[ QUIZ-04 ] Why did the children die so young..?

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
12/02/2011 18:47

Quiz (04): Again I have divided a picture of (part of) an historic monument in TRNC in 10 rectangles.

▶ The questions: Where was the picture taken and what do you see on the picture?

▶ I'll fill one rectangle at random times - but there'll be no winner in this Quiz if in the end there are less than three empty rectangles to fill!

▶ Here and there I'll give a cryptic hint or some info...

▶ The prize in this Quiz: The first good (complete!) answer wins an invitation for two for an Historical Walk in Kyrenia.

OK, here we go again: expats and swallows, show your knowledge about Northern Cyprus...

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P.S. Difficulty of this Quiz: VERY VERY difficult...

simbas



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Message Posted:
12/02/2011 18:50

Is it in Magoza ?

Simbas

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
12/02/2011 18:53

RE msg 2, simbas: Only the quizmaster asks the questions in this thread... And I happen to be the quizmaster... But I'm always polite when a real lady asks a question; the answer, unfortunately, dear Pat, is: No.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
12/02/2011 19:44

Hint: they only realised during the Renaissance they should do it...

philbailey


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Message Posted:
12/02/2011 19:58

this thread title is quite apt at the momentt

DutchCrusader



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12/02/2011 20:27

RE msg 5, philbailey: (...) this thread title is quite apt at the momentt (...)

▶ But your post in this thread is not.

Back on topic.



I've updated the picture: four out of ten empty rectangles are filled now... I told you, this is a VERY, VERY difficult Quiz. I did it on request of No1Doyen - but where is he..? Well, complaints about the difficulty to Moderator Bill..!

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Turbo


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Message Posted:
12/02/2011 21:14

is it a tomb?, found close to the white church near the old harbour.?

DutchCrusader



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12/02/2011 21:19

RE msg 7, Turbo: No. But, a hint as a reward...: the picture WAS taken in Kyrenia...

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No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
12/02/2011 21:27

Kyrenia Gate......

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
12/02/2011 21:32

Hint: thousands through the centuries must have died because they used this ........ daily - count the dots!

DutchCrusader



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12/02/2011 21:53

Picture updated. Only four empty rectangles left...

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Oh, errrm, Bill (RE msg 9): Kyrenia Gate is in Nicosia... This ........ can be found in old and once completely walled Kyrenia.

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
12/02/2011 22:33

2,3,&9 hidden pictures.

Cleopatra having a siesta?!



Richard

DONTY


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Message Posted:
12/02/2011 22:44

Is this round the back of the harbour, opposite the Mosque?

Something to do with water?

An infected water supply?

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
12/02/2011 23:11

It's the old water tank in the castle.

shrimp


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Message Posted:
12/02/2011 23:35

I too was going to say something to do with the water supply.......

shrimp


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Message Posted:
12/02/2011 23:38

An infected well!!

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
12/02/2011 23:49

Could be shrimp. I think we are getting close.

DONTY


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Message Posted:
13/02/2011 00:14

My post 13 says an infected water supply which would obviously be a place where people get water i.e a well or public drinking fountain/tap in later times.

Perhaps the reference to death has something to do with arsenic, sewage or maybe metals such as copper (seeing as we are in Cyprus) leaching into the water (if a water supply it is) and harming the users?

Or thinking laterally, maybe a place to dispose of dirty water/effluence?

Traveller0392


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Message Posted:
13/02/2011 01:51

.... Side door of the Nostalgic hotel.... ha ha... no seriously.... It looks like the scruffy place next door.... . can't remember the name of it.... behind Fish restaurant in the harbour.... ??.... . more clues please.. . .. .

Turbo


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Message Posted:
13/02/2011 02:59

Traveller0392 that was my first thought,, love that building.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
13/02/2011 08:34

Several answers are close, very close... But the answers are not exact enough. Remember the question in msg 1:

▶ The questions: Where was the picture taken and what do you see on the picture?

I'll fill one more empty rectangle for your last chance in this quiz-04...

But now: breakfast, outside on the terrace...

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
13/02/2011 09:26

Picture updated (now only three empty rectangles left...).

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DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
13/02/2011 10:33

It's only a daydream: I wish I could spend one day in the Middle Ages... With my camera, notebook and a ballpoint. For instance to observe daily life in walled Kyrenia. I'd start my day at one of the two town gates, watching peasants on donkeys (no cars then, what a relief!) bringing their agricultural produce into town, sell them on the market and leave town before sunset, because the Frankish rulers of Cyprus (harsh occupiers who had long forgotten their Crusading vows) didn't trust the unruly locals one little bit within their walls...

I'd go to the market and watch how some blacksmith would pull out someone's broken tooth with a crude pair of pliers - of course without any sedation or pain killers.

Reading about the Middle Ages is often romantic, but the truth is different. Life expectancy was between 40-50 years. No one was ever old enough to have Altzheimer disease...

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DutchCrusader



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13/02/2011 10:58

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The medieval people had forgotten about the skills of the Roman occupiers of Cyprus, who a thousand years previously already enjoyed central heating and running water in Salamis. In Kyrenia and elsewhere the houses had no taps, no running water and no toilets inside the houses. Some people with a large back garden (for the time) would dig a shallow well to fetch their daily water - next to a hole that was used as the toilet. No need to explain how dangerous it was to drink such water. Only hundreds of years later people began to understand that water had to be boiled before one could drink it...



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DutchCrusader



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13/02/2011 12:17

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Now for the subject of Quiz-04... The picture shows a pedestal public fountain in the same street as the Chrysopolitissa chuch (Bozaklar Sok), in a wall of an old house from the Lusignan era (1192-1489). This public fountain (once one of many in Kyrenia) was in use for people without an own well, between ca 1200 and 1900! The water came also from shallow wells hence was definitely also badly contaminated - no wonder that 50% of the babies died before the age of two. Of every six children only four would survive to become adults. It's one of the reasons why, for many centuries, the population of Cyprus remained the same in numbers.



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DutchCrusader



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13/02/2011 12:29

Well (unintentional pun...) this was our day in medieval Kyrenia. I think you all will agree that no participant in this Quiz had the complete right answer..? I'll make another quiz - until you tell me that you're fed up with "old stones" and stories about social life in medieval Cyprus...

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DONTY


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Message Posted:
13/02/2011 13:12

I wasn't far off eh! Another 100m and I'd be bringing along my 3rd cousin twice removed.



Talking of your walks, I'm a working man and sometimes not available at the weekends so I need to plan ahead. Could you get in contact about my previous wins Dutch? forcyprus44@ymail.com



Many thanks and keep the quizzes coming.

Oh and could you possibly slow up the reveal of pictures a bit as they come along a bit fast for folk that don't live on Cyp44

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
13/02/2011 13:38

Well, well, well. We were very close this time Hans. )

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
13/02/2011 13:41

RE msg 27, Donty.

1: I'll contact you via email this evening or tomorrow. We'll find a date that suits you.

2: Yes, Sir, Mr. Donty, OK, I'll slow it down...

Kind regards, Hans Doeleman

DONTY


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Message Posted:
13/02/2011 14:06

Thanks Hans.

Although Sir Donty sounds rather cool, there's no need for formalities such as Sir or Mr unless you prefer it that way