lost rottweiler esentepe area

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
27/01/2011 13:28

the dog broke another tie and ran off after the thunder last night.. anyone finding this dog can you please call me on 05338384636 .there are not many of these dogs in the area and its been reported to the police and belidere.. its got a blue collar and is less than a year old but still a big dog.. names tojo and is approachable

zcacmxi


Joined: 30/11/2008
Posts: 388

Message Posted:
27/01/2011 13:32

If you can't keep control of your dog, especially a rottweiler that is classified as a "Dangerous Dog" in the UK, then you should not be allowed to keep one.



I hope you find it before it attacks anybody.



http://www.ukandspain.com/dangerous-dogs/

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
27/01/2011 13:44

its not dangerous. keep ure coments you













Edited , I know you are upset about your dog , but no need rude language

Simbas

simbas



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Message Posted:
27/01/2011 13:47

Msg 3 edited for reason given , hope you find your dog soon .

Simbas

zcacmxi


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Message Posted:
27/01/2011 14:00

Most, if not all, of the savage and sometimes fatal attacks carried out by Rottweilers in the UK are by family pets that were seen as "not dangerous" but turn...



Last year, an owner in the UK was charged after her pet Rottweilers mauled a girl in the street. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-11128124



I hope you find it soon, and you manage to keep it under control in the future.

chelle70


Joined: 14/09/2010
Posts: 28

Message Posted:
27/01/2011 14:07

I believe its the way the dog is brought up i have german shepherds who are soft as s**t but they still have a bad name here in uk id be more scared of a small yappy dog, Hope you find your dog soon

Vidal


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Message Posted:
27/01/2011 14:11

Hi Racoonchic



He'll turn up when he's stopped shaking in his boots, just keep looking.



Good Luck.



Vidal

zcacmxi


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Posts: 388

Message Posted:
27/01/2011 14:14

chelle70 - agreed. I'm not saying this particular dog has been brought up to be aggresive or dangerous. I don't know about it. All I know is that it's been posted on these forums that it's broken its ties twice this year.



Seeing a post "Rottweiler" on the loose is worrying to say the least? It is clearly a big and powerful animal breaking its tie, and this breed has appeared on the BBC news once too many times..

gottheyips


Joined: 28/12/2007
Posts: 444

Message Posted:
27/01/2011 14:26

Hope Tojo is found and returned safe and well.



Derek.

jfoggy


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Message Posted:
27/01/2011 14:33

Hoping Tojo is found and back home with you soon.

Doola3


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Posts: 234

Message Posted:
27/01/2011 15:01

Hi Racoonchic, I really hope that you find him soon, safe and well.

I agree that it is the way the dog is raised and not a particular breed that makes them dangerous. The only reason that dogs such as Rottweilers and other so called 'dangerous breeds' are called such is because they have in recent years been trained to be that way by people who have them for completely the wrong reasons.

I am sure that he will come running home with his tail between his legs when he has explored a bit and is hungry. xx

simbas



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Message Posted:
27/01/2011 18:17

Have you found him yet ?

Simbas

paddywack


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Posts: 959

Message Posted:
27/01/2011 18:36

Got a Doderman called Loopy Lilly,daft as a brush,one of the toy poodles called Louis, you cannot put a hand on him ,so much for dog breeds.

BillyB


Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 436

Message Posted:
27/01/2011 20:17

racoonchic, If you go down to the new harbour they sell the big massive chains that they use to chain the cruise liners up to the docks and next time don't leave your angle grinder laying about in the garden. Hope you find your doggy.

Lilli



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Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
27/01/2011 20:19

Has he returned yet racoon. please be to god he will x

sienna


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Message Posted:
27/01/2011 20:42

message 2 don't judge every book by its cover !



I hope you find/found your doggie safe and sound

racoonchic



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Posts: 3223

Message Posted:
27/01/2011 21:56

i did get him back ..after 3 hours searching . i was at home working on my latest wind up when lo and behold the dog appeared at the patiodoor looking like it had just partied all night with the local bitches.. thank god its a dog !!! cheers for all your well wishes.. xxxxx

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
27/01/2011 22:03

well love thanks be to god xx At least he is safe and and sound. i put my lot in the kitchen tonight, on thier mattress.Because my staffi is an hudini we put 5 chairs against the door. What did I come back to chairs moved front door opened all waiting for me in the garage. so sweet like Hi Mum xxxxxxxxx

spider


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Message Posted:
27/01/2011 22:37

Great news









Spider,X

jfoggy


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Message Posted:
27/01/2011 23:13

That's great news, a happy ending.

Julie

Doola3


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Posts: 234

Message Posted:
28/01/2011 09:49

So pleased you found him. x

Vidal


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Posts: 867

Message Posted:
28/01/2011 10:51

Racoonchic..glad doggo is back!



We have a Houdini and we got him one of the wireless collars. It has totally transformed life for all of us. It took him a couple of days to figure out what we were doing but now he has the run of the place. He tears around, we can play ball and catch (which is hard to do when they are tied up). Two months on and we dont actually have the collar turn on..but he doesnt know that and he patrols our property within the boundary, which allows him to do exactly what he was bred for!!



Before the 'that's cruel' brigade start jumping up and down, they are NOT banned anywhere, cattle guardian dog owners all over the world use them. There is a full programme of a training period which if followed correctly, the dog will get a ping once, maybe twice. Its all about the sound.

Best money we have ever spent.

racoonchic



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Posts: 3223

Message Posted:
28/01/2011 16:29

can i ask how it helps annie and how it works and where they can be found.. as the wife wants one for me xx

Vidal


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Posts: 867

Message Posted:
28/01/2011 19:03

Oh no RC..that would be so cruel, it would stop you running into the road and hot footing it to the pub and getting lost on the way home!



And do ya know what else, You can even take it out in the car with you so, if you go out for the day and the Mrs lets you off on your own for a bit, it will bleep to tell you when you've gone too far!





I've emailed you.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
28/01/2011 19:10

Vidal where can I get them for my hudini, he just hates closed doors they are a challenge to him.No matter gow muck wire we put up he finds the way out xx

Vidal


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Posts: 867

Message Posted:
28/01/2011 19:14

I got mine on a visit to the UK and brought it back with me.



I'll send you an email.

breezyboy


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Posts: 1179

Message Posted:
02/02/2011 17:11

z whatever your handle

Try talking through your mouth instead of your anus.

You really havent a clue what you are talking about.

You just beleive everything you read in the press.







Remember Rule 3

Simbas

Scoty


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Message Posted:
02/02/2011 19:38

Msg 27 - obviously got a problrem!!!

Who is 'z'

simbas



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Message Posted:
02/02/2011 20:13

msg 27 edited

Simbas

rolly


Joined: 12/03/2009
Posts: 107

Message Posted:
02/02/2011 20:24

hi sorry to hear about your rotti going missing hope you find him soon . could you tell me i am trying to organise bringing my rotti over soon to trnc but have now been told they come under the dangerouse dogs list for the trnc. he is as soft as a brush would lick you to death first. hope you can tell me something. cheers rolly.

Lilli



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Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
02/02/2011 20:30

Rolly, Hiya love, I brought my staffi frim the UK . They are also now on the danger list so no chance of taking him back/ Try Tom at FlightHoliday IAF, details on his profile . Hope you manage it xxxxx

MsGarnet


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Message Posted:
03/02/2011 01:22

Am TOTALLY behind msg 2 - if only EVERY dog owner, especially owners of huge dogs, or those on 'dangerous' dogs lists - would read EVERY single word of the link in message two, and look at the torn/dead children shown - but they won't - because there are none so blind as those that will not see - sadly DeNial isn't only in Egypt!!!!!!!! SO many owners listed said exactly what the person in Msg 30 says - yet rarely would a dog bite the hand that feeds them - it knows it is the leader of the 'pack' and whilst training (how many owners actually go to recognised training clubs? I would posit, not many - believing they can train their animal themselves, who needs qualifications eh)? the gene pool is what counts most. This animal has clearly broken its tie before (why would anyone tie an animal up, if it isn't dangerous???????????? How many times do we read criticism of TC's tying up their animals - pot? kettle? ONLY when a child or adult is killed or maimed in TC will sanity prevail......

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
03/02/2011 07:40

sory rolly i didnt bring him from the uk . the dog was dumped and i took him in . so im not sure about procedures required.. good luck anyway..

MsGarnet


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Message Posted:
03/02/2011 13:46

I find Msg 33 even more horrifying - a "dumped dog" taken in - whilst admirable, in this case, but always in general - a damaged (because if an animal is owned then "dumped" the provenance is unknown, the temperment, health et cetera unknown - it is by implication, already damaged emotionally) is like housing a loaded gun with the safety off - who knows if or when it will fire........I see from the profile a young child - I would NEVER for one single second - leave a child, or indeed an adult, with this huge strong animal, not knowing it's parents or circumstances of its birth..........you say it is "approachable" - I find that too, an odd - rather hesistant word - rather than - very friendly - say. The most worrying thing though, is the fact you find it necessary to tie it up - why?

negativenick


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Message Posted:
03/02/2011 15:39

mess 13............nick, mack - paddy whack - leave that dog alone...........

rolly


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Message Posted:
03/02/2011 15:58

hi every one i have read all the comments relating to dangerouse dogs and i must say that some people are anti dog. i have had dogs all my life ranging from chitsu to rottis. the dogs are only managed by the owners and most of the time its bad attitude towards the dog that causes the dog to go bad. in all the dogs i have had i took lessons on how to train me and the dog to behave correctly and yes i got the slap from the trainer for not doing the correct command. i never had to remonstrate my dog never it would always obey commands and my rotti was 10stone full of power but soft as a brush. it allowed my grandchildren to ride on his back and never bothered any other dog when out walking.other dogs were the problem in that they would annoy him but got no response from my dog. his eventual death at 16yrs old was due to a burgalary in which they hit him with a spade no injuries to the victim .i just think that just because some have gone wild does not mean all are classed the same.

racoonchic



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Posts: 3223

Message Posted:
03/02/2011 23:26

mrs garnet the dog is undergoing extensive obedience training as its obviously never been trained but its more inteligent than you as its willing to learn something new.. there are obvious signs of a problem dog. they dont just do a 360 overnight.. and if your suggesting that i would put my child at risk in any way then your barking up the wrong tree. i suggest you come and spend a few hours with my family and the dogs and see how you feel later. we all make mistakes..x

shrimp


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Message Posted:
03/02/2011 23:47

We had a very large, very strong german shepherd dog who was just fantastic....when my daughter was young she was distraught as she saw a bird fall out of a tree and the dog got to it before she did....on inspection the dog had the bird in its paws and was licking it all over, cleaning it, keeping it warm, generally taking care of it....the dog was doing such a good job with it we didnt take the bird away but left the dog to it, half an hour later the dog opened its paws and the bird flew off, that dog saved the life of the bird I am sure.........

MsGarnet


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Message Posted:
03/02/2011 23:54

It wasn't clear in any your postings that your child never goes near the animal whilst "undergoing extensive obedience training" so I hadn't realised you are cognisant of the very real potential for it being a traumatised animal and all that implies. I'm surprised too that an accredited animal behavourist would advise the dog is tied up - after all, without anthropomorphising, if we were tied up, what would be the first and only thing we would constantly try and do? Of course you loose all credibility with "but its more inteligent (sic) than you" but I realise that is the response of someone who fears there is more than a grain of truth or possibility in what I have said. That said, all of us learn something new every day of our lives until we leave this mortal coil. In no way would you put your child "intentionally at risk" any more than the many parents of the maimed and dead children in Msg 2 link, one presumes you have read every word, and looked at every picture; if not, why not?

japeal



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Message Posted:
04/02/2011 00:16

Shrimp,



We have 2 Staffys, when in uk they used to walk with up to 15 other dogs on fields near where we lived, the bitch, Penny one day after learning/watching another dog chasing birds once caught a bird in her mouth. She locked her mouth around it and walked for over 25mins with it then she just stopped opened her mouth and let the bird fly away. Amazing to see. Penny is so soft it is unbelievable!

racoonchic



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Posts: 3223

Message Posted:
04/02/2011 08:10

the dogs safe and back home where it belongs so thers no reason not to close this thread

breezyboy


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Message Posted:
04/02/2011 12:33

Sorry if I upset anyone Simbas but this pre-conceived idea people have on rotties is usually aired by people who as they know nothing of the subject should ,eep quiet. I have in the last few years owned 3 rotties and 2 golden retreivers. The press love to pick on certain dogs as they pick on certain types of people stereotyping them. One of my rotties was a rescue dog from a broken home where the husband used to beat it for fun so she didnt like men. It took some re-training but she was the most adorable dog within weeks. I have stood on a field of 30 rotties off the lead with no concerns. This is because any dog is only as good as it's training. If you train a poodle to be nasty it can be.

Years ago I was on a long jourmey when the news reported a child savaged by a rottie and a golden. This was 7.30am. By 9.00 the golden wasnt mentioned just the rottie. Obviously the golden wasnt newsworthy. Turned out the child? age unknown had broken into a locked garden!!

simbas



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Message Posted:
04/02/2011 12:48

Breezyboy , Actually we had a Lab when we were kids that was sent off to live with an Aunt because it couldn't be trusted around children . But then my Father had a Doberman and we had 2 German Shepherds that never gave cause for concern at all up until the day they died .

Simbas

sienna


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Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
04/02/2011 12:55

as said NEVER judge a book by its cover



My dog a Boxer soft as anything has been attacked by Labs Rotties and little ankle bitters - so your verbal diarrhoea is just that ! good an bad in every breed much like humans really

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
04/02/2011 13:04

http://www.wikihow.com/Defend-Against-a-Dog-Attack

bigjuss


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Message Posted:
04/02/2011 15:13

let me educate you "z" or whatever you call yourself.......

rottweillers are NOT on the british dangerous dog list.....

you need to get your facts straight before informing people wrongly.....

MsGarnet


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Message Posted:
04/02/2011 18:18

They should be on the list, as should the Staffi and some others. The Rottweiler 'breed' is inherently vicious. No matter how much training, or how much introduction to human influence, if the breed is genetically and historically vicious, then nothing and no amount of training will change it. The reason it has got such a reputation (along with other breeds) is BECAUSE there are so many recorded maimings AND DEATHS of children and adults by unprovoked attacks. I wish the people championing them as family pets would read every single word, and look at every single picture in the link in Msg 2, but they won't - because if you have knowledge, you have to act upon it - so best to keep your head in the sand :o( You will never know when the day will arrive, your "beloved, soft as butter" pet will change your lives, and that of your nearest and dearest - for ever......in the most traumatising day - if it doesn't happen, you have simply been lucky.......

Pugwash


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Message Posted:
04/02/2011 18:29

I am surprised that Rottolover ties his dog up, why?

MsGarnet


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Message Posted:
04/02/2011 19:04

Don't believe pepper spray in England is legal - remember, this is now a nanny state, where wussies, bullies, extremists and jobsworths obtain - common sense has disappeared - sadly I believe - for ever........

Jeannie


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Message Posted:
04/02/2011 19:10

Message 48. Where does it say that Rottolover ties up his dog?



Or, more to the point, where has Rottolover posted on this thread?



I think you'll find (and I stand to be corrected) that the nickname "Rottolover" has nothing whatsoever to do with Rotweilers?

Pugwash


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Message Posted:
04/02/2011 19:31

Apologise meant racoonchic



"the dog broke another tie and ran off after the thunder last night.. "

sienna


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Message Posted:
04/02/2011 19:39

Ms Garnet I presume you have had bad experiences ?

japeal



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Message Posted:
04/02/2011 20:09

MsGarnet,



Suggest you either learn about dogs or come and meet breeds you think you know about. Stsaffys are among the most recommended as being good natures friendly and good to be with people. The only thing I believe about staffys that theyneed watching for is their strength, they can easily knock a young child over just by brushing past the child. Everyone who has met our staffys think they are great anf friendly, that even includes local TCs', in fact the local shephard is quite happy to walk with his sheep around our dogs.



The only really bad dogs are the one's trained to be vicious.

Lilli



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Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
04/02/2011 20:23

japeal, I agree with you. I didnt know anything of my staffis provedence when we took him from the rescue centre in wales/ he was scared and so timid. If any voices were raised he would run for cover. I assume he lived in a violent household.He is so soft and loving. He is now in pain with his arthritis so dosent give a dam to chase anything. All of my grandkids love him to bits and I have never ever been afraid of him being around them.The local shephard in the village we last lived in used to invite the two dogs to walk with him, his dogs and the sheep x

MsGarnet


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Message Posted:
04/02/2011 20:45

japeal - I doubt Princess Anne trained her Staffi to be vicious, and feel sure the gene pool she got the pup from, would have been well sourced - that didn't prevent her being taken to Court in Slough, because her Staff bit a child in Windsor Great Park - the case was proved (pictures of the child were in our local paper, with accompanying bite mark) and Princess Anne, was fined. I have said ad nauseum ANY DOG has the potential to attack - some breeds more likely to do so, than others. I doubt there is one breed that hasn't, at some juncture, bitten a human. Billions of people can tell how their particular dog was wonderful, safe, cuddly..........for fifteen some years, and died with no mark against their character - but until someone can tell me how to identify such an animal will be so, for its lifetime, from cradle to grave - then clearly any sensible person will beware around any dog - even its own, most especially where children are concerned. I love dogs, have had many...

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
05/02/2011 21:01

as i explained b4 this dog was abandoned . we gave him a home but as hes not been trained we feel the need to teather him at night in case he runs off and gets hit by a car or poisened . after his training is over and it learns not to wander off we will let him do his own thing . pugwash i hope you can understand. i have another rescue dog from kar thats never been tethered in the 4 years hes been with us. i personally dont like tying a dog but if it means its keeping it from harm then its necessary..

the2ofus


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Message Posted:
06/02/2011 02:45

I would have thought that the purpose of this thread had been finished ( it was about a lost Rotty - that had been found according to msg 17) - i am really so glad they have found their dog - but why then has the thread not been shut down !!!!!!!! as per usual once a thread has reached it's aim.

Purpose of continuing it is ???????

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
06/02/2011 07:49

agreed close please

simbas



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Message Posted:
06/02/2011 09:59

This thread is now closed. Reason: Thread was addressed and no need for further posts.