Little Girls Belly dancing

turkan


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Message Posted:
11/03/2011 00:02

Girls will have fun learning to belly dance. A mini make over with glitter & sparkles will add to their magical experience.



We start the event by decorating them with face jewels, glitter & hip scarves to get the magic going. I will dance for them so they can see what fun is in store. We will go over some of the basic movements and steps. Then by getting them to follow me, the movements will become a dance.



15tl for the hour



A great mother daughter experience, If your interest to include your child please email - turkan2001@hotmail.com

hollylou


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Message Posted:
11/03/2011 07:55

where is this

crofter


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Message Posted:
11/03/2011 08:05

Turkan.....my granddaughter [7] would love to do this.....whereabouts will you be holding the classes please?

turkan


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Message Posted:
11/03/2011 09:02

This will be held in central girne at cream bar, either downstairs or on the roof terrace.

Please forward interest to my email as im collecting everyone to inform the dates

turkan


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Message Posted:
11/03/2011 09:09

Just to add to this, I have a one year old and when she sees me dance its so much eye sti

mulation for her she loves it especially seeing the veil swirl.when I say little girl they can be this young its great for their senses, sound and visuals

turkan


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Message Posted:
11/03/2011 12:11

Thanks those have mailed

turkan


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Message Posted:
12/03/2011 16:13

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turkan


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Message Posted:
13/03/2011 10:04

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fishh


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Message Posted:
13/03/2011 14:54

will this be weekends or after school time

turkan


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Message Posted:
13/03/2011 18:37

It will be a suitable tim taking school into account, most likely a saturday

turkan


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Message Posted:
14/03/2011 11:13

Im still collecting interest

turkan


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15/03/2011 11:37

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turkan


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16/03/2011 11:32

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turkan


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Message Posted:
16/03/2011 11:35

The date is set now 16 april, at cream bar, central girne, 2-3pm, email me for the programme and book yourself in

turkan


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Message Posted:
16/03/2011 23:29

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clarey


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Message Posted:
17/03/2011 00:01

I will post an honest reply, i think i speak for most mothers when i say . . . . . . i brought my daughters here from england to live like little girls, and be like little girls!! please dont get me wrong, i love the culture, the life, the dancing!!! but please let children be children!!!

clarey


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Message Posted:
17/03/2011 00:27

379 people have read this, but no comments?????????

clarey


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Message Posted:
17/03/2011 00:37

i have just joined! sorry, i know it is the culture, i am not trying to disprect it, i really enjoy it, i just think it should be aimed at older children!!! sparkles and glitter!!!! on those beautiful innocent faces!!! why??

clarey


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Message Posted:
17/03/2011 00:42

and if i am honest nobody has looked at this since 2008!!! i was just trying to browse before i joined!!!

philbailey


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Message Posted:
17/03/2011 00:45

clarey take more water with it



I am sure turkan will do ok

clarey


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Message Posted:
17/03/2011 00:49

you cheeky bugger

clarey


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Message Posted:
17/03/2011 00:53

not being funny but would anybody really take their 2 10 year old daughters to CREAM BAR, or am i really just an old mum????? i am only 33

philbailey


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Message Posted:
17/03/2011 00:54

msg 22 whose daughter is 210 year old ?

clarey


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Message Posted:
17/03/2011 00:57

i meant 10 year old!!! sorry slip of the finger!!!

clarey


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Message Posted:
17/03/2011 01:08

i think your just arrogant!!!!

Pogle


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Message Posted:
17/03/2011 08:57

I am sure Tukan is well aware of the early sexualisation of young girls in the UK and her own professional responsibility when teaching her art to young girls. As mothers we all agree that North Cyprus is the ideal place to enjoy an innocent childhood. Sparkles and glitter are part of every little girls life, I can't see it does any harm for one hour on a Saturday afternoon to dress up and have fun. There are many benefits to learning belly dancing, which include creating positive self image and nurturing self expression, both very important for young girls development. Belly Dancing is an art form and part of the culture here, passed through the generations by the family.



There are very few organised activities for young children in the area and personally I think this initiative is to be applauded.

turkan


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Message Posted:
17/03/2011 16:00

Ah bless you what a beautiful appreciation of what mind set im looking to achieve, most things in life can be abused and bellydancing unfortunatly is one of them, used to manipulate. What I want is the little girls to enjoy the colour, sound, fun and thrill of it. To see me dance and capture the entertainment aspect of it and yes the culture continuing. It warms my heart to be noticed to be reinstalling a healthy mind on this subject of bellydance, be it for young or old.



Thank you pogle xx

turkan


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Message Posted:
17/03/2011 16:01

Ah bless you what a beautiful appreciation of what mind set im looking to achieve, most things in life can be abused and bellydancing unfortunatly is one of them, used to manipulate. What I want is the little girls to enjoy the colour, sound, fun and thrill of it. To see me dance and capture the entertainment aspect of it and yes the culture continuing. It warms my heart to be noticed to be reinstalling a healthy mind on this subject of bellydance, be it for young or old.



Thank you pogle xx

hollylou


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Message Posted:
17/03/2011 17:47

well said by both message 27 and 28

turkan


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Message Posted:
17/03/2011 20:28

Thanks hollylou

daisy dukes


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Message Posted:
17/03/2011 21:02

Please forgive me if i am wrong, but i have always been under the influence that bellydancing was a sexual dance that was performed to get the man in the mood...?



However several years later it is an accepted sort of keep fit programme designed to make women feel sexy...but still men find it sexually stimulating...is this really what you want your little girl practicing....?



I truly don't want to cause upset here, but i do think that this sort of provocative dancing should be kept hidden at least until the child has gone past puberty and is able to make up her/his own mind....

turkan


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Message Posted:
18/03/2011 01:20

i respect all views, yet I would prefer to stay away from debate.anyone who knows me knows me for morals and principles, I teach this art as a discipline that all adults and children need.

Please can you help me do that and keep debate at bay.

bigOz


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Message Posted:
18/03/2011 11:37

With all respects Turkan - I have no doubts about you good intentions and values - BUT I have to agree with the facts

a) Belly dancing is believed to be brought into Middle East and Europe more than a thousand years ago by the Gypsies travelling from Indıa through Afghanistan, Persia and Turkey and actually picking up/developingthe dance from the residents of Mesopotamia.

b) Performing in muslim Middle East countries in very revealing and provocative outfits, where women were kept under chadırs and covers from head to toes, for the right price, their services included more than just dancing.

c) Belly dancing - traditionally used in Harems and places alike in the Middle East to get The Sultan (or high ranking men of the court) turned on sexually,

d) Later became a tool for muslim communities' places of entertaintment of mainly men, (where official prostitution was forbidden)

e) In modern times it became a tourist attraction. (to be continued...)

bigOz


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Message Posted:
18/03/2011 11:51

The above adds fuel to the worries of many Western society members, where in recent years there has been unprecedented levels of child abuse - much publicised by the media. That being the case, although a Cypriot by birth and by culture, living in Cyprus, and having also lived a long time in England, the first thing that first thing that came to my mind after reading your post was "hold on! Isn't there a law against this?". That was before I went on to read some objections that followed.

With no disrespect to any modern belly dancer or their art, I believe there is a valid point point to be made. Whilst it is all good for the adults to learn this - and give a private performance to their partners to bring colour to their relationship or be able to do the real thing at a party or a club when out with friends, for me it is a "NO!" for children since it would be in par with displaying them as sex objects. I certainly would not like to see 7-12 year olds doing the Can Can! Would you?

shrimp


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Message Posted:
18/03/2011 12:20

Bigoz, you are braver than I, but now you have said it I have to agree with you, I certainly wouldnt want my little girl doing this. We went to see a wonderful belly dancer last time we were over, the women loved it but the men were winking, nudging each other and the sexual overtones were there for all to see......it would be like little girls over in the UK having pole dancing lessons ....definately not! Keep it for the adults in my opinion

turkan


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Message Posted:
18/03/2011 12:33

Ok enough now please, your taking something very innocent and colourfully fun for the children away for them. I am a mother and my daughter will be there.there is absolutely no sordidness in what im doing.i send out an invitation to all those who disaproove to come and re educate their minds.i have taught at schools in the uk and mothers have been happy with what they have seen.



I conclude those who disaproove dont book your child, please leave this one off project to the mothers who have decided their daughters would love it.

turkan


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Message Posted:
19/03/2011 22:07

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turkan


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20/03/2011 15:09

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turkan


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20/03/2011 15:11

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Snaefell



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Message Posted:
20/03/2011 16:50

If you look at the videos on MTV that children watch - in my opinion belly dancing is very tame! It is a tradition that should be continued and I think turkan is providing a much needed activity that girls will love. Also the glitter, etc makes it like a party event. I cannot see anything sordid in this, they are not going to be watched by men. I would think that the lessons will be attended mothers and children only. Good luck turkan. x

turkan


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Message Posted:
20/03/2011 20:48

Thank you snaefell, yes mothers including mine

turkan


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Message Posted:
21/03/2011 09:37

please can we continue to only use this two way traffic as infirmation, im offering a childrens activity, all I need hear from is those who wish to come, please dont ruin it for the children

turkan


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Message Posted:
21/03/2011 19:24

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turkan


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22/03/2011 18:17

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turkan


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23/03/2011 21:16

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turkan


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Message Posted:
24/03/2011 12:35

This activity will be subject to numbers, please let me know if you are interested

turkan


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Message Posted:
29/03/2011 13:02

again subject to numbers of intertest, my mobile number is 0548 8801952, do not leave an answer machine message, text or call to catch me when you can. thank you

turkan


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Message Posted:
02/04/2011 14:05

due to shortage in numbers of children brought to my attention this may be cancelled, if your child is interested in coming let me know, i would like to give as much notice to those who do want to come.

turkan


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Message Posted:
03/04/2011 14:15

if your child wants to come please email me

turkan


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Message Posted:
03/04/2011 20:54

so far i have 5 children to make this possible i will need 8-10 please keep your interest coming

hollylou


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Message Posted:
03/04/2011 21:18

yes im still interested

numpty


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Message Posted:
04/04/2011 07:33

i am still interested

turkan


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Message Posted:
04/04/2011 09:12

thank you ladies, i am trying my best to make this happen, there being a lot of energy involved i need to have enough numbers, please convince your friends, it would be such a special day for the girls.

ert_in_cyprus


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Message Posted:
04/04/2011 09:19

My 17 year old daughter has been asking about this so this is great. I imagine my wife and maybe my 10 year old daughter will join in as well. I will pass the info on today.

Tenakoutou



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Message Posted:
04/04/2011 17:32

RE.Msg 26: 'Belly Dancing is an art form and part of the culture.....'



Some may consider belly dancing as a 'tart form', rather than an art form - especially where pre-pubescent girls are concerned.



Remember that in UK, one is not even allowed to take a photo of one's own child appearing at the local school play - a PC law introduced to help prevent paedophilia.



I'm no prude, but am I alone in my belief that children should be allowed to have as natural a childhood as possible and not be cajoled into taking part in adult activities depicting overt sensuality - such as belly dancing?

howzat


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Message Posted:
04/04/2011 17:36

Little Girls Belly dancing



google it see what is there not nice

hollylou


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Message Posted:
04/04/2011 17:51

think people with dirty minds comes to mind little girls like to dance and dont feel anything just happiness so why all the big fuss over a bit of belly dancing its hardly making them do pole dancing is it ,,,, that i would object too ,

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
04/04/2011 18:30

Turkan

It appears as though the usual members have decided to try and derail this thread.

Please feel free to start another thread and it will be closely monitored.

This thread is now closed.

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
04/04/2011 18:31

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