I Lost All Hope of TRNC

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
08/03/2011 21:00

I could not believe my ears when I heard it this morning. Apparently when the civil servants go on strike they get paid half a salary from the government. Anything they can get from their union is extra.



ismet

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
08/03/2011 21:03

tax payers money going down the pan , then some .

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
08/03/2011 21:08

And they think they are capable of being Independent.......... UNBELIEVABLE!!

YFred


Joined: 06/05/2009
Posts: 1471

Message Posted:
08/03/2011 21:26

And I left a perfectly socialist country to live in a third world country. What a mistake.



Can we stop having a go at civil service. Just because they sit about palying tavla all day. Perhaps we can introduce it into the olympics. We are bound to win.

Stonehousepub


Joined: 21/05/2009
Posts: 755

Message Posted:
08/03/2011 21:30

msg 1



ismet abi, I cannot understand why you are so suprised.



For the civil servants in the TRNC it's is all about the money, unfortunately they are so wrapped up in their own little world that they do not have the common sense to realise that they are their own worst enemy !!



They are a waste of space & money, the sooner privatisation begins the better it will be for everyone....

ant33


Joined: 28/08/2010
Posts: 381

Message Posted:
08/03/2011 21:42

100 % True stonehousepub, "They are a waste of space & money" All they think about their salary at the end of the month and their retirement after 25 years of nothing to show for. Drink COFFEE and RABBIT with eahother or talk to their friends on the phone(If they turn up for workplace(not for work)).

TRNC needs complete change over, get rid of them ALL!!

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
08/03/2011 22:25

Elko



I am not surprised. My gripe with a paricular group is, why has it taken them 18 months so far and have not yet come to inspect my property and register it on the land? I have been told that I may have to pay loads of money for them and do it quickly. They've had 18 months so far!

birdman



Joined: 20/09/2010
Posts: 690

Message Posted:
08/03/2011 23:19

Paid for being "On Strike" whatever next ?.

Privatise the government, that's what I say !

No more politicians or civil servants, sack the lot and privatise !!!!

Ooooops, is that called communism ?

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
08/03/2011 23:31

The mind boggles!

paddywack


Joined: 04/05/2009
Posts: 959

Message Posted:
08/03/2011 23:36

Msg 9

no, common sense

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
08/03/2011 23:38

You can say that again.

Marion


Joined: 06/03/2011
Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 01:08

But if Turkey ever withdraws funding, the Civil Servants will very quickly become uncivil as they will get no pay at all. Most people have to earn their money from something which generates money. Whilst I sympathise with what they feel are their rights, I am fearful of long term consequences to the country - the country for which they are supposed to be working towards improving.



I will work that one out in my dreams/nightmares, cos at the moment I am too brain dead to fathom how you can go on strike and be paid - seems like throwing gold nuggets back into the river.

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 04:41

for once, i'm speechless......................

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 06:21

Since half the Civil Service pay is still a lot more than the minimum wage the decent hard working TC's and Turkish people get, what incentive is there for these most uncivil servants to return to work. I road past

Girne District Court yesterday afternoon and saw the picket line 'sitting' outside in the sunshine just nattering away, drinking their coffee and soft drinks and thought to myself, well no change there then except they are sitting outside doing sweet f.a. rather than inside doing s.a. as they do when they are 'working'. Now Ismet tells us that get paid for doing that too. Having a tin barf. Well when their little world implodes, I expect they will blame Turkey for that too. Now where else do they think it is never their fault - could it be in the south??

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 07:27

elko2/Msg 1: This is all the more reprehensible when one considers the ludicrous costs and bureaucratic barriers which are forced on the poor people who are struggling to survive in small business and service industries. Add to that the huge tax burden, import duty and Customs Tariffs, monthly accountants fees, etc., etc., all levied to help to support this annually burgeoning, idle Civil Service and it's no wonder there is no decent inward investment, because most businesses are hardly sustainable, unless you're lucky enough to have some franchise like, for example, 'Coca Cola'. What is the chance for economic growth under such a top heavy system? The answer, of course, is nil, zilch - bugger all!

Geoff


Joined: 25/06/2008
Posts: 1370

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 07:29

Cream Quackers!!

Geoff

Famagusta City.

lovinit


Joined: 20/06/2008
Posts: 745

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 07:38

Welcome to the reality of TRNC !!!!!!!!!!

lovinit


Joined: 20/06/2008
Posts: 745

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 07:40

cont...

a civil servant said the other day to me......when we were younger we had nothing so they owe it to us..........



were does this Mentality come from......i have no idea

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 08:28

So the government is subsidising strikes. Now I wonder who is responsible for that? Oh yes, it's the government not the strikers. I'm amazed they don't go on strike permanently and take a part-time job to make up their money to a full salary.

Or more likely, it just isn't true.

Elko said, "I heard it this morning" but from whom? Wasn't the government was it, trying to discredit itself so there is a vote of no confidence, a snap election and all the UBP MPs can retire on their ridiculously high pensions?

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 09:23

msg. 9

Malsancak,

My source is "Advocate Gunes Mentesh". I did question him if he was sure and he was absolutely sure. Then I questioned a civil servant about this and he thought it was correct. "Of course they should get paid. Civil servants have a right to strike, its their human rights. Why should they be punished for using their basic rights. They must have the means to survive even when on strike". This is the prevaling mentality.

ismet

birdman



Joined: 20/09/2010
Posts: 690

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 11:27

Yes, they should have the "Basic Right to Strike", but any salary should be forfieited on striking (Your choice), and any cash reimbursements should come from their unions funds totally.

Your means of surviving whilst on strike is your own choice as is your choice to go on strike but you can't have your cake and eat it at others expense otherwise what is to stop you being permenantly on strike and yet expecting to get a salary?

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 11:41

What do you expect? Every TC in the TRNC has been beholden to Turkey since 1974. Turkey is responsible for leadership in the north. It has provided none and encouraged no enterprise - just a dependency culture, victim status and subsidy junkies.

Some of the best talent in the TC community has evaporated in the brain drain to find a better life overseas. Some enterprising TCs have returned but not enough. Of course, Turkey and her puppets in the TRNC government try and conveniently blame all ills on the "embargo". But that's rubbish. You can get anything you want here if you have the money.

The truth is an artificial state that produces nothing and whose economy is controlled by a foreign country will never succeed. How can you blame the civil servants when they haven't been given any incentives or encouragement apart from having money thrown at them to keep them sweet? What would you do in their position? Damn sure you'd take the money if you had no future.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 11:43

NN "for once, i'm speechless......................"



I hope the strike lasts indefinitely!

caulkhead


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 149

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 15:11

Groucho - from your last comment I take it you mean the same amount of work will get done but the wage bill will be halved!!

YFred


Joined: 06/05/2009
Posts: 1471

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 16:27

Noo, you got it wrong. He wishes the silence of NN.

Try listening to sound of silence but not the Simon and Garfunkel version

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 23:07

I spoke to an active member of CTP and he told me that the 50% pay on strike is not true. However he said that "warning strikes lasting one day" are on full pay. Whatever!!!

ismet

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 23:18

elko2 (mess26)



I lost all hope for the TRNC 5 years ago!

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 23:20

Unbeleivable but if Gunes told you then I di beleive in him xxxx