Local spirits now being measured at the Waterfront!!!!!

Heartman


Joined: 15/01/2009
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Message Posted:
04/04/2011 12:21

Went to the karaoke on Friday night had a couple of beers and then asked for a short only to see the staff with 3 glasses behind the bar with black rings maked round them with a marker pen measuring the local spirits out. How many other bars have come unstuck doing this but at least they put an optic on the bottle so you know what was happening.

Marion


Joined: 06/03/2011
Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
04/04/2011 13:05

I heard there was an upset at Lambousa on Saturday where a barmaid was a bit clumsy and went over the level. Maybe it is part of 'times is 'ard" and of course if the prices are low then the owner cannot afford to be too generous. But it leaves a bit of a nasty taste doesn't it (and it is not even a beery one). Maybe others will copy the practice, but as a non boozer I can't help answer the point. Personally I would rather some other kind of measure was used other than a funereal coloured ring round my drinking glass.

Lambousa Gordon


Joined: 03/11/2007
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Message Posted:
04/04/2011 13:09

Re Msg 1



There are a number of perfectly good reasons for doing this; all to do with consistency.



By far the most important one has to do with driving. People often drive when they go out. They tend to estimate whether they are still under the drink-drive alcohol by the number of drinks they have had. If the measures vary wildly customers can have no good estimate of how much alcohol they have actually imbibed.



Secondly, for matters of taste the great majority of people tend to want their all their drinks to have approximately the same strength. The only way to ensure consistency is to properly measure them.



Thirdly, measuring prevents short-measures. Sure, you’re not going to get the occasional extra but equally you’re not going to get shorted either. In fact you get exactly what is offered and what you have paid for.



Of course you could have brought this up with me on Friday and I would have explained accordingly.

Lambousa Gordon


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Message Posted:
04/04/2011 13:10

Re Msg 2



I have absolutely no idea to what you are referring. Were you at Lambousa on Saturday? If so, could you enlighten me as I don't have a barmaid at Lambousa and I don't recall any issue whatsoever at the Waterfront.

Woodspeckie


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Message Posted:
04/04/2011 13:54

msg 3. Have I got it wrong but I have been under the impression that it was a NO drink and drive rule in NC.

Pugwash


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Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
04/04/2011 13:59

Not sure where you got that idea woodspeckie



"In North Cyprus, it is illegal to drive a car, motorbike, or even pedal bike under the influence of alcohol. You are considered driving drunk if:

• The breath/alcohol level equals or exceeds 39 microgram’s of alcohol per 100 milliliters of breath

• The blood/alcohol level equals or exceeds 90 milligrams of alcohol per 100 milliliters of blood (0,9 grams per liter) "



http://www.pacific-rentals.com/blog/labels/safety.html

Pugwash


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Message Posted:
04/04/2011 14:09

Meant to say in UK it is 80 mg of alcohol per 100 ml of blood,

Heartman


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Posts: 140

Message Posted:
04/04/2011 14:33

I have no idea about saturday and as for drink driving well we all know the rules.



point 1: If I prove i am not driving do I get a bigger measure?

point 2: After asking for more spirit in my glass the barmaid got into trouble for doing just that.

point 3: Imports I understand but local stuff how cheap has it got to be. Places give it away when you eat.

spanna


Joined: 12/01/2009
Posts: 544

Message Posted:
04/04/2011 14:43

To be fair, I think Gordon's explanation is more than adequate... If you want a bigger measure, pay for a bigger measure?! I was actually having a conversation with someone at the weekend who was saying she wished more places would provide proper measures as she's sozzled after 3 drinks and she'd rather pay for a few more drinks and still be able to hold a conversation!!



It is hard enough for businesses over here as it is, I don't think putting a business down over a legitimate practice of meausuring 'shorts' that is accepted world wide, is really fair.



Perhaps obtaining optics would help to avoid any ambiguity.



Happy Days!

stellasstar1



Joined: 02/07/2008
Posts: 1519

Message Posted:
04/04/2011 14:53

I agree wth Gordon. Some places were going completely over the top with the amount of spirits put in a drink. I don't drink, but I know a friend of mine actually asks not to have too much alchahol put with the mixes, as like spanna, she could only have a couple of drinks and would feel drunk. Yes, it is hard to keep a check on the amount you are drinking, if bar staff give too much.

islandgirl


Joined: 12/09/2009
Posts: 302

Message Posted:
04/04/2011 15:59

In addition to the above any professional run establishment needs to put controls on stock if for no other reason to stop pilfering, not that I am suggestion this is the case.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
04/04/2011 16:05

How much is a bottle of local spirit?

How many shots in a bottle ,say 1 litre ?

How much for a measure?

AnthonySmith


Joined: 14/05/2009
Posts: 455

Message Posted:
04/04/2011 16:11

I'm with Gordon. When I'm in Cyprus I'm sick of seeing some "favoured" customers get big measures, and others, get "short-changed". We pay the same price. One rule for all is not a problem.

Stonehousepub


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Posts: 755

Message Posted:
04/04/2011 16:26

msg 1



Drink at home in the future... What a pointless posting.

islandgirl


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Posts: 302

Message Posted:
04/04/2011 16:27

AS I think there should be a controlled measure and we all get the same. Only fair.

fiendishpaul


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Posts: 1720

Message Posted:
04/04/2011 17:09

I too, think that Gordon has hit it square on the head. This way you can be certain that you are not receiving a short measure and are getting what you paid for.



Simples !!!!



Paul

Marion


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Message Posted:
05/04/2011 00:27

Sorry Gordon. Went back to source and now understand it was at the Waterfront, not \Lambousa. At least, that is the update. Might of course be referring to the same thing.



I agree with you entirely about proper measure, but I reiterate i do not like a black mark on the glass. I know in U.k specially clibrated glasses are available, but aren't there any proper measures which can be used. I am a bit ignorant about booze. I admit in my youth to having a half pint with the lads in the orchestra in |london, but that was accuratley measured. Are not proper spirit measure devices available here.



as to drinking and driving, I do feel people must take responsibility for themselves. they know if they have to drive home, and they should realise their own limits. It is unfair to expect the barman (or woman) to take responsibility. At least if you buy bottled drinks you know exactly the amout for which you are pahying, and shorts should be a specific measure - everywhere. Mind you, I d

Marion


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Message Posted:
05/04/2011 00:29

sorry ---- cont.... Mind you, I don't like getting half a cup of coffeebecauswe I drink black, but I ask for water to be added. Can't do that with beer! The concept of proper measure runs through the torah, Bible and I suspect Koran so come on, let everyone do it and then no cheating, no diddling, no under and no over measures and proper profits to bar owners.

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
05/04/2011 06:13

does anyone wonder why the "locals" won't touch the local spirits with a barge pole, but us brits get it down our necks like its going out of fashion ?



maybe they know something we don't ??

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
05/04/2011 07:06

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