Esentepe Construction... but what is it?

Groucho



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Message Posted:
26/09/2008 18:22

Building works have appeared next to the Boray sign on the coast-side of the lower main road just near the Esentepe turning but there is no indication what these works are... anybody know?

rocky


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Message Posted:
26/09/2008 19:26

is it an open prison?

PtePike



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Message Posted:
26/09/2008 20:31

Nah, that's the TRNC itself.

Groucho



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Message Posted:
26/09/2008 20:31

Hardly... it would need to be enormous...

brandy sour


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Message Posted:
26/09/2008 20:32

Yes for C*** builders that we have to put up with.

Notsoboredhw


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Message Posted:
26/09/2008 20:36

Maybe Ikea!!!! LOL!!!

techtrader


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Message Posted:
27/09/2008 01:03

Prefer a prison to Ikea!

Aussie


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Message Posted:
27/09/2008 19:11

My guess is another Villa or group of them.



They have built temporary workers accomdation and done at lot of earthworks below this.



Its disappointing they are still building this close to the water as they have to dig out destroy a lot of local landscape.



Aussie

Skogsy


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Posts: 339

Message Posted:
27/09/2008 19:38

Beauty Salon and Spa bath place. The old Carob warehouse I think is being developed into a leisure type place, if thats where you describe.

Cant wait............

Skogs

Hatty


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Message Posted:
27/09/2008 20:37

Are you sure that it's not Carringtons new restaurant?

Skogsy


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Message Posted:
27/09/2008 21:17

Lets wait and see.

My money is on my bet.



Skogs

Aussie


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Posts: 657

Message Posted:
27/09/2008 21:21

Skogsy



I think the health Spa etc is arround Tatlisu. The Esentepe one is a reasonable distance from the ruined Carob Warehouse there.



Aussie

Groucho



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Message Posted:
27/09/2008 21:22

Could be the petrol station I heard was coming......

eager


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Message Posted:
27/09/2008 22:54

Messages 6 and 7...i think it would be easier to get out of prison than ikea !!!

MUSIN M


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Message Posted:
27/09/2008 23:55

msg 3



mr thomas why is that you have choosen to live in a prison.



as you state the trnc is a prison ,you have served your time now ,you may leave .



musin

long live the kktc

mickey rourke


Joined: 27/08/2008
Posts: 157

Message Posted:
28/09/2008 09:26

Re your reference to Pikey . Inuendo's will not be tolerated , and that is the reason i am deleting your post . Moderator

gillken


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Posts: 521

Message Posted:
28/09/2008 18:06

Its not the "NeW" development by Wellington Estates is it ? Les Hardy told me he had land in that area, don,t know N Cyprus that well but seems about the area. A development of villas apartments and shops I believe..........but don't quote me please.

fairy



Joined: 30/11/2008
Posts: 40

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 17:13

Hi new here and noticed your post. It is a new development of 15-18 beachfront villas, and hopefully we are purchasing one. Has anyone noticed much action in the area ??

Bradus


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Message Posted:
30/11/2008 17:26

Who is the developer?

fairy



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Message Posted:
30/11/2008 18:01

Hi Bradus,they are marketing them under the name Elevation Developements Ltd.

Navek



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Message Posted:
30/11/2008 18:08

Hope they don't let you down

Bradus


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Message Posted:
30/11/2008 18:09

Not heard of this developer. But I'm sure many of the forum members drive past regularly and could post if there is much action in the area. I know that many new buyers find this reassuring.

negativenick


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Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 18:19

mess 18 - buying off plan amid the greatest turndown in living memory...



Ask yourself, as you pay the stagepayments.....



1) What are the chances of the builder completing the project ?

2) What would i do with a part completed property that i had forked out 70-80% of the agrred price on ?

3) How do i know in these very very dificuly times that the builder won't go bust leaving me high and dry ?

4) What are the chances of the builder then paying the taxes and you getting your hands on the Kocan....



Many have said here (and i agree with them) - Do not buy off plan !!



Buy a completed, lived property that has had all the snagging done, gardens finished, pool checked for leaks - will mains electric connected, mains electric collected and Kocan in the hands of the seller....



You stick to this, you won't go far wrong - if not you may need a group hug from the Homebuyers Pressure Group....



I wish someone had given me this advice before i bought !!





Nick

fairy



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Message Posted:
30/11/2008 18:23

So do I after reading everything on here, but we did a lot of searching ect before we went ahead so fingers crossed, because I love the place..!

fairy



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Message Posted:
30/11/2008 18:23

Yes that would be great, although we are making regular trips out, we wont be visiting again until Feb at the moment.

fairy



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Message Posted:
30/11/2008 18:23

Thanks Nick, I have noted your comments and they are very understandable.

Navek



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Message Posted:
30/11/2008 18:38

Hi fairy,

I'll be passing your development tomorrow,

will post info once I'm home.

The last time I passed,

they seemed to be getting on quite fast,

compared to other sites.

Sorry, no camera at the moment, for photo's.

Navek

fairy



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Message Posted:
30/11/2008 18:44

Thanks Navek, that is very good of you.

Groucho



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Message Posted:
30/11/2008 19:38

"It is a new development of 15-18 beachfront villas"



I don't think this is the one I was referring to in post 1 as I've been told it's a lot less villas than that...

fairy



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Posts: 40

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 19:48

Hi Groucho, the site with our interest on has construction workers cabin on right next to the Boray sign. They are only building what is sold at the moment and I think they have lost a couple of plots due to planning regs on plot size and road infrastructure.

Navek



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Message Posted:
30/11/2008 19:50

Groucho,

Maybe they're very small houses :-(

fairy



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Message Posted:
30/11/2008 19:51

Now i am worried..lol.!

Aussie


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Message Posted:
30/11/2008 19:55

Fairy



I walk past this site reasonably often. They have done a lot of earthworks and built large sections of retaining walls in addition to the workers cottage you can see from the road. They have substantially altered the natural slope of the land so it seems like they will have to complete a fair bit of retaining etc before doing much on the actual villas. Will have a closer look next time I go for a walk around there if you like.



Aussie

Hector


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Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 19:56

Fairy

I wish you luck and hope that there are no 'tears before bedtime' as has so often happened to so many who have done as you have ' we did a lot of searching ect before we went ahead so fingers crossed, because I love the place..! '

It may be a sign that I am getting old & cynical but hopefully you wont end up like me being suspicious of anyone posting anything positive re buying property in NC.

Trust you have looked at and taken the advice of the Home Buyers Pressure Group website http://www.hbpg-trnc.net

As a matter of importance has anyone heard the rumour that the HBPG chair Marian Stokes is leaving NC?

Groucho



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Message Posted:
30/11/2008 19:57

I can see foundations of one villa from the road as I come down from Esentepe Village....



I was told that they have permission for 6 villas... but this may be wrong... it was at the Bar in Tumba Restaurant!

Navek



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Message Posted:
30/11/2008 20:05

I think the fact that they have built fairly good accomodation for the workers,

might be a sign that they have good intentions

Good luck Fairy, great location.

We'll keep you posted,

fairy



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Message Posted:
30/11/2008 20:10

Aussie and Navek thanks for your very kind offers, any information will be appreciated.

Groucho I think at the last count 6/7 villas are sold and foundations will be completed by spring 09, they wont start on any more unless the plots sell. The permission is for at least 14 and I know they put planning in for 17.

fairy



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Message Posted:
30/11/2008 20:15

Hector after having bad experiences with spanish property and getting out by the skin of my teeth I have learnt some lessons, but yes you are right there is some risk involved of course, as with any property process.

I think the HBPG are a very usefull and necessary organisation and it is ashame that they are needed.

newlad



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Message Posted:
30/11/2008 21:16

Fairy,

Best of luck with your venture hope it all works out for you,

Paul.

Hector


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Message Posted:
30/11/2008 21:20

Fairy

'Out of the frying pan and into the fire' springs to mind.

Navek



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Message Posted:
01/12/2008 12:40

Hi fairy,

Had a look at your site this morning,

foundations in, plus large retaining wall.

Will get photo's for you towards the end of next week.

Do you know which plot is yours?

stevemac


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Posts: 99

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 13:08

Fairy I second what negative nick said. Do not buy off plan for all the reasons he has stated. Do not buy until the specific performance law is changed because you may be in the same situation of thousands of others here having paid in full with no way of forcing the vendor to give you your title deeds.

fairy



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Posts: 40

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 13:12

Thanks Navek, so good of you, we are plot 5 directly in front of the construction hut in the middle. It was the first plot started so will probably be the furthest in development.

Aussie


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Posts: 657

Message Posted:
07/12/2008 18:07

Fairy



Hi



Walked through the site today and they have definately done further works.



Two villa slabs have been laid plus subfloor work in another and steel reinforcement for the main concrete support pillers has been put up, but the formwork for the concrete pour hasen't been put up yet.



Its also seems more retaining walls have been built and the workers are still living on site.



Aussie

Groucho



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Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
07/12/2008 18:12

There are foundations for 4 houses I think... the foundations look solid enough.



Fairy, one thing... does you contract specify a damp-proof course?



If not get it added pronto... they don't always put one in and it will be essential given the location and surrounding land mass...

fairy



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Message Posted:
07/12/2008 22:50

Thanks Lads, sounds like the info we have received from builder is spot on, I really appreciate your observations and time. This forum can be very positive, thankyou for your good wishes newlad.

Groucho we have included damp course etc but i will check with them to ensure it is carried out, I am very closely monitoring the builders and it will kill me not to get back to TRNC until the new year because obviously I dont want to run into any of the many problems that others have experienced.

newlad



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Message Posted:
07/12/2008 22:53

Fairy,

No problem at all,

Paul.

mickey rourke


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Message Posted:
08/12/2008 07:58

Message 16 has been deleted by a moderator, care to tell us which one you are ??

Here's another one for you to delete Pike is just what I said, a PRAT his continued inuendo and outright bias against all things TRNC is frankly distasteful and disgusting and yet you let him say such things as the TRNC IS A PRISON, with his, " Nah, that's the TRNC itself" remark

Izzet all moderated posts should have the person who moderated it named so that there is a level playing field, then you (and we) will see who are genuine moderators and who are just infiltrating your board for personal gratification.

Groucho



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Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
08/12/2008 08:13

Mike,



Although I sympathise with your frustration, I think you should try to avoid direct name calling as it will not be allowed to stand and the rest of your point is lost... If as he says the TRNC is a prison the joke's on him anyway as he's bought a home here by his own admission.. He just thinks he's bought the prison warder's cottage... what a laugh.



I don't think the south have any intention of honouring a single pre-74 Title deeds.



Pike is very clever at using innuendo of an oblique nature and in a manner to which it is difficult to raise an objection.. He leaves for the reader to make the connection and if you do it's somehow your fault not his... he just says "if the cap fits"



I've said my piece about the unnamed moderators.. so I won't flog a dead horse but this is what I feared would be the likely outcome...