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davidoff


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Message Posted:
20/09/2008 21:58

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Hi all,



Does anyone have any news as yet about the orams recent appeal trial?



I thought it was supposed to be on 19th sept 08?



Any news would be great??



Take care d



Turtle


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20/09/2008 22:20

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David, there were a thread about this a few days ago.

I think the outcome was delayed til after any reunification talks ?



rocky


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20/09/2008 23:06

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Turtle Davidoff is not a David she is a woman take care what you say I upset her once



Turtle


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20/09/2008 23:11

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oops sorry................ should have checked first.

Thanks for the tip



rocky


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20/09/2008 23:20

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Davidoff I think we all know that some compensation will be payable going forward and with reunification we dont know what that will be. When the unknowns have disappeared there should be considerable appreciation in the property values in NC as there will be more people prepared to purchase. It is a beautiful place but overdevelopment could spoil it. What I dont understand is why the end buyer should suffer the whole compensation bill afterall SWB and someone else will have made a profit before you so perhaps a backdated Capital Gains Tax is appropriate on all deals. Although I would only buy a new build I could not purchase an old propert which may have been stolen from the Greeks the Turks Richard THe Lionheart or the Ottoman??? who really owns NC?? I guess although I am buying new who originally owned the land??



norths4me


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21/09/2008 00:25

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OMG TOCHE TURTLE DID U CALL DAVIDOFF DAVID! I may have called her that once or twice myself but dont think she noticed



rocky


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21/09/2008 00:28

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norths for me she did and she knows your unit number just watch out and dont make any sexist jokes



norths4me


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21/09/2008 00:38

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Rocky ive met her and she is looking forward to meeting you!



davidoff


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21/09/2008 00:39

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Hi all,



Dont worry guys Im not one to hold a grudge??



My bark is worse than my bite!!



But beware for the future as you can run but you cant hide??



SWB site is big but not that big??



Take care d



P.S- I presume that most women in this day and age dont take too lightly to sexist remarks???



cooper


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21/09/2008 10:47

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This link explains more - http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/5527.asp



Cooper



PtePike



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21/09/2008 11:03

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rocky: "What I dont understand is why the end buyer should suffer the whole compensation bill afterall SWB and someone else will have made a profit before you so perhaps a backdated Capital Gains Tax is appropriate on all deals. Although I would only buy a new build I could not purchase an old propert which may have been stolen from the Greeks the Turks Richard THe Lionheart or the Ottoman??? who really owns NC?? I guess although I am buying new who originally owned the land??2



It's not all that different from buying stolen property, for example a ringed car. If the police catch someone in possession the person will have to convince officers they didn't know they were handling stolen goods otherwise they face being charged and prosecuted. I think paying compensation as civil remedy is much more preferable than criminal proceedings. After all, anyone who buys a property in North Cyprus knows full well what they are doing and what happened to the legal owners of most of the land.



Paulkay


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21/09/2008 12:04

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The compenstion bill, if it go`s ahead

Would this depend on what you have bought.

i.e. if you bought just land would you pay a % on the land for what you paid for it?

same system for a villa,and what happens if you have bought a flat or villa on a complex?

I also through that there was a pocket of money set aside from the goverment for any compenstion.

Paul&Kay



PtePike



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21/09/2008 13:59

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Money set aside from the government is wishful thinking, IMO. They're sking and the priority is their own people and the Turks.



andre 514


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21/09/2008 14:13

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pvt pike msg 11



everybody in england is living on property



most definately "stolen" from nameless celts in the 6th century



besides, the queen holds absolute title...



as regards cyprus, selling-on a villa or flat is not depriving anyone



since the trnc supposedly has laws in place to stop anyone else



claiming residential rights...



although the property could hypothetically figure in any peace deal



as regards the jurisdiction of courts in the south over the north



this notion fell in 2006 at the high court although the validity of article 10



has not yet been "finally" endorsed by the court of human rights



lastly while not claiming to occupy one person's "moral high ground"



I very much doubt people will be falling off chairs because of it



at nameless dinner parties in the home counties



can we move on perhaps?



andre



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