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OldDogs


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This morning my wife witnessed the following at the Supreme Supermarket in Catalkoy. A respectable looking middle aged English couple were at the till. He was unloading the trolley whilst his wife packed the goods. The till was rung up but unseen by the checkout girl there was a pack of cheese in the bottom of the trolley. He bent to pick up the cheese but his wife told him to leave it. At this he pushed the trolley forward and slipped the cheese, unpaid for into one of their bags and left.

I hope the people concerned read this and can explain why my wife was mistaken. Or if she was correct take themselves and their thieving ways back to England where such actions seem to have become more acceptable.



shrimp


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Ideally anyone seeing a person shoplift should perhaps challenge them and shame them into returning it, but in reality this would not happen as I like you would just watch and take note.....Unfortunately in UK if we did challenge them we may well get stabbed or shot...........



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Terrible state of affairs, let's hope that once they have eaten the cheese they will become more mature.



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Good Morning all re the posting from Old Dog.



I think this posting Say's more about you and your lack of moral lack fibre.



It's not surprising you choose to be so pious anonymously



Doug



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Why should the alleged actions of one couple make you ashamed to be British?



What does nationality have to do with a petty criminal act?



shrimp


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A friend of mine went to the help of a young lad who had been stabbed outside a club in London.....she attempted to give him the kiss of life......when the case came to court she was called as the accused's solicitor had claimed that the lad had died, not because of the initial stab wound but by her inexperienced attempts to keep him alive..I dont think that this is lack of moral fibre I think it is common sense in this day and age.........sadly.....



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It's not often I venture into violent thoughts but that lawyer should be hung by his short and curlies.



As to supermarket thief, it is not so much of thieving but careless supermarket staff. If they paid the workers a better wage and actually trained their staff, perhaps they would attract more alert stuff.



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Like Newscoop, I hardly think that the actions of one couple should be used to castigate an entire nation - they stole a piece of cheese, hardly a case of genocide. When measured against other crimes that get committed here, it is small beer.



Just my opinion of course



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Glad I don't use Supreme, every time I've been in there there have been winging brits in there so I no longer go in there.

As th the shoplifting it's a hard one, if you take action there's the rebuff and aftermath, if you don't you are slagged off by mentioning it on here.

Shame you couldn't get a photo then name and shame them!

As for blaming the supermarket, what do you want? the same as has happened at UK supermarkets with surveillance cameras, scanners and security guards on the doors (increasing the cost of goods to pay their wages)



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How do you know 100% they were English? Also, why didn't you - as you weren't up a back alley alone with them, but were in a supermarket with other people around - go up to them and say "excuse me - you have accidentally missed some cheese at the bottom of the trolley" even though you believe it was intentional. It would have forced them to give it to the cashier, saved them 'face' and they would have had no obvious reason in light of your politeness, to be rude or offensive to you.



Deniz1


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Yes name snd shame i say. Why stop using a supermarket because the customers are wingeing? I use supreme because i like what i can buy and am treated with respect. Dont listen to the moaners just do your shopping.



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The unfortunate fact of life is that these people have betrayed the trust that most supermarkets have in their customers. In the supermarkets that we shop in the operators are willing to accept what we tell them with regards to multiple purchases of items that would be cumbersome to off load onto the counter. Never once have we been challenged and the check out staff have always accepted our quantities. But there again we are honest. I would hate to see that spoilt because of a couple of people that have decided they want to save some money. It does not matter whether they are English/Irish/Scottish/Russian/Turks/CT's, the fact is when it starts to happen it will change the way of life out here in the TRNC for ever.



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I am not condoning what these people did, a thief is a thief, but on the other foot how many people have posted on here, that they have been short changed at supermarket tills.So AJ perhaps a bit of dishonesty by some girls on tills could change the TRNC way of life



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Two wrongs dont make it right.



Pugwash


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Disgraceful behaviour.



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The unfortunate fact of life is that these people have betrayed the trust that most supermarkets have in their customers. In the supermarkets that we shop in the operators are willing to accept what we tell them with regards to multiple purchases of items that would be cumbersome to off load onto the counter. Never once have we been challenged and the check out staff have always accepted our quantities



Where's this then, AJ?



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OldDogs you really should be ashamed of your inaction.



malsancak


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OldDogs, were they white and did it make you ashamed to be white?

Shrimp, where I live in England fairly well off middle class people (as I assume these were) wouldn't shoot you for pointing out they were shoplifting, they would apologise profusely, return the cheese and then try another supermarket

Cooper, when's le Dale going to stop posting cheesy comments, they are beginning to grate



Tiggy


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Pity you did not have a bit of a backbone and report them.



It's a wonder you never helped to carry the bags to the car (maybe that was stolen as well)



shrimp


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Malsancak, I strongly feel that sadly in this day and age it doesnt pay to interfere in any disputes........but I respect you opinion.



Panchocat


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Lots of critical comments aimed at OldDogs when actually, as it says in the post, it was his wife who witnessed this act of theft.

How many of you detractors would have intervened?

In posting here perhaps the poster was hoping that the thieves would feel ashamed of themselves. Though to be honest people willing to steal a pack of cheese probably would feel no remorse.

Could one of you pious critics be the thief? They do say the best form of defense is attack.............................



Very sad that the; "owt for nowt," mentality is becoming more apparent here.



malsancak


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Panchocat, it was the "ashamed to be English" that irritated me and Cooper 'e dam made me mad.



OldDogs


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Thank you Panchocat. I did find intervening difficult as it was my wife who was in the shop not me!

I am surprised at the attitude shown in some of the postings. It is not what happened after the event that is important but the fact that these people have, as AlsencakJack says, abused the trust bestowed in them by their adopted countrymen. These are not naughty children stealing sweets from the newsagents but middle aged people who presumeably came here for a better life and should themselves know better . So yes I am ashamed and so should the rest of the expat community be. Or doesn't it matter?



steveafc


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what a ridiculous post:(



Panchocat


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I guess it was a fair assumption that they were English if Mrs OldDogs heard them speak. We can all, I suspect, differentiate between the accents of the UK countries and Ireland!



Still a valid post from OldDogs and I think, IMHO, he was right to bring the subject to the forum.



Panchocat


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steveafc.



WHY?

What is ridiculous about the post?



shrimp


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a post about honesty is definately a worthwhile post..............dont understand why it is ridiculous..........



pollymarples


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Love it - all morally superior over a lump of cheese, yet when a home is up for grabs by a Bank HISS



A theft is a theft, whether it is keeping your change, stealing their cheese, or grabbing a home.



H I S S that's all the hot air expelling.



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I once came upon a supermarket employee who took deodorent from a shelf, sprayed down the front of his shirt, and under his armpits then sheepishly put it back on the shelf when he noticed that I had seen him. Subsequently I have seen other employees doing the same thing well knowing that you have noted what they are up to. This follows once buying a bottle of toilet cleaner which other than a mild smell of bleach had obviously been used and refilled with water when I tried to make use of it at home. My latest observation is to see two employees take a polish treated sponge and take it in turns to clean each other shoes without taking them off then replace the item on the shelf for sale. When I said to them "spotted" they simply shrugged and walked off. No, I did not take these matters up with management having done so before to be told that I was questioning their honour to suggest that they would employ such staff and that I was racist !



martinD41


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I think there are more realistic reasons to be ashamed of being British..Have a flick through the History Books..



Panchocat


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Today's actions are tomorrow's history!



Pugwash


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Gosh Martin D41 you really know history don't you?



malsancak


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if we keep off topic, this thread will soon become history



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History is a thing of the past.....Move on for god's sake.



martinD41


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pigwash...I see joviality in any form good or bad is not your strong point .....Who ever took the cheese let it be on his/her conscience.... Personally I find the whole episode unexceptional and unworthy of discussion........



Pugwash


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Theft is theft martin D41 how it is dealt with is another issue.



As to message 28 well we all know your agenda and feelings which is ok but they do not apply to each and every thread PM or have any relevance.



AlsancakJack



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denizen

Ref message 16:



'Where's this then, AJ?'



Do you not mean 'where are they then, AJ?'

All three markets are within the environs of Alsancak Village.



jamestalbot


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I am ashamed of being English when I see some of the drunken Brits in bars and restaurants, their behaviour is disgusting and often rude to the staff.



Yes I do like a drink myself before someone accuses s me of being anti drink.



martinD41


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msg38...Quite right, but are they pilfering the drinks?



laptatim


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old dogs

why did you not report them if you are so concerned instead of reporting it on this forum

have you nothing better to do



jamestalbot


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message 39 are you trying to say just because they are not has you say "pilfering the drinks " their behaviour is acceptable, I think not.



It reflects on the rest of the Brit community, and I do not want to be associated with Brits who are p....d out of their minds in public, the British already have a bad name for this Europe wide.



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Very well said James. Reading this thread I am somewhat disappointed that I did not witness this myself ! And a little worried that maybe some of us could befriend such people one day and Oooops our silver has gone missing...SHAME on them and all who think along the same lines..





Spider,X



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Well done old dogs, good post, it has given us all something to think about. We all have 20/20 hindsight. how many times have we reconstructed what we should have done/said. incidents happen too quickly for considered action.



Let's all take a step back and think what we would do if we saw it happen again



We will all be tarred by the same brush here



Panchocat


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IbrahimAbi,



Well said, excellent comment.



Laptatim read the original post. He wasn't in the shop so how could he report them?



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AJ



You find it immoral to steal from a supermarket, yes? - So do I..



You don't seem to condone other types of theft - that also may give 'TRNC' a bad name...



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I have on 3 occasions in my life stepped in when I have seen shop lifting. reporting it to security and even telling someone to put a leg of lamb back in Safeways, this resulted in a wrestling match and a pinfall till security came in to rescue the situation. Joe public as usual just stood back and watched but not prepared to help.



Once I was in a Post office Queue in Kentish town and the elderly man in front of me made a groaning noise and keeled over. He stopped breathing and turned grey in front of my eyes. I tried to resusitate him but he was pronounced dead after the paramedics had taken over. What was the most horrible thing was the onlookers who did not lift a finger and were stepping over him and me to get to the counter to be served.



"excuse me love.....you forgot to pay for the cheese" !



P. Just a caring citizen



pollymarples


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Thanks pugwash - nice to know that stealing of K5's property has now become 'my agenda', so boring for you, theft is theft whether the item is small or large, and unless I am sorely mistaken, this thread is about theft,

be it only small cheese.



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Theft is theft and in the end costs the honest amongst us more.



I was shocked to hear that a resident Brit had been stealing water from his Brit neighbour as they only use their house as a holiday home. They were caught in the act but once again those that caught the thief chose to keep quiet about it to the victim but word soon gets round over here.



Sadly the situation in the UK and elsewhere has taught us to look the other way and not get involved.



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We only assume they were British,,They could easily have been "CURDS by the WHEY"



pollymarples


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He who sees, and looks the other way,

Will himself be the victim one day.



Pauline Read



denizen



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Do you not mean 'where are they then, AJ?'



All three markets are within the environs of Alsancak Village.



Well, they would trust you AJ, they've named their village after you.

besides, you look honest



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What a laugh, all over a piece of cheese, I really believe many other people in that situation would have done the same as that couple, in the Supreme, but OF COURSE, would never admit it.

Shoplifting might be one issue, BUT the prices charged by Supermarkets in The TRNC is daylight robbery in itself, IMPORTED or not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



As for Panochats remark "COULD ONE OF YOU PIOUS CRITICS BE THE THIEF" this a highly negative statement, fancy suspecting your fellow forum members of theft, you should be ashamed of yourself, you have no right to accuse anyone of anything I certainly would not want to know you in an ideal world, or any world in fact.

Build a bridge and get over it, i tend to agree what a waste of time this thread is, people are starving and dying in this world, i'm afraid theft is a big problem, but there are far worse. Believe me i know first hand. PEACE MAN PEACE



AnthonySmith


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A couple stole a slab of cheese. They knew. That is wrong. Not a nationality thing, just a cheek.

Old Dog's wife was in the store, saw it, but didn't say anything.

She could have.

She could have then had the abuse from a couple who were prepared to sneak a piece of cheese out. Would she have had the support from the shop staff? Possibly not.

I would probably have made a joke. Oh, you've forgotten the cheese. But it's easy to say when you're not in that position.

The attitude of some forum members is very strange.



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Glad to see Bazaargirl has no understanding of tongue in cheek humour! Which my quoted comment followed by a string of dots clearly was!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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This thread is about cheese theft...right?



It has had 55 posts so far and over 1700 views.



I bet the next thread dealing with property auctions etc will have less traffic !



sienna


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poorolddog anyone would think they stole the cheese! probably couldn't believe their eyes



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You might be right cronos but if you hadn't posted would only have had 54 posts...right?



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So much negativity Panochat, get a life why not make yourself a nice cheese toastie and relax!!!!!!!!!!



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So much shock and horror at the 'theft' of a small piece of cheese, yet how many of those who purport to be shocked and ashamed at such an action live in a property which, at least in the eyes of international law, does not belong to them ??



Just a thought ?????



Regards



Paul



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cooper...msg 57



And your post just added to the tally !



This could run and run.



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Im cheesed off with this, im just off to have a honest cheese sandwich, by the way Paul good thought.



Panchocat


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Bazaargirl, thanks for your concern.



I have a lovely life in the TRNC.



I have great friends, positively fantastic neighbours and Fab restaurants close by.



Negativity? Nope! I don't have time for that!



Hope your "time share" is going well.



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I am not shocked, not surprised, not even horrified, however, to compare it with house ownership here is a bit thin. At least those living in their homes 'they dont own in the eyes of the world' have paid for the privilege, which is more than the 'rats' who stole the cheese did.



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msg 63 that is saying buying stolen goods is ok then ?



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You really do such a great life dont you? spending half your time on here and the rest down the happy valley, signing off over and outxx



Panchocat


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Is it Birchington or Bitchington?



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Well I have read all your comments and all I have to say on the subject is that I am NOT ashamed to be white or British or anything else.



The most important thing is that I am not a thief. Let them thieve I say, then they will be caught and hopefully locked up and punished. A whole nation cannot be judged on the actions of a few.



What a boring post this was!



Panchocat


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Well it caused a lot of discussion before it wandered off thread, which is surely the point of a forum.



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Sorry about the cat and pigeons but...



Making a song and dance about some thieving Brit lowlifes, while living in property that was stolen from its owners?



That is illogical, captain.



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message 69,



The thread is about a theft of cheese!! Don't go off topic.



And the members on here to my knowledge own their properties and have not stolen them!



Chris



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So you do not consider, breaking into Pauline's locked and secured villa, without a Court Order, changing the locks, isolating the electrical supply and switching it off as theft, I suppose you dont consider trying to run someone over whilst making their escape an attempted theft of life. A villa she had contracted for and paid good money. True no one on this thread has STOLEN property, but certainly someone on this thread has had property STOLEN.



Sorry pugwash, back on my agenda - which is sort of is on thread since Nurseawaful brought it up. Pauline cannot get into HER house, the keys do not fit. Just larger CHEESE, a lump of cheese being small cheese.



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Re message 70



"The thread is about a theft of cheese!! Don't go off topic."



Actually Chris, the thread is about being ashamed to be English because of the actions of someone who stole a piece of cheese.



As for my comment re ownership of houses. I was careful not to accuse anyone of stealing their property but was merely trying to point out the hyprocrisy of those who feel disgust at the actions of a fellow Brit whilst technically at least, living in a property/on land that may have been 'stolen' from its' legal owner.



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Paul



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fiendishpaul, don't you mean abandoned by it's original owner then taken as the 'spoils' of war, just as the land abandoned by the TC's in the south was taken by the GC's as the spoils of war. quid pro quo.



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re 63



How 'convenient'



>>to compare it with house ownership here is a bit thin. <<



How so..it is entirely appropriate..





>>At least those living in their homes 'they dont own in the eyes of the world' have paid for the privilege, which is more than the 'rats' who stole the cheese did.<<



When you knowingly buy a stolen car from someone who isn't the rightful owner - would you be able to argue that the true owner couldn't have it back..?



We BOTH know the answer..



>>don't you mean abandoned by it's original owner then taken as the 'spoils' of war<<



I'd LOVE to see you try THAT one in a recognised EU Court of law and see how far you get... !





For SURE.. the GCs should have piled in to the IPC and we'd see a very different attitude to the one currently prevalent.



Continue to kid yourself...



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Shop em !!



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Bring back the birch.......................



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This thread should be split into at least two distinct threads.



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Polly



Re Msg 73



My intention was not to get into the 'property' debate but as for your comment "don't you mean abandoned by it's original owner then taken as the 'spoils' of war" - I am sorry, but no, I can't subscribe to that analogy, just as I don't subscribe to what has happened to TC property in the South.



Two wrongs do not make a right.



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Paul



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msg 69, If Enosis had not been on the menu....then the filthy brits would never have been in the supermarket stealing cheese, it would still be a field !



Good idea about making it in to a song and dance....you make up some lyrics and I will do the choreography for it.



Anyone have an ideas for the title...... "Stop in the name of theft" by "The Supremes Supermarket"



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The arguing here should make a lot of you feel more ashamed than any shoplifter ever could



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I really can't understand how anyone can compare a perfectly understandable thread about shoplifting with buying a house on exchange land. mmmmm you really can be a bore



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this topic does raise some moral issues though

I get the feeling that" do as I say not I as do springs to mind "



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oldDogs

' take themselves and their thieving ways back to England where such actions seem to have become more acceptable.'



Speak for your own friends and relatives back home,please.If it has become acceptable to them ,then keep better company.

Thieving has not become acceptable to anyone I know,and my own children were certainly never taught that it was .

Thieving is no more acceptable in England than in Cyprus by most ordinary law abiding people.

By the way UK house broken into twice in 40 years .In Cyprus once in 8 years. Dont know nationalities of those

involved in either case .



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Btw how expensive is cheese there ?



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I am British! I am not ashamed to be British! I am proud to be British!



Unfortunately there is a minorty, like the theiving couple in Msg.1 that bring GREAT BRITAIN's name into disrepute.

It's a pity their misdemeanor was'nt pointed out to the checkout staff?

I certainly hope the cheese gives them food poisoning.



"More cheese Gromit"



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mess 85............



Great Britian ceased being Great when the gov't allowed cheap foreign imports to kick the stuffing out of the manufacturing industry and had an imigration policy like a laurel and hardy film.........



but, as uncle percy once said - once you open pandora's box - you can't shut the lid and hope everything will be all right................



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msg85Are you suggesting that "Great Britain" became "Great" without "STEALING" Anything ??.....I think not



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Yes but Great Britain is giving it all back with interest by way of hand outs to all and sundry!!! :=)



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msg86.....Was your Uncle Percy a mate of Enoch's....He sounds like a pretty bright chap,bless him...



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msg88 Would that be the All and sundry,that "Great Britain" once called Empire.....pay back time!!...........



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Hi Rob Let me re-phrase that. I am English! I am not ashamed to be English! I am proud to be English!

And i agree Britain stole many things in her chequered history, what made her GREAT! was we were bloody good at it!!! better than most countries who also stole, raped, pillaged etc, to get where they are today.



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Hi Billy...A have to agree....Have a lovely Day



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From The Queen's Royal Lancers Website:







Goodbye to my England , So long my old friend



Your days are numbered, being brought to an end



To be Scottish, Irish or Welsh that's fine



But don't say you're English, that's way out of line.



The French and the Germans may call themselves such



So may Norwegians, the Swedes and the Dutch



You can say you are Russian or maybe a Dane



But don't say you're English ever again..



At Broadcasting House the word is taboo



In Brussels it's scrapped, in Parliament too



Even schools are affected, staff do as they're told



They must not teach children about England of old.



Writers like Shakespeare, Milton and Shaw



The pupils don't learn about them anymore



How about Agincourt, Hastings , Arnhem or Mons ?



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When England lost hosts of her very brave sons.



We are not Europeans, how can we be?



Europe is miles away over the sea



We're the English from England , let's all be proud



Stand up and be counted - Shout it out loud !



Let's tell our Government and Brussels too



We're proud of our heritage and the Red, White and Blue



Fly the flag of Saint George or the Union Jack



Let the world know - WE WANT OUR ENGLAND BACK !!!!



Apologies for going off the thread slightly...



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Very good,.."We Want our "ENGLAND BACK"!!!!! so what about the Welsh and Scots....?........



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This thread is titled Ashamed of being English...



The Welsh, Scots and Irish are really nice people.



Should ask the Royal Welsh Fusiliers, Royal Scots Greys and the Royal Irish Rifles to pen some similar verse.



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I don't think the Irish ,Scott's,and Welsh are remotely interested in whether English people are Ashamed or Not...............



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Lol.. agree with you on that one...



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Shame at the football on Sat

both crowds booed each others national anthems

( Wales v England)



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The Welsh started it !!!!



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The English cricket team should be well ashamed at their dismal performance in the way they capitulated to Ceylon. They now leave it up to one of their smaller Dominions to finish off the job! Alas, little hope on that score, but April 25th approaches!



Richard



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dont be ashamed to be british , they werent that respectable were they ? and its not your fault , theyre thieves , not you ,



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mess 55 - "cheese is always interesng" - uncle percy (nov 11 1984)............................



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It is always the same thing when you have a dominant country within a small group.... England has been supporting and running our satellite countries for decades; in truth what does Wales have that would enable it to operate properly without its handouts from England? For the countries that are being supported I guess the shame sometimes boils over and that is why there is so much anti-English feeling on here. As soon as England lose at something, like the rugby match recently and despite winning the tournament, people are on it like a rash. It is 'biting the hand that feeds' of course and one day perhaps the English will wake up to it and put a stop to feeding money over the borders only for the recipients to resent us for doing so. Crazy really.



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At Tempo's supermarket,Chatalkoy on Thursday week past there was an British woman stopped in the car park by the manager. She had been shoplifting.

In full view of all, her bag was searched and the goods placed on the ground.

Our friend, a TC, assisted as interpreter and when he came back he told us, my wife and I, that the lady had said her husband had left her and returned to England and he had not given her any money and this was the first time she had done anything like this.

On being searched in the shop it was found that she had quite a bit of Sterling in her purse and when the management made some calls to other supermarkets at Lapta and Karshaka they said they knew her.

She was made to pay for the goods and left.

Our TC friend who at first was sorry for her had a different attitude when it was finished.



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Sounds like she was very lucky!



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She would have been arrested in the uk shame on her



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