I find this sort of thing very sad

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 10:31

I went to my local supermarket today and before I went in I had a look at the notices posted on the window. I found what was a copy of two postings from Cyprus44 that were posted on the 17th and 23rd of this month and was from one member having a go at another member and also mentioning another couples names. Quite what the point is in doing this sort of thing is beyond me. The member concerned (If that was who posted this notice on the window) should be ashamed of themselves.

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 10:37

AJ



More to the point they should be banned !!

hollylou


Joined: 05/01/2011
Posts: 163

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 10:41

named and shamed ,they didnt feel anything for putting in shop window so you shouldnt feel any thing naming and shaming then banning them ,,dispicable ,,

billybob


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 576

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 10:42

Couldnt agree more some should have been banned years ago lol he he

hollylou


Joined: 05/01/2011
Posts: 163

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 10:46

people like this really make me sick they havent the b...s to go to face only cowards way if your reading this find your b...s and go see people you have a problem with for what ever reason and face them you are no more than sad cowards

cypgab


Joined: 09/01/2010
Posts: 338

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 10:52

How is that different from people on this board anonymously posting criticisms of others on the board?

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 10:56

AJ I do hope you took them down..Whatever was their need to do such a thing. If you have not maybe you could go back to the store. No need for this very sick, could you at least say a little of what it was to do with, like give us a little hint ! My guess their were a lot of postings on the thread and you have no idea what poster put it their..Opps you said two postings, sorry..I guess you cant ban the posters it might not have been them !



What a carry on...Things like this make me at least one member who sometimes would rather not post at all or even log in.



Spider,X

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 10:57

cypgab

What is posted on this board can also be discussed on this board. A malicious posting on a shop window can been seen by everyone but is not open to discussion.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 11:01

Spider

I will not go into anymore detail but yes I did remove the notice.

Whether they have posted on any other supermarket windows I do not know.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 11:02

AJ, if you can find out who theses people are they really should be banned for life. This forum can be very useful, often funny, sometimes controversial, but this is lower than low and those involved should be ashamed.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 11:27

AJ



What right did you have to remove the notices from the window?...



Even if it was utter nonsense... it wasn't for YOU to do that...

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 11:32

mmmmmm

Because I know what the situation is all about.

Do you want me to go back and put it on the window again?

I tell you what Mark you come out here (if you can get into the TRNC that is) and I will give you the notice so you can put it back.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 11:38

AJ,



Since when did you acquire such 'rights' ? The supermarket isn't your domain - it is down to the management of the Supermarket to remove the offending notices.. You should have contacted them and / or the parties effected with your concerns.



You're the guy who asks members to email off board re 'disputes' - yet you choose to take matters into your own hands..



Why on earth would you think I can't go to any part of Cyprus that I please ... ?

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 11:40

Who knows mmmmmm, it could even have been about you ! What would leaving it in the window do only make an unpleasant situation worse.

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 11:41

m6, perhaps AJ was entitled to remove the notice because, as stated below, "all text is copyrighted by Cyprus44"? Probably because of a Cypriot law similar to the one that stops you photographing certain people but allows them to photograph you? Damn, I can't post my comments on NCFP now because it is copyright!

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 11:45

Mark

The notice was in the public domain i.e. outside of the supermarket. I know the family that run the supermarket and they have no control over who post's on their windows (exterior). The subject matter was copied from Cyprus44 and included the board names of two members and the names of two others. I am sure most if not all board members would welcome the removal of said material.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 11:50

Hi Hattinkins, re msg 14



>>it could even have been about you !<<



I rather doubt it - let's just say when someone is saying something 'bad' about someone else.. AJ is somewhat guilty of selective intervention ..



EVEN if it had been about me - it isn't for AJ to remove the offending notices... he asks for procedures to be followed on here...



re msg 15

malsancak



'Copyright' protection hasn't been a big issue before... !

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 11:52

Dave,



you know very well the point I'm making.. now why would you suggest I could have a problem visiting 'TRNC' ?!

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 11:55

It wasn't about a member wearing a striped tee shirt ,holding a glass of beer was it...

dearie


Joined: 08/03/2011
Posts: 142

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 12:15

message 6 İ agree- far TOO MUCH bickering going on here

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 12:23

Martin

No not a mention of me which I find disappointing.

The whole purpose of this thread was to state my feelings about this particular situation. I am not on a 'witch hunt' and if I wanted I could get access to the Supermarkets security camera recordings but that would not prove anything because I would probably not recognize the person concerned.

Anyway thanks to those that have e-mailed me so far.

Lets keep this on topic.

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 12:43

AJ.



This poster should be E-mailed by you to ask the question direct, if they admit posting it then they should have a ban for life.



All posters need to be reminded what this board was originally intended to do.An information board if my memory serves me right .



To many posts are sadly going away from that and this last example is taken it to the limits.



If these sort of posters are not taken to task and an example is not set by banning this sort of dispicable behaviour then in my opinion just accepting it will be letting the floodgates open for these sort of posters to ruin the name of Cyprus 44 once and for all !!

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 12:44

Yes, joking aside AJ, it's a distasteful act and the people concerned are,as you say, rather "Sad"

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 13:09

This type of act is dispicable. Not only does it show the posters who were having a go at each other on a public forum in bad light but is also adverse publicity for the forum. There is no need for it on here or anywhere else in the public domain.

Meerkat


Joined: 21/01/2011
Posts: 368

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 13:48

I think AJ had every right to do that as he does have a responsibility to Cyprus 44 & his staff & members. It just shows you what sad boring lives some people have. Have they got nothing better to do with there time there. Shame on them!!

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 14:58

I'm not there, but don't understand if someone owns a supermarket why they don't have control over what is stuck on their windows? I have to say, some of the puerile polemics that occasionally are posted on this board do beggar belief, from people who are adults

magicart


Joined: 05/10/2008
Posts: 985

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 15:31

Well done AJ-It was the correct thing to do.



Not surprised 6ms has kicked off-he's a big supporter of damaging peoples reputation while living in a different country.



Perhaps someone should drop a poster about him in his local shop in the UK.



He might have a different view then.



Art

cypgab


Joined: 09/01/2010
Posts: 338

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 17:04

You'll hate this Mark, but I'm on your side. How so many people can kick up a fuss about nothing is beyond belief.

gooligan


Joined: 30/01/2007
Posts: 1591

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 17:12

funny,MM's reply to Art has dissapeared, ...................oh hang on a minute AJ is online,mystery solved.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 18:41

cybgab

You asked me a question earlier in this thread and I replied. No answer?

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 18:44

Why If a moderator wants an answer is this open

any other thread by now would be closed

and not carefully edited

daisy dukes


Joined: 06/09/2008
Posts: 3815

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 19:47

Isn't anybody else actually interested in what the letter said, and who was bickering about who...i know i am...but then, i'm quite the nosey so and so...unless it was involving me of course



DD

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 20:04

I would have done exactly what Dave done as well.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 20:06

philbailey

Not quite sure what you are alluding to with your posting.

A posting was deleted because some one decided to introduce the pros and cons of satellite TV.

The reason why I posted this thread was to find out what others thought of this act. As I have mentioned previously I am not on a 'witch hunt' and I guess more than anything else I wanted to know whether the majority was with me or against me. This has nothing to do with anything else. This has to do with the rights or wrongs about an action that was carried out possibly by a member of this forum and an action that was carried out outside of this forum but has implications for certain members of this forum.

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 20:06

msg32..DD. Paranoia perhaps

hooter


Joined: 21/03/2011
Posts: 20

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 20:07

aj and hypocrisy hand in hand again...

daisy dukes


Joined: 06/09/2008
Posts: 3815

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 20:09

msg 35....perhaps.....





DD

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 20:11

If you have an issue with anyone, you should confront them, posting it in a supermarket is cowardly vindictive and spiteful. Yes as moderator, if Alsancackjack recognised it from this forum then he had every right and indeed duty to remove it. Do the rules allow you copy it, is it violating copyright and privacy policy , looks as if by reading what is at the foot of this page, I have the answer.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 20:11

Ms 37 I thought you cleared weeds

not smoked them?

daisy dukes


Joined: 06/09/2008
Posts: 3815

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 20:20

msg 39...chance would be a fine thing!!



But honestly...really...doesn't ANYONE want to know what this is all about...?





DD

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 20:20

Nige

Ref message 36

Is that all you have to offer on this thread?

I am inviting comments about the situation that is described in my first posting and not about what you think about me personally.

At least provide some intelligent input into this thread or are you not capable?

Anyway lets keep this thread on topic.

Am I right in doing what I did or should I have left this post on the window for all to see?

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 20:22

Dave - For what it's worth, I think you were absolutely right in removing the post from the window. I would have done the same.



J

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 20:36

Yes , i think you were right to remove it too .

Pat

vonny


Joined: 25/06/2009
Posts: 476

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 20:36

I think aj was right,if he were a teacher and one of his pupils did that(its an example cos it was quite a childish thing to do )would you not expect him to remove it.I think as a mod he was doing what was expected of him.

Tootie


Joined: 28/08/2008
Posts: 2037

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 20:37

Dave, Ref msg 41

hooters name is dan not Nige...



Ps, Ive emailed Izzet to confirm/validate my email address. Ok?



tootie/phil

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 20:39

RE msg 41, AJ: (...) Am I right in doing what I did or should I have left this post on the window for all to see? (...)

▶ Dave, if you for any reason (the validity of which I don't question) had a wish to have this notice removed you should have asked the shop's manager to remove it from HIS/HER outside window. I very much doubt if an outside window is public domain. If for any reason one shouldn't like barbers would one have the right to remove the word barber from the barber's outside window?

daisy dukes


Joined: 06/09/2008
Posts: 3815

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 20:44

i give up....

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 20:54

Hans let me explain again.

I know the family and they are aware of the situation and they did not understand what the posting was about and they told me that people post on their window without their knowledge but unless anyone complains then they have no problem with the situation. And as said earlier they were quite willing for me to review the security camera tapes. They do not want what has been accepted by them as a community facility to be compromised by a posting that they do not understand and more to the point upset their expat customers.

So should I put it back on the window?

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 20:58

Should you or not is a judgement call

Am I surpised you removed it NO

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 21:04

I have to agree with DG, behaviour beyond the realms of reason or rationale.



Richard

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 21:18

RE msg 48, AJ: If you now suggest (allow me this: a bit late after your first post imo) that you discussed the matter with the owner/shopkeeper and THEN removed the notice with his/her consent - then there is no problem at all. And knowing all the facts maybe some replies in this thread wouldn't have been written. Certainly not mine.

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 21:21

msg 46..I think Hans has been at the "Laughing Gear" AJ did't remove Super from the Supermarket window did he

gooligan


Joined: 30/01/2007
Posts: 1591

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 21:40

AJ = double standards.Why dont you other moderators rein him in?

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 21:40

Check out the CCTV, I say.

The viewings this thread has attracted makes it more of a cliffhanger than "who killed JR?" In TRNC terms it's far bigger.

Blackbird



Joined: 11/08/2009
Posts: 1432

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 21:44

AlsancakJack, of course you did the right thing be removing the offending poster. But you should have kept quiet about it.

Posting it on here was your mistake!

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 21:47

Aj.



Yes you were correct on removing post out of the window.

Now ban the offender !!

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 21:49

leave AJ alone at least he knows a good guitar from a bad one ,unlike Hans

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 21:50

Now then, we can't have any kangaroo courts here (he said, stifling a schoolgirl giggle).

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 21:52

Zoots very true maybe they are all thinking that the old or new thread that was posted here at one time may well get reposted...interesting !

I for one think it was a disgusting thing to do..whatever the thread was about ? Talk about bad gossip whoever did this act has a very destructive personality indeed....has a chip and grudge to bare not a very happy person either. In my professional view and I am sure most people if they were to think about it would agree.





Spider,X

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 22:09

This is beginning to sound more like a witch hunt which was as stated by AJ not his intention. Those that did this are disgusting individuals and exhibit all the hallmarks of a coward. If you have a problem with a person then deal with it person-to-person not on a forum or via a shop window for goodness sake.

lovingcyprus


Joined: 02/03/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 22:13

I think this thread should now be closed for the following reason: Thread was addressed and no need for further posts.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 22:38

There is still something bugging me about this. I have the posting in front of me now and looking at it, it seems as though the person that copied it from this board was not logged on at the time and managed to copy two separate post's into one. The original poster is shown at the top of the posting so I would discount him/her unless they did not realize what they were doing. And the (I think) intended target is also mentioned so I would discount both of those. the only other ID's are a couple of people that I have no idea as to whether they are members of 44 or not.

Where is Miss Marples when you need her?

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 22:51

well its easy , do they have valid email address , or has one man done what greece failed to do , took over northern cyprus ?

happyhere


Joined: 11/05/2009
Posts: 75

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 22:52

Sorry AJ, if you are not a member, you can't post !!!! Or is it differen?

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 23:02

AJ (mess 62)



Perhaps she's in the same place as Morse!

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
25/03/2011 23:31

I think you were right, and as I guess its Illeli they would not want to harm anybody. Saying that however it is such be ashamed to put them in the frame

suzyr


Joined: 23/03/2011
Posts: 20

Message Posted:
26/03/2011 00:25

mods are gods

suzyr


Joined: 23/03/2011
Posts: 20

Message Posted:
26/03/2011 00:26

mmmmmmmm

you are quite right morally and leagaly

suzyr


Joined: 23/03/2011
Posts: 20

Message Posted:
26/03/2011 00:31

in removing it you stole



and it seams all mods are the same what a crock of brown stuff this forum can be

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
26/03/2011 00:38

suzyr for goodness sake someone has posted something to cause others problems and you think its alright....Lets hope this thread keeps going and the person who had done this dirty deed will I am sure slip up and let things slip in their posting on here that maybe will make some sense to the mods I do hope so..It is quit obvious that they have a number of Ids and email addresses as thats how they play on here...DIRTY !



Keep working on it mods



Spider,X

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
26/03/2011 02:34

This is an open forum

if you google a topic it will show from this forum

fact

a poxy piece of paper in a backwater supermarket is small change

I will take a wild guess and say google has more readers than a supermarket with 100? customers a week/day?

if you do not want your views seen

do NOT post on an open forum

FACT

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
26/03/2011 02:52

A prime example

google bbc-religion, you will get on page 3 cyprus44

ok it was closed again, but it is there



http://www.google.com/search?q=bbc+religion&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=vsx&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=s&prmd=ivns&ei=GDiNTbmlB4uChQed7-W7Dg&start=20&sa=N

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
26/03/2011 08:31

If I am an average customer at any supermarket, I never even notice what is posted on the window.

If anyone did notice besides AJ then I think, like me they would think' what sad sick bas**** would d a thing

like that?'



Personally, I am not interested in what it said.

cypgab


Joined: 09/01/2010
Posts: 338

Message Posted:
26/03/2011 10:01

... and why not just remove it as was done with the permission of the shop owner (we found out later), and then keep quiet.



Why all this publicity AJ?

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
26/03/2011 10:18

"Why all this publicity AJ?"



Perhaps the publicity will deter the malicious lowlifes from doing it again to another person, personally I think they should have been named and shamed.

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
26/03/2011 11:06

suzyr.msg 69. If you don't like the forum and don't like the mods why do you bother posting?

Rosie64


Joined: 13/11/2010
Posts: 72

Message Posted:
26/03/2011 11:49

Why post it in the first place if you can't accept the criticism or other peoples point of view.



" I know the family and the situation"

Why not let them deal with it themselves if it is that serious, which i doubt.



Is this not how "nosey neighbours" and "we know better ex-pats get bad names ?



Extending forum admin duties to supermarket windows, is that not taking it a bit too far ?

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
26/03/2011 16:23

Just leave karma to sort it all out, it will you know.

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
26/03/2011 18:29

Msg 75: "...personally I think they should have been named and shamed."

You mean by naming a few innocent suspects? The culprit is UNKNOWN. But why let that get in the way?

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
26/03/2011 20:36

Does anyone involved in the post care to comment?

eyebob


Joined: 22/06/2010
Posts: 143

Message Posted:
26/03/2011 20:41

Whoa!!!This is a MEDIATOR/ARBITRATOR you are criticising,be careful of this man.He can have you thrown off this site,never to darken its doors again! I can`t believe that an open forum(?) is controlled in such a way, that if ones views are contrary to the opinions,views and beliefs of the people who control it,then one will be castigated and forever banished from its HOLY temple.Never mind,there`s always FACEBOOKI!!!!

pollymarples


Joined: 08/08/2010
Posts: 1778

Message Posted:
26/03/2011 20:42

Don't you think whoever this was has enough problems, that discussing it too much might just push them over the edge. Best to let go now, course that is only my opinion.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
26/03/2011 20:46

OK I think this thread has now run its course. And those that take great delight in having a go at me please continue but do it by e-mail not on the board.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
26/03/2011 20:47

This thread is now closed. Reason: Thread was addressed and no need for further posts.