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No1Doyen
Joined: 04/07/2008 Posts: 16617
Message Posted: 07/10/2008 13:49 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 32 in Discussion |
| Up to 200,000 British Account holders. They must be worried. |
cyprusishome
Joined: 31/03/2007 Posts: 2381
Message Posted: 07/10/2008 13:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 32 in Discussion |
| Good reason, the Iclandic finance sector is in meltdown. A figure of 30% loss this week was mentioned earlier. The have done the right thing by freezing assets to prevent disaster and give the government there some breathing space to try to sort out. |
Coachie
Joined: 29/07/2008 Posts: 2135
Message Posted: 07/10/2008 14:11 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 32 in Discussion |
| hi all ..on tv this morning Russia has loaned the Icelandic goverment 4billion euros to help them out. Now we see why XL couldnt get the financing it needed the country was broke as well as the banks. there is even talk about whether the Icelandic currency can be tradeble quantity... |
Laptalocal
Joined: 28/02/2008 Posts: 99
Message Posted: 07/10/2008 16:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 32 in Discussion |
| As a customer of Icesave I am a bit concerned to say the least! There is limited info available but from what I can gather, as Landsbanki are part of the FSA Passport Exemption scheme, foreign investors are only offered compensation up to 20,000 Euros which has to be applied for and paid by the Icelandic government and additional amounts over this, then have to be recovered from the FSCS (UK scheme). Apparently under EU law, compensation has to be paid within 3 months, but some are expressing concern as to whether the Icelandic Government can even make these payments... |
No1Doyen
Joined: 04/07/2008 Posts: 16617
Message Posted: 07/10/2008 16:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 32 in Discussion |
| Laptalocal, give them a call on the 'phone. You might get a frosty reception however! |
PtePike
Joined: 20/05/2008 Posts: 2334
Message Posted: 07/10/2008 16:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 32 in Discussion |
| Does this affect customers of Iceland? |
Laptalocal
Joined: 28/02/2008 Posts: 99
Message Posted: 07/10/2008 16:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 32 in Discussion |
| msg. 6 Ha! Yes, it in theory affects the Icelandic Nationals, but domestic customers are covered and their banks etc are operating in Iceland as normal today. It is only the foreign branches that appear to have been suspended at the moment. The website is not allowing any withdrawls or deposits and although they have branches in foreign countries (UK, NL etc), due to the Passport Exemption, foreign investors are not quite so well covered. It will be interesting to see what transpires! The government has suspended trading of 3 banks and the list of companies that these banks invest in, is quite surprising (Debenhams, West Ham FC and even Gordon Ramsay)..! |
greenman
Joined: 16/02/2008 Posts: 526
Message Posted: 07/10/2008 17:33 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 32 in Discussion |
| Protection for UK investors in IceSave will be through the Financial Services Compensation Scheme (FSCS) The latest details can be found here: http://www.fscs.org.uk/consumer/ The FSCS have indicated that they will deal with the claims rather than having to claim from Iceland's scheme and then top up claim through the FSCS. New FSCS guarantee now at £50,000 |
Lemtich
Joined: 15/02/2007 Posts: 1487
Message Posted: 07/10/2008 17:53 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 32 in Discussion |
| Message 3 The Icelandic government is "freezing assets". Who would have believed it! Lem |
come_on_aylin
Joined: 14/06/2008 Posts: 908
Message Posted: 07/10/2008 18:03 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 32 in Discussion |
| Don't know PtePike but buying up lots of pies just in case..... |
DutchCrusader
Joined: 19/05/2008 Posts: 11281
Message Posted: 07/10/2008 18:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 32 in Discussion |
| On the 5 o'clock news, Dutch radio: "Dutch customers (± 25.000) of the Icelandic Internet bank Icesave (5.25% interest) could still withdraw their money in full today - with they did en masse." |
Nastynipper
Joined: 08/06/2008 Posts: 171
Message Posted: 07/10/2008 18:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 32 in Discussion |
| yet again RASICAM AGAINT BRITS |
Coachie
Joined: 29/07/2008 Posts: 2135
Message Posted: 07/10/2008 18:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 32 in Discussion |
| hi all .. last thing I saw on Bloomberg was the statement from there parent bank ,was that investors would have to seek compensation as the bank was virtually insolvent... |
DutchCrusader
Joined: 19/05/2008 Posts: 11281
Message Posted: 07/10/2008 19:19 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 32 in Discussion |
| Sorry, stupid typo: On the 5 o'clock news, Dutch radio: "Dutch customers (± 25.000) of the Icelandic Internet bank Icesave (5.25% interest) could still withdraw their money in full today - with they did en masse." - which they did en masse. |
Groucho
Joined: 26/04/2008 Posts: 7993
Message Posted: 07/10/2008 19:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 32 in Discussion |
| Dutch who is stupid typo? Is he a character from your homeland's literature... only we see a lot of him here and in another place.... not from you mind... |
wynyardman
Joined: 15/12/2007 Posts: 4580
Message Posted: 07/10/2008 20:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 32 in Discussion |
| Doyen1 and Lemtech, Love your opinions. Too sharp for me, left me out in the cold! wyn |
ebbern5
Joined: 03/06/2008 Posts: 79
Message Posted: 07/10/2008 20:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 32 in Discussion |
| I just had a cheque returned by the bank "insufficient funds" I dont know if this refers to my funds or the banks. lou |
andre 514
Joined: 31/03/2008 Posts: 1163
Message Posted: 08/10/2008 00:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 32 in Discussion |
| how did a tiny country with the population of twenty english villages become a multibillion player? their retail acquisitions in uk and the mountains of finance capital, much of it is from foreign banks and individuals who saw iceland as a refuge banker, as a sort of straightlaced offshore auntie yes there are lots of brits with savings there... but I wonder why russia is suddenly so keen to prop up these banks with 4 billion euros? can it be their investors are also in up to their necks? you better stop thinking of russia as old ladies queing in the snow for bread, times are changing: drive a car? use natural gas? geddit? andre |
Lemtich
Joined: 15/02/2007 Posts: 1487
Message Posted: 08/10/2008 00:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 32 in Discussion |
| Erh........no. Lem |
wynyardman
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Message Posted: 08/10/2008 00:25 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 32 in Discussion |
| Littlenige, Has the Pope been advised that no withdrawls are allowed. Saints alive! wyn |
wynyardman
Joined: 15/12/2007 Posts: 4580
Message Posted: 08/10/2008 00:27 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 32 in Discussion |
| Andre, Could they have offshore deposits? I don't mean bank deposits! wyn |
andre 514
Joined: 31/03/2008 Posts: 1163
Message Posted: 08/10/2008 00:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 32 in Discussion |
| lemtich post 20: russia is the worlds largest producer and exporter of oil and gas andre |
Coachie
Joined: 29/07/2008 Posts: 2135
Message Posted: 08/10/2008 21:13 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 32 in Discussion |
| hi all ..The news today stating all100% of savings in Icelandic and UK banks will beguaranteed by government. Andre514..Russia has had to bail out one of its big banks,which shouldnt be much of aproblem for them considering the vast wealth they now have.... |
greenman
Joined: 16/02/2008 Posts: 526
Message Posted: 08/10/2008 22:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 32 in Discussion |
| For those of you with savings in Icesave, here is the latest information on the FSA site: "Is my money with Icesave safe? Yes. The Chancellor of the Exchequer has put in place arrangements to ensure that no retail depositor will lose any money as a result of the closure of Icesave. Will I get all of it back or just the first £50,000? No retail depositor will lose any money as a result of the closure of Icesave. When will I get it back? As quickly as possible. HM Treasury, the FSA and FSCS are working closely together on the practical arrangements for paying back customers and the FSCS website will be updated with further information on Friday." http://www.moneymadeclear.fsa.gov.uk/news/firm/icesave.html |
fire starter
Joined: 19/06/2008 Posts: 3401
Message Posted: 09/10/2008 11:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 26 of 32 in Discussion |
| we looked at investing with this bank a few years ago because they were offering very good interest. the reason we didn't was because they were only covering the first 20k euros. anyone who has money in jersey and gurnsey is also not covered by the comp scheme and needs to move their money asap! |
Coachie
Joined: 29/07/2008 Posts: 2135
Message Posted: 09/10/2008 15:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 27 of 32 in Discussion |
| hi all ..I see the owner of West Ham Utd. has lost 260Million pounds with the collapse ot the Icelandic bank.He turned down 3 offers to buy the club only 3 days before the collapse,bet he wished had taken up the offer... |
No1Doyen
Joined: 04/07/2008 Posts: 16617
Message Posted: 09/10/2008 16:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 28 of 32 in Discussion |
| I heard that one offer was from Gary Glitter,1 was from the old CEO of Lehman Brothers and the other one was from the Millwall supporters club! |
Coachie
Joined: 29/07/2008 Posts: 2135
Message Posted: 09/10/2008 18:27 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 29 of 32 in Discussion |
| No1 Doyen.. I would sooner see it "nationalised" by Brown&Co ..... |
fire starter
Joined: 19/06/2008 Posts: 3401
Message Posted: 10/10/2008 12:23 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 30 of 32 in Discussion |
| but can brown and co add up? |
ataturk
Joined: 09/09/2008 Posts: 712
Message Posted: 10/10/2008 20:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 31 of 32 in Discussion |
| will this affect the price of frozen peas cos tempos seems to be selling lots of their products |
PtePike
Joined: 20/05/2008 Posts: 2334
Message Posted: 11/10/2008 22:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 32 of 32 in Discussion |
| Banking must be like sex. Apparently as soon as you withdraw you start to lose interest. |
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