Proposed new hotel i.e. Cleopatra

rocking


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Message Posted:
23/03/2011 16:40

I think that the proposed new hotel to be built in Girne is a monstrosity - all these hotels empty except for gamblers at the weekend and the Mayor of Girne wants to put this thing up it just does not suit the surroundings or the harbour. Would be better if he cleaned up the harbour - I do not think by building this you will attract more tourists. Let us hope this does not get past the planners I see that there is some opposition to it already. When I think of the height and the building of it - no way.

ianwfs


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Message Posted:
23/03/2011 16:49

Think you've miss-read the papers. Although this has been proposed, the mayor categorically DOESN'T want it.

crofter


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Message Posted:
23/03/2011 16:50

Agree 100%............it would be an eyesore and it certainly would not enhance Kyrenia. The Harbour shold be made a priority as this should be the 'Jewel in the crown' of Kyrenia.

rocking


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Message Posted:
23/03/2011 16:56

Mess. 2 Sorry about my mistake, I thought I read something last week it was his proposal, and today, my apologies.

AnthonySmith


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Message Posted:
23/03/2011 17:27

I quite like it. It would certainly stand out

Poodledog


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Message Posted:
23/03/2011 18:07

I think the proposed hotel and the ancillary facilities that are proposed will be brilliant for Girne. Also, if I read the article correctly, as it is some distance from the harbour, it will not impose upon the scenic character of this part of the frontage. Every major tourist city in the world has some sort of iconic building, which helps it to achieve world-wide recognition, and therefore heaps of publicity, so why not us? I agree that the harbour in particular and many other parts of the tourist infrastructure need urgent attention.

I also agree that most of the existing hotels appear to average only a 50% occupancy most of the time and so you might say, why build another one. But I believe the problem lies with (apart from the lack of efficient airlines) an inadequate tourism marketing programme and having spent the last 40 odd years working in tourism marketing I can see many shortfalls which could be overcome without massive expenditure. A new up-to-date strategy is needed!

Tenakoutou



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Message Posted:
24/03/2011 08:14

re. msg 6: ' A new up-to-date strategy is needed!'



Presumably, you mean first dealing with the prevailing 'chuck it out of the car window, or on the beach' mentality and practice?

martinD41


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Message Posted:
24/03/2011 08:34

Where are they going to get the" Know How" to build it? I mean, take a look at the "Cratos" looks more like a "Nick" from the outside.. Bloody awful looking thing..

matula


Joined: 07/07/2008
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Message Posted:
24/03/2011 09:00

My first thought when I saw this proposal on the front page of Cyprus Today was "What has this guy been smoking or drinking?!" Those are still my thoughts--tacky is not the word for it.

wanderer


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Message Posted:
24/03/2011 09:26

The thing looks like one of those trinkets that they try to sell you when you visit the pyramids



Cleopatra VII Philopator (in Greek, Κλεοπάτρα Φιλοπάτωρ; (Late 69 BC[1] – August 12, 30 BC) was the last pharaoh of Ancient Egypt.

She was a member of the Ptolemaic dynasty, a family of Greek[2][3][4][5][6][7] origin which ruled Egypt after Alexander the Great's death during the Hellenistic period. The Ptolemies, throughout their dynasty, spoke Greek[8] and refused to speak Egyptian, which is the reason that Greek as well as Egyptian languages were used on official court documents like the Rosetta Stone.[9] By contrast, Cleopatra did learn to speak Egyptian and represented herself as the reincarnation of an Egyptian goddess, Isis.

swyflot


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Message Posted:
24/03/2011 09:28

In my humble opinion, I think Girne needs a Cleopatra themed hotel like a fish needs a bicycle

Handan


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Message Posted:
24/03/2011 10:22

poodle dog i think your right with so many industrys reliant here on tourism you would think they would get their heads together and tackle it.. i mean just imagaine if they combined their marketing budgets together the impact they could have if they just Workd together. It would benefit the island in so so many ways effect so many industries here , not to mention improve the housing market prices etc the list is endless. May be your the man for the job?

Poodledog


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Message Posted:
24/03/2011 22:41

Handan - thanks for the confidence, but 'been there, done that' and now probably a little too old to take on such a mamoth job. However, I could bring a lot of experience to the table, but the question is, "Would anyone listen" - I think not. However a properly formed consortium of interested parties - proper busiessmen and politicians who can and are prepared to take responsibility; leading people from all tourism sectors - not just their union representatives and maybe something positive could be achieved to the benefit of all.

Matula - beauty is in the eye of the beholder! Tacky or not, Blackpool Tower, The Eifle Tower, The London Eye, The Space Needle (Seattle), The Burj Al Arab Hotel, (Dubai), etc etc - all major tourist attractions and money generating icons for the whole tourism sector!

Tenakoutou - yes, you're absolutly right but even the "don't drop it - pick it up" philosopy has to be "marketed" - take the "clunk-click, every trip" campaign for seatbelts. It worked!

efendioliver



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Message Posted:
24/03/2011 22:56

the worst design for a hotel i have ever seen should not be allowed it is horrendous

what an earth were they thinking .....

CJtill


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Message Posted:
25/03/2011 08:42

I agree that it is the tackiest looking hotel I have seen. Although it is further down the high street at 30 storeys high it will tower over everything. All the buildings in Kyrenia should be in keeping with each other to enhance the area. How can a Turkish developer just be allowed to build an eyesore like this? The planning laws need to be changed.

Corinne

matula


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Message Posted:
25/03/2011 09:59

The Savoy was a much more pleasing to the eye hotel. How long did it last?

Tango1


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Message Posted:
25/03/2011 11:10

What has happened to The Savoy, has that closed then? I must have missed that in the twice weekly D & G paper.



Tango1

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
25/03/2011 11:50

Kyrenia and Nicosia have a very tired 3rd world look to them and, in terms of modern architecture, compare poorly to the Greek Side. I'm not sure the Cleopatra design is one I'd choose but a tall landmark building would look much better than the existing acres of 3-storie, look-alike, "blocks" of flats.

swyflot


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Message Posted:
25/03/2011 13:57

Poodledog



Most cities have an iconic building



Girne is essentially a town,if it goes ahead with this project it will have a moronic building

mamachina


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Message Posted:
25/03/2011 14:15

Looking at the picture (yes, i know its only an artists impression) but the impression I got was that its gardens/other structures did go down to the sea! So basically "it" will be taking up sea frontage somewhere! And I agree, a monstrosity in the making - make a good Lighthouse to warn everyone to keep away!

rocking


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Message Posted:
25/03/2011 17:16

Rauf Denktas has said he finds it awful in todays Kibris - hopes it will not happen.

greylag


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Message Posted:
25/03/2011 18:20

http://www.carringtoncyprus.com/latest-news/item/108-kyrenia-will-probably-get-a-new-peek-look



There she is,



Grey.

Snaefell



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Message Posted:
25/03/2011 18:34

That is horrible. Hope is doesn't get built.

metin


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Message Posted:
25/03/2011 18:51

OMG !!!



Think they are trying to make themselves into a little Las Vegas !!!! If that gets built I'm sure more will follow.

Jeannie


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Message Posted:
25/03/2011 22:42

Horrible, truly horrible.



God only knows what they were thinking.

Poodledog


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Message Posted:
25/03/2011 22:43

As usual, most people seem to be missing the point! What the TRNC and that includes Girne, needs is investment - investment that encourages more tourism, creates more jobs and puts more money into local government coffers which will enable them to do many of the other necessary jobs, i.e. repair roads, cleanup rubbish, improve existing facilities, including the harbour. As our country (North Cyprus) does not exist in many peoples minds and is unrecognised in many others - we need something startling (iconic was the word I previously used) to create media attention and thereby stimulate worldwide public awareness of the far reaching benefits North Cyprus offers as an overall HOLIDAY destination.

An invester needs a return, otherwise why invest? Something new and different (and remember this was only "an artist's impression") and maybe slightly controversial, would help to achieve both of the above. And, above all, give money spending tourists another reason to visit!

rowlo



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Message Posted:
25/03/2011 23:23

and you will be able to sell that noose around your neck , rather than swing on it ?

Woodspeckie


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Message Posted:
25/03/2011 23:31

That would put me off a holiday there.

metin


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Message Posted:
26/03/2011 12:09

We have beautiful historical sites (some could do with a bit of investment), but they are enough to pull the tourists in.



We don't need that,........will probably be the gamblers staying there anyway, I guess it will be too expensive for a family holiday.

So I don't see the point.

hattikins


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Message Posted:
26/03/2011 12:42

We do not need this monstrosity here, it is absolutely horrible and would not bring anything to the area.

gusanova


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Message Posted:
26/03/2011 13:06

I cannot see anything wrong with this project- all those who say it will be an eyesore etc , just ask whose money is paying for it and yes will bring jobs into Girne and I beleive will start updating the area.



I also ask why has there been a complete change of heart from the TRNC Officials as I seem to remember a few years ago Mr Abrovich was intending to build a 23 storey Hotel here and was turned down as was deemed to be too high!!

I wonder if he is behind this edifice!