Being Gay and living in Northern Cyprus

gudgirl


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 10

Message Posted:
11/09/2008 14:04

Hello, as a married lesbian couple about to move out to Northern Cypris, can anyone advise me what the law and peoples reactions are going to be like towards us, we have never been to N.C. before and are a little nervous.

Izzet



Joined: 01/12/2006
Posts: 920

Message Posted:
11/09/2008 14:07

I don't think there will be negative reactions towards lesbian couples.

If it was male couple, you might not want to publicly tell it, but I feel the reaction for female couples is less.



i fully respect sexual preferences of people, but hey i was in states for 4 years..



may i ask how you decided to move to north cyprus without coming here first?

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
11/09/2008 15:16

I detect a wind-up.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
11/09/2008 15:20

Live and let live.

gudgirl


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 10

Message Posted:
11/09/2008 15:22

we just fancied a change, we've been to Southern Cyprus before and fancied trying Northern and have decided the prices are good there and are out on an inspection trip in 3 weeks with the hope of buying and moving asap!

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
11/09/2008 16:11

gudgirl



S Cyprus is basically 'Christian', N Cyprus basically 'Muslim'.



As far as I know, Islam is as tolerant of sexuality as Christianity. (anyone please correct me if I'm wrong). They obviously tolerate Alcohol, forbidden foods etc., and we have always found N Cypriots to be very ready to understand those of different faiths etc.



You may actually be at an advantage as most people you have business discussions with will probably be male.



It's well known that us males are happy to deal with one woman,...



but with two,...



we can't cope!



Best wishes, it's a lovely country!





rob

gudgirl


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 10

Message Posted:
11/09/2008 16:33

seriously, its not a wind up-wanted to know what to be prepared for!

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
11/09/2008 16:59

hi

there is nothing wrong with being very happy in north cyprus!!!!!! lol

rob not that im actually trying to coorect you the islam faith is against same sex relationships

even thou north cypriots are muslim the vast majority are not strict followers espeacially the younger generation

gud girl you have no worries i know a few gays who live in the villages and they dont get no greif, a word of advice thou and im not trying to sound like a prude as long as you are conservitive in your manner you wil have no problems like being frowned upon by the olders at the end of the day your sexuality either a butch or lipstick does not determine if you are a bad person or not

good luck on your inspection trip and now is a good time to buy its defo a buyers market

ukturk

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
11/09/2008 17:15

ukturk



I think we're singing from the same Hymn sheet! (even though I'm an Atheist!)



Both Christianity and Islam are theoretically against same sex relationships, but their ideologies are being outdated by society and they are having to adapt.



gudgirl, being an Atheist, I have to be 'conservative' at times, but I still like a good wedding. (as long as I'm not paying for it!).



p.s. Don't buy 'off-plan', buy something completed! If you are interested in anything you see, don't make a quick descision, go home, think about it, post your thoughts on here.



There's a lot of peeps on here who can give good advice, even me at times!





rob

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
11/09/2008 20:16

gudgirl,



Put a shout out for Paul Gibson on the TRNC Villa Owners BB and he'll fill you in on the scene in N Cyprus.

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
11/09/2008 22:35

Stand to be corrected but homo-sexuality is still an offence here with heavy penalties.



That said we are friends with a couple who as previous post states, remain conservative and nobody will be bothered.

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
11/09/2008 22:48

Ah but fall out with your builder or other 'friend for life TC' who knows what would happen.

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
11/09/2008 23:12

Until 1st January 2009 (or so it is planned) homosexuality is illegal in North Cyprus.



Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_laws_of_the_world

no1doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
11/09/2008 23:22

Best to wait until the 1st January then.

Treesy


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 406

Message Posted:
11/09/2008 23:48

Rob,



Christianity might be willing to change their 'rules' to fit the changing society but I can assure you Islam is not 'adapting'. Homosexuality is forbidden in Islam and the Qur'an is very clear about it.



But saying that most Muslims are tolerant of other faiths and people- it is not for us to judge - that is for Allah. Here in North Cyprus the Muslim faith is not practiced by many and I am sure that if Gudgirl and her partner act modestly they will have a very warm welcome here.



I wish them good luck in their inspection trip and Insh'Allah (God willing) they will find somewhere to live where they can be happy.

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
12/09/2008 00:33

Perhaps they're not really gay.



Maybe they just help out when they're a bit short handed.



Lem

Ralph96



Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 531

Message Posted:
12/09/2008 04:50

Lemtich your right.....i'm the only gay in the village.

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
12/09/2008 09:23

pushed ,i believe is the turkish word. used in our village as an insult. my hubby is always kissing our shop keeper, its a shock tatic to those who don't kow the joke.



we have loads of gay friends in the uk, i think as long as you keep it low key and tell the locals you are sisters or friends nobody will question that.



kissing in public is frowned upon by tc's ,in even straight or married relationships. unless it is on the cheek as a welcome.

stellasstar1



Joined: 02/07/2008
Posts: 1519

Message Posted:
12/09/2008 11:07

Having lived with a gay couple in England for a while and having lot's of gay friends in England, I have never been able, to understand why some people have a problem with gay people - BUT - I now live with a Cypriot here, and he and his family and his friends do not like or understand gay people. I was very surprised at their attitude, butn they were equally surprised at mine. So yes, keep it low key. When my partner kisses me or I kiss him in public, I can see he is also checking to see if anyone is watching, even in our own garden.

Elliecy


Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 153

Message Posted:
12/09/2008 11:20

I have twice been in a bar (one in Girne and 1 in Nicosia) where there was a lesbian couple and nobody took any notice. Admittedly it was a younger crowd, but I did not sense any animosity. I'm sure that you will be ok and wish you luck with the purchase (and the move) should you go ahead.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
12/09/2008 11:20

RE gudgirl : (...) , as a married lesbian couple about to move out to Northern Cypris (...)



===> You may remain low profile lesbians in Northern Cyprus, but you will certainly not be "a married couple" for the TRNC law. Tell your lawyer and ask him for the legal consequences before you sign any document as - what you *think* you are! - "a married couple".

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
12/09/2008 12:45

I believe there is a bar run by 2 very happy ladies near the G a u its on the right i believe L D S bar.

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
12/09/2008 12:46

Treesy: "Homosexuality is forbidden in Islam and the Qur'an is very clear about it."



Better not tell that to the Turkish army.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
12/09/2008 12:51

That was below the belt John!

gudgirl


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 10

Message Posted:
12/09/2008 12:58

Hey guys,

Thanks for your mainly positive feedback, keep it coming!

Nige, wheres that bar? will pay it a visit when i'm out there.

Interesting reading.

x

lippylou


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 13

Message Posted:
12/09/2008 13:01

Hey Gud Girl,

Don't worry be happy!!! Live and let live!

If you find out about a bar let me know, gay bars are always good fun!

laterz

Nastynipper


Joined: 08/06/2008
Posts: 171

Message Posted:
12/09/2008 13:07

If you go to lapta there is loads of "spare pussy" in the Cactus bar

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
12/09/2008 14:41

pike

grow up!!!!!! msg 23

what the hell is being gay and being accepted by north cypriot muslims and in the quran got to do with the turkish army!!!!!!! again you are trying to have your two bit say on a subject that has no relavance to what you are saying if you cant keep your comments to the appropiate subject it will be removed!!!!

maybe you should read the quran so you can learn about respecting your fellow man and woman



back to the subject at hand gud girl good luck on your quest and like i said as long as you dont go shouting it off the roof tops you will be fine so need to be paranoid!!!!

regards

ukturk

Lambousa Gordon


Joined: 03/11/2007
Posts: 1992

Message Posted:
12/09/2008 14:58

Back to the point:



There are many gay and lesbian people living in the TRNC. You should be able to ascertain from them whether they consider it tolerant enough.

ginger


Joined: 29/08/2008
Posts: 10

Message Posted:
12/09/2008 17:06

gudgirl

let me know when you are 'out' and i'd be happy to show you around

dusterbruce


Joined: 03/08/2007
Posts: 1125

Message Posted:
12/09/2008 17:42

My experience has always been that not only is it tolerated its almost compulsory!!!

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
12/09/2008 18:06

UKturk: "pike grow up!!!!!! msg 23 what the hell is being gay and being accepted by north cypriot muslims and in the quran got to do with the turkish army!!!!!!!



Come off it. If you had ever served in a military or uniformed same-sex organisation you would know homosexuality is just as much a part of life as anywhere else. The subject is about gay life in the TRNC. Are you trying to say 45,000 young Turkish men in are all straight?



BTW, Ataturk was an interesting guy, wasn't he?

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
12/09/2008 21:25

pike

i cant comment about knowing the gay scene in the army because i have never served in the army or in any uniformed organisation, but i do read and watch reports in places like the army even thou it might be part of life but internally it is still frowned upon even in the british army where even thou they had their first gay marriage in 2006 there has been reported bashings off gays which has resulted in many sucides

im not doubting the fact there are not gays among the 45,000 young turks and that also serve in the turkish army but belive you me they dont have same sex marriages or go out shouting it out skipping down the road hand in hand singing y.m.c.a!!



so the subject of gay life in the trnc is even thou there are many gays and gay couples male or female in the north it is still a taboo subject especially among the old in the villiagesso gudgirl like gordon has mentioned once you are in cyprus you can judge for yourself from other gays in the community how they are percived



btw pike i know what angle you are trying to come in on with Ataturk, of all your reading of greek propagnada i would think twice before you elaborate on your comments

ukturk

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
12/09/2008 22:40

hi guys

the only thing i can say on the subject is ,that it is well written that homesexuality was in fashion with the greeks and they openly had gay relationships ,older more affluent men had younger guys as trophies.

so you could say its another invention by the greeks . greek armies ,not a problem we are all human .



campbell thomas my guess is you do not reside in the kktc ,and if by some remote chance you do ...you are in the wrong country.

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
12/09/2008 23:29

ukturk,



Just messing about the big man, don't worry. I don't fall for any side's propaganda. It's my job to analyse both sides' bull**** and you can spot it a mile off. As for the army itself obviously certain things will be tolerated if it's kept out of view. One of my TC friends told me the TR military have a well known expression: "f*** me like a general" which does hint at something a little racy.

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
12/09/2008 23:41

Musin: "...you do not reside in the kktc ,and if by some remote chance you do ...you are in the wrong country."



I'm willing to travel if you're game. ;)

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
13/09/2008 00:18

pike

im not worried and you messing about could offend quite a few people on this forum aswell as your tc friends

im glad you do your job properly and can spot bull and yes any army and uniformed service it is more of a case of see no evil hear no evil mentlity,

thats quite a funny expression its translated more like you are f..... me over like a general its like stiching me up or putting one over me or if you dont translate it right it can sound a bit racy

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
13/09/2008 00:21

i am always game mate. i am a turkish cypriot ,i back down to no one only god

i will be in cyprus some time in the next few months .

ill be in touch then ,promise you i am game ,unless you can,t wait ,you can meet me in london.

long live the kktc

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
13/09/2008 00:28

oh by the way mr thomas your remarks about ataturk are an arrestable offence in my country which you claim to reside, but then you are just a big fat liar'.

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
13/09/2008 01:12

If he was living in Turkey making those remarks he would be put

on the next plane home.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
13/09/2008 01:29

Can we but him a ticket to Turkey then,in my opinion he really is a revolting person who is so full of his own importance he is incapable of showing respect to anyone or anything. I find his remarks offensive and I am not a Turkish Cypriot, having a different opinion is one thing but constantly twisting things in his distinctly repulsive way is not acceptable to normal human beings and is sickening, how much longer do we have to tolerate this.

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
13/09/2008 01:34

Musin..."i am a turkish cypriot ,i back down to no one only god....unless you can,t wait ,you can meet me in london."



You do yourself no favours by making such stupid remarks. If you're so brave go tell it to the Greek Cypriot community in London. I'm sure they will let you know, that with remarks like that, they will give you a severe beating or even kill you.



"your remarks about ataturk are an arrestable offence in my country"



You are in the UK not the TRNC and therefore cannot claim it as your home. It is not an arrestable offence in the UK. Wherever you live that is your country.



With your attitiute, and others like you, Turkey and the TRNC will never be able to join the EU or be classed as anything more than regligious fundamentalists. Next time you have a problem with Greece, don't come running to the rest of the world for help, as we will be behind Greece.



The world doesn't need people like you stopping integration of the peoples. Live with your fellow man, for he is equal to you. If you persist with your bullying attitute in life then one day you will meet a bully who is bigger than you, then where is your god then? Oh, I forgot. When you die it is because your god said it is time to do so. (When will people stop reading books that were written to control them and stop them from causing trouble!)



And by the way, apart from Ataturk having several men to make love to, he drank heavily and was p***ed out of his skull most of the time and died of an alcohol related disease. He also had people put to death who didn't agree with him and the way he did things. Ask your beloved London Mayor Boris Johnson as one of his family was executed on the orders of Ataturk. And you claim the sun shines out of this mans arse! NO IT DOESN'T. Only food waste matter comes out of it. He was just your average dictator who was in the right place at the right time.

Yes all the above can have me put to death in Turkey.....and it wants to be Western Society! No chance! You can't have the best bits of a Western Society and keep out the bits you don't like. It's warts and all!

Turbo


Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 833

Message Posted:
13/09/2008 06:03

Gudgilr, Cyprus has come a long way, it used to be very anti gay, with each year I see attitudes changing, I live in Hollywood, where i have seen almost anything that can be seen or done, our military policy is "Dont ask, dont tell".

As long as you don't go around blatantly flaunting your lifestyle everything will be great.

You will always have the village mentality with some people, its just the way they are brought up , the new generation is a different story, you will have a great time.

There used to be a gay bar at one time in Girne behind the mosque in the harbour (came across it by accident ) had a great time, I think it was called the Birdcage or Shamrock( dont qoute me on that , not sure) that was quite a while ago,it was very full of locals, mostly Greek Cyrpiots, and tourists

In the Cyprus mentality it is (or used to be) considered a disgrace to have a gay family member, its the whole gossip and idle chatter that does the most damage.

I know for a fact that there are several establishments that are lesbian/gay owned, no one bats an eye lid.

Enjoy your new life and dont let anyone rain on your parade.

delonghi


Joined: 13/09/2008
Posts: 30

Message Posted:
13/09/2008 12:08

With your attitiute, and others like you, Turkey and the TRNC will never be able to join the EU or be classed as anything more than regligious fundamentalists. Next time you have a problem with Greece, don't come running to the rest of the world for help, as we will be behind Greece.



And you live in TNRC? Shame on you.



The world doesn't need people like you stopping integration of the peoples. Live with your fellow man, for he is equal to you. If you persist with your bullying attitute in life then one day you will meet a bully who is bigger than you, then where is your god then? Oh, I forgot. When you die it is because your god said it is time to do so. (When will people stop reading books that were written to control them and stop them from causing trouble!)



So stop reading them Tim. They are never gonna help you. Live and let live, enjoy life.





And by the way, apart from Ataturk having several men to make love to, he drank heavily and was p***ed out of his skull most of the time and died of an alcohol related disease. He also had people put to death who didn't agree with him and the way he did things. Ask your beloved London Mayor Boris Johnson as one of his family was executed on the orders of Ataturk. And you claim the sun shines out of this mans arse! NO IT DOESN'T. Only food waste matter comes out of it. He was just your average dictator who was in the right place at the right time.



Yes all the above can have me put to death in Turkey.....and it wants to be Western Society! No chance! You can't have the best bits of a Western Society and keep out the bits you don't like. It's warts and all!

Lambousa Gordon


Joined: 03/11/2007
Posts: 1992

Message Posted:
13/09/2008 14:16

Yet again, back to the point of the original message.



Have just bumped into a couple of girls who said that they don't find the TRNC particularly intolerant.



That said, should you wish to discuss this with other G&L persons then they mentioned that a few of the bars in the streets behind the harbour have a clientele which includes a fair proportion of G&L folk.

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
13/09/2008 15:43

msg 42

fristly someone asks a question about gay relationships in the kktc and then you get a couple of big p....s turn it around and somehow call our armies gay ,our people and our great leader ataturk.i believe in god yes explain how this makes me an extremist or are you refering to islam ,i have been married to a catholic for 32 years ,you big piece of s..t ,don,t bring religion into it .

greeks in london will beat me or even kill me ,they don,t have the balls they have had plenty of chances ,hey i,m still in one piece.

turks out number the greeks 4 to 1 where i live.

you won,t come runing to our aid next time you will be on the greeks side.

you big piece of s..t.

now why don,t you go down too girne town centre go up to a turk and tell him

what you so braverly told me on this board about our beloved leader ataturk .

you big piece of s..t .

if i ever come face too face withyou and god willing i will, i will knock you out for your remarks about ataturk guaranteed or your money back .

you big piece of s..t.



i want to apologize to the rest of the forum and izzet about my language

in advance ,and no offence is meant to anyone except a few people who continue to rubbish my county ,its goverment ,its people and now the last

straw our leader atturk.



ps i wait to hear what happens when you go to girne and make known your beliefs about atturk,you big piece of shit.



musin

long live the kktc

and all who love her.

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
13/09/2008 15:55

sorry to go of subject again

tim

pike nearly crossed the line but showed he has a bit of repsect!!!!!

where you have totally gone over the line with your comments aswell as being a hypocite



firstly you say to musin about his stupid remarks will do him no favours, then you come out with remarks telling him to go and say he does not fear anyone but god to the greek community that in turn they will give him a beating or even kill you thats being very childish!!!! and why will they beat because of what reason!!!!!

again what are you on!!! to say if turkey or n cyprus has any problems with greece not to go and run to the rest of the world and the world is behind greece!!! when you say we does that mean you represent the view of the world!!

how can you take the morale high ground telling people about their bullying attitude when you have just come accross like that in your post you have tried to demine turkey, north cypriots and their religion anything else you want to add to your offensive views!!!! just because someone follows a book on religion and you dont agree with them does that make you a better person??

it just shows that you hold the turkish cypriots in such high regard



you should really learn your facts before you write your posts firstly borris johnson's great grand father ali kemal was not murdered on attaturks orders he was not in power when he was killed in 1922 by general nureddin and if you must know he was accused of being a traitor and was going to be tried for treason before he was killed!!!!

i find your comments offensive and you really should be carefull what you say and about a man who liberated turkey and drove the invading british-french-italians and greeks out of turkey and this is coming from you a man who lived in the country with these people, you should have some sort respect on who they follow and their beliefs and them as people!!!!

you could face a lengthy prison sentance for your comments thats if you survive the term, again learn your facts!!! turkey does live in a Western Society and the death sentance was abbolished over 40 years ago!!!

i really dont know where you get your info from!!!! and if you do know anything a country that is living in a western society that commits treason it is punnishable i.e the u.k if you deface the queen!!!

you really must have a great insight into attaturk aswell as his personal life to know all the stuff you are posting!!! but on the other hand like the other mis info you have wrote i hardly much doubt it!!!!

and if you would like to carry on with this subject start a new thread to make your feelings known and im sure you will get a response

my final words are Practice what you Preach

ukturk



p.s gudgirl im so sorry you have to witness some childish comments from some of our older generation members when all you asked was a simple question again good luck on your quest and if you need any more info or help please dont hesitate in asking im sure you will get a straight answer from one of us!!! (sorry for the pun!!!! lol)

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
13/09/2008 16:30

musin

i tottally agree with you and your comments and i understand where you are coming from, but for you to lower yourself to this immature, mis-informed, disrespectfull poor excuse for a person is not needed thats the swearing im talking about!!!!

its expats like this that let down the rest of the respectfull expats living in north cyprus then these people wonder why the brits have such bad reputation wherever they go and then they complain that the foreign people living in the u.k dont respect them and the country

Two faced is what i say!!!!

so how ever mad you are and belive you me i know because im feeling the same try to refrain from swearing and like you said if he ever had the front to say this to any turk wherever turkey - north cyprus or even the u.k he will soon know he made the wrong mistake in his caveman comments

ukturk

kiwikid


Joined: 18/08/2008
Posts: 496

Message Posted:
13/09/2008 17:31

Tim wrote: You are in the UK not the TRNC and therefore cannot claim it as your home. It is not an arrestable offence in the UK. Wherever you live that is your country.



What a load of rubbish!! are you saying that all the ex-pats that live here can longer call the UK home and that Cyprus is "Their" country.

I have lived here for 14 years but still call New Zealand "Home" and it will Always be my country. When I do go back to NZ I talk about Cyprus as being Home. Like saying goes Home is where the heart is. Who are you to tell a person where their Home is or where they can call their country.

Your attack of Ataturk was well out of order, you really need to dust off the history books if you have to bring up slander about his drinking, he was a great man who did so much for his country. And i personally have a hugh amount of respect for this man.

Musim I'm with you TRNC forever!!!



Gud girl I will send you a private message with contact details of a lovely couple that live here. They will be able to answer your question and help you out

Angela

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
13/09/2008 17:49

ertan

i apologize for the swearing ,i know its wrong even when i,m writing it ,but when a simple question is asked and it diversifies into what certain members of this forum do best is to have a go at the turkish and all we stand for, it some what irates me more than normal becouse these things should only be said face too face ,why live in a country where you disrespect its people and and all that she stands for.

or maybe he can,t cut it here in britain anymore.

how classic was that about the greeks and turks in britain ,bring back memories ,it does to me ,prehaps if i ever meet him i will give him a spoon

,just as an instrument of aid you understand.



musin

long live the kktc.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
13/09/2008 20:16

Get that horrible piece of filth Pike of this board please.



He has disrespected yout people enough now.

chick


Joined: 02/07/2008
Posts: 323

Message Posted:
13/09/2008 20:30

Message 42.

I had to read the posting twice I could not believe what I was reading. I think you owe Musin and every Turk and T/Cypriot an apology.



As for Boris Johnson forefathers you obviously watched "Who do you think you are".

You say we will be behind Greece, WHO ARE WE!!!!!!!!!!!!.

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
13/09/2008 21:11

musin

its not etan its ERKAN lol

i showed some people the comments made by tim and they all could not belive it and responses varied from where can we find this bloke to ban him from the forum (which i say), and also they are disgusted aswell as me how a vistor to the country who has/had a house can have not a ounce of respect in his body towards t.c's while living there and if im not mistaken he not so long ago left north cyprus so that says it all!!!!!

tiggy even thou a lot of people disagree with pike's views and find him one sided, but he realised he made a mistake (not that he would admit it) and stopped in his tracks!!!!

where TIM just came out with his outburst because musin said he only backs down to god and he prob thought he would try to impress pike that he can hide behind a keyboard and try and act the big man with his big words

lets just hope that many more members read the comments he made and lets see how he will be viewed on this forum by other members

ukturk

kiwikid


Joined: 18/08/2008
Posts: 496

Message Posted:
13/09/2008 21:40

I showed it to a couple of TC friends, I can't repeat what they said as I have respect for the forums rules on bad language.

One was ready to go to the police with his information.

But as I have since read TIM has now left the island there is no point, I hope he stays where ever he has gone. But a question where will he call HOME???

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
13/09/2008 22:00

Musin, Hattikins,Tiggy,



As I said many times, after this site became infected with undesireables banned from other B/Bs...



Be on good terms with all persons. even the dull and ignorant, they too have their stories!



or do as MarkVPiazza advises.......Don't feed the Trolls......... When will they ever learn?



wyn

Nastynipper


Joined: 08/06/2008
Posts: 171

Message Posted:
13/09/2008 22:02

MarkVPiazza advises Don't feed the Trolls..............





OOPs he is a troll some would say.

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
13/09/2008 22:19

Ukturk,



Yet again I smell the stench of Scaramanga or Campbell Thomas or Eric Seans or



PvtPike or Rifleman Thomas or Miss Tidio ......or Suzanne or SlipperI or RandyMandy..



or............?



Spot the modus operandi? We can't all be wrong!



wyn

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
13/09/2008 22:43

Whatever, Mr Pizza is a nasty piece of work on his own BB. State what you think about something he has strong opinions on and you are banned, suspended or worse moderated!!!!!!!



So no wyn, from experience, if you consider him a role model then you are sadly deluded, sorry.



He also has a long history of recommending products on BB without telling people he works for said company. Since he was caught out that seems to have ceased.



Modus operandi, sorry wyn you are no Ironside, Wexford or CSI. So in your own interests just stop trying to put down others you have a grudge against, everyone has freedom to post on this BB like it or not!!

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
13/09/2008 22:52

CIH,



I made my point on message 56! It is for that reason I have avoided the many NEGATIVE

postings on this board. Frankly I found them depressing, an opinion felt by many posters who

have Emailed me off board! Sad isn't it!



wyn

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
13/09/2008 23:07

I assume you mean negative in your opinion!!!???????



Many more of us keep an open mind and do not e-mail you.

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
13/09/2008 23:15

hi erkan

once again i have to apologize to you this time for getting your name wrong,

i was always taught "respect is the key that opens many doors, its a shame

we have lost the key these days.



kind regards

musin

long live the kktc

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
14/09/2008 11:58

Phylray: "If he was living in Turkey making those remarks he would be put on the next plane home."



Along with people who tell porkies about their professional qualifications and status, perhaps?

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
14/09/2008 12:06

Tell us all what yours are then.

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
14/09/2008 12:07

Tiggy: "Get that horrible piece of filth Pike of this board please. He has disrespected yout people enough now."



Says the man who describes himself as a "virgin convertor". You show plenty of respect for women, don't you?

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
14/09/2008 12:11

Tiggy: "Tell us all what yours are then."



MSc, MCIJ, GTF



I won't ask for yours as I believe every man is owed his dignity.

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
14/09/2008 12:16

Mr Campbell,



From what I read, you respect no mans dignity. Hence all the adverse comments against you.



wyn

Elliecy


Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 153

Message Posted:
14/09/2008 12:16

I think its a shame that this topic has again gone off at a tangent. Once again a few people have turned a simple question in to a slanging match. If I were this couple looking to move here, I would seriously reconsider and that is not because of the views about being gay, but because of the views of some awful people that seem to reside here! They cannot even be pleasant enough to tolerate someone else's views, religion or anything else, let alone be open-minded enough to have a sensible view about gay people.

Gudgirl, I hope you can see the positive comments on this board and ignore the other more ignorant people who just use this an an opportunity to be hurtful to others.

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
14/09/2008 12:45

When are the Moderators going to do what they said they would do - that is BAN members who persist in swearing, and also making offensive rematks directed specifically at other members?



I've lost count of the number of times on this thread that direct personal insults have been made, including swearing. Also, according to Izzet's guidelines, you are not supposed to deviate from the subject as stated in the first post of the thread.



Was it all just hot air?

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
14/09/2008 13:05

To the couple who asked the question in the first place, as long as you conduct yourselves in an appropriate manner then your sexuality will not be a problem in TRNC, this applies to people of every sexual orientation.The Turkish Cypriot people are kind, polite and tolerant and if treated in the same manner will always help.

To the people who have shown such disrespect to the religion of the country you are either living in or visiting, and likewise to their highly regarded Ataturk, you have shown yourselves to be totally lacking in thought for your fellow man. Religion is a very personal thing, to some people it, s the very core of their existence yet you think you have the right to question that in an aggressive and insulting manner.

If my memory serves me correctly the two main culprits are self confessed atheists, could that be because they cannot accept that there is a being greater than themselves, of whatever faith.

One of these people has returned to the UK, for a variety of reasons, one of which was the size of potatoes, I believe he moved somewhere near to the Moss Side area so I hope he can show a little more tolerance there.

The other one , I can only hope that his limited intellect is fulfilled by his constant bigoted remarks and that as a responsible parent he raises his children to be more open minded than himself.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
14/09/2008 14:21

Who says I converted women, you stupid numpty. So you know my sexual preference do you????? Again assuming things and getting them wrong!



Unlike you I do not hide behind several stupid ID's or disrespect the people of NC.



You are in your warped mind, a "jack" of all trades and truly a "master" of none.



The amount of good forum users that have risen to your stupid bullying tactics just goes to show you, the sad little man/women you are.

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
14/09/2008 21:26

Gudgirl,



Whatever your sexual preferences, in my opinion if it does not affect, the laws of the country

or the sensibilities of your hosts, then do your own thing!



Good luck to you.



wyn

MICK THE FISH


Joined: 27/05/2008
Posts: 180

Message Posted:
14/09/2008 21:57

Message 66 from Pte Pikes qualifications:



MSc, MCIJ, GTF



Whats a GTF Pikey?



Get to F*** ?

gudgirl


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 10

Message Posted:
15/09/2008 12:00

Oh my god!!

From one simple question comes world war 3, i'm sorry i asked!

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
15/09/2008 12:53

welcome to cyprus.

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
15/09/2008 14:19

Hi all,



Oh what a gay day!



wyn

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
15/09/2008 16:46

Les miserables..........nay gay

Casablanca


Joined: 16/09/2008
Posts: 32

Message Posted:
16/09/2008 18:53

Casablanca Club is in the town centre and is a venue for gays and str8s who like gay company. The easiest way to find us is go to the Old Harbour, and go up the steps between Cafe34 and The Carob Restaurant, go to the left past the Atlantis Hotel, at the tope of the street turn right, The Casablanca Club is in front of you...hope to see you there soon...open from 8pm...closed Mondays..the only Gay Bar in the Village!

Best regards Stephan

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
16/09/2008 18:55

Hi stephen , welcome to the forum , which village are you talking of ?

regards , simbas

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
16/09/2008 19:04

http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/5538.asp



see the link

dusterbruce


Joined: 03/08/2007
Posts: 1125

Message Posted:
16/09/2008 19:52

Nigel



What in your mind is the connection between a gay bar in Kyrenia and mad Labour party ideas about sex education in UK schools?

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
16/09/2008 20:21

db

dont mind nige its called getting old and he is just having his victor meldrew moment!!!! lol lol (only joking nige)



saying that db have you looked on the previous messages to this thread so having a connection dont make a blind bit of diffrence!!!! lol

ukturk

dusterbruce


Joined: 03/08/2007
Posts: 1125

Message Posted:
16/09/2008 20:25

This is true Erkan, so many discussions go off on a tangent!

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
16/09/2008 20:32

db there might be one........ reds in the bed ? hey what do i know i am a closet hetro, s & m , m& s as da acdc what the heck lets go the whole hofg and do d e b en ha ms

gudgirl


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 10

Message Posted:
17/09/2008 14:40

So which town is Casablanca in? thanks

markvpiazza


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 530

Message Posted:
17/09/2008 17:09

http://www.zmag.org/znet/viewArticle/18843





Quote

The only territory under Turkish control where homosexuality is banned is northern Cyprus, where British anti-sodomy laws were incorporated into the Cypriot and, later, the Turkish Republic of Cyprus penal code.



Mark

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
17/09/2008 17:25

best to stay in the closet then!

JimmyG


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 900

Message Posted:
17/09/2008 18:45

gudgirl - Casablanca's directions are from the old harbour in Kyrenia

Casablanca


Joined: 16/09/2008
Posts: 32

Message Posted:
17/09/2008 21:07

Kyrenia of course....sorry, forgot to mention this minor detail!

Casablanca


Joined: 16/09/2008
Posts: 32

Message Posted:
17/09/2008 21:07

The Casablanca is in Kyrenia...and its Stephan (as in Stefan)...thanks!

Casablanca


Joined: 16/09/2008
Posts: 32

Message Posted:
18/09/2008 12:08

Hi there...the Casablanca is near to the old bazar in the centre of Kyrenia called Bandabulia...at the back of there when you stand with your back to the bazar there is a small street to your left with a Kibet market on the corner... you will see the red and green Casablanca sign from the top of the street...OR go to the old harbour, go up the steps between cafe34 and carob ...go to the left and at the top of the street turn right, Caslablanca is in front of you...OPEN EVERY NIGHT FROM 8..CLOSED MONDAYS...

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
18/09/2008 15:25

sorry stephan

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
20/09/2008 13:14

gudgirl

do you live in the colchester area of the uk? does your dad work in airtraffic controls?

gudgirl


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 10

Message Posted:
29/10/2008 13:52

hello, not far from colchester but no to the dad question.

cyprusman3



Joined: 09/06/2009
Posts: 297

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 09:44

gay doesnt mean that much any more in nc, loads of gay people here theres gay bars like "cream" where many straight people go too.

cyprusairsoft



Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 11:12

hello gudgirl welcome



apologies for all the usual t pots that dont have a clue and just try to wind other forum members up because they are pro greek its a fact of life you get used to on this forum.

We have a gay couple holidaying next door and they are buying in catalkoy.

They are very nice chaps and so quiet and pleasant havent got a problem with them or anyone that is gay at all. You cannot help the way you are made or the way you feel.

if you need any help or advise from some one that is not a homophob please ask

you will be made welcome in north cyprus.

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 11:19

Did you guys notice this post is nearly 2 years old, I think they have probably been and gone by now or came here found out for themselves and stayed.

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 11:20

I would imagine that since the original message was posted in September 2008, gudgirl and her other half will have settled here by now, if indeed they decided to make the move to N Cyprus. Mind you, I'm not saying that the information offered would not benefit others in the same situation.

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 11:22

no disrespect,but who really cares...........

Carndi


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 613

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 12:14

Gudgirl. As you can see there are a certain section of the Cyprus 44 contributers who have dedicated their lives to insulting those who try to carry out a sensible conversation / debate .

They are so knowlegable they can find an insult for any subject.

As to the original question: I know one lesbian and a very ' camp ' gentleman who live here who have not had any problems.

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 12:21

Again Carndi, like so many others you would rather abuse someone that look at the threads, it is nearly 2 years old. God knows why cyprusman3 dragged it out of the distant past but he did and then we get arguementative about something ridiculous just for the sake of an argument.

Her last post was at the end of October 2008, does that not tell you something.



Paul

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 12:28

4157 views



so many gay curious!!

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 12:32

Nice one Paul..Tells me that it was a very long time ago as stright away i looked at the date in the first thread. ))))







Spider.X

jamestalbot


Joined: 20/12/2009
Posts: 958

Message Posted:
27/06/2010 16:35

What does it matter about what your colour, race, culture, religion, sexuality or sexual preferences are?



Why can't we just allow people to live how they want with who they want, or exercise their religious beliefs, or follow their own culture, as long as they are not affecting anyone else.



This post is almost two years old, so lest's just live and let live, life is to short.



James

RickMan


Joined: 20/11/2010
Posts: 1

Message Posted:
20/11/2010 05:27

Hi Izzet,



I don't know if this forum is still active or if blew up after the seemingly innocent-enough post by gudgirl - Wow! What a row! I just joined...I was in the TRNC ages ago & positively loved it. I was about to buy a flat in Famagusta & so regret I didn't. Now I want to go back & buy a place. I hope to next year. Am looking to meet people over there again. Is this Vila Owners association that has a BB a sort of expat-club-type thing? Also loved the Morphou Bay area as I went on a big picnic there searching for the "black tulips"...really dark purple.



Anyway...can you recomend any local estate agents as opposed to the big developers. If house prices have fallen so drastically all over the world - are the prices these companies asking anywhere real? Has the market collapsed over there as it has in USA/UK/etc.?

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
20/11/2010 12:50

PtePike/ Msg 23: 'Better not tell that to the Turkish army.'



Are you implying that there are platoons of Turkish 'Tailgunners'? - !!!

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
20/11/2010 18:29

5430 views



even more gay curious peeps

journey1


Joined: 05/12/2009
Posts: 134

Message Posted:
20/11/2010 18:59

come and enjoy TRNC -loads of varying sexual preferences.

Creme Bar Girne - wow so the place to meet ,talk, laugh, connect and dance! Feathers dangling from the ceilings!

All designed for Gay/ Lesbian and can i say Heterosexual - Just had a fabby time there and I am straight!

Would love to go back another time

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
20/11/2010 19:45

I wonder if she's still a 'gudgirl' )

fosterscan


Joined: 27/02/2010
Posts: 541

Message Posted:
20/11/2010 20:14

2 years on..... things have probably changed so not a gudgirl anymore