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delboy
Joined: 10/09/2007 Posts: 37
Message Posted: 10/09/2007 21:52 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 127 in Discussion |
| Hi spud one, please note it is not Esenteppe golf course, but more importantly your statement that there are holes where one cannot see the result off their drive is incorrect, this only exists if you do not make the faiway, or have a real wayward shot. I am a member playing off a h/cap 14, I have now played more than 80 rounds and can assure you there is not a hole on the course that denies visual contact with an even half decent drive. No one can deny it is an extremely difficult course and many a keen and able golfer has had to admit defeat , submit lots of cards and hope the h/cap committee are lenient, perhaps that is what you need to do!!. No insult intended, I felt the need to defend my course amidst lots of negative and ill informed comments on the forum. On the money front playing with a member and including a buggie at present coste approx 75 ytl, I make that about £28, this is considerably less than all the knockers make it. |
delboy
Joined: 10/09/2007 Posts: 37
Message Posted: 10/09/2007 21:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 127 in Discussion |
| Srry forgot to mention what is " holiday Golf ", isn't that crazy golf at Blackpool!! |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 14/09/2007 19:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi delboy your comments are very interesting i agree the course is very good but i dont know where you get your prices from how many members will play with a stranger. when i was there in early july the price then with a buggy was £45 each the manager of the course has since sent me an email to inform me there will be an increase from the 1st oct to approx £60 with a buggy. you must think i am a donkey regards to crazy golf at blackpool you would possibly be off + 6 on a normal course if you can play to 14 around there. i played off the yellow tees in july you cant tell me there are no blind holes with the length of the tees and the steep drops to the fairways its inpossible to see your ball perhaps you play from the red tees!!!!!!!!! |
molly1
Joined: 25/08/2007 Posts: 14
Message Posted: 15/09/2007 14:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 127 in Discussion |
| What does a donkey in blackpool get for lunch?? Half and hour. You have to admit that the course for a new course is expensive but golfers being what they are will always pay - they are addicts. It is beautiful. I do wish however that they would let children in. My daughter is 12 and plays off 15 Why don't you 2 arrange a math and have a beer after and enjoy. I am sure Spud that Delboy will get you a good rate! |
molly1
Joined: 25/08/2007 Posts: 14
Message Posted: 15/09/2007 14:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 127 in Discussion |
| match not math sorry!! |
IsOglu
Joined: 31/07/2007 Posts: 12
Message Posted: 16/09/2007 02:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 127 in Discussion |
| £60 for a round of golf, you're having a laugh |
delboy
Joined: 10/09/2007 Posts: 37
Message Posted: 16/09/2007 16:15 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 127 in Discussion |
| Couple of things, firstly IsOglu, £60 for a round of golf on a course off that standard is not unusual, I can only assume you know very little about golf, secondly for Spud1, I stand by what I said, my words are factual not heresay, every hole played from the yellow tees not the red ladies as you suggested, allows the golfer to see the flight and landing off the ball providing it is not a wayward shot. I also stand by what I said in relation to the cost of someone playing with a member sharing the cost of a buggie at this moment in time will cost approximately 78 ytl. Molly 1 has hit the nail on the head, I as a member will gladly invite and sign you in for a game, I look forward to playing a round with someone on a h/cap of 10. This is not intended as a challenge more to prove a point that members will help were possible and sign guests in to promote our beautiful course, you can then see for yourself that half decent balls struck from the yellow tees are visual right through to landing. Perhaps you were blinded by the beauty off the mountain and sea views. |
normando
Joined: 09/01/2007 Posts: 6
Message Posted: 17/09/2007 13:29 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 127 in Discussion |
| hello delboy..i have read with interest your comments regarding the new course..i will be in kryenia for one week from 25th sept, and looking forward to playing the course..i am a 10 handicap and would be obliged if you or any other member would be able to partner me. thanks.. |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 17/09/2007 16:30 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi delboy thanks for your invitation i hope to be over in oct and perhaps we can meet up for a beer i have an apartment on crystall bay part of hampshire develepments i will let you know when i am there. you are correct when you say the course is very good i still maintain it as blind holes perhaps the yellow tees were right back when i played it but you as a member playing the course regular would know were the trouble is. perhaps my golf is on the way down because my club have just given me 1 shot back my handicap now is 11.5 best regards spud1 |
delboy
Joined: 10/09/2007 Posts: 37
Message Posted: 17/09/2007 21:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 127 in Discussion |
| normando and spud1, I am more than happy to invite you and have a round at the Korineum. normando, wed 26th Sep 0715hrs meet for a 0730hrs tee time, if that is a bit sudden let me know, spud1 looking forward already to that beer perhaps though we should leave it til after the game, let me know nearer the time and we can arrange a tee time. I hope I havn't opened the flood gates to all you tourists seeking a cheap round of golf !!. |
normando
Joined: 09/01/2007 Posts: 6
Message Posted: 18/09/2007 10:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 127 in Discussion |
| delboy thanks for the invite..i have never been to course before,so is there a specific place we can meet..ie pro shop etc..see you at 07.15 on 26th. .! |
delboy
Joined: 10/09/2007 Posts: 37
Message Posted: 18/09/2007 14:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 127 in Discussion |
| normando can you let me know your name please, a guess would be Norman but I was always taught never presume, you might have guessed I'm Derek, meet at the pro shop in the main club house, not the acedemy, will you have your own clubs ? if not there is eqpt for hire it is new but not top quality. See you 0715 hrs 26th Sep. |
normando
Joined: 09/01/2007 Posts: 6
Message Posted: 19/09/2007 11:32 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi derek..you presumed correct..it is norman. i was planning on bringing my own clubs. however can you tell me the price of hiring a set..as i would hate mine to be lost in transit. . look forward to meeting you. |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 19/09/2007 12:24 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi delboy still cannot get any reply from vacide goren regards to winter fees i have emailed him 4 times |
delboy
Joined: 10/09/2007 Posts: 37
Message Posted: 19/09/2007 14:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 127 in Discussion |
| Hi Norman..looking forward to the game, prices at this moment in time are as follows..Greenfee £24, Clubs £15, Shoes if required £5, buggy shared £5. See you next wed I suggest you arr at 7am that will give you time to boot up hire and familarise yourself with score card etc, do not purchase any balls as I have a shed load, some are probably spud1's from his last outing. Several off my friends will be there so be prepared for some friendly banter. |
delboy
Joined: 10/09/2007 Posts: 37
Message Posted: 19/09/2007 14:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 127 in Discussion |
| Hi spud1, Vacide is in fact a very attractive young lady, she is the manager for sales, try Esra another attractive young lady, she is the pr manager, if that fails I will try and get the info to you. |
normando
Joined: 09/01/2007 Posts: 6
Message Posted: 19/09/2007 19:28 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi derek..thanks for info..i will probably bring my own clubs..do they accept sterling at golf club or turkish lira..? looking forward to meeting you and your friends.. |
dodger
Joined: 29/07/2007 Posts: 1895
Message Posted: 19/09/2007 19:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 127 in Discussion |
| is this the new course in esentepe. |
delboy
Joined: 10/09/2007 Posts: 37
Message Posted: 20/09/2007 22:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 127 in Discussion |
| Hi Norman, Stirling or ytl, dont forget to keep some spare dosh for a little wag.. Hi dodger that is correct |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 23/09/2007 20:27 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi delboy have just received email from golf club regards to green fees £54 weekdays £62 weekends with a couple of drinks + a buggy you are looking at £150 approx |
delboy
Joined: 10/09/2007 Posts: 37
Message Posted: 24/09/2007 20:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 127 in Discussion |
| Hi spud1, just played with a guest on Sat it cost him £24 green fees, £5 half share for buggy. Prices will change on 1st Oct, will keep you posted on prices when signed in by member. By the way the course still hasn't changed, drove the ball well, spotted all flight and ball landing bar one!!. hole 4 up the hill wide fairway flat landing area no problem. Playing with normando on Wed I bet you cannot wait for his report I know I'm looking forward to it, and the game as well. |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 24/09/2007 22:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi delboy green fees change on the 15th oct have a good game on wednesday i am going to have an eye test on wed???? to see if i need glasses to follow the ball + i would not be able to open my eyes at 7-15 am i have a problem at 7-15 pm regards spud1 |
Hippo
Joined: 02/02/2007 Posts: 2070
Message Posted: 26/09/2007 18:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 127 in Discussion |
| Norman I hope those bandits at Korinium didnt take all your money keep some for Sunday!! |
normando
Joined: 09/01/2007 Posts: 6
Message Posted: 04/10/2007 21:45 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi spud1...well i played 2 rounds of golf with delboy and from a nuetral standpoint i must say he was spot on..if you hit a decent drive you will see the flight and landing on almost all holes.. i have played many courses in africa spain middle east and uk, and it was one of the most picturesque i have played on..for a new course it is in great nick..however no matter what, you will enjoy the company of delboy and his mates,as i did...!! |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 05/10/2007 16:15 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi normando the course was in good nick when i played it but if the tees are right back on some holes you cannot see where your ball has gone also i have had the fees from them its between £ 52 & £64 a round without a member + £20 for a buggy. unfortunately delboy plays to early for us so i will give them a miss this time i am over there on the 8th oct for 2 weeks to play on there 4 times would cost aprox £560 for the pair of us a lot of dosh |
Champagne
Joined: 03/10/2007 Posts: 8
Message Posted: 05/10/2007 17:48 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 26 of 127 in Discussion |
| £60 for a round of golf, which is about right for a course of this standard! Banana Republic, Banana Golf Course, Yeah I would really pay £60 to go 18 holes on a course that 99% of the world population has never heard of or will never play on! the mentality is so,so,so crazy golf. Cheaper if you play with a member of which 75% are social members and have never hit a ball in their lives. It's like a bar in Alsancak that upset its customers who all left, to encourage them back and build his trade again he made the beer 4YTL the average was 2.5YTL at the time! The Esentepe has quality but lacks quantity and this can only be reflected in the high green fees, if you want more of your locals (all season bread and butter) to use your fantastic facilities then make it more accessable for our wallets. Exclusive in Cyprus ain't gonna work, not enough bums on seats my friend. |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 05/10/2007 18:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 27 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi champagne i agree with you they need to look after the locals + they need to reduce green fees a little to encourage property owners to play more |
delboy
Joined: 10/09/2007 Posts: 37
Message Posted: 05/10/2007 23:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 28 of 127 in Discussion |
| Normando, thank you for those kind words i shall pass them on to my mates. Spud1, I get the impression you like the last word and you can never be wrong , well in this case you are wrong, forget about the tee beds you played off I have explained the FACTS several times , Normando has confirmed these and now you decline to play with me, I am beginning to doubt you are a golfer never mind a 10 h/cap. Tee times are not an issue I would gladly change that to accomodate guests, the reason for early starts Summer temp's. As for prices I will not argue, wouldn't we all like to play cheap golf but get real, Top Course Top dollar. To all on the forum, on any subject, facts are a little boring, rumours hearsay, and second hand tittle tattle more exciting but none the less fictional. |
delboy
Joined: 10/09/2007 Posts: 37
Message Posted: 06/10/2007 00:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 29 of 127 in Discussion |
| Champagne, I believe that is a very exclusive and sophiscated drink, reading between the lines you are in my opinion misnamed, perhaps you should be called, :Mild or Bitter:, my preference would be bitter. Oh before you say it, I love bitter and have enjoyed many a pint off mild. 75% social members !! where do you get your facts from ?. Are you sure it wasn't !A! particular customer in Alsancak that upset the landlord for s... stirring, that sounds about right. If you cannot afford a Rolls Royce then buy a mini, no offence to Mini's . Had one then made the step upwards. |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 06/10/2007 17:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 30 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi delboy i did say the course was good but for you to say its top dollar is a bit over the top i will post my handicap certificate on the web i have played golf all round the world on some great courses as i said yours is good in years to come it will be a great course but not quite yet happy golfing i am there monday for 2 weeks i will be calling in for a few drinks i am on hampshire develepments site 10mins from golf course if your around pop in for a drink number 16 |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 06/10/2007 21:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 31 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi delboy forgot to say its cyrstall bay |
Harvey
Joined: 01/10/2007 Posts: 40
Message Posted: 07/10/2007 21:27 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 32 of 127 in Discussion |
| I thought you golfers might find this of interest. http:www.korineumgolf.com/membership.asp Should give you membership cost and green fees. |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 22/10/2007 17:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 33 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi delboy really nice to meet up with you and your mates as you now know i was winding you up the course is first class i hope the next time i am over we can have a game and a few beers or in your case a few bottles of wine only joking best regards spud 1 |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 27/11/2007 17:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 34 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi delboy how are we fixed for the golf next week spud1 |
delboy
Joined: 10/09/2007 Posts: 37
Message Posted: 27/11/2007 19:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 35 of 127 in Discussion |
| Hi spud1 Wed 0800hrs, Sat 0800hrs, either or both, see you at the pro shop 0745hrs. You can just join the gang and our mini comp, the most you can lose is 8 ytl, the most you can win is 8ytl x number of players. Looking forward to the game and the banter. Derek. |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 27/11/2007 19:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 36 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi delboy thats fine thanks look forward to the banter ect i will will have to go to the bank for the cash on tuesday regards roy |
delboy
Joined: 10/09/2007 Posts: 37
Message Posted: 06/12/2007 22:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 37 of 127 in Discussion |
| To Spud1 Alias Dick Turpin, congratulations on your robbery !! OOps I mean win, my friends and I are all smarting but are looking forward to recovering their losses on Sat. Can you take this opportunity to inform all on the forum the course is fair and tough and that all bar one tee shot is visible through to landing, in other words eat them!!. See you Sat. |
scoop2
Joined: 07/12/2007 Posts: 1
Message Posted: 07/12/2007 22:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 38 of 127 in Discussion |
| Good on yer Delboy, stick up for your course. I should point out as an 8 handicapper that if you take the "Tiger" line then more than half the drives cannot be seen from the tee. And I have to agree that 125YTL is a small price to pay for golfing heaven. By the way last week I played Celtic manor for slightly less then that and I could afford a libation in the clubhouse afterwards. But hey! these things are relative. Keep up the propoganda and good luck. |
Hippo
Joined: 02/02/2007 Posts: 2070
Message Posted: 08/12/2007 15:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 39 of 127 in Discussion |
| I have it on good authority that Delboys handicap is under close scruitiny by the match and hndicap committee |
delboy
Joined: 10/09/2007 Posts: 37
Message Posted: 08/12/2007 22:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 40 of 127 in Discussion |
| ok! OK! Hippo I hold my hands up my front nine today were sublime, however the back nine were nothing short of atrocious. Who are you Hippo, and who is the good authority? please pass a message to them whoever they are " stick to the guide lines " ignore rumours by the under achiever brigade. scoop2, thank you for those kind words. Spud1, it was a pleasure to have your company today AND your money, or was that my money retreived from Wed game, anyway safe journey back to UK see you next time out. |
Hippo
Joined: 02/02/2007 Posts: 2070
Message Posted: 09/12/2007 18:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 41 of 127 in Discussion |
| Delboy, in the prizes again today the Hippo spots, a reduction he sees comming soon for you!! |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 11/12/2007 00:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 42 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi delboy many thanks to you and your friends for inviting me to play golf you are all top hole. i am now going to eat humble pie. your course is first class. i can now see why you stick up for your course . thanks again to you all hope to see again soon. spud1 |
delboy
Joined: 10/09/2007 Posts: 37
Message Posted: 12/12/2007 00:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 43 of 127 in Discussion |
| Hippo, the handicap comm done the bizz and left me alone, obviously following the guide lines and not rumours from the under achievers and stirrers, which category do you fall into?. spud1, it was a pleasure to have your company and your money!!. Look forward to your next visit, keep in touch. delboy and wench!! |
Hippo
Joined: 02/02/2007 Posts: 2070
Message Posted: 12/12/2007 17:36 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 44 of 127 in Discussion |
| Ah a little bird told the Hippo you cleaned up again Delboy, took your card home he heard also, never mind the spy in the sky has a copy. |
delboy
Joined: 10/09/2007 Posts: 37
Message Posted: 12/12/2007 19:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 45 of 127 in Discussion |
| Hippo this is my reaction to your observations a BIG BIG HIPPO "YAWN". Reveal yourself are you a Hippo or a MOUSE ?!!. The copy must be a fake the original never left my sight, although at one stage it was in your possesion but just long enough so you could read it and weep, and just dream!!!. that one day you too could play proper golf. |
delboy
Joined: 10/09/2007 Posts: 37
Message Posted: 12/12/2007 19:47 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 46 of 127 in Discussion |
| Hippo this is my reaction to your observations a BIG BIG HIPPO "YAWN". Reveal yourself are you a Hippo or a MOUSE ?!!. The copy must be a fake the original never left my sight, although at one stage it was in your possesion but just long enough so you could read it and weep, and just dream!!!. that one day you too could play proper golf. |
delboy
Joined: 10/09/2007 Posts: 37
Message Posted: 12/12/2007 20:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 47 of 127 in Discussion |
| Sorry about the double tap. |
Hippo
Joined: 02/02/2007 Posts: 2070
Message Posted: 13/12/2007 09:25 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 48 of 127 in Discussion |
| It will be a double tap on your present handicap when the committe reviews it. |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 13/12/2007 12:15 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 49 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi delboy did you receive my email spud |
delboy
Joined: 10/09/2007 Posts: 37
Message Posted: 13/12/2007 23:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 50 of 127 in Discussion |
| Hi spud1 yes I did and the same to you!! Merry Christmas and a happy New Year |
Hippo
Joined: 02/02/2007 Posts: 2070
Message Posted: 14/12/2007 14:45 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 51 of 127 in Discussion |
| Hi Delboy Shouldn't your avtur have a mask on? |
delboy
Joined: 10/09/2007 Posts: 37
Message Posted: 14/12/2007 18:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 52 of 127 in Discussion |
| Hippo, you have me confused, I only understand the English Language , what is an avtur. |
Hippo
Joined: 02/02/2007 Posts: 2070
Message Posted: 16/12/2007 11:14 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 53 of 127 in Discussion |
| Avtur= Your picture Bad day at the office for you yesterday the Hippo has been told, hear some of your friends took your pocket money. |
Oscar
Joined: 16/12/2007 Posts: 4
Message Posted: 16/12/2007 11:47 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 54 of 127 in Discussion |
| I just happened to be at the 19th hole the other Wednesday enjoying a beer after surviving the trials and tribulations of your difficult course. I couldn't help but hear the sour grapes coming from one person in particular (looking very much like a HIPPO), directed at one other person who presumably is Delboy. Yes Delboy was smug, but wouldn't you be if you could score 38 points with 2 blobs!! But then to hear Hippo had come in with a front nine of 21 points with 2 blobs - well me thinks Hippo is too fat to be able to keep his concentration going for 18 holes. It was noticeable that no cards were offered for scrutiny for handicap reduction - but both of these bandits need to have some proper adjustment to their cards. I would say that anyone getting more than 30 points is doing OK for themselves - a difficult and very scenic Golf Curse and one that I will play again. |
Hippo
Joined: 02/02/2007 Posts: 2070
Message Posted: 16/12/2007 11:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 55 of 127 in Discussion |
| Play again!!!!?????? The Hippo spots an RAF man here he does, who took the back nine for now many weeks now, his trusted spy informs him. |
delboy
Joined: 10/09/2007 Posts: 37
Message Posted: 16/12/2007 13:20 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 56 of 127 in Discussion |
| Hi Hippo, nobody took my pocket money, they were just retrieving a fraction off their own that I am safeguarding in my stash off winnings. Oscar, your hearing isn't as good as you think, it was 38 and no blobs, as for hippos score I for one am not particulary interested in other players scores, I concentrate on my own game, perhaps that is the secret. I also concentrate on the conversation within my own company to do otherwise is downright rude!. I also take umbrage to being labelled a bandit especially from someone that does not even know me, why don't you and all the other under achievers mind your own business, by the way the handicap committee have the cards they require after competitions and scrutinise I believe on a monthly basis. |
dodger
Joined: 29/07/2007 Posts: 1895
Message Posted: 16/12/2007 13:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 57 of 127 in Discussion |
| No stress playing golf then,chill out guys. |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 16/12/2007 13:45 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 58 of 127 in Discussion |
| whats all this banter regards to delboys handicap its just he is more competative than most thats why he scores well your handicap comes from your medal round which includes your stapleford score golf is a funny game next time he plays he might come in with a very low score will you give him some shots back spud1 |
delboy
Joined: 10/09/2007 Posts: 37
Message Posted: 16/12/2007 13:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 59 of 127 in Discussion |
| Well said spud1, GRRR!! Stress is a major part in all competitive games, but i will try and chill out HONEST!!! |
dodger
Joined: 29/07/2007 Posts: 1895
Message Posted: 16/12/2007 14:16 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 60 of 127 in Discussion |
| All, I do actually play golf (not enough unfortunateley)and three years ago i managed to get down to a sixteen handicap which included my best ever score of a gross 80,actually missed a three foot putt for a 79,this was on a par 70 course.But then i started to get to serious with the game and analysing my swing my putting my bottom hand etc.and from a 16 handicap shot up to a 28 and stopped enjoying the game.I know struggle to go round in less then 100.But next year i am going to start again and hopefully it will come back.Its all in the mind guys or so i am told. |
Hippo
Joined: 02/02/2007 Posts: 2070
Message Posted: 16/12/2007 14:29 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 61 of 127 in Discussion |
| Oscar's another bandit Delboy (in the nicest posible way of course) he must have had his RADAR working that day. I believe copies of his back nine's have been obtained. |
Oscar
Joined: 16/12/2007 Posts: 4
Message Posted: 16/12/2007 16:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 62 of 127 in Discussion |
| To Delboy - at my age memories are sometimes blurred, so apologies if I have upset you. I am not a rude person and did not intend to listen in your post match analysis, but it did seem to me to be of good humour tinged with envy. I admire your golf game; reading all the comments, you seem to be one who has managed to get to grips with the course and play to a consistent level. Good of you to achieve this and long may you continue to do so. To Hippo - I am not ex-RAF. I was a Naval type conscripted into the finest Military outfit, so think you have got your RADAR completely wrong and got me mixed up with another of your playing partners. No offence taken at the slur of RAF. I look forward to playing the course again on my next visit sometime in the Spring of 2008 - irrespective of the cost. Best wishes to all for a handicap reducing 2008 from a cold wet UK. |
Hippo
Joined: 02/02/2007 Posts: 2070
Message Posted: 16/12/2007 18:20 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 63 of 127 in Discussion |
| Member Oscar Member Picture Name John Varley Age 58 Gender Male Marital Status Married Location Ozankoy Occupation Retired Member Since 16/12/2007 Last Post 16/12/2007 Total Posts 2 Email varleys-retired@sunnycyprus.net The Hippo rests his case. The evidence is there |
delboy
Joined: 10/09/2007 Posts: 37
Message Posted: 16/12/2007 22:15 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 64 of 127 in Discussion |
| The plot thickens, HIPPO V OSCAR. That takes the pressure off me, at least you know who I am. Oscar I'm not really upset just defending myself, RAF NAVY ARMY who gives a ----, dodger, when you shot an 80, on the day you played to a 10 or better well done it's a shame your game went pear shaped, stick with it you have done it once you can do it again, a little praise and encouragement can make the difference. It's a great pity that some playing colleagues want to belittle ones success and use gamesmanship to try and rattle, and boy does it rattle me, I call it bad sportsmanship, there i go again and i did promise to chill !!. Last post from hippo must be bordering on the DATA Protection ACT!! |
dodger
Joined: 29/07/2007 Posts: 1895
Message Posted: 16/12/2007 22:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 65 of 127 in Discussion |
| Another reason why my game went down the swannie was due to my cheating ex best mate of over 20 years.A couple of years ago we were playing as a four ball in tunisia whilst on holiday there.For months my mother mates and myself had suspeted thi certain person of fiddling but couldnt prove it then one day we caught him red handed.Still makes my blood boil now even typing the story. Anyway,we all teed of and hit pretty good drives,walked up to play our second shots.On theleft was a row of trees and behind the trees was a fence which ran along the hole right up to the green.I took my shoy and managed to reach the front of th green.The next player went and did a similar shot.My father in law took his and it went straight over the fence(out of bounds) Then the cheat went and hit exactly the same shot as the father in law.They both went walking up to find point of entry so they could drop,when the cheat produced a ball out of his pocket,not knowing that we were watching and shouted out "its o.k. ive found mine so i will play three from here. PART 2 LATER. |
delboy
Joined: 10/09/2007 Posts: 37
Message Posted: 16/12/2007 23:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 66 of 127 in Discussion |
| dodger I can't wait!! as a matter off interest and not wishing to spoil your story they both should have taken a penalty and drop a ball on the spot off their second shot, thus playing 3 from that spot. Sorry if that has spoilt your story or joke!!. |
Hippo
Joined: 02/02/2007 Posts: 2070
Message Posted: 17/12/2007 07:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 67 of 127 in Discussion |
| Sorry Delboy, The information is in the public domain, just click on your name and all the info comes up. Hippo (eneough nerves touched now he thinks) |
delboy
Joined: 10/09/2007 Posts: 37
Message Posted: 17/12/2007 21:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 68 of 127 in Discussion |
| dodger, sorry that should be 4 from the spot off the 2 shot. Where is part 2? can't wait. |
dodger
Joined: 29/07/2007 Posts: 1895
Message Posted: 17/12/2007 23:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 69 of 127 in Discussion |
| Yes, thats right as you also get penalised for losing your ball.The one that never cheated did actually play four from the point that we estimated that the ball entered,but thats not really important to the story. |
dodger
Joined: 29/07/2007 Posts: 1895
Message Posted: 17/12/2007 23:45 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 70 of 127 in Discussion |
| Thats not the end though but have to sign off due to work commitments, TO BE CONTINUED. |
dodger
Joined: 29/07/2007 Posts: 1895
Message Posted: 18/12/2007 21:03 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 71 of 127 in Discussion |
| So anyway,my father in law and myself saw my best mate of over twenty years take a ball out of his pocket throw it on the floor and then claim that it had landed there from his second shot. after he took his third shot not one person in the party spoke to him and that was nearly three years ago and i still havent spoken a word to him since.His wife and my wife are still friends and think that we are stuoid for falling out but they dont really understand as it is a man thing (sexist) i have since heard though that he was caught doing exactly the same thing ina stableford and was thrown out on the spot and banned,so i suppose he eventually got what he deserved.Golf eh. |
delboy
Joined: 10/09/2007 Posts: 37
Message Posted: 18/12/2007 22:03 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 72 of 127 in Discussion |
| dodger, That is a very moving story, it is a shame that such a long friendship should end over a game. Look at ALL other sports and a certain amount of cheating, fouling, swearing and violence is incorporated into the game with yellow / red cards sin bins etc, I think though that is what makes the game of golf pretty unique, but lets not kid ourselves human nature takes control and some players of all standards are tempted into stupid errors of judgement. (cheat) Woe betide though, if you play golf, once branded you will be watched and caught. Punishment might lead to your dismissal from the course club and golf in general. More importantly loss of friendships and respect from your peers. I Love all sports and believe that honesty and integrity should be uppermost in all sports persons prioritys. Hope you and your mate can get it back on, he I think will have to face up to it and crawl big style. " Just going for a nice friendly game of golf in the morning" Delboy. |
dodger
Joined: 29/07/2007 Posts: 1895
Message Posted: 18/12/2007 23:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 73 of 127 in Discussion |
| Thanks for the reply delboy, i agree with what you say in your last post,cant see how we will ever be mates again though both to stubborn for that.What eats at me is the fact that he could not only cheat his best mate but cheat himself as well.We did everything together right from school,girls rugby,football,boozing,the odd scrape (nothing serious) now when the christmas card arrives his name isnt even on it just his wifes name as if he was dead.Wierd. |
lobylud
Joined: 14/10/2007 Posts: 242
Message Posted: 19/12/2007 00:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 74 of 127 in Discussion |
| Even if he crawled big style, once a cheat always a cheat, it's in his nature. If he wants to win that way, let him play on his own and cheat himself. I'm with you on this dodger. |
dodger
Joined: 29/07/2007 Posts: 1895
Message Posted: 19/12/2007 00:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 75 of 127 in Discussion |
| Thanks for that Lobylud |
delboy
Joined: 10/09/2007 Posts: 37
Message Posted: 20/12/2007 22:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 76 of 127 in Discussion |
| Hi dodger Nearly agreed with lobylud but thought long and hard about it, I came to the conclusion that "IF" it was me and my old friend came with a genuine unconditional apology I would accept it. I have played golf long enough to know that very few if any golfers have not taken advantage sometime during their playing career and I include professionals in that statement. (not necessarily taken a ball out of their pocket). When you are next out let me know perhaps we can arrange a game or two, I'm sure we can get your game back on track. Not so sure if I can give you h/p of 28! I will split the difference from 16 and will give you 22 and that is generous. I might even let you tell the odd rude joke providing you promise to get it right! PS, no hate mail from all you TOTALLY honest golfers! |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 21/12/2007 15:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 77 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi delboy i will be happy to play you off 16 the next time i am out there best regards spud1 |
dodger
Joined: 29/07/2007 Posts: 1895
Message Posted: 21/12/2007 21:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 78 of 127 in Discussion |
| take you up on that offer mate. |
delboy
Joined: 10/09/2007 Posts: 37
Message Posted: 21/12/2007 22:29 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 79 of 127 in Discussion |
| Nice 1 dodger, I am now very wary, you were toooooo! quick to accept 22 h/p !! spud1 must be some sort of commmmmmmmmmunicatiuon probbbbbbblem last i heard you were 10 then you were 11 and finally you were12 all in the space of 2 weeks now you want 16 what 's that all about. Just won a massive TURKEY on Wednesday don't know what to do with it any suggestions. Keep it clean!!. |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 22/12/2007 18:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 80 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi delboy i am now 11.5 playing off 12 72 in medal cut .2 from 11.7 i was about to go up to 13 with the winter revision i dont think they do a revision in north cyprus if you dont play to your handicap through out the year you can have shots given back to you regards spud1 |
gottheyips
Joined: 28/12/2007 Posts: 444
Message Posted: 02/01/2008 23:13 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 81 of 127 in Discussion |
| spud1, I changed my handle from delboy to gottheyips it seemed more appropriate, Just paid my 2nd years subs broke my heart and increased the yips but hey I love it , the course by the way is improving in leaps and bounds even with all the knockers my handicap remains at 14.5 (15). |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 02/01/2008 23:25 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 82 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi gottheyips hope to be back end of jan are you up for another game happy new year to you and gaffer spud1 |
gottheyips
Joined: 28/12/2007 Posts: 444
Message Posted: 02/01/2008 23:32 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 83 of 127 in Discussion |
| You must be mistaken me for someone else I am the gaffer, one of my christmas prezzies was dosh for my subs, mind u I was kept on tender hooks as to where i was going to get the money!!. Always up for a game bring your dosh as I need to start saving for 2009s subs. Let me know when you are coming. Derek. |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 02/01/2008 23:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 84 of 127 in Discussion |
| ok many thanks dont forget i was having a drink on the patio with your better half when you were yipping before your prize presentation i know who is the gaffer spud1 regards roy |
Tim10
Joined: 01/01/2008 Posts: 114
Message Posted: 04/01/2008 15:49 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 85 of 127 in Discussion |
| Good golf and good food -- does not get much better, liked the food better! |
gottheyips
Joined: 28/12/2007 Posts: 444
Message Posted: 05/01/2008 22:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 87 of 127 in Discussion |
| The guys an ACE |
Tim10
Joined: 01/01/2008 Posts: 114
Message Posted: 05/01/2008 22:49 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 88 of 127 in Discussion |
| Cool -- but what does this have to do with golf? I missed the point....sorry.... But very COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Tim10
Joined: 01/01/2008 Posts: 114
Message Posted: 05/01/2008 23:01 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 89 of 127 in Discussion |
| oops...posted a message in the wrong thread...Got it as Oscar is former RAF... How did he get away with that with the discipline in the RAF? Bet you could not get away with it two decades ago! |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 06/01/2008 22:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 90 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi gottheyips are you up for a game on 13th feb spud1 |
gottheyips
Joined: 28/12/2007 Posts: 444
Message Posted: 06/01/2008 23:01 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 91 of 127 in Discussion |
| Silly question !!! 0800hrs. bring plenty of dosh and h/p cert ( only jesting). ps ,, I now take euros as well as LSD, |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 20/01/2008 20:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 92 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi gottheyips i am saving up some dosh out of my pension just in case i have a bad day regards spud1 |
gottheyips
Joined: 28/12/2007 Posts: 444
Message Posted: 20/01/2008 20:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 93 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi spud1, is your good lady out with you? if so are you aware there is a valentines do on the Thursday 14th. You are more than welcome to join us on our table, there are 6 of us so far. |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 20/01/2008 20:50 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 94 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi gottheyips i am on my own christines dad in hospital she wont leave him has is 92 and not to well. her younger sister who looked after him passed away 6 months ago thats why she never came in dec. if i wont be the odball out i would still like to come is it at the golf club. did you get my email regards to batterys for golf trolleys spud1 |
gottheyips
Joined: 28/12/2007 Posts: 444
Message Posted: 20/01/2008 22:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 95 of 127 in Discussion |
| Hi spud1, sorry to hear Christines dad is not well hope things turn for the good. It is at the golf club consider your self booked in, odball Hmmmm sounds apt!!. Ref batterys they are available but I'm told very expensive, no confirmation on that, actually I need a new battery myself but to ask one to fetch it from UK is a little cheeky as they are quite heavy, and I don't know if there are any problems with the airlines!!. |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 21/01/2008 00:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 96 of 127 in Discussion |
| gottheyips thanks look forward to it will i need a jacket & tie spud1 |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 22/01/2008 13:56 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 97 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi gottheyips let me know what your battery is i will see what i can do i am hopeing to bring a small 20amp out one for myself they only 6kg if yours is the power battery they are 10.5kg spud1 |
gottheyips
Joined: 28/12/2007 Posts: 444
Message Posted: 22/01/2008 17:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 98 of 127 in Discussion |
| Hi spud1 I suspect most will wear collar n tie but doubt it's cumpulsory. Do not worry about the battery it is to heavy and I have no wish to put you to such an inconvenience. See you soon. |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 22/01/2008 19:33 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 99 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi gottheyips collar & tie it is its no problem with battery if not this time next time i have sent an email to airline to find out about carrying batterys will let you know we are allowed 25kg each if christines comes next time it wont be a problem if yours is not to good you can use mine when i return home spud1 |
gottheyips
Joined: 28/12/2007 Posts: 444
Message Posted: 22/01/2008 20:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 100 of 127 in Discussion |
| Hi spud1 many thanks i might just take you up on that. I think your offer on your next trip out will allow us both to identify the exact type of battery, i would hate the thought of you transporting one all the way here and find it was the wrong type!. What date are you coming out?. |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 23/01/2008 00:21 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 101 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi gottheyips arrive at 23.45 monday 11th feb to ercan have car at airport hope to have sky fitted on tuesday 12th if they turn up !! look forward to meeting up with you all on wed to try and win some dosh towards sky instalation???? if you need to contact me mobile num 5338679256 spud1 |
gottheyips
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Message Posted: 28/02/2008 11:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 102 of 127 in Discussion |
| spud1 contact me on my email address |
debandmick
Joined: 02/05/2008 Posts: 1
Message Posted: 03/05/2008 00:29 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 103 of 127 in Discussion |
| Hello Delboy, we have just joined the forum and read with interest your defence of your golf club. We haven't read all the posts, and so the answer to this question may already be there. Is it possible to join the golf club, and if so, how much are subscriptions for the year? ( Man and Wife.) Maybe you could oblige us by providing a direct phone number and or website. Kind Regards Deb and Mick |
gottheyips
Joined: 28/12/2007 Posts: 444
Message Posted: 03/05/2008 06:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 104 of 127 in Discussion |
| Hi Deb and Mick The information you require can be found on the club website; info@korineumgolf.com tel-00903926001500. If you plan a trip out please email me and I will gladly introduce you both to the course, you will not be disappointed. Kind Regards Derek and Gail |
Coachie
Joined: 29/07/2008 Posts: 2135
Message Posted: 06/08/2008 22:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 105 of 127 in Discussion |
| i have just been on the web site for the golf course and if you care to have a look gentlemen i think you willsee that they quote there prices in eoros.i have e-mailed them to clarify this. ihope it is in euros cos it will be alot cheaper. |
arnold19
Joined: 14/07/2008 Posts: 2
Message Posted: 25/12/2008 01:15 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 106 of 127 in Discussion |
| Delboy are you sure that you that the handicap you gave on joining the club was right??? Perhaps you should come clean and put the record straight. |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 25/12/2008 11:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 107 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi arnold19. nice one. lets see if you receive a reply. he now calls himself gottheyips. |
negativenick
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Message Posted: 25/12/2008 23:21 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 108 of 127 in Discussion |
| oy Hippo, Thought you'd said you weren't posting on this board again because of moderators.. i thought Hippo's had long memories ! Nick |
lesshaw42
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Message Posted: 24/01/2009 21:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 109 of 127 in Discussion |
| me and my son will be out in nc aat the end of march and would like a game with a member,were both newish to the game and play off 28,if anyone would like to suffer and gives us a game we would be greatly thank full.....oh and do we need a handicap certificate... |
AndyLynnW
Joined: 05/12/2008 Posts: 61
Message Posted: 25/01/2009 18:36 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 110 of 127 in Discussion |
| Coming out in February, currently play off 8 on a good standard course here, interested in playing so website link very useful....many thanks. |
Bigboy
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Message Posted: 28/01/2009 02:00 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 111 of 127 in Discussion |
| Hi Andy I will be in the UK until the 11/02/09, but if you want a rouund call me on 0533 869 1552 and I am sure we will have a good time, when you get over here. |
lesshaw42
Joined: 21/01/2009 Posts: 101
Message Posted: 28/01/2009 13:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 112 of 127 in Discussion |
| i will be out in nc in march and would like to know if any member of esentepe would like a game,im an average player (28 hc),let me know thank you. |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 17/04/2009 12:16 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 113 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi arnold19. did you ever get a reply from delboy regards his handicap!!!!!!!!!! |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 17/04/2009 19:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 114 of 127 in Discussion |
| come on delboy or gottheyips. reply to arnold19 remarks about your handicap before you joined korineum golf club. or people will think he was right. spud1 |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 19/04/2009 00:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 115 of 127 in Discussion |
| come on delboy lets have a reply or was you a single handicap player at your uk golf club |
spud1
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Message Posted: 02/05/2009 13:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 116 of 127 in Discussion |
| come on delboy lets have a reply to arnold19s question |
rowlo
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Message Posted: 02/05/2009 17:24 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 117 of 127 in Discussion |
| give up spud1 , hes obviously cheated you , or hes died , taking to long to answer you ???? |
gottheyips
Joined: 28/12/2007 Posts: 444
Message Posted: 03/05/2009 20:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 118 of 127 in Discussion |
| rowlo, Against my better judgement I have decided to respond. I think it was " he's obviously cheated you" that stirred me. Firstly I'm alive and kicking. Secondly you should know by others experiences and the number of posts you have made, that it's impossible to defend yourself against an untrue, but nevertheless extremely damaging accusation COWARDLY made on the forum. I'm not very good with words but can and will express myself in other ways to defend my honour and integrity, preferably nose to nose with liers and s..t stirrers. arnold19 and spud1 You can find me at Korineum golf club at least 3 times a week, that by the way is not an offer for a (ROUND) of golf. "We are the people" gottheyips |
rowlo
Joined: 12/10/2008 Posts: 4796
Message Posted: 03/05/2009 21:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 119 of 127 in Discussion |
| well done , gottheyips , you replied to them , if you need a caddy ,, corner man , email me , lol /// |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 03/05/2009 22:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 120 of 127 in Discussion |
| gottheyips. it took you a long enough reply. but you have still not replied to arnold19 question. regards to a round of golf i am already fixed up so i will give you a miss. if you can remember you still owe christine & myself a drink from when we beat you last year 7-6 spud1 |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 05/05/2009 20:45 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 121 of 127 in Discussion |
| gottheyips. i am a no liar. i will be there in a few weeks time. i am still hoping to get my drink you owe me. spud1. |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 16/05/2009 15:45 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 122 of 127 in Discussion |
| gothteyips. still waiting for a reply regards to drink you owe us. spud1 |
pemos
Joined: 13/11/2008 Posts: 626
Message Posted: 18/05/2009 19:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 123 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi guys anyone needing info on golf in north cyprus should contact sam bray of the golf federation he's also the handicap and tounament chairman at korineum golf club,i am sure he would be more than happy to help you. email kitchensrus.nc@hotmail.com or tel:0542 8851532 |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 11/06/2009 19:15 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 124 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi gottheyips. nice to meet up with you after my bit of banter. well done last sunday. let me have details of battery. by the way its your turn to buy the the drinks next month. spud1 |
spud1
Joined: 22/05/2007 Posts: 544
Message Posted: 17/07/2009 18:11 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 125 of 127 in Discussion |
| hi gottheyips. as you have not replied to my message on 11th june i take it you no longer require a battery. back over on monday so no time now to sort it out. spud1. |
gottheyips
Joined: 28/12/2007 Posts: 444
Message Posted: 17/07/2009 23:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 126 of 127 in Discussion |
| spud1, Sorry missed your message 11th June, my loss, but thanks for the offer. See you on the course or the 19th and I will buy you a wee drink. |
woolie
Joined: 25/10/2009 Posts: 6
Message Posted: 25/10/2009 22:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 127 of 127 in Discussion |
| delboy, I am visiting Kyrenia with my wife 4-11th Nov,09, possibly also following week, and would love to play golf with member(s). we are reasonable golfers 12 & 17 hcp. Do you know any mixed couples or single members for that matter who be so kind to sign us in to make it more affordable? we are not cheapskates but 2 or 3 rounds for husband & wife starts to add up! |
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