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Jeannie


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06/04/2011 01:48

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No, I am not trying to stir up trouble, but I have just seen that Elko has closed a thread. I personally have no objection, but what I would like to say is that he has closed it, given the reason (contravened rule 4) and stated that the originator of the thread will now have a two week ban.



I think this is a much better way to go on here, particularly with what's been happening of late. This way, it is made clear as to why the thread has been closed (reason given) and the "punishment" (for want of a better word) meted out. I know it will not stop people disagreeing with reasons, etc. but at least it makes things a bit clearer.



Just my opinion, but I think it's a better, fairer way of doing things.



philbailey


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06/04/2011 01:58

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it would help

esp when 10 threads are closed in a day



Jeannie


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philbailey - yes, I think it would help, too. There have been an inordinate amount of threads closed today; admittedly, some have been started purely to stir things up, so I don't suppose anyone would argue with the fact that those in particular were closed. However, I do think that if a reason is given, etc. it may help matters. Otherwise, I can see (yet again) 44 going into meltdown, as it very nearly did a while ago. It has come very close over the years, on and off, but has managed to survive and still remains very popular. It would be a crying shame if it did, eventually, become a "victim of its own success" after a good few years of being, in the main, an informative, amusing and (sometimes) controversial forum.



Lilli



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06/04/2011 07:57

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Hi Jeannie, I totally agree with you. It would be such a shame to loose it . At least now we can see who has been banned and not just guess. I wonder how many banns you get when you use several Ids x



cooper


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06/04/2011 08:44

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I couldn't agree more J, all to often some threads are allowed to continue with some forum admins actually taking part in them, then another forum admin will then just post that the thread is closed because it was serving no purpose whilst others are closed down immediately with no particular reason given.



We need transparency and in addition to the forum rules we need a set of Forum Admin rules and if they are not followed then they will receive a ban which will be handed down by me so beware )



elko2



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06/04/2011 08:47

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Coopoer,

Just like that!

ismet



dougskud



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06/04/2011 11:31

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Hi all good morning



As someone who looks at and gains much useful information from Cyprus 44 it is always disappointing to read so much childish nonsense being spouted as in this case.



I have written before and I repeat my suggestion " transparency is the key to cleaning up this and other similar problems".



Surely the simple answer is to have two types of membership



1. A full member who can post as well as read, "membership requirement" to declare all relevant identity information this info. being available to all.



2. A read only member who chooses to hide their identity.



I am confident this simple adjustment would eliminate 99% of the problem posts and make life a lot easier for the site administrators.



regards



Doug



joandjelly


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06/04/2011 11:44

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It's a good idea Doug but how would you check that the "relevant identity information" given was real?



dougskud



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06/04/2011 11:50

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Hi joandjelly



Unfortunately I am not qulafied to answer this point, but I'm certain there are hundreds of IT literate people who could provide simple solutions

regards

Doug



MsGarnet


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Message Posted:
06/04/2011 11:51

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Msg 7. Not a well thought out response - there are five million reasons why people do NOT give their full identity on a forum on the net - most especially women, single or otherwise, plus how would you know that the identity information is true? To claim that 99% of 'trouble makers' are the ones that hide their personal identity is ludicrous.



lovingcyprus


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Message Posted:
06/04/2011 12:01

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I agree with message 10



dougskud



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06/04/2011 12:10

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Hi all re messages 10&11



Interesting to note you both currently choose to shelter behind the cloak of anonymity



regards

Doug



Jeannie


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06/04/2011 12:43

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Message 12 - Doug, perhaps some have good reason for "hiding behind the cloak of anonymity" as you put it. To say that those who choose not to reveal everything about their personal status are troublemakers is a bit of a sweeping statement, I think.



Washerman


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06/04/2011 13:28

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Dougskud is right. There's information about what could be done here: http://www.ticproblemsolver.com/internet_hate_campaign/

MsGarnet - we're talking about identity verification not publication



cooper


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Message Posted:
06/04/2011 14:08

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This thread is now closed because it serves no purpose and the person who started the thread will receive a six month ban and should they dare to bring the board into disrepute again they be dealt a public flogging on Girne front



MsGarnet


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Message Posted:
06/04/2011 16:14

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cooper - the lady lives in England! and like us, chooses to have control over who buys or sells or violates or abuses or scams or passes on viruses - et cetera...........to her e.mail address. Washerman, to join this forum one has to provide an e.mail address. The owner/administrators have our e.mail addresses provided on trust, as most of us don't know them or know whether they keep the information on an unincripted disc on the back seat of a car (say) that could be stolen and our e.mail addresses then used by whomever for whatever purpose. Our own Government and various agencies have 'lost' discs with the most sensitive information on them - never to be found again. We are adults! and we all know whatever 'failsafe' options are put in place, there will always be someone so knowledgeable about computers, they will always find a way around any obstacle put in their way....



dougskud



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06/04/2011 16:26

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Hi MsGarnet re message 16



I really enjoyed reading this, it brought a smile to my face and the really funny thing is you probably believe it





regards

Doug



negativenick


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Message Posted:
06/04/2011 16:29

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about time this one was closed -getting as boring as a skandinavian credit card evening round the Mongers............



MsGarnet


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06/04/2011 17:16

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Msg 17. How naieve you are - what I know about computers you could put on the back of a postage stamp, yet clearly I know more than you. If I had a mind, the written and pictorial information you have provided on only this forum (who knows where else you have left a trail) tells me you are clearly solvent, that you live in Essex and Ozankoy - simple matter with the picture and details YOU provided, to find out when you are in one place and look through the dustbins (to get personal information) or burgle, the other property. I could get paperwork forged with your picture and details and cause horrendous havoc in your life. Are you not also aware that companies pay to buy e.mail addresses? unsolicited mail that looks initially to be legitimate can give your computer devastating viruses, I could go on and on.........I would suggest you speak to someone who knows about computers and ask them what to do and not do, to keep you and yours as safe as you can, which will never be 100%...



denizen



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Message Posted:
06/04/2011 17:33

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msg 19 well said MsG



spider


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Message Posted:
06/04/2011 17:59

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Message 19 MsG...OMG thats enough to frighten a newcomer like me ! Mr Spider is shouting OFF with my hands as I type







Spider,X



yenibob


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Message Posted:
06/04/2011 18:02

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Mrs Spider, are you really as silly as you sound? Only asking like.



spider


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06/04/2011 18:07

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yenibob 4ft 11inch of dynamite and a laugh, life is far too short for anything else I take it we have never met as all fall in love with me xx







Spider,X



spider


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Message Posted:
06/04/2011 18:13

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And a little something that I would get other to understand..



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYzlVDlE72w





Spider,X



yenibob


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Message Posted:
06/04/2011 18:15

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I will take that as a yes. You really are not very bright. Nonetheless you would probably make a lovely bookend.



philbailey


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06/04/2011 18:17

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You can buy e-mail listings here



http://www.americaint.com/gaw/targeted-email-lists/targeted-email-lists.html



it goes on in all countries



spider


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Message Posted:
06/04/2011 18:19

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And you maybe a great toilet brush Please keep on topic..



Jeannie post 1 very well said..





Spider,X



lovingcyprus


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Message Posted:
06/04/2011 18:20

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dougskud you are very very naieve



philbailey


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Message Posted:
06/04/2011 18:21

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This list advertised covers N/Cyprus



http://www.online-publishing-services.com/data-by-country/cyprus-mailing-email-list-database-address/



So well said msg 19



yenibob


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06/04/2011 18:23

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"Jeannie post 1 very well said.. "



So Spider, are you ready to challenge the moderators?



spider


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06/04/2011 18:26

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?????????????????





For what ? They have eyes.





Spider,X



yenibob


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Message Posted:
06/04/2011 18:29

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Men in white coats? or Police from Doncaster?....Your choice!



philbailey


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06/04/2011 21:25

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Where did my thread go ?

on closed threads ?



MsGarnet


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Message Posted:
07/04/2011 03:38

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In case you have an M&S card dougskud - suggest you change your e.mail address, as M&S just put this notice out tonight - 6th April 2011 "We have been informed by Epsilon, a company we use to send e-mails to our customers, that some M&S customer e-mail addresses have been accessed without authorisation," the retailer said........and of course, those lists are sold/passed on - and on - and on - and........



Washerman


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Message Posted:
07/04/2011 04:19

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ID verification by the method proposed on the linked page only requires you to provide your email address - the same as you do now but, it has to be an email address that is used on a Paypal account.



Your correct ID has been verified by Paypal and ownership of the account is verified when a small credit is made to your account by Cy44 which you must confirm back to Cy44.



Again, Cy44 only gets your email address - nothing else !



The majority of Members of Cy44 use the board as a source of information. A minority use it as a source of entertainment. I suggest that it is the latter who would rather not be properly identified and it is they that do not like the idea.



Data protection is another topic for another day. I repeat.... Dougskud is correct in what he says.



MsGarnet


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Message Posted:
07/04/2011 15:57

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Washerman - this is a board mainly about conditions inTRNC and has contributors from those that live on the Island as well as those living elsewhere. We are all adults, and for you to say it is the ones who wish to keep themselves safe on-line as well as literally by revealing as little as possible about themselves are the ones that post mindlessly and polemically is disgraceful, yet the ones who are so easily pleased and amused when feeling intimidated that another person states valid reasons why they don't think along the same lines, are the reasonable ones, is unfair. I suggest you look at the posts that are boring, the poster clearly is a walter mitty character, the post is non-sensical and relates to nothing and no-one, the poster is intent on causing trouble - so on and so forth - and check how many give their real name and details and how many don't. Not least, did you check that the owner/administrators of this forum are happy to carry out your suggestion?



philbailey


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07/04/2011 16:03

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Msg 36 I suggest the more people that post

the more the forum can charge to advertisers

so I guess repeat posters help the forum



denizen



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Message Posted:
07/04/2011 16:22

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msg 37, even the expired members are still counted in the total.



Washerman


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07/04/2011 17:07

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MsGarnet......



"Washerman - this is a board mainly about conditions in TRNC and has contributors from those that live on the Island as well as those living elsewhere." - stating the obvious, but agreed.



"We are all adults, and for you to say it is the ones who wish to keep themselves safe on-line as well as literally by revealing as little as possible about themselves are the ones that post mindlessly and polemically is disgraceful," - wrong, I didn't say any of this !



"yet the ones who are so easily pleased and amused when feeling intimidated that another person states valid reasons why they don't think along the same lines, are the reasonable ones, is unfair." - wrong, I didn't say any of this either !



"I suggest you look at the posts that are boring, the poster clearly is a walter mitty character, the post is non-sensical and relates to nothing and no-one, the poster is intent on causing trouble" - I really don't understand. Is this a response to something I've posted ?



Washerman


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07/04/2011 17:10

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"Not least, did you check that the owner/administrators of this forum are happy to carry out your suggestion?"



I have made a suggestion, I have no idea what the admin/owner thinks



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