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lilaclady

Joined: 11/02/2011 Posts: 133
Message Posted: 02/04/2011 22:16 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 30 in Discussion |
| hi as i have said before thinking of renting a villa there i would like to find out approx how much a week electricity is i know everyone is different but a rough guide would be helpful |
EsentepeGal

Joined: 12/09/2010 Posts: 144
Message Posted: 02/04/2011 22:23 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 30 in Discussion |
| The major factors are Swimming pool pump and Air Con units, I have a Villa and running 1 A/C unit/pool pump for 3 hours a day (depends on month) +plus fridge, washing machine etc, approx 70 TL a week (£30 ish!!). |
lilaclady

Joined: 11/02/2011 Posts: 133
Message Posted: 02/04/2011 22:52 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 30 in Discussion |
| wow in england it is that much for a month still if you want to live in a place you have to pay thank you so much for answering esentepegal i can now budget for it |
martinD41

Joined: 06/09/2010 Posts: 3001
Message Posted: 02/04/2011 22:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 30 in Discussion |
| msg2 get rid of the pool.have a cold shower, .save money,you know it makes sense |
EsentepeGal

Joined: 12/09/2010 Posts: 144
Message Posted: 02/04/2011 23:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 30 in Discussion |
| Msg 4 Hindsight is wonderfull, sat in the UK, you just have to have a Villa and a pool (Doubt if I used it a dozen times last year, then the pump goes and the sand filter etc etc). |
deputydawg

Joined: 30/03/2010 Posts: 1727
Message Posted: 02/04/2011 23:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 30 in Discussion |
| and, when suffering an innumerate meter reader, many hours can be spent and miles travelled each month in an effort to get bills accurately amended and agreed (if you are lucky) at the main Girne office ! |
EsentepeGal

Joined: 12/09/2010 Posts: 144
Message Posted: 02/04/2011 23:08 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 30 in Discussion |
| Yeah!!!, but if it were that bad we'd all move back, surely? |
Meerkat

Joined: 21/01/2011 Posts: 368
Message Posted: 02/04/2011 23:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 30 in Discussion |
| Electric is expensive in the winter time you need heat so unless you have gas central heating you will need electric oil heaters or use the aircon however, this is all expensive. Depending on the size of the villa & also swimming pool. Just make sure where ever you live you are not on builders electric as that is a nightmare & costs three times as much! In the summer you need the aircon so you still use just as much then. |
rowlo


Joined: 12/10/2008 Posts: 4796
Message Posted: 02/04/2011 23:13 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 30 in Discussion |
| it balances out thru the year , summer you use less , winter more , same as any where , its not rocket science , conserving is the best way , cheaper all year round ? |
Scoty

Joined: 23/05/2010 Posts: 846
Message Posted: 02/04/2011 23:29 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 30 in Discussion |
| Message 9. Funnily enough, I have found the opposite. Electric bills lower in winter, than in summer. Pool pump is on longer during the summer, and more use of aircon, bumps up the bills. Have used aircon for heating and halogen heaters, and bills are a good bit lower than last summers bills. Course we don't have a tumble dryer, which does eat up those units somewhat. |
rowlo


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Message Posted: 03/04/2011 00:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 30 in Discussion |
| turn the aircon of get ceiling fans , in the winter put more jumpers on , use your electric blanket ? |
Scoty

Joined: 23/05/2010 Posts: 846
Message Posted: 03/04/2011 00:23 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 30 in Discussion |
| Message 11 Do all that. Found ceiling fans are great, apart from when the temp really soars, and a/c is needed, more by the other half than me. I'd rather pay Kibtek, than suffer the earbashing if I even tried to stop the use of a/c in July and August. |
rowlo


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Message Posted: 03/04/2011 00:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 30 in Discussion |
| if you need aircon , use it , so no one can answer msg1 , everybodys needs are different ? |
Deniz1

Joined: 28/07/2009 Posts: 3829
Message Posted: 03/04/2011 07:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 30 in Discussion |
| I live here all the time my average winter bill is 60ytl a month. I dont have a pool. |
judyr

Joined: 07/07/2009 Posts: 956
Message Posted: 03/04/2011 11:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 30 in Discussion |
| You really need to take all of the bills into account to enable you to give a true comparison with the UK and then you will find it much cheaper. For example, when you bring Council Tax into the equation; my Council Tax Bill in the UK last year was £2100 whereas here it is 74tl this year! |
martinD41

Joined: 06/09/2010 Posts: 3001
Message Posted: 03/04/2011 11:14 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 30 in Discussion |
| judyr....It may well only be 74tl per year, but what do we actually get ?,,, You pay peanuts you get monkeys |
bondyboy

Joined: 15/05/2009 Posts: 67
Message Posted: 03/04/2011 11:28 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 30 in Discussion |
| message 14 74 tl is house tax then you have to pay 140 tl for bins and light mossy man my tax for year is 445 tl for year small house small price 0.30 tl for electic 12p is the same as uk it the pool that the killer |
judyr

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Message Posted: 03/04/2011 11:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 30 in Discussion |
| Message 18 - when do we get these other bills? Also what is "light mossy man my tax for year is 445 tl for year"? |
Tango1

Joined: 19/02/2011 Posts: 1151
Message Posted: 03/04/2011 11:36 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 30 in Discussion |
| We find that electricity is probably more expensive than any country we have visited. We have stopped using A/C for this very reason and rely on ceiling fans and stand alone fans. Mozzie's can't cope with the gale force winds they cause!! In any case, the colder the A/con is set at, the hotter it appears outside. In the coldest months our bill for the moth has been between 480tl - 500tl and we just learn to bite the bullet as I refuse to be cold, particularly in the evenings. We have cut the winter bills down this year by buying kerosene heaters, which don't smell if looked after and give out a lot of heat. Tango1 |
Jefferson

Joined: 17/05/2010 Posts: 360
Message Posted: 03/04/2011 11:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 30 in Discussion |
| We too use kerosine heaters and find them cheap to run and very effective. Our bills (including pool and running aircon overnight in the summer) have never been more than 200TL. |
MrsSnakes


Joined: 19/12/2008 Posts: 1100
Message Posted: 03/04/2011 12:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 30 in Discussion |
| Builders electric has increased this year to 90 kurus plus 10% KDV per unit. |
Jonesy299

Joined: 07/02/2009 Posts: 367
Message Posted: 03/04/2011 12:25 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 30 in Discussion |
| I have found that installing timers that switches off aircon after 30 mins / 1 hr / 2 hr saves a great deal over a period (eg when you pop the aircon on before going to bed - you don't fall asleep with it still running until morning.. it switches off after 1 or 2 hours .. or if you've nipped out and forgotten about switching off the aircon etc). |
halffull

Joined: 26/01/2009 Posts: 571
Message Posted: 03/04/2011 12:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 30 in Discussion |
| Message 18, whats this additional tax? paid my 110TL annual "council Tax" and never been billed or asked for any thing more?? Electric depends on so many factors, I can't believe how much some people say their bills are, max monthly bill this winter 289TL using aircon for heating, immersion and electric blanket. None in use now and aircon will be used again in July /August for the same reason as message 12!! I expect a marked drop in my electric bill this month and as was said add the £100 council tax a month payable in UK then it's a lot cheaper here. Plus we get our bins emptied twice a week, not once a fortnight like lots of UK places now, and the roads in our village are swept. |
briggus

Joined: 25/07/2007 Posts: 161
Message Posted: 03/04/2011 14:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 30 in Discussion |
| Message 24; Besides paying for, services: water, lighting, refuse collecting, mossie spraying there is an additional land tax to pay - bi - annually based on the size/area covered by your property. The authorities will not accept ignorance or not receiving a bill as an excuse for paying either. We missed the first year and were not made aware until our neighbours received a bill out of the blue and asked us what it was and if we had one. We ended up paying for two years and a small penalty @ the land registry offices in Gazimugasa. Responsibility has since been transferred and is now all dealt locally in Yeni Erenkoy by the council. |
negativenick

Joined: 10/11/2008 Posts: 6023
Message Posted: 03/04/2011 14:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 26 of 30 in Discussion |
| those heady days living in thailand - my electric / water bill was rarely above 20 quid a month.............. |
Woodspeckie

Joined: 25/01/2009 Posts: 2263
Message Posted: 03/04/2011 15:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 27 of 30 in Discussion |
| If you get winter fuel allowance in the UK then you will get it in Cyprus, that should help. |
halffull

Joined: 26/01/2009 Posts: 571
Message Posted: 05/04/2011 16:01 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 28 of 30 in Discussion |
| Message 25 I live in a community of Cypriot and Turkish families and none have mentioned paying a second charge just the land tax. Perhaps thats because you live in Magusa? |
nostradamus

Joined: 15/04/2008 Posts: 557
Message Posted: 05/04/2011 16:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 29 of 30 in Discussion |
| There seems to be a lot of confusion about 'council tax'. There are 2 kinds of charges here. One is property tax which is charged annually, although it can be paid in 2 installments, at the rate of 1TL per sq. metre of your house or 1.25TL per square metre if you have a pool. The other charges are made by the beldiye for water, street lighting, rubbish collection and insect spraying. The way these are collected varies from one belediye to another. In Lapta, the charges are added on to the monthly water bill but in Alsancak, for instance, they appear on the water bill as an annual charge, the payment of which can be spread over several months. You can identify these charges by the following: emlak vergisi: property tax. Diger Borc: insect spraying. Temizlik: rubbish collection. Aydinlatma: street lighting. Su Bedeli: water. All of these charges appear automatically except property tax - you should take your contract or kocan to the belediye to register this. |
halffull

Joined: 26/01/2009 Posts: 571
Message Posted: 05/04/2011 17:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 30 of 30 in Discussion |
| Message 29 Thank you so much nostradamus, BRILLIANT, you have probably put several peoples minds at rest! I live in çatalkoy and I've just checked my "water bill" and all the above charges are listed on it. I thought I was paying 23TL a month for water but it's only 7TL the rest covers all the other bits! That just proves ignorance is bliss! I was quite happy paying 23TL for my water every month and never bothered reading the bill!! |
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