevo-london


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Message Posted:
26/01/2011 11:17

sorry steven-compton@hotmail.com

goingback


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Posts: 94

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 15:13

sent at 15.13 trnc time

nurseawful



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Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 15:18

This is a lovely villa, well decorated clean and tidy inside and out. It must have cost a few bob to do the garden alone. i saw it yesterday and it is a snip at this price. Can't believe it has not sold yet!



Chris

goingback


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Posts: 94

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 17:44

aww thanks chris .

need the pic signing again wrong size despite asking for a passport photo what they gave was a head and shoulders shot , NOT ACCEPTABLE for uk passport, i will be in touch.

nurseawful



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Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 17:56

ok no probs.



Chris

joandjelly


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Posts: 2953

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 18:10

Do you have normal rate electricity in your name please?

goingback


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Message Posted:
26/01/2011 18:17

joandjelly we are well aware of your situation and this villa is not for you . we wish you all the best with your ongoing problems.

joandjelly


Joined: 24/02/2008
Posts: 2953

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 18:38

Have replied to the email you sent me.

goingback


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Posts: 94

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 18:45

as have I , many thanks, no builders rate lecky here or builders rate water , loads of water high pressure as well no tankers in 2010 all water from the bellideire.

goingback


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Posts: 94

Message Posted:
27/01/2011 08:29

back to top someone may not have seen the bargain of the year.



http://www.itv.com/itvplayer/video/?Filter=207939



http://www.flickr.com/photos/58767944@N02/

Danatnorth


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 105

Message Posted:
27/01/2011 11:07

Hello

Ive got the money available but will not be over till May.... If its still for sale then (which i doubt) id be up for taking a look.

goingback


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Message Posted:
27/01/2011 11:10

yesterdays viewers were looking to rent !!



Danatnorth it could well be judging by how it is going thus far.

scrambler


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Message Posted:
28/01/2011 14:06

Hi going back,

Just checking if villa is still for sale,if so can you email some info regarding

location and any additional photos.

goingback


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Posts: 94

Message Posted:
28/01/2011 16:42

scrambler



Still for sale another couple looking to rent today viewed.



PLEASE NOTE THE VILLA IS FOR SALE WE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN RENTING IT OUT !



Many thanks to all for the Genuine enquiries.

goingback


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Message Posted:
28/01/2011 17:15

PHOTOS AND DETAILS SENT AS REQUESTED

suehowlittle


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Posts: 1202

Message Posted:
28/01/2011 20:00

Hi there goingback, have you sold it yet? Can I ask is there an en-suite bedroom downstairs please?

Lilli



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Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
28/01/2011 20:05

Blinking hell goingback, how you cope when they see its for sale and ask to rent.Good luck with it. I only wish we had the money .How long can you hang on as I am telling people in Uk and Europe who still want to look to buy here. Its such a bargain and I really feel for you both. Good luck.

philbailey


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Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
28/01/2011 20:11

realistically without deeds you are effectively renting it anyway surely

goingback


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Message Posted:
28/01/2011 20:16

suehowlittle



yes there is it has an en-suite bedroom downstairs, and No it is not sold yet !!

goingback


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Message Posted:
28/01/2011 20:18

philbailey



deeds will be available once parcelised my hubbys health needs sorting before the end of next year, a girl does have her needs !

philbailey


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Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
28/01/2011 20:20

i hope your husband gets well

janner


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Posts: 80

Message Posted:
28/01/2011 23:10

Cash buyer intrested in this property, is it still for sale?

goingback


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Posts: 94

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 09:04

janner



as of 09.00 kibris time it is still for sale.



details sent via email .

goingback


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Message Posted:
30/01/2011 15:36

any one ?



as of 1600 kibris time it is still for sale.

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
30/01/2011 17:45

Goingback....I'm sorry to hear of your increasing desperation regarding your property sale.



As is often the case there was an initial flurry of interest from those eyeing up a "bargain",but unfortunately confidence in the TRNC property market has sunk so low that even at £55K ( you wouldn't get a lock up garage in London for that ! ) you are still struggling to sell.



Hopefully you'll find a buyer...someone who is willing to take a gamble on the deeds.....but your predicament should be a salutory warning to others who still view the TRNC through rose-tinted specs.

goingback


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Posts: 94

Message Posted:
30/01/2011 17:57

Frustration not desperation



people coming to view seeing it is in goog order and then without making an offer or indicating they wish to purchase asking ....



Is ALL the furniture included ?

doggiesteve


Joined: 06/10/2010
Posts: 265

Message Posted:
31/01/2011 16:35

any luck yet going back ?

doggiesteve


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Posts: 265

Message Posted:
01/02/2011 08:42

thanks for the email going back.



best of luck today.

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
01/02/2011 08:53

I am sorry too goingback. There are always those who will look to take advantage of your situation. Unfortunately you are suffering from the lack of confidence in this corrupt island, both sides, and the failure to address the problems in a joined up and grown up fashion is not helping. They keep trying to stick an

elastoplast on a haemorrahging wound. When will they ever learn - no time soon, I fear. Good luck and God Bless you.

goingback


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Posts: 94

Message Posted:
07/02/2011 12:12

if you want kochan The landowner ( ak tad market) want 20 thousand pounds over and above their contract price with us this is in addition to having had their $25,000 loan with universal bank paid off.

fiendishpaul


Joined: 18/05/2008
Posts: 1720

Message Posted:
07/02/2011 12:35

Goingback



Re message 141



Are you saying that in addition to the £55k purchase price an additional £20k needs to be paid to the landowner in order to secure the kochan ?



Regards



Paul

stevo-london


Joined: 23/10/2010
Posts: 253

Message Posted:
07/02/2011 12:52

so is it mortgaged then or is he just being a p--k?

goingback


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Posts: 94

Message Posted:
07/02/2011 14:04

there is no DEBT OWED TO HIM, but being the honorable person he is he feels 20 k per house over and above what he signed a contract for is ok.

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
07/02/2011 21:43

goingback....msg 144



And isn't that symptomatic of everything that is wrong with the TRNC?



How can a situation exist where there is no legal enforcement to make the builder/developer/landowner hand over the deeds if they don't want to.....even after being paid in full !



"TRNC law is based on English Law"......yes, of course it is !!!!

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
07/02/2011 22:01

It is possible to buy a house without deeds, in fact it is impossible for YOU to get the deeds without Permission to Purchase if you are a foreigner. Look at all the off plan sales, yes the builder/landowner/seller has the

deed to the land, allbeit, they may have borrowed against it before/during of after you bought it, simply because during the time of parting with the cash and you getting PTP, it remained in his/her name. Oh yes, you registered your Contract, well that will not stop a Court Memorandum being put on it if he/she fails to pay

any of his debts. It shouldn't happen, but it does.

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
07/02/2011 22:39

NO DEEDS NO MONEY!





There is no other way!

goingback


Joined: 13/01/2011
Posts: 94

Message Posted:
08/02/2011 07:42

what is available keys to villa irreversible power of attorney and contract .



Behzal. H. NalÇkanoĞlu 03928512706 or 0533 8612706 you can negotiate the knocan price direct he is a ma of his word and an honorable Turkish Cypriot gentleman.

goingback


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Posts: 94

Message Posted:
08/02/2011 11:11

TRNCvictim



Just for you 4 bedroom villa with kochan 75 k how do you wish to proceed ?

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
08/02/2011 11:21

goingback....msg 149



I sense your frustration again !



You have been honest enough to admit that although your villa is only £55K, it will cost someone another £20K to the landowner to get the deeds.



However...there would be no point in YOU getting the deeds and then selling for £75K because deeds in YOUR name are not an automatic guarantee for a potential buyer.

The buyer has to apply for PTP and get the deeds in THEIR name.



Some people think that buying a resale off an ex-pat with deeds is 100% safe....it is not.



Good luck with the sale.....there must be someone out there willing to take a gamble at £55K.

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
08/02/2011 11:57

goingback (mess 149)



Sadly I wouldn't proceed with buying anything whatsoever in the TRNC either with or without a Kocan!



I have already lost to much, to inflict anymore pain on myself!



But at least you have been honest, so the very best of luck with your sale!

goingback


Joined: 13/01/2011
Posts: 94

Message Posted:
08/02/2011 12:11

cronos it may not 20K to the landowner to get the deeds.



The buyer may be a tough negotiator or may have some leverage to persuade Behzal. H. NalÇkanoĞlu that it is a good thing to honor the contract he signed and he has already had extra money ie $25,000 mortgage paid off,

even though the contract said the land should be free of incumberences ! (you can contact him on 03928512706 or 0533 8612706 .



ptp was granted to myself and my husband without any problems.

Musty80


Joined: 08/02/2011
Posts: 9

Message Posted:
08/02/2011 12:59

Hi We are interested in your propery Can you send photos and your mobile number to mustafaderat@yahoo.com

goingback


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Posts: 94

Message Posted:
08/02/2011 15:48

hi musty



sent as requested,



My husband & I would like to thank the members for their kind supportive messages and in the most constructive comments and emails there is a way fopr some one to get a bargain, where there is a will there is a way.

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
08/02/2011 16:08

I believe that goingback is one of the few honest sellers in north Cyprus, they are selling at a price that reflects their situation. If you buy from an expat returning to the UK who is using the cash from the sale to buy a house there it might be possible to place an encumbance on that UK property to the value of the villa, removed when deeds are issued. Tricky. At the worse the UK house would have to be sold and money and villa returned. Just thinking about ways that expats might get round the no kocan no money problem.

goingback


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Posts: 94

Message Posted:
08/02/2011 17:51

malsancak



Irrevocable Power of Attorney, the keys and the contract is the way forward with our situation, thanks for the kind comments.

goingback


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Posts: 94

Message Posted:
09/02/2011 06:38

bump some one missed this.

goingback


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Message Posted:
09/02/2011 18:19

4 bedroom villa clean deeds kochan available 75 k 20k discount if you do not want kochan.

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
09/02/2011 22:48

who wants a Kocan ?? (mess 158)............



bit like buying a stolen car and getting yer mate to knock up a log book for you and then professing to have legit title to it.........



take two steps back - there are plenty of folk with a few quid in the TRNC - it the place represented a bargain investment - it would have sold the first day..............





just my ten pennyworth........





Long live Garry Monger's missus..............

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
09/02/2011 23:27

almost 7,000 views and no sale........



i rest my case..............









long live - oh i'm too tired (its tomorrow here already....)

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
10/02/2011 14:41

If anyone is genuinely interested in this property I would suggest it may be better of taking up the offer of £75K to INCLUDE clean deeds.



The reason being that the honourable gentleman who is wanting another £20K for the deeds may suddenly decide that the new "owners" look quite well off so he'd now like £30K, or £40K, or £50K......etc



The fine,upstanding TRNC "legal" sytem would obviously support him fully in this course of action !

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
10/02/2011 18:09

Message 155.

You cannot be serious! What planet are you from?

So when you sell your villa, what are people going to do put a charge on your caravan,lol.?

Thats if the Greek Cypriot doesn't come and claim it first.

goingback


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Posts: 94

Message Posted:
10/02/2011 20:16

NICE VILLA quiet area not overlooked in good stte of repair brilliant views .

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
11/02/2011 09:28

If someone buys goingback's property without its Kocan, they could put a charge on it equal to or above its value with a Kocan, then if anyone looks to put anything on it, by way of a court memorandum by a creditor of the existing name on the Kocan, they will find a Contract lodged and a charge and will realise they are wasting their time. Third in line!!! IN any event the new purchaser is first and second creditor on their own property/

pretty safe, except from a Greek..........which also include us all who have bought on fromer Greek land.

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
11/02/2011 10:02

Polly...msg 164



I may be mistaken but my understanding was that you could only put your own charge on the property you are buying WITH THE CONSENT OF THE CURRENT DEED OWNER ie builder/developer/landowner etc.



Most of them are reluctant to let you do this...for obvious reasons....because then it is no longer a useable asset of theirs !

goingback


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Posts: 94

Message Posted:
11/02/2011 14:36

still for sale with:Irrevocable Power of Attorney, the keys and the stamped contract .

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
11/02/2011 14:44

blade, not that sharp, msg 162 - read what I've written instead of referring to my irrelevant personal situation

"If you buy from an expat returning to the UK who is using the cash from the sale to buy a house there..."

pollymarples


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Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
11/02/2011 18:09

You are right cronos, you would need the agreement of the person named on the kocan at present, that could be the fly in the ointment, be worth goingback making enquiries of him/her., worth a try.

goingback


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Posts: 94

Message Posted:
11/02/2011 18:21

no agreement of the person named on the kocan at present fop me to give Irrevocable Power of Attorney to some one, this has been checked and is 100% kosher

goingback


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Posts: 94

Message Posted:
12/02/2011 16:13

Great feedback from the lovely couple who viewed today.



WHERE THERE IS A WILL there is a way.

Lilli



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Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
12/02/2011 16:39

i do hope so for you both

sylvie


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Message Posted:
15/02/2011 16:49

Going back i have sent you an e-mail with our phone number - friend - TC would like to visit your house asap -

goingback


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Message Posted:
15/02/2011 17:41

replied ...........................................................

Ballyboffin


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Posts: 903

Message Posted:
01/03/2011 21:38

goingback,



Sorry, haven't been on here for a while. If you haven't sold, there is no hope for anyone selling. I really hope you found a buyer and not a lot of timewasters.



Pat X

doggiesteve


Joined: 06/10/2010
Posts: 265

Message Posted:
01/03/2011 22:52

amazing how ,many people have shown an interest then asked "" HAVE YOU GOT THE KOCHAN " ?

Sayit


Joined: 15/10/2010
Posts: 47

Message Posted:
01/03/2011 23:11

Why risk your hard earned money, where there is no guarantie to get the KOÇAN? I don't blame anyone who is not interested to buy and no matter how cheap it is. If you ask me I wouldn't risk it.

goingback


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Posts: 94

Message Posted:
02/03/2011 07:12

WHY is there a risk sayit ? kochan is there available !



and free of any incumberance.









better still can the thread be closed as no one else will be viewing .

goingback


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Message Posted:
02/03/2011 07:16

thanks doggie but you were told not reply on here!

Sayit


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Message Posted:
02/03/2011 21:54

If you can't get the "KOÇAN" yourself, how can any other fool will be able to get it? GET IT?

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
02/03/2011 22:04

This thread is now closed.



Reason: By request of the thread originator.