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malsancak

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 08:30 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 93 in Discussion |
| Because of Pauline Read's temporary Cyprus44 ban there will be a news blackout about Kulaksiz 5 on Cyprus44 during the week in which Akfinans Bank is expected to evict ex-pat pensioners from their homes. |
AlsancakJack


Joined: 14/08/2008 Posts: 5762
Message Posted: 08/04/2011 08:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 93 in Discussion |
| Mal Yet again it really is quite simple. Pauline needs to provide a valid e-mail address on her profile and then she can post again. |
kaiserphil

Joined: 14/12/2008 Posts: 1096
Message Posted: 08/04/2011 08:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 93 in Discussion |
| What is your problem AJ? Hasn't she got enough problems for you? Leave her alone, why can't you? You are one nasty piece of work. |
malsancak

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 08:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 93 in Discussion |
| I understand, but she is extremely technologically challenged and under a great deal of stress after events of last night. An act of kindness would be to return her ability to post, seeing as the email address has obviously functioned up until now. When I have time I'll try to sort the problem out. Anyway, this thread is about how important it is to Pauline to have a means of spreading news, and preventing rumours, about activities at Kulaksiz 5 which may be happening NOW even as I write. It is not about the ban, it's about the impact of this ban. Please don't remove the thread, that would possibly be taken as provocative in some eyes - not mine of course. |
malsancak

Joined: 23/08/2009 Posts: 2874
Message Posted: 08/04/2011 08:48 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 93 in Discussion |
| kaiserphil, I understand your feelings but if the insults could be toned down we might avoid this discussion about the IMPACT of the ban being closed down. I believe you are right that the ban has added pressure on Pauline but the sending of the password reminder has obviously produced an error with Pauline's email address and has to be attended to and cannot be blamed on AJ. I'm just asking for a temporary lifting of the ban while the matter gets sorted. |
kaiserphil

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 08:50 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 93 in Discussion |
| Mal, it is the attitude that bothers me. |
GinaC

Joined: 26/11/2010 Posts: 372
Message Posted: 08/04/2011 08:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 93 in Discussion |
| I'm all for proactive moderation but in this instance it smacks of even Cyprus 44 being gagged. Come on AJ, revoke your decision to ban Pauline, no one will think any worse of you and I for one would respect someone for admitting an error of judgement and putting that right. |
matula

Joined: 07/07/2008 Posts: 647
Message Posted: 08/04/2011 08:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 93 in Discussion |
| Is AJ God? (will not be surprised if the Red pen is not used here!) |
malsancak

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 08:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 93 in Discussion |
| AJ I've emailed you off-board Pauline's working email, used daily to send articles to NCFP. Could you now reinstate Pauline please? |
stellasstar1


Joined: 02/07/2008 Posts: 1519
Message Posted: 08/04/2011 09:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 93 in Discussion |
| I seem to have missed something else happening recently. Are they all about to be ACTUALLY evicted NOW? |
malsancak

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 09:14 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 93 in Discussion |
| Pauline is currently feeling that someone, knowing an authentication process was operating, has hacked her profile and changed the email address to stop her posting. The truth may more likely be a typo either on Pauline's part or someone with moderator status. It seems strange however that an email used for authentication, and used daily for me to communicate with her, should return an error. |
malsancak

Joined: 23/08/2009 Posts: 2874
Message Posted: 08/04/2011 09:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 93 in Discussion |
| stellasstar1, Pauline will update on C44 when she is allowed to otherwise try North Cyprus Free Press on http://www.northcyprusfreepress.com Beware of rumour-mongering from obscure members on C44 |
TRNCvictim

Joined: 17/08/2010 Posts: 1417
Message Posted: 08/04/2011 09:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 93 in Discussion |
| AJ I can't believe you have done this! Pauline has more than enough on her plate, she and the victims at K5 need every bit of media coverage they can get! how cruel! |
StGeorgeI

Joined: 27/08/2009 Posts: 973
Message Posted: 08/04/2011 10:16 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 93 in Discussion |
| Malsancak - If she is 'technologically challenged', and if you are in contact with her, it will take you personally 5 minutes to set up a Yahoo/gmail acount in her name - set up a new C44 account - and then confirm the email verification. Then just send her the new C44 log-in details.... simple! If i knew her and wanted to help by getting her back on here, that's what i would do. Good luck, G |
Geoff

Joined: 25/06/2008 Posts: 1370
Message Posted: 08/04/2011 10:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 93 in Discussion |
| How does Pauline survive without a valid email address? As I understand the rules it doesn't have to be a Cyprus email address. We all have an email address, what is her problem getting one? AJ is correct, we all know the rules when we sign up to Cyprus44. Simples! Whingers should ifind a more useful cause to lobby for. Geoff Famagusta City. |
AnthonySmith

Joined: 14/05/2009 Posts: 455
Message Posted: 08/04/2011 10:28 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 93 in Discussion |
| I'm with Geoff. It's a temporary ban, for goodness sake. All Pauline needs to do is create and supply an email address. Gmail is simple to use. This could be sorted without claims of gagging, or more nastiness directed at Alsancak Jack. So many people do not want one rule for one, and another for the others - as in the case of Akfinans Bank - unless it suits them. Pauline obviously has access to the internet, an email address should not be a problem. |
gwhiz

Joined: 07/04/2011 Posts: 26
Message Posted: 08/04/2011 10:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 93 in Discussion |
| Pauline has a valid email address she uses it every day she used it to activate her account on here ! there seems to be a problem with 1 email AJ sent . If it was a typo and it went to the wrong address fair dinkum however there seems to be gremlins at work in the 44 system. I am sure A J being the fare minded mod he is will sort it out in two shakes of a lambs tail. |
malsancak

Joined: 23/08/2009 Posts: 2874
Message Posted: 08/04/2011 11:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 93 in Discussion |
| very strange, AJ says in an email to me that "I have no time for conspiracy theories and this was not done to 'gag' Pauline. My prime motive for e-mailing Pauline was to explain to her." How on earth do you email someone on an address that doesn't work!!!! Hopefully this answers all the posts about my setting up an new email address for Pauline. Meanwhile, despite having a working email address as proved by AJ's use of it, Pauline is still banned!!! Why is she still banned? |
AnthonySmith

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 11:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 93 in Discussion |
| Why is she still banned? Perhaps, because the mods need proof it is a valid email, not just opinions. |
malsancak

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 11:16 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 93 in Discussion |
| AS, AJ emailed her without the message "bouncing" which was stated as the reason for banning her in the first place. To put it quite bluntly PAULINE'S EMAIL ADDRESS IS VALID. This is not an opinion it has been indirectly stated in an email I've received from AJ, see msg 18. Indirectly stated because AJ says he's emailed her and does not refer to any bouncing back of the message he sent. Am I the only person who understands this? |
AnthonySmith

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 11:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 93 in Discussion |
| There are none so blind as those who don't want to see... |
malsancak

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 11:19 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 93 in Discussion |
| he who laughs last is slow to get the joke? |
malsancak

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 11:20 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 93 in Discussion |
| people who write cryptic comments... |
AlsancakJack


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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 11:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 93 in Discussion |
| Mal I really do not know what you are trying to achieve with your postings. These are the facts: Due to some 'rumour' postings I wanted to contact Pauline via e-mail. I accessed her profile and copied her e-mail address into my Gmail address book. I composed the e-mail and I sent it to Pauline's (profile) e-mail address only to get a message from gmail saying that the e-mail address was invalid. I then checked the address that I had against the one that is in Pauline's profile. Exactly the same. Mal you have a copy of that rejection e-mail sitting in your inbox. I also have asked Pauline to contact me to sort the problem out but it has not happened. All that has happened is that a third party has decided to take up cudgels on Pauline's behalf and is trying to muddy the waters somewhat. I will say again It really is quite simple, Every member of this board is required to have a valid e-mail address. If a member cannot be contacted on their profile e-mail address (cont) |
AlsancakJack


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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 11:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 93 in Discussion |
| (cont) then the situation needs to be resolved. I am not sure who I am trying to sort the situation out with but it certainly is not Pauline which is disappointing. |
AnthonySmith

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 11:48 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 26 of 93 in Discussion |
| I think, Alsancak Jack, that Pauline is with the K5 group at Lefkosa court this morning, but Malsancak, again, can't resist stirring. I am sure Pauline will try to rectify things on her return. |
malsancak

Joined: 23/08/2009 Posts: 2874
Message Posted: 08/04/2011 12:00 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 27 of 93 in Discussion |
| only trying to help... I'll leave it to you and Pauline AJ, that'll get thing sorted - sorry to embarrass you by pointing out that you can't email someone with an email address that apparently doesn't work so Pauline will in theory never be able to communicate with you because she obviously never got your email... |
elko2


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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 12:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 28 of 93 in Discussion |
| Pauline's e.mail address on her profile is given as ********@tyahoo.co.uk but there should be no "t" before "yahoo". Pauline should access her profile and edit it accordingly. The moderators have no access to it. ismet |
philbailey

Joined: 17/01/2011 Posts: 3534
Message Posted: 08/04/2011 12:03 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 29 of 93 in Discussion |
| Well spoted elko2 problem solved can a mod not change it ? |
malsancak

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 12:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 30 of 93 in Discussion |
| yes, ismet, I've just seen that too! She attending court at the moment, some kind Moderator couldn't sort it out for her, or is that too much to ask? |
AnthonySmith

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 12:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 31 of 93 in Discussion |
| Ismet said: Pauline's e.mail address on her profile is given as ********@tyahoo.co.uk but there should be no "t" before "yahoo". Pauline should access her profile and edit it accordingly. THE MODERATORS HAVE NO ACCESS TO IT. ismet I think that is a clue. |
gwhiz

Joined: 07/04/2011 Posts: 26
Message Posted: 08/04/2011 12:08 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 32 of 93 in Discussion |
| most strange elko Sir how would pauline have been able to respond to the activation email in this casy as it would have gone to ********@tyahoo.co.uk THE INVALID email address and not to ********@yahoo.co.uk her actual one . without responding to the activation email she would not have been able to post. there may well be gremlins in the system kind sir. |
malsancak

Joined: 23/08/2009 Posts: 2874
Message Posted: 08/04/2011 12:11 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 33 of 93 in Discussion |
| just so I can pass on this information to Pauline, Ismet, will Pauline be able to edit her profile, as AS is suggesting, if she is banned? I wish AJ had picked up this problem as quickly as you Ismet. |
malsancak

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 12:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 34 of 93 in Discussion |
| please do not close this thread until Pauline is able to post, just in case... |
AlsancakJack


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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 12:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 35 of 93 in Discussion |
| Mal It is not my job to decide whether an e-mail address is correctly presented in a members profile. It is up to the member to make sure that their contact details are valid. |
Geoff

Joined: 25/06/2008 Posts: 1370
Message Posted: 08/04/2011 12:24 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 36 of 93 in Discussion |
| Exactly correct AJ!!!! Storm in a teacup. You've done nothing wrong or out of order. And well done Elko2 Geoff Famagusta City. |
malsancak

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 13:47 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 37 of 93 in Discussion |
| AJ, I wasn't expecting you to help Geoff, what's with the weather reports? |
malsancak

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 13:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 38 of 93 in Discussion |
| anyway, could some helpful Moderator confirm whether a banned member can edit their email address as I've been told that they can't? |
AnthonySmith

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 13:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 39 of 93 in Discussion |
| Malsancak, firstly I didn't suggest anything, merely read what Ismet had written. If you are so bothered, why don't you email him off board rather than continue trying to snipe at people? Or any of the other mods? Those who shout loudly... |
malsancak

Joined: 23/08/2009 Posts: 2874
Message Posted: 08/04/2011 14:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 40 of 93 in Discussion |
| Ant, I respect your opinion but I do not agree with it and I haven't heard the word snipe used for a long time, I'll try and work that into my vocabulary this week. Anyway, the purpose of this thread is to discuss the impact of banning Pauline, one of which could be that she has been placed in a Catch 22 situation if she cannot change her email address and AJ can't/won't change it, don't you think? It's possibly a point of information that many readers would find interesting and best kept public in the interest of fairness especially as Pauline feels that she may have been targeted for her fearless stance against injustice and manipulation by people in power. I am not saying that some hacker has placed an obviously erroneous letter in Pauline's profile, but somehow it got placed there... spooky. I love being able to discuss these issues freely and without interference, that's what people throughout the Middle East are currently laying down their lives for. |
AnthonySmith

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 14:13 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 41 of 93 in Discussion |
| Until you know the facts, who are you helping? I'll be glad to welcome Pauline back and wish the K5 people well, but I don't know if this is helping. Both Alsancak Jack and Elko (Ismet) have said they can't change profiles. It has to be Pauline. When she comes back she either changes it or supplies a new email. She can have a new profile, I'm sure, PollyMarples2? |
gwhiz

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 14:13 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 42 of 93 in Discussion |
| if the email adress is invalid how did pauline activate her account ?? anyone ? |
AnthonySmith

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 14:21 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 43 of 93 in Discussion |
| By the members list it looks like Pauline is back anyway. |
shrimp

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 14:27 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 44 of 93 in Discussion |
| Maybe a few apoologies are needed, those who jump to conclusions have unhappy landings........ |
Brinsley

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 14:30 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 45 of 93 in Discussion |
| Msg 43 Banned members can log in but can't post, but whether they can change their profile details whilst banned, I have no idea. Seems like a simple typo error to me or is there a greater dark hidden agenda?! Richard |
malsancak

Joined: 23/08/2009 Posts: 2874
Message Posted: 08/04/2011 14:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 46 of 93 in Discussion |
| no, we were just having a bit of banter... I enjoyed it, hope you did too. Remember that you should never criticise a person before you have walked a mile in their shoes. That way you'll not only have their shoes but you'll be a mile away from them. |
Zoots

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 14:48 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 47 of 93 in Discussion |
| Shrimp msg 44, Who do you suggest should apologise? |
malsancak

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 14:49 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 48 of 93 in Discussion |
| Anyway, Ismet is helping Pauline as I write. Unfortunately, every time she tries to edit her profile "it just goes back to the message index." |
Brinsley

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 15:15 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 50 of 93 in Discussion |
| Ismet Correct, I've just tried to play around with my details but can't change anything. All very strange! Richard |
malsancak

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 15:19 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 51 of 93 in Discussion |
| Elko, well done! You seem to have found a shadow in the grassy knoll (Kennedy conspiracy theory) |
malsancak

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 15:20 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 52 of 93 in Discussion |
| Elko, well done! You seem to have found a shadow in the grassy knoll (Kennedy conspiracy theory) Do the Gremlins own a bank? |
AlsancakJack


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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 15:24 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 53 of 93 in Discussion |
| Ismet I feel as though I have been knocking my head against a brick wall with this one. And certain parties do not make it any easier. Anyway I have made two suggestions about getting it sorted but I am getting confused about who I am communicating with. I appear to have no direct communication with the member concerned but I am getting e-mails via a third party. My e-mail address is there for all to see so there should be no reason why the member concerned should not e-mail me direct. Could have been sorted out ages ago if certain people had not wanted to stir things up. Rant over. |
AnthonySmith

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 15:26 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 54 of 93 in Discussion |
| Alsancak Jack Don't worry, be happy. You can please some of the people.... |
malsancak

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 15:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 55 of 93 in Discussion |
| AS, is that what you mean by sniping? My father was killed by a sniper 2 years before I was born. |
davedee


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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 15:52 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 56 of 93 in Discussion |
| Well i do not know how to change my email address so I put my up to date one in 'my space' box!! this was many months ago. |
malsancak

Joined: 23/08/2009 Posts: 2874
Message Posted: 08/04/2011 15:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 57 of 93 in Discussion |
| AJ, I think the problem might have been the misinformation in your msg2 where you said "Pauline needs to provide a valid e-mail address on her profile and then she can post again." I also think the main problem has been caused by the person who put the extra "t" in the address and possibly the banning might have caused some problems too. Only an opinion, mind you. You work hard for C44 and I appreciate that. |
misunderstood

Joined: 08/04/2011 Posts: 1004
Message Posted: 08/04/2011 20:33 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 58 of 93 in Discussion |
| For the record and so there can be no misunderstanding, Ismet advised me to join as a new member and told me how. I have no intention of trying to mislead, I used to be called pollymarples. I have had a verification e mail from the admin. NOw that is straightened out. I am to thick to have thought of this for myself. I am quite sure pollymarples did not put a 't' in e mail address. pollymarples will continue her stint on NCFP. This day has been so traumatic, what with waking up to this, then the stress of the court appearance. I am exhausted. AJ give us a kiss xxxxxx |
Lilli


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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 21:03 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 59 of 93 in Discussion |
| Nice to have you back, whoever did put the t in wants shooting. I know of one or two here that have hijacked people emails before now. Anyway relax Big Hugs xx |
Brinsley

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 21:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 60 of 93 in Discussion |
| This whole saga seems to be getting out of control. An allegedly dodgy/hacked email address by a constructive in-put member gets banned. A knowledgeable expatriate on Cyprus History gets banned for 'losing it' on one posting. A TV/Satellite erudite person gets banned for debating differences of opinion with another poster. A swimming pool cleaner gets banned for peddling his wares. When is this going to stop? Izzet wanted this forum to be a community based one, not just an ask & reply one; well, that was his intention when trying to raise monies to financially sustain C44. Is there any criteria for what is allowed or not, or is it down to personal prejudice?! Richard PS I'm not looking for ban! |
TRNCvictim

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 21:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 61 of 93 in Discussion |
| misunderstood (mess 58) I think I have a few words for the "t" Good to have you back Pauline! X |
spider

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Message Posted: 08/04/2011 22:29 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 62 of 93 in Discussion |
| Good to see you back on her again Pauline.. just hope I can remember who you are And as you have stated it matters not about the 't' or what happened and why. But I am sure most would agree thats is nice to see that the mods sometime do check that our emails are for real and that member have not just used them to get onto 44 then forgot all about the checks. It must be a busy job keeping track of all ones emails if one has 5/6 email accounts not a bad hobby for retired folk..lol. All the best wishes to you too. Spider,X |
philbailey

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Message Posted: 09/04/2011 01:47 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 63 of 93 in Discussion |
| I hope the lady in msg 58 with 2 id's this time can have her say as a quote to another N/cyprus exile once said on a watch "don't let the b*stard wear you down" Pauline / Polly/ new id good luck |
misunderstood

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Message Posted: 09/04/2011 06:13 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 64 of 93 in Discussion |
| I would have liked to have had my say privately to all of you who posted on this thread but your emails are barred from me until I have posted a certain number of posts and all my posts moderated before they appear apparently normal for a new member which of course is not of my choosing It could have been worse it could have been the p from paulinenow that would be takiing the - p |
misunderstood

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Message Posted: 09/04/2011 06:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 65 of 93 in Discussion |
| spider only ever had one e mail account I could not cope with more being a Luddite If having to rejoin has taught me one thing + it would be impossible for me to have posted with an incorrect e mail address when I was pollymarples/ The verification process is rigorous and until I had received an email from the admin on here and then verified my e mail address I could NOT activate my membership so however or if ever the t got in front of yahoo will remain one of lifes mysteriies I suspect digging too deeply will cause me another ban However pollymarples willl still her sleuthing I am sure and if she finds out she will tell me. She/in common with most of us hates injustice |
fiendishpaul

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Message Posted: 09/04/2011 10:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 67 of 93 in Discussion |
| Malsancak I have to disagree strongly with the above article. Now we are really going into the realms of rumour and tittle tattle without a single shred of evidence !! The inference that AJ has targetted Pauline because of her anti-TRNC views and to use the fact that he wanted to limit her to one thread whilst other posters had dual threads running is faintly ridiculous. AJ gives an immense amount of his own time to moderating the board but cannot be expected to moderate every single post 24/7. I appreciate that AJ does rub some people up the wrong way, but I can't help but feel that if there is any vendetta being initiated on C44 then it is towards AJ and not by him. Many people bemoan the performance of the moderators, but I don't see any offering to freely give up their own time to do the job. Sorry to say, but I think that the whole 'e-mail conspiracy' is just an unfortunate technical glitch and people are getting agitated for no reason at all. Paul |
misunderstood

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Message Posted: 09/04/2011 11:56 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 68 of 93 in Discussion |
| Yes Paul I would totally agree with you, without the uncalled for e mail, or are you saying she did not receive it? Or are you saying it is a figment of her imagination, or are you saying someone is lying. You cannot lie about the source of an e mail. The sender is there for the recipient to see. She does not nor as she ever thought that this was her board. She was unaware she was causing a problem for anyone, but AJ definitely seems to think she s a problem. As far as she is aware she has never met AJ and certainly on a personal level has no problems with him. Frankly the tone of the e mail was out of order and more importantly, totally unexpected The e mail exists, the content that is printed is correct. That Paul is what most people call evidence. For your information Paul, nothing on NCFP is printed without supporting evidence and Dominic received that evidence from Pauline. I know when Pauline submits artilces Malcom insists on evidence. |
malsancak

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Message Posted: 09/04/2011 12:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 69 of 93 in Discussion |
| fiendishpaul, Dominic wrote: "The reason I personally believe this is exceeding “AJ”‘s authority is that when we take a quick look at the board front page this morning we find several members violating this new “rule”, e.g. “sagsy” and “chrism”, which leads me to believe this is a personal vendetta based upon “AJ”‘s beliefs about what Pauline Read is trying to achieve, and about her outspoken criticism of the current TRNC government for allowing pensioners to be evicted from their homes without lifting a finger." I see Dominic as saying AJ's actions of discriminating against Pauline "leads (him) to believe" what he wrote above. If you read the article up until the point of the email there was nothing to lead anyone to believe that AJ was doing anything discriminatory. I personally can't think why he is limiting Pauline to one thread while others post as many as they like, can you? |
Geoff

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Message Posted: 09/04/2011 13:03 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 70 of 93 in Discussion |
| I cannot for the life of me see why this saga is being allowed to continue. It seems to have been sorted out within the terms of the rules, clearly some don't want to be bound by the rules! Seems to me that AJ (who I don't know and have never met) has absolutely nothing to answer for, or to anyone. Geoff Famagusta City. |
Tenakoutou


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Message Posted: 09/04/2011 13:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 71 of 93 in Discussion |
| Geoff - you simply don't follow - do you? And I am in no doubt that this is not the first time! Try and evaluate a situation from ALL the available information before thoughtlessly postulating! |
malsancak

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Message Posted: 09/04/2011 13:15 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 72 of 93 in Discussion |
| Geoff, you're right things being sorted according to the rules but sadly the rule seems to be: Rule x - everyone can have multiple threads apart from Pauline Read If you're happy with that rule then fine, but some of us aren't. If Izzet is happy with that rule and says so publicly here then, as he pays for the board (well apart for our donations last year), I believe we should accept it and act accordingly |
elko2


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Message Posted: 09/04/2011 13:29 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 73 of 93 in Discussion |
| Mal, I am sure you know that it is always one rule for everybody and the moderators have a constant fight in their hands to weed out the multiple ids. The problem is that many people prefer free e.mail accounts like yahoo, gmail etc and I am one of them. At one time we did not allow these free ones and that caused another problem. People like me would not be able to join the forum. Thus we all have to cooperate to weed out multiple IDs and comments like yours above does not really help. This was not the problem with Pauline anyway, we all know that it was the extra "t" and none of us know how it happened. We all know that moderators have no access to it. So it must be a glitch in the system or someone with much more superior capability causing trouble for the forum. ismet |
fiendishpaul

Joined: 18/05/2008 Posts: 1720
Message Posted: 09/04/2011 13:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 74 of 93 in Discussion |
| Malsancak, Misunderstood (Pauline) I think that you have misunderstood my posting. I wasn't denying the fact that AJ had sent the e-mail or that other posters had more than one post running ! What I was trying to point out was that just because he asked Pauline to choose which post she wanted to keep open doesn't mean that he is 'singling' her out - I was also trying to point out that AJ is not the sole moderator on the forum and can't be held individually responsible if other posters have more than one post running (he might not be on 'duty' at that time and as far as I am aware, posters can have more than one post running at the same time as long as the subjects are different). Had there been a true 'conspiracy' against Pauline by C44, I very much doubt whether she would have been able to re-register in such short a time and contrary to the post title, still be able to update us all on the K5 situation. Good luck to her Paul |
malsancak

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Message Posted: 09/04/2011 14:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 75 of 93 in Discussion |
| Elko, you're right, but the tone of AJ's email was totally inappropriate and was quite stressful after Pauline had just returned from court and had seemingly nothing to do with the email address change. Look at it from her point of view, someone/thing changes her email address so she cannot post about two important K5 issues and then a Moderator sends an email saying he is going to stop all but one of her threads. If she had been opening two threads on the same topic I would have agreed but she hasn't! I'm sure this is the first time it has happened, so a quick explanation to Pauline about AJ meaning that IF IN THE FUTURE she opened two identical topic threads then one will be closed. I can see how that would be so important in order to keep things together and I can't see why Pauline would have to be WARNED about this as this is a helpful move. |
Geoff

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Message Posted: 09/04/2011 15:28 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 77 of 93 in Discussion |
| Re Msg 72: so what is special about Pauline Read?? Geoff Famagusta City. |
malsancak

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Message Posted: 09/04/2011 15:50 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 78 of 93 in Discussion |
| Geoff, she's not important only what she does and if you don't know what she does then just Google "pauline read north cyprus" but without the speech marks |
misunderstood

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Message Posted: 09/04/2011 16:11 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 79 of 93 in Discussion |
| Pauline Read, Geoff she is an insignificant little shrinking violet. So she had her villa forcibly and illegally repossed, so what? Her life partner had a motor vehcile driven at him at speed, didn't hit him did it: stop whingeing. She was arrested for her tongue in cheek coverage of the Geoff Day case - get a life woman. 4 police officers came to her house, threatened to search it and confiscated her laptop and after six months still have it - tough. She is involved in several court cases including the ECHR CASE - don't make it my problem. She is constantly monitored in all she writes and frequently contacted by the secret service police, serves her right, she should keep her head down, She rushes in where angels fear tor tread - well noblody asks her to. All in all Geoff she is just a nobody - best ignored really. |
Earlybird

Joined: 28/04/2009 Posts: 816
Message Posted: 09/04/2011 18:49 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 80 of 93 in Discussion |
| I'm a bit confused with AJ's rule about members being only allowed to post one thread on any particular topic. If this is true why has Bar-ten for example been allowed three threads today about their bar? Can AJ explain? |
hollylou

Joined: 05/01/2011 Posts: 163
Message Posted: 09/04/2011 19:08 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 81 of 93 in Discussion |
| long live pauline read you deserve a medal honey |
matula

Joined: 07/07/2008 Posts: 647
Message Posted: 09/04/2011 19:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 82 of 93 in Discussion |
| Nil Illegitimi in Carborundum Pauline! We shall overcome! |
BillyB

Joined: 19/05/2008 Posts: 436
Message Posted: 09/04/2011 19:32 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 83 of 93 in Discussion |
| Pauline Read (and Kulaksiz 5 & many others) have lost everything. Try and put yourself in their shoes. How would you react if you'd lost everything? Nobody can answer this really unless you have lost everything. Aj's email to Pauline smacks of uncompassionate controlling and uncaring. I and many others are very interested in Pauline's updates and what horrendous acts their being subjected to. I've purchased on eshdeger title deeds but if TRNC government/politicians/Turkey allow these corrupt dispicable acts against people's human rights, I have no doubt in the future my eshdeger title will be at gross risk as it will be the next scam they use to victimise innocent buyers. Please correct me if I'm wrong but taApart from Ismet's wife (a lawyer) and Rauf Denktash, I've never seen any politician, lawyer, estate agent, developer attend any auctions/protests about the property problems. ‘All that's necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing’ |
misunderstood

Joined: 08/04/2011 Posts: 1004
Message Posted: 09/04/2011 20:26 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 84 of 93 in Discussion |
| I can confirm BillyB that Mr Denktas is the most staunch supporter of Kulaksiz 5 and all property victims, he was most interested in the blooming of the CORCHIDACTUS and although he may not be able to be present at the actual blooming, he will be the first to be told. You make a good point, ismet and his wife were at the vigil and Pauline will never stop being grateful to them. The problem with the others supporting is farily self evident. Even if this forum becomes no longer available, you can be sure Pauline will post on her usual venue |
TRNCvictim

Joined: 17/08/2010 Posts: 1417
Message Posted: 09/04/2011 22:24 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 85 of 93 in Discussion |
| BillyB (mess 83) The sad fact is that so many newcomers to Northern Cyprus don't want to understand what has gone on for years before they appeared, they now think everything in the TRNC Mediterranean Garden is full of daffodils, and beautiful clematis, when it's really full of the ugly CORCHIDACTUS this succulent has for many many years sucked the life blood from the shores of this very small Country, and must be dug out at each and every blooming, and put in the incinerator, or it will again creep over anything furtile! |
misunderstood

Joined: 08/04/2011 Posts: 1004
Message Posted: 10/04/2011 07:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 86 of 93 in Discussion |
| You obviously are a keen gardner TRNC victim. You have green fingers as opposed to the Bank's sticky fingers. Unforuntately the CORCHIDACTUS threatens to overrun the gardens of all the other mortgage victims, some 1400 plus villas. We must pray that the Government carries out research and come up with an effective insecticide. It is in their long term interest to do so. However, it has crossed the border and many in the south are under threat. |
misunderstood

Joined: 08/04/2011 Posts: 1004
Message Posted: 10/04/2011 07:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 87 of 93 in Discussion |
| ODE to the TRNC Till the CORCHIDACTUS blooms again I will leave you, leave you never This is a cover version of a song by a Greek singer - guess who? |
Geoff

Joined: 25/06/2008 Posts: 1370
Message Posted: 10/04/2011 09:24 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 88 of 93 in Discussion |
| Re Msg 83 from BillyB: Hey, join the rest of us, we can't get our PTP because our house is on pre-74 Turkish deeds. We also stand to lose everything we have saved for. Like many I am a pensioner with limited funds to fight anything like that. There are hundreds, maybe 1000s in this sort of dilemma here. BUT, we abide by the forum rules and accept that TRNC is a bit different and so some rules may seem, to the unitiated, as onerous and also accept some limitations on subject/content which in UK (for example) we wouldn't accept. In THIS respect, the forum, there is nothing special about any of us, Pauline included. AJ knows all that, and in my view acted correctly, as did Elko2, and others who run this website. Geoff Famagusta City. |
malsancak

Joined: 23/08/2009 Posts: 2874
Message Posted: 10/04/2011 11:34 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 89 of 93 in Discussion |
| Geoff, Pauline is special according to AJ. She is only allowed to publish one thread on a topic whilst members such as "Bar-ten", for example, can start three threads advertising their bar. Are you getting it yet! IMHO, AJ didn't act correctly. I respect your opinion but disagree with it. |
Jeannie

Joined: 04/08/2009 Posts: 3283
Message Posted: 10/04/2011 12:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 90 of 93 in Discussion |
| Message 87. Pauline - it's "The White Rose of Athens" by Nana Mouskouri, I think J |
misunderstood

Joined: 08/04/2011 Posts: 1004
Message Posted: 10/04/2011 12:25 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 91 of 93 in Discussion |
| Geoff only you are using the word special - why is it so important to you to put Pauline in her place whens she knows exatcly what it is - equal to any other member on this board. Now if the consensus of opinion is that you really do not want to know what is going on K5, if enough people voice that opinion, she will stop posting on here. Fair enough. Oh Geoff and whilst I feel sorry you cannot get your Kocan, eviction is not imminent because of it. Pauline has already had her villa taken and it looks s like it is about to be sold. She is still not special, just unfortunate. Jeannie - you are correct.. Take a cookie from the cookie jar Just out of interest Geoff because I am female and therefore thick, just how did Pauline break the rules, oh and before you say invalid e mail, we all know Pauline did NOT put the't' in tyahoo. In fact I think she could well be owed an apology - but she won't hold her breath, blue doesn't become her. |
AlsancakJack


Joined: 14/08/2008 Posts: 5762
Message Posted: 10/04/2011 19:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 93 of 93 in Discussion |
| This thread is now closed.
Reason: Thread was addressed and no need for further posts. |
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