How do expat TCs go about buying a small place safely

brother



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Message Posted:
28/02/2011 23:08

We discuss the difficulties of expats from the UK in buying property in NC. I wonder what it's like for expat TCs. Do they have an entirely different market in which they operate. For example, those who want to buy a house in a village away from the tourist areas (on land that was TC before 1974).



Do they also suffer from the reported issues with process, swindlers etc.



Over to the floor for debate

gooligan


Joined: 30/01/2007
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Message Posted:
28/02/2011 23:33

No difficulty at all in Palmers Green

brother



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Message Posted:
28/02/2011 23:52

Msg.2 I meant those that buy in NC either having returned or indeed were born to TC parents elsewhere.

negativenick


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Message Posted:
01/03/2011 05:27

mess 1 - a TC can get their deeds the day the sale goes through -so no problem there...



Just problems with shoddy construction, 3rd world utilities, litter and shite dumped everywhere, lack of choice in the shops, cost of living spiriling out of control..............

Tenakoutou



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Message Posted:
01/03/2011 07:28

I have an TC old friend who bought offplan from a certain [allegedly] notorious company [with a Mexican sounding name - the second word isn't 'Claus'!]. He cannot get his title deed [kocan], because the site has not been parcelised and, last time we were in touch, he told me the mortgage still hasn't been lifted. The house looked fine when just finished - you should see it now! Talk about shoddy construction! It is leaking rain in from all the windows and the damp has crept up the walls due to not having been damp-coursed, so all the plaster has 'exploded'. The swimming pool, an overflow type, was never built level, so that, when full, the water only goes to one corner - it wasn't even a case of the pool sinking - it was built like that. There is an enormous hole in the road outside his front gate, his underground water tank has collapsed, leaving a big hole in the garden - need I go on?



Returning TC's being conned? - You can bet your life on it!

brother



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Message Posted:
01/03/2011 12:41

Msg. 5: A good example I suppose (nice to be able to have some non childish responses unlike some other messages in the thread). The key thing is that this was a new build example. It would be interesting to hear from TC folks who have bought not so recently built property or TC land in a village.

breezyboy


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Posts: 1179

Message Posted:
01/03/2011 17:08

Brother

I would have thought it would be easy to buy pre-owned from another TC who holds pre 74 title in his own name. That should be really simple and surely no deeds, no money.

dizzycows


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Message Posted:
01/03/2011 18:18

From what I have been told by NC returning, they are treated harder than an expat English.

YFred


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Message Posted:
01/03/2011 18:23

Bought a plot in Gonyeli, pre-74 Turkish land and built on it with no problems what so ever. The trick is to get a local to do the deal. As soon as they hear the London accent, they begin sharpening the knives.

Tenakoutou



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Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
01/03/2011 18:43

YFred/Msg 9:



Ya got it in ONE, Sport!



Oh, and the machetes!

brother



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Message Posted:
01/03/2011 18:47

YFred, there is a prospect of me owning a small "foot-hold" (my old mum sees it as some sort of birthright). Hence the question.

Are you saying a London accent in terms of Turkish that is detectably not spoken often

elko2



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Message Posted:
01/03/2011 20:02

There are two main differences between British Expats and the locals:

1. The locals do not need any PTP.

2. The expats always go to a lawyer before signing the contracts, the locals go to lawyers after they are in trouble.



The result: the expats suffer mostly throıugh no fault of their own, the locals suffer mostly through their own faults.

ismet

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
01/03/2011 20:34

that,s not quite fair ismet abi ,i bought off plan and and have been through the same problems as ex pat,s ,ofcouse i did not need ptp ,but did have to get my kimlik and had to get kimlik for my youngest son who is half irish .



Still when i do finally make the move to cyprus i will be building my own house with my own hands in my own time a busmans holiday you could say ,but this build i am going to enjoy.



musin



long live the kktc

brother



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Message Posted:
01/03/2011 20:58

Chaps, what exactly does "kimlik" mean in English please?

yorgozlu



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Message Posted:
01/03/2011 22:03

kimlik=identitiy.

brother



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Message Posted:
01/03/2011 23:26

Msg.15 Yorgozlu: I got as far as "kim" but the context of "kimlik" and "kimin" got me in the end

Thanks, I appreciate it.

kavenkoy


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Message Posted:
02/03/2011 06:46

message4



the thailand tourism board ?what about your ladyboys







kav

mamachina


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Message Posted:
02/03/2011 11:56

The kocan survey that the BRS has been doing has had replies from TC's and now the Overseas Cyps have a website they can go to, to fill in the questionnaire as well. They asked for it! So one presumes some of them go through the same problems re kocan, mortgages, memos etc

Zoots


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Message Posted:
02/03/2011 19:24

"...to fill in the questionnaire as well."



I don't see why the guy on the door should get a kicking.

YFred


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Message Posted:
03/03/2011 14:31

Brother,

A TC from London sticks out like a sore thumb and is an open invitation to be conned. I saw some shishes once in a shop just outside the Bandobulio, and did not buy them as run out of TL. The following week I was there with my wife and she did not even speak, he knew we were Londoners, the price was 5 times the previous week. When I challenged him about the price the previous week, he accused me of accusing him of being a liar, which of course he was. Needless to say he did not make the sale that day and have never been to him since.

Before the property sales to the English community, the main customers were TCs from London. They had worst deals. The same property was being sold to 5 different people.

brother



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Message Posted:
03/03/2011 16:25

Msg20,YFred: I can understand the annoyance of such behaviour. I can also understand the desperation that drives such behaviour. The I don't understand is the response when challenged - the "passing trade" approach to selling.

The accounts of restaurant owners being rude to complaining customers certainly shocks those of us used to the "customer is always right" environment. I would have thought that the competition would make people realise how they need to keep customers happy.



I'm getting ready for "treatment" when I come over in May