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pollymarples


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I would ask anyone posting on this topic to be respectful of others. I would ask those who hijacked the previous thread and caused it to be closed down not to do it again. I would ask the moderator to ban them if they do.



I would ask all of C44 TO BEAR IN MIND that now there is an effective news blackout at least until next Tuesday on all K5's sufferings to not play into the hands of those who are trying to deny us this vehicle.



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the purchasers on Kulaksiz 5 who have been threatened with eviction are worried that the press blackout has been arranged by Akfinans Bank so that they can remove them from their properties without documentary evidence being available. For example, in my opinion, there will be no reporters at the site because they have been instructed not to write a story about it. This also means that anyone videoing or photographing the events could, in my opinion, be intimidated into handing over evidence on the basis of the decision that there should be no reporting.

Remember, if you don't have your title deeds - YOU COULD BE NEXT!



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It may be useful to give a link to the closed thread as well http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/59581.asp

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Thank you ismet, as usual your contribution is very much appreciated. This is a very stressful time for us all and if I insulted anyone or hurt anyone's feeling on the thread referred to, I apologise.



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I do not fully understand the 'legal' complexities of the situation K'5 residents /owners find themselves in and can not comment on this area.



However, the apparent injustice, obvious stress, sense of unfairness, and anxiety it must be causing so many people can not be denied; many have expressed this here and on other platforms.



I can also see that some people might, for whatever reason, view the situation in a different light (and I won't attempt to provide examples) which is also their right. What I would respectively request is that people refrain from posting comments (or responding to comments) unless they can actually provide help to K'5 people.



Surely this will help keep this thread on topic and avoid unncessary unpleasent spin offs.



This is a beautiful country, there are kind and generous people living here who are open to share this with us. However, as in ALL countries there are things that could /should be changed, lets not forget that.



K5 justice 4 U.



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Excellent post Dreamydiver



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I second that dreamydiver. What a fair mnded lady you are.



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after the original censorship thread was closed the issue seems to have become "Akfinaned"



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This is a beautiful country, there are kind and generous people living here who are open to share this with us. However, as in ALL countries there are things that could /should be changed,and the government know what they are BUT for nefarious or corrupt reasons CHOOSE not to do so.



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we are with you k5



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Thank you and after this weekend, you may be asked to prove it. Do you really think Akfinans will not use this blackout for some dastardly deed.



K 5 may well be needing much more than moral support.



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pollymarples,



I feel so useless here in the UK! please everyone in the TRNC support these K5 victims!



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Have the Press in the UK and the South been informed of the injustice that the Akfinans Bank is in the process of doing? It may be the only way letting the world know about the lack of human rights forigners in this 3rd world dictatorship have, and may make other potential victims aware of the situation.



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There is no need to let the ones in the 'south' know as they've known it for many years,which I'm also sure that you know too from the names they've been calling 'you' for years!

As for UK?



















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Yorg, even Turkey knows - http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=britons-reportedly-being-evicted-from-their-houses-in-northern-cyprus-2011-03-28



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malsancak;

I do not agree one single bit to whats happening to these people at K5 or anywhere else for that matter.



Sorry for being off topic,

But,I just can not hold up to ones that are CORRUPT themselves,expecting everything else around them to be rosie and have the cheek to talk about human rights,while they carry on stealing from the estate.







sustantivo



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There will a 400 word article in a RoC newspaper tomorrw Dixie Normus. Every time it goes out in the south it has more chance of being picked up in other countries.



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There will a 400 word article in a RoC newspaper tomorrw Dixie Normus. Every time it goes out in the south it has more chance of being picked up in other countries.



If what i expect to happen, happens this weekend, then I have grave misgivings for everyone with a mortgage on their property.



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I'll do you a favour and post this thread on the other forum for you.



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http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=665988#665988



There you have it.No need to worry anymore.



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yorg, my point is that the K5 story can be published in Turkey, supposedly anti-press freedom, and yet not in the TRNC



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pollymarples



Keep strong, K5 story can be published anywhere in the world (apart from the TRNC) I'm beavering away gnawing at the truth, for both K5 and Aga victims! they can try to shut our mouths, but the truth will out!



It always does



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Two new and interesting items:



1. Article in the Famagusta gazette - lovely picture of the Bank Manager being window framed again,



2. Article on nature study on NCFP - A VERY RARE CACTUS is due to bloom at K5 and we may have to call on those of you who are interested to come at short notice. Now this may sound off thread, but I promise you if you go to NCFP IT IS NOT. After all the press cannot go there, might upset the Bank, you might even be able to provide them with a snap of this rare and exotic plant. I am sure they wio appreciate it.



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Article 2



Must be of interest to nature lovers "A VERY RARE CACTUS" It's like having "BATS IN THE BELFRY" in the UK any endangered species must be allowed to live in peace in it's habitat!



Article 1 - such a good image



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I know they have drive through banks in the U.S.



Do they have break through banks in the TRNC



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I'd be up for a bit of 'prickly' inspection. Just give the nod, and I would have to capture such a beauty on camera for posterity - as an interested TRNC resident!!! Of course! Can't be arrested for taking pics of natural beauty, can o ne?



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Might mean getting up at sparrows f*r*. Marion, still I am sure your love of nature will overcome your need from sleep.



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Bring your press card Marion so yu could not have your camera confiscated by other jealous conservation

nerds.



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United we stand, divided we fall. More information about photographing and videoing the "rare event" at http://www.northcyprusfreepress.com/2011/03/30/kulaksiz-5-north-cyprus-nature-ramble-to-observe-rare-occurance/



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DOES ANYONE HAVE THE E MAIL ADDRESS FOR AFRIKA newspaper 0R IS IT Africa.



Needed urgently.



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'pm'/Msg 30:



I hope the following 'link' may be of use to you..............



http://www.edevlet.eu/goster.aspx?Uc=tr-tr&grp=0&subid=31



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Thanks Tenakoutou I will use it



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I, for one, am not the least surprised about this [alleged] 'press-gagging'..............just read the 'link' below:



http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=journalists-call-the-gov8217t-for-the-release-of-colleagues-2011-03-20



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pollymarples



http://www.afrikagazetesi.net/iletisim.html



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Do Akfinans Re-insure their debts?



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mrperfect I will ask and I expect the answer to be - duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. could they have a policy with Akfinans Sigorta, Perhpas I am being unfair and it is with Lloyds of London



Thanks yorgo. It would be nice if some of the Turkish Cypriots who came to the auction came to see this rare

bloom, their eyes might stand out on stalks. Any chance of your friends being interested in rare plants

yorgo.



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http://www.kulaksiz5.com/

This is the website for our group. We hope to keep you informed and we hope you will join.



Water bill paid by Akfinans Bank - now have control of thr water supply. Told the beledeysi they were the owners of all the villas - ?electricity next. see Pauine's comments on NCFP SHORTLY.



The intimidation continues. Such lovely people just makes you want to hug them round the neck and squeeze them, and never stop.



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Nice website Pauline,



It would be good if each website could put links onto others, ie Abag's and John's moonfruit site! so any future victims who look up property in the TRNC will know the truth I think stu simpson was making one as regards Thalassa? and anyone who's thinking of making one about Alpan Uz? we can all link together to get the message across..............



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at http://www.northcyprusfreepress.com/2011/03/31/north-cyprus-property-problems-kulaksiz-5-website-launched-at-www-kulaksiz5-com/



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Msg 39 this will cost nothing



then buy a site with the name Cyprus in it



Abag? k5? thalassa? etc



only people involved know these names



A web name is about 7 quid a year



you can direct all to 1 site



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philbailey (mess 40)



I take what you are saying on board "thank you" I am not very computer literate, but know victims that are!.............. and do think that together we could be a very strong fighting force!



It won't be long before this very small Island will be strangled into a corner with it's corruption that has no where to go!



Being a nature lover I can't wait for the native of Northern Cyprus the not so rare orchid "Akfinanas Snatchit" to rear it's ugly head! like it has done many many times before!



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Polly put the kettle on, Polly put the kettle on....................and if there is a coffee waiting, Marion and camera will be there as a keen ornithologist, (or should it be 'thorniologist?).



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As you can guess. Luddite Pauline cannot take credit, Bob French's son did the honours with the K5 site



It would be good if all Property Victims site somehow inter connected, reading about one unforutnate set of people might not sway people from buying here, reading about so many definitely will. This is the age of

communication and it is made so easy except for poor Pauline who thinks that the Web is where spider

lives (sorry spider)



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Here we go agan, another day another picture of a man going through a window.



See NCFP TO GET THE PICTURE AND THE STORY.



Google Cyprus Mail to get the online story no picture.



You pays your money you takes your choice OR in Kulaksiz 5's case



They pays their money, Akfinans Bank Limited takes their home.



You Couldn't make it up. NOw lets hope one of the wire services picks this up.



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http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/british-evictions-highlight-north-s-property-perils/20110401



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for another look at what the Cyprus Mail article about Akfinans Bank says is "the manager of the local bank... entering one villa through the kitchen window" see http://www.northcyprusfreepress.com/2011/04/01/akfinans-bank-bad-news-travels-fast/



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See the article now taken on by on the move on their internet site. If they have seen it and used it, who will be next???



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Here's a thought, wouldn't it have been better not to have asked for a gagging order and kept the news

in house as it were. Now we are breaking new ground simply because of their asking. The press do not like their freedom being attacked. So thank you Akfinans, in one fell swoop you have achieved more for us than

we would ever have achieved without you. Deep down there is a caring and sharing side to your nature,.



Talking of nature I am told the rare orchid (or is it a cactus ) is almost ready to bloom Go to NCFP

AND SEND YOUR CONTACT DETAILS if you do not want to miss it.



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The bud is swelling as I write - blink and you'll miss it.



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Thats open to opinion "Is it an Orchid or is it a Cactus"?



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Having a post deleted on a censorship thread

strange or a sign of things to come

ref .msg50



Phil

If you want to take this thread off topic then at least look at your e-mails first and also read message one.



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I think it might be a corchidactus a very rare specimen often grown on wndow sills and very sensitive to size nine boots coming through. I am not too 'up' on plants but to see one would be a unique experience, on seeing one people have ben known t exclaim "I don't believe it".



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Well pollymarples I certainly "believe it" being very into gardening in the TRNC I know how these specimens grow! they are very very greedy plants that need more and more food until they "pop" and then the sap just disappears!



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I would be interested in what you said philbailey, can you put another way and still stay on topic. I do agree with you that a thread on censorship should have comments deleted does hold a certain irony.



Storms forecast today and tomorrow - I wonder if that will delay the flowering of the rare but beautiifully

marked corchidactus. In times to come when you are asked - did you see the blooming of the corchidactus

you can raise your head proudly and say YES, i WAS THERE. I have the phtos to prove it.



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Brilliant to see Cyprus Today using the old maxim 'Publish and be Damned'. Interesting to see Slakfinans's comments. 'These (British) people have threatened us, complained about us for no reason and the media have blamed us for no reason, without knowing about the case. "We don't want the media to write about this case". Well no, they wouldn't would they, slinging pensioners aged between 61 and 88 out of their legally bought homes, isn't something they would want the world to know about, now is it? But know they will.



Dirty deeds done in the dark are not palatable to anyone Slakfinans.n How in God's name could a group of pensioners threaten or even pose a threat to Slakfinans who appear to the police in their pocket



Tell me Slakfinans just how much did the Kulaksiz 5 borrow from you?????



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Slakfinans put locks on some electricity meters on K5 overnight - like I said, dirty deeds carried out in darkness.



For those of you (Zoots) who doubt that there was a gagging of news on K5. It was a voluntary act on the part of the newspapers, we hav had strong protests made to CT and it seems they have worked. The case was adjouurned for a week. Will see what next hearing brings. Five members where there at the court on Tuesday so, yes it did take place. Hopefully we will be there next week.



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spoke to a chap from cyprus today at Lambousa today and he wasn't aware of strong protests, just that the judge had not made any such gagging order.

A little knowledge....



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And to whom did you speak at Lambousa Mr smith? It was a request to the papers because...... and Polly \Marples and others at K5 are aware of the truth behind it. Whomsoever made the 'gagging' order in one sense does not matter - what DOES matter is that it was suggested. and for whose protection? But I really would like to know who the chap was/ Brian Thomas? \kerem? who? it is so dangerous here to make any statements unless you have absolute trruth up your sleeve. If not, then best to say ' it has been said that...' it was reported that.....;' but best not to quote someone who is not involved in the case.

No criticism intended, but there are so many hurting people at K5 and other pl.aces who have desperately been trying to find help and support for a year now that I feel that whatever is written must have absolute fact to back up the statement.



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Mess 60. I spoke to the news editor. He is someone I guess should know.



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Who knows, who knows what in the TRNC AnthonySmith?



They all see no evil, speak no evil, and hear no evil! everything is beautiful in Airy Fairy Land



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Three wise, or not so wise, monkeys TRNCVictim



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Still don't know who you mean, AS. The Editor is a lady, but there are several reporters. As to TRNC victim, I guess you are in to the Power of Positive Thinking! nice one!

And did you speak to Nick ofd The Star AS as I believe they were next door to C.T.

But sadly as many of us know the truth rarely raises its true beautiful head out here. It gets hammered into the ground as false representatives parade their colours, which are truly beautiful to behold and fool many. (yes, including man y of us who want to believe in truth and justice.)

But as I sai,d just curious.



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AnthonySmith (mess 63)



This very old TRNC victim has become very very wise! and has got used to smoke screens and mirrors



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Anthony Smith Since you seem to be determined to carry on this ridicuous idea that the Hearing on Tuesday 29th March at Girned District Court did not a) take place or b) K5 somehow decided to lie about it.



Here is chapter and verse as witnessed by me as one of the five Kulaksiz 5 victims standing right outside the door of the courtroom in which Judge Ilkay Sertbay was listening to both side argue their case.

The Advocate for Kibrisgazetesi and C.T. came out and told us that the case was adjourned for a week and that during that week the newspapers had agreed NOT to report on the Kulaksiz 5. During the course of the same evening, we were told by another source that the Advocates for both sides had gotten together and did a deal to that effect. Ordered or voluntarily, it was an effective gag.



We, as a group prevailed upon the Editor of CT (female NOT male) as did some of our supporters. Nothing was printed about us on the Wednesday, not even the Press Release we had sent in



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cont. of above...



to challenge and refute the Bank Statement that appeared in the form of an advert in Kibris Gazetesi on the 23 march 2011

threatening us and the press under Banking Law 39/2001 Article 53. No-one was more surprised and delighted that C.T had shown the courage to print something yesterday, but interestingly had still NOT printed our Press Release. If you go to North Cyprus Free Press you can see the translation of the Bank Statement

in the article written by Pauline Read on the 25th March 2011 entitle 'Akfinans bANK TOSUE kULAKSIZ 5 PENSIONERS THEY ARE EVICTING FROM THEIR HOMES.



Seems you have a gripe with someone AnthonySmith and let me tell you TRNCvictim has forgotten more than you think you know - knowledge earned the hard way, through experience of this corrupt situation.





Continue doubting if you wish - we are not the liars in this debacle.



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With regard to the CORCHIDACTUS blooming this weekend. Well Saturday came and went, let us hope Sunday will do the same.



There was of course the incident of the deadly night(shade) electric boxes being padplocked in the early hours of Saturday morning I am told that the slakfinansicus deadlynightshadeicus plant has no known effective

insecticide and is rampant on Kulaksiz 5, lets hope they do not overshadow the CORCHIDACTUS and cause it to wither and die.



Lets us hope that the publicity given wil cause the invasive plant to think twice and abandon any plans it might have had for this weekend. The future of the CORCHIDACTUS we hope will be preserved.



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Pauline, don't be silly. I haven't got a gripe. Seems you have. The judge made no such order banning stories. Very simple, even odd people writing in the third person should be able to understand.

And you don't know me, so don't start making assumptions about what I know compared to TRNC victim. You want to start getting personal?

You are choosing what you want to believe. Fact is a different matter.

It doesn't matter what any advocate told you, if there is no order banning a story being published endorsed by a judge, then there is no order in place.

Otherwise, why did Cyprus Today publish?

Oh, I'm sorry, you seem to have all the answers.



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Oh dear Mr Smth, touched a nerve, as I said, I know what happened, you cannot even get the sex of the editor

correct. Have I ever got a GRIPE, I think you would have to be blind, deaf and plain stupid NOT to know that.



I have a Gripe with Kulaksiz Construction Ltd, Yuksel Yilmaz, Abdurrahman Guney, Akan Kursat, Ertul Kader, the rest of Akfinans Bank Limited, I have no gripe with you, you just are not important enough.



I write in the third person when I am referring to Pauline simply because I am her alter ego, but guess what, sometimes I forget, so sue me.



Whether the newspaper chooses to gag themselves or the Court orders it, the end result is the same, I cannot speculate why T.C. chose to ungag themselves on Saturday, I would like to think it was the lobbying we did but more important people than us did also.



All the answers, 'I wish,' K5 wouldn't be in the mess we are in if I had all the answers. No one has all the

answers not even you my friend.



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No, you haven't touched a nerve. I said news editor, the person responsible for the news going in the paper. He's a friend. And a man. You read my post again. I'll wait for the apology. But hey, as I said earlier, a little knowledge...



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Sorry perhaps he and the editor should communicate then. I accept you are only the messenger on this occasion. , so I do apologise. I do know that she received calls from London on the subject. The London Turkish Cypriots ,( from whom all Property Victims receive a lot of support and it is reqularly referred to on their

own londonturkish radio station,) were enraged when they heard about Tuesday's hearing and the deal done between the opposing advocates.



Guess we will have to wait and see what the next Hearing brings.



One thing I can assure you of is that I and the other four members of Kulaksz 5 clearly understood what we were told by the Advocate outside the Court on Tuesday last. I wuld not have posted this topic the following day had there been the slightest doubt in my mind. You read the comment from Akfinans's spokesman in the Sat. article in C.T. 'We don't want the media to write about this case.' I think they were brave to publish

that took me totally by surprise



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Pauline is very excited. You all remember that 'dishy' secret service policeman who glued himself to her side

at the Silent Peaceful Candlelit Vigil that ismet so kindly led for us, well he has been on the phone this mornng, invited her for coffee, who knows what that could lead to, maybe even lunch!! Some call her deluded, me included. Well it seems he wanted to know when the protest was, 'what protest would that be ' she says.

He said he had been reading about it. 'Are you talking about the blossoming of the extremely rare CORCHIDACTUS' says Pauline. He agreed that it was inded what he was talking about. 'Well' says Pauline

'If Akfinans turn up to throw people and their furniture out at the same time, people with a real interest in the blossoming of this rare plant, that is called a COINCIDENCE not a PROTEST'.



So what does that show? Pauine is read in high places? If she were paranoid she might think a phone

call was made by a certain Bank to the Chief of Police in



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cont..



Lefkosa and that her 'dishy' policeman was doing as he was told. She keeps saying 'he is lovely'. Of course we all know that couldn't possibly be the case. That really would be paranoid. Things like that do not happen if real life, do they?



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Hows the CORCHIDACTUS doing pollymarples? I assume it's quietly pushing through the undergrowth! let's hope it doesn't become a "Quatermass"



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whats happening ,



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holylou I am hoping the fact that so many would have descended on the KULAKSZ 5 had CORCHIDACTUS shown its head, it stunted its growth and the actual blossoming is delayed.



Certainly the contact by the 'dishy' s.s. policeman confirmed it had reached it's target audience, and in doing so probably thwarted any intended action, for now. Really that is all we could have hoped for.

Why would we want to share such a rare occasion with them?



It is by no means certain that CORCHIDACTUS will not appear and for this reason your contact details will be kept so that we can alert you if it becomes evident it is about to bloom. Thank you to all thoseof you who showed such interest. THis is truly an island of Botanists.



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How naughty to you have to be to be banned. Is bannng a form of censorship (on topic)



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The TRNC Foreign Minister is off to London. He is to address the House of Lords and attend a Dinner whilst he is there. The hard working Turkish Cypriots are under instruction that he will not take questions on K5 or any other property matter, it is not foreign policy. Er, excuse me Mr Minister, British and other Foreign Nationals are having their Human Rights walked all over in a country that bemoans their Human Rights are being violated and it is not Foreign Policy? If as a country TRNC want driect flights, direct trade, lifting of all

embargoes, had that better not start looking as is they are ready.



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Don't forget the HBPG meeting at the Pia Bella on Thursady 7th April 15.30 details on the webpage.



I cannot write anymore I might explode!!!



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Polly whatever you do, don't explode!!!



Join the HBPG meeting at the Pia Bella on Thursday 7th April at 3.30pm!



The TRNC Foreign Minister is off to London to address the "House of Lords" it is so laughable it's almost ridiculous! I just can't put any smiley faces!!!



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Tomorrows Drive Time with Fevzi and Canan on http://www.londonturkishradio.org/ promises to be lively and contraversial - the TRNC Reprresentative will be asked to comment, THeir opinion of the directive that the NGO's being instructed not to ask The Foreign Minister questions about K5 and other property problems will no doubt be aired.

They are to talk to property victims who have been contacting the show.

If you want to take part telephone 00 44 0208 881 2020/0606 text 00 44 7806932966

e mail drivetimeltr@gmail.com Programme on 6.00 to 8.00 p.m U K time

8.00 to 10.00 TRNC time



The really god news I wont be speaking on air this week.



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Some NGO's are boycotting the meeting in The House of Lords , much to the chagrin of Lord Macginnis. Shame, but necessary. |Hope the message gets home.

I have aske don another thread for fullert details of the HBPG meeting. Too short notice for me, but am not sure from the web page what it is really about.

glad PM you have posted about Drivetime.



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I personally think they should withdraw any honour or invitation extended to any Foreign MInister of any country who ignores what is happening to their Nationals in a any country and when the Foreign Minister of that country

has the audacity to say, he will not discuss it. Really TRNC YOU WILL REMAIN IN THE DARK AGES with that attitude.



What is the Foreign MInister going to say in his address, we are a country that does not deserve to be emBargoed or have our Human Rights violated the way they are.



May seem a tad hypocritical if he does.



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It is pleasing to know that some NGO'S ARE boycotting the TRNC Foreign MInisters address to the HOuse of Lords. It is interesting that these Non Governmental Organisations WHO have worked tirelessly in the past to promote the cause of direct travel, lifting of embargoes but choose to show their disgust with the handling of the Property Market problems in the TRNC. Refusing to talk about and address this problem is not winning the TRNC any respect.



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Good programe, sad but there you are, the whole scenario of the property scams is very sad.



Only disappoitment Marions was supposed to be on, but she wasn,t.



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I assume you mean Marian stokes and not me! Tell me more about what happened?



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Srry Marian, I was very tired last night. Of course not you, you would lved to have spoken I know. It may have been a connection problem.



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Read Radio Rita on Ncfp



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on http://www.northcyprusfreepress.com/2011/04/06/review-of-drive-time-with-fevzi-and-canan-radio-programme-542011/



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The Foreign Minister for the TRNC addressed the House of LOrds, no questions on K5 or other property issues were allowed or asked.



Pauine has sent her blog on this to NCFP AND IT WILL BE ONLINE SHORTLY.



She is disgusted.



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