did Andy grey deserve to be axed

stevo-london


Joined: 23/10/2010
Posts: 253

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 12:53

Ok I admit, a few of his comments where not what people wanted to hear but the guy spoke his mind.

Did he really deserve the sack?



Why do they call them linesmen and not lineswomen??? 

Arockingace



Joined: 24/01/2011
Posts: 75

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 12:59

Rightly or wrongly he made a mistake....gotta pay!!!

stevo-london


Joined: 23/10/2010
Posts: 253

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 13:04

bit harsh was it not?



A warning might of been more appropriate?

arrry



Joined: 19/08/2008
Posts: 1235

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 13:09

Definitely the right decision ! On air or off , those remarks should be saved for the pub ! replays showed the linesman got it RIGHT ! Mr Sky should have accepted that but couldn't resist a little jibe about women referees ! I don't like him as a commentator but enjoy his after match bit very much .And of course they are called assistant referees now aren't they ! I wonder if they will scrap the after match bit now ? I hope not but who will take over ? Answers on a post card please !

Arockingace



Joined: 24/01/2011
Posts: 75

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 13:09

I like a bit of banter the same as anyone, and let's face it the girls give us guys just as much! But if you are in the public eye and constantly in danger of being recorded, you have to be careful. It's the nature of the job, he is supposed to be a professional remember!

Geoff


Joined: 25/06/2008
Posts: 1370

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 13:13

What got my goat was the revelation on the BBC Radio4 today that his salary from SKY was £1.3M

Nice work if you can get it - he has just lost it!!!

Geoff

Jimmyboy63


Joined: 16/03/2009
Posts: 400

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 13:19

a total disgrace , Andy Gray was set up by some politically correct A******s



Love or loath him.....you have too feel sorry for him



What did he do wrong???

stevo-london


Joined: 23/10/2010
Posts: 253

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 13:37

ok but richard keys made a few remarks aswell did he not, surely he should be axed aswell?

fiendishpaul


Joined: 18/05/2008
Posts: 1720

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 13:48

Personally, I think that the decision to sack him is a bit over the top and says more about the influence of the PC Brigade than common sense - a warning or heavy fine would have been more than adequate. His comments were made 'off air' and were never intended for transmission and to be honest his comments could hardly be deemed offensive in the true sense of the word. It amounted to a bit of 'battle of the sexes' bar room banter which you could hear any day of the week down your local spoken by both men and women. I will now await the tirade from the ladies



Paul

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 13:56

Sorry but he was not sacked for the clearly sexist remarks about the female assistant referee but for the sexual harassment of a fellow employee. Gross misconduct so only one outcome.





Harold2555

stevo-london


Joined: 23/10/2010
Posts: 253

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 13:59

saw that aswell the microphone correct?

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 14:05

Yes Stevo



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Hippo


Joined: 02/02/2007
Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 14:06

I thought he was quite right-football, cricket and rugby -played by men watched by men coached by men the woman's place is in the kichen making the teas.



Its another example of the world gone mad- and been taken over by radical street feminests and homosexuals.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 14:08

Stitched up like a kipper,

Paul.

rdsteve


Joined: 01/03/2009
Posts: 187

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 14:35

Loose Women or Men Haters as it is known on ITV make sexist remarks about men everyday so why have these people not been sacked?. Andy Gray has been stitched up over the phone tapping by the News of the World who is also owned by Murdoch. He will win his case for unfair dismissal and will probably end up on Talksport Radio in the near future

joandjelly


Joined: 24/02/2008
Posts: 2953

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 14:47

Has nothing to do with sexist comments and everything to do with suing the News of the World, in my opinion of course. Cannot imagine what justifies a salary of £1.7m though, certainly not his pretty face (oops is that sexist )

YFred


Joined: 06/05/2009
Posts: 1471

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 15:13

When you consider also that he asked a lady to attach his microphone on to his trousers and pointed to his loin area, it was long overdue. The presenter should have been fired too. This is not a mistake, it is a frame of band and it has no place in today world.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 15:14

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9373280.stm





Maybe he wasnt stitched up,

Paul.

mahdel


Joined: 28/05/2009
Posts: 255

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 17:17

yeah he didnt really get fired for saying a silly remark about the female linesman, it was his ridiculously inappropriate sexual harassment of his female co-presenter that got him the sack. Otherwise keys would be out the door as well, though that may soon follow. He can complain about being stitched up all he wants, but the fact of the matter is he said stupid things and sexually harassed someone in the workplace while wearing a microphone and being filmed. He did what he was sacked for on camera and he knows it.

racoonchic



Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3223

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 17:30

stevo i sent you an email regarding the waitress job in the new Asian restaurant's. can you email ure no please or text it to 05338384636

gromit


Joined: 28/10/2010
Posts: 75

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 17:35

I hear thre's more about to hit the fan in Keys direction!



If Sky ditch them both,...



it's a quick way to save 2 or 3 £m's a year!



They could be replaced for peanuts nowadays! ;-)

deputydawg


Joined: 30/03/2010
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 17:38

To me Andy Gray is a victim of his inability to be impartial in many areas of his work. His comments made in matches involving Everton and the likes of Manchester United were often blatantly biased so always best to seek a second view after his reporting. For a footballer who could only kick with his head he has had a good innings over a very long period of time at what seems to be a salary well beyond what many dedicated and talented people earn, male or female. I hope he can get over it, I can !

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 17:56

answer YES a woman in a mans world place is not easy place to be - it should not be about gender it shoudl be whether that person can do their job whatever that maybe



Shoudl learn to keep his biased opnions to himself )))

beeches


Joined: 17/03/2009
Posts: 134

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 18:14

Did he deserve to be sacked?.............................YES. To be so sexist in this day and age to lose a job worth £1.7 million he definitely deserved it. Hope he doesn't work again.

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 18:53

Msg 22 Totally agree.

He's the most biased comentator on TV and quite ofted gets decisions wrong but is too arogant to appologise.



I for one wont miss him.

gromit


Joined: 28/10/2010
Posts: 75

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 19:00

Keys cringeworthy interview on Talksport:



http://threeandin.com/2011/01/26/richard-keys-talksport-interview/

Dixie Normus


Joined: 22/02/2008
Posts: 820

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 19:11

Shame that a good down to earth type that had a sence of humour should be made an example of by PC toss pots. WE will end up with a load of zombie yes men that are frightened to have a bit of a laugh and speak their minds just to keep the hokay yarry brigade happy.



D.N

Jimmyboy63


Joined: 16/03/2009
Posts: 400

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 19:35

message 27....on the money....very well said

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 20:11

Well deserved by what he said, however he should have been allowed to apologise if he wished, it appears Sky were looking to get rid of him, Keys must be pooing his pants tonight as it seems he will be next.

clayton


Joined: 30/11/2008
Posts: 1143

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 20:11

sorry blackpool fans,give the job to holloway.

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 20:15

Good one! funny man

andrew4232



Joined: 04/07/2009
Posts: 1543

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 20:22

who really cares !

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 20:31

I hope the beautiful Sandra Bullock look alike who refs on snooker didnt get those sexist remarks. She does a great job. Yes we know its a mans world but we have evolved. Girls do like sport also and if they can have a career in it why not. You dads out there who took your kids to football, rugby, cricket etc showed them the way. Look at Gabby Logan and the life she has made from it as Terrys other daughters have x

greylag


Joined: 08/04/2009
Posts: 1110

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 21:32

http://www.google.ie/search?q=sian+massey+partying&hl=en&biw=1276&bih=823&prmd=ivnsuo&source=univ&tbs=vid:1&tbo=u&ei=LXZATerkDMiKhQfv5KHdCA&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CEQQqwQwAw



She could catch me off side anytime,.

Grey.

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 21:55

I don't think anyone should have lost their job over this. Us women are more than capable of standing our own corner and dealing effectively with these sort of comments and attitudes. Actually I hate the politically correct brigade coming to the "rescue" of women. All it does is perpetuate the view that women need someone to come to their rescue!



Often it does more harm than good.

Scubadoo


Joined: 08/06/2009
Posts: 162

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 22:12

For Sale, one massive I Pad touch interactive screen... all enquiries to andygray.not@skyanymore.com

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
26/01/2011 23:21

Good riddance couldn't stand him

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
27/01/2011 02:48

Msg 13 - Hippo. There are 26 million females playing across the world, 4.1 million playing affiliated football, a 54 per cent growth since the year 2000 (FIFA Big Count 2006).Over 20,000 females have successfully attained FA coaching qualifications (including 150 Level 3 - UEFA ‘B’ - coaches).The number of female referees has increased by 21 per cent.Forty-two per cent of children in The FA Tesco Skills Programme are girls and 20 per cent of FA Charter Standard Leagues are female leagues. Whilst one has learned from past postings, you are often still in the neanderthal stage in your thought processesses, the above information disabuses you of the notion, women aren't involved in football. I am pleased to learn today that Keys has also been fired - both moronic males (Grey clearly has no moral compass - four children with three women-constantly unfaithful-arrogant and ignorant of social mores) both hugely overpaid-this is a well needed reality check-hopefully a learning curve

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
27/01/2011 08:33

I have just been reading an article in the Daily Mail online about the 'Loose Woman' programme that slags men off all the time - oh dear battle of the sexes begin - bloody football got a lot to answer too

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
27/01/2011 12:47

On Loose Women - a programme I have only watched very occasionally - the women are just vacuous air-headed 'stuck on stupid' women - playing to a baying audience, and from what I have seen only ever make GENERAL remarks about men, that most people say or hear on a daily basis - such as "they don't do their share of house-work", "never read instructions", "won't ask the way" - what Grey and Keys said was specifically targeted at professonal women the equal, or better, than they are. They were also nefarious (said off air) in what they said - showing their arrogance, bitterness and misogyny.

jimmyG


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 900

Message Posted:
27/01/2011 16:26

Loose women - just a bunch of slappers!!

jamestalbot


Joined: 20/12/2009
Posts: 958

Message Posted:
27/01/2011 17:13

Yes he did deserve to be axed, any one in the public eye, arena, etc needs to be aware of the possible offence they may cause by unguarded off the cuff comments.

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
27/01/2011 17:20

jimmyG - Hippo - divided at birth?

Jimmyboy63


Joined: 16/03/2009
Posts: 400

Message Posted:
27/01/2011 18:03

Andy Gray....suing Sky for £3m for unfair dismissal....good luck!!!

doggiesteve


Joined: 06/10/2010
Posts: 265

Message Posted:
27/01/2011 18:13

wimmin will be wanting to play snooker next... ffs their tits will get in the way !!!



Then they will be wanting to wear a bra so the chalk dust does not cling to their extremities !!

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
27/01/2011 18:24

yes

As a professional pundit he said that official ,who happened to be a woman, didnt know the offside rule just before she was about to handle a game.

Seen him before on about on where refs went wrong,Easy to be the bigshot when you have the luxury of looking at 100 replays and 50 angles. Another self centred idiot who confuses the size of his paypoke with the size of his talent.



andrew4232 message 32 ' who really cares ! '



You do ,or else you wouldnt have entered and posted in a thread clearly marked 'did andy gray deserve to be sacked'

Dixie Normus


Joined: 22/02/2008
Posts: 820

Message Posted:
27/01/2011 18:38

Ive been looking for years for a bird that enjoys footie, knows her way round a snooker table and buys a round in now and again, you've got more chance of gettin a B Job off the pope. Let the lads enjoy their sport with a bit of pee taking here and there, if the girlies dont like the humour do a bit of kniting or cleaning or what ever you do when your not naggin.



D.N

jimmyG


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 900

Message Posted:
27/01/2011 18:49

Only me & Hippo MsGarnet ?!!!

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
28/01/2011 02:36

Mea culpa jimmy - you'r right - you two plus heaps of others :o)

jimmyG


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 900

Message Posted:
28/01/2011 11:37

MsGarnet - it's a pity you wrongly assumed that in msg 41 I was referring to a certain TV programme rather than a general observation.

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
28/01/2011 13:05

jimmyG - don't kid a kidder - you clearly were - as to your colloquialism; "loose women" you don't give a definition, an example - unlike the women being talked about on the programme - Loose Women, therefore negating your last posting.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
28/01/2011 13:40

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcasting/news/a300468/andy-gray-will-sue-sky-sports-for-gbp3m.html



And so the story takes another turn,

Paul.

jimmyG


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 900

Message Posted:
28/01/2011 13:43

MsGarnet - I know what I meant - worryingly you seem to think that you do too - who's kidding who?

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
28/01/2011 15:22

OK jimmyG - I said to myself, this is a male that always has to have the last word, and tell himself he is always right - but didn't put it, because you would just milk it - sooooooooooo - proved me right eh? This is my last word to you.......but you being predictable........over to you.........

sporty


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 685

Message Posted:
28/01/2011 15:52

yep,he deserves to be sacked,saying sexist comments should not be allowed at all. She had a nice rack on her though! looks a bit of a go er to me! lol.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
28/01/2011 18:52

Definition of irony.



Being sacked for sexism by the man that owns The Sun

jimmyG


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 900

Message Posted:
28/01/2011 18:59

Or being done over by a stress counsellor

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
28/01/2011 20:27

I think the first incident regarding the lineswoman's knowledge of the offside rule, was just banter. However for the lewd comments he made to the female presenter - he had to go.

I do think though there's more to this than meets the eye.

karakum5c



Joined: 18/03/2008
Posts: 1021

Message Posted:
28/01/2011 22:47

Why can shows like Loose Women be regularly be sexist and insulting to men without any reproach !!!



Female Comedians like Jo Brand say the Quickest way to a mans heart.................is to stick a stake through it !!!



Its OK for a woman to be SEXIST but not a man in the UK today.

YFred


Joined: 06/05/2009
Posts: 1471

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 01:26

They both got a job in one of the Arab stations, where they will be safe. Women are not allowed out of the house never mind football field or a TV studio.

mark&beck



Joined: 08/01/2009
Posts: 303

Message Posted:
29/01/2011 13:08

In a recent interview regardind his sacking from Sky TV Andy Gray was asked ' is this the lowest part of your career'

To which Andy replied 'No I used to play for Everton'