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ttoli


Joined: 24/03/2007
Posts: 1172

Message Posted:
22/04/2011 22:46

Answering a question from a tourist, who wanted info on visiting the Karpaz from Paphos, I've just received the following PM from their moderator Piratis.



Not allowed in this forum. Do you really expect from us to help you exploit the lands you stole from us to profit on our expense?



He/She didnt read that I'd promoted one of the Few Roc Car hire companies that are OK with their cars coming North http://www.cyprus-car.com or that I suggested breaking the Journey in Nicosia, Do they really hate the tourists that much????

gooligan


Joined: 30/01/2007
Posts: 1591

Message Posted:
22/04/2011 22:53

Brainwashed Gary,Brainwashed :(

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
22/04/2011 23:08

Getting a hard time on there, old son?

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
22/04/2011 23:09

Is this a forum for tourists ?



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YFred


Joined: 06/05/2009
Posts: 1471

Message Posted:
22/04/2011 23:15

Piratis who owns that site refuses to meet with Turkish Cypriots in case one day he is asked to kill them in the future and he does not wish to kill friends. He is as close as you can get to ELAM.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
22/04/2011 23:16

Msg 1, they also edited your post in the joke section

ttoli


Joined: 24/03/2007
Posts: 1172

Message Posted:
22/04/2011 23:20

Zoots, water off a ducks back to me , these sad individuals think that they can still push "Their" version of history, far too many ex servicemen and locals tell a different story.



Oppps!!!!!, Piratis is a busy boy tonight, might just have to edit this one though



"F++k off you scum. Peace will come when we get every inch of our land back. We are not interested in any kind of peace where s++t like you get to keep what you stole from us.

ttoli


Joined: 24/03/2007
Posts: 1172

Message Posted:
22/04/2011 23:28

Hmmmn.. Just noticed that Phil, Oh dear now they're making jokes about my Mother!!!, Lowest of the low.

ttoli


Joined: 24/03/2007
Posts: 1172

Message Posted:
22/04/2011 23:41

Yet more



ttoli wrote:

Dont hold your breath, then again, please do Long Live kktc





I don't need to hold my breath. We are doing far better than the invaders who are good for nothing more than invade, steal and kill, so we can wait for as long as it takes.



But I want to see what you are going to do if your name is black listed in the free areas of Cyprus and you are not able to use the facilities here.



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Roley


Joined: 14/02/2011
Posts: 63

Message Posted:
22/04/2011 23:47

ttoli.Msg7:So this is what Cyprus Forum is for.Some alias wanting to write expletives and insult persons who they have never met.With ttoli attitude and pias stance why has Piratis not scrubbed him/her out before now.Hello Piratis are you gone to bed or dont you really care about ttoli behaviour?

ttoli


Joined: 24/03/2007
Posts: 1172

Message Posted:
23/04/2011 00:44

Think that you are right YFred



PM No.4



I will visit the north part of Cyprus only when is liberated, and until then I have no reason or need to do so.



So what would you do if several carpet-baggers like you had their ass kicked while visiting the free areas? Would you dare to continue crossing?



And please, feel free to respond and beat up those idiot GC criminals who go to the occupied areas and spend their money in the "casinos" there. You will be doing us a big favor.



I hope I made it clear that we are not interested in any kind of peace that would grand to you our lands. On the contrary we are ready to keep and intensify our struggle for freedom, and those who have more to lose from this are you not us.

Marion


Joined: 06/03/2011
Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
23/04/2011 01:02

Hmm. Has he taken a look at the many villages which were bulldozed in 1976 (in the south0 TO ENSURE that no turkish cypriots could ever go back to their own homes. And the bulldozing included mosques and graveyards. What was the purpose of such desecration>? None! But fortunately there are some very forgiving hearts in the north who might be alive to forgive had it not been for the intervention of 1974. How differently history can be read - but it has been that way for centuries.

to everyone today , whether Christian as the south, or Moslem as in the north - could I ask how there is any way forward when such hatred exists.

the two leaders have an impossible task, don't they?

Earlybird


Joined: 28/04/2009
Posts: 816

Message Posted:
23/04/2011 09:05

Re msg 12 - well said Marion!

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
23/04/2011 11:32

Marion,

Spot on with your post message 12, The Greeks are full of it just words let them get on with it all big and brave hiding behind their PC

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
23/04/2011 14:10

Marion msg 12: "Hmm. Has he taken a look at the many villages which were bulldozed in 1976 (in the south0 TO ENSURE that no turkish cypriots could ever go back to their own homes. And the bulldozing included mosques and graveyards."

Just for the sake of accuracy do you have credible evidence of these incidents? I'm not suggesting bad things haven't gone on (and appropriations for public works don't count as they happen in every country) but this seems like an alarming exaggeration. Many years experience in Cyprus has shown me that the worst religious desecrations - by a huge margin - have happened in the north.

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
25/04/2011 03:37

Some evidence would still be good.

kittyfun


Joined: 11/04/2011
Posts: 181

Message Posted:
25/04/2011 08:49

Marion message 12 this kind of post should really be backed up with facts or are you exercising your jurnalistic right to make things up to keep a good story running and run with the hounds

yrret


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 761

Message Posted:
25/04/2011 09:41

Be interesting to hear that sites take on the recent publications on the CG Gov website confirming that the '74 situation was largely down to 'the motherland' among a few more influential others.



Sadly, for those that would like to see people in the south educated, you will be disappointed, the absolute minimum you must have to educate someone is someone capable of being educated.



Oh! and can someone post on the other board and tell 'Pratish' to stop stealing and using my language, he has one of his own.

bigOz


Joined: 29/09/2010
Posts: 1244

Message Posted:
25/04/2011 09:55

I had many arguments with the racist/greek nationalist Piratis in that forum. He is an incurable TC hater who has been taught all the wrong history at school (like many younger GCs of today). Funny that he does allow posts by TCs that argue strongly against his ideas, but decides to ban the foreign nationals!



As far as he is concerned, TCs are far inferior race to those down South, and should be kept more like pets rather than partners. He also believes the whole world revolves around Cyprus and the GCs are owed a living by the rest of the world. He is probably upset with the Brits for not taking sides and fighting the war for them, against the Turks.



Then again, it really boils down to British mistakes made in recent history. They helped joint forces hand over Crete to them. They handed over the administration of the islands in the Aegean (up to Turkish coastline!) - Because after the first world war, newly formed Turkish Repuplic was in no position to do anything about it.

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
25/04/2011 16:11

Msg 17,

Maybe she was under the influence of something when she posted. It was rather late!

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
25/04/2011 23:00

Check out the 'village' of Softades on google earth. (co ordinates 34°50'11.04"N 33°33'3.05"E)



Prior to 74 this was a Turkish Cypriot village. Today as you can see, what few remains their are of the Turkish Cypriot houses that used to be there are now used as animal shelters. I believe this village had a small cemetary that no longer exists at all, though that may have been one of the MANY other pre 74 turkish cypriot villages that now no longer exits at all today.

Of course for those that choose to believe than no pre 74 TC villages have been 'wiped from the map' post 74, such evidence will make no difference, for their belief is not bound in facts and evidence but rather they believe what they want to believe and pass that on as if it is truth.

It it those that seek to 'poo poo' the reality that TC villages HAVE been 'wiped from the map' post 74 in the south that are under the influence I am afraid, the influence of the GC propaganda machine.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
25/04/2011 23:53

If you want more just take the map shown here

http://www.cips.com.cy/pdf_up/KarteVolkszaehlung1960.pdf

Which is itself a GC produced map of the population splits in villages pre 74 and then take some of the all TC villages on this map and enter them into google earth and see what is there today.



Try for instance Kochi. Pre74 an all TC village. Today on google earth ? A few ruins and something that looks like and industrial wharehouse.

Or try Aplanta / Aplanda. Pre 74 an all TV village. Today on google earth? Looks like more industrial units.



Or try some of the villages that have not been wiped from the map. Try Klavdia. Pre 74 an all TC village. Today on google earth? Looks like a thriving village, but of course no TC land would have been used for this would it, unless it was public works. Or if it was it has been 'fairly leased' by the Roc Guardian body and all rents put in a bank account waiting to be handed back to the TC owners. Yeah right !

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
26/04/2011 00:08

Don't you just love their boast:-

"Cyprus-Forum.com is an independent discussion forum that allows people to freely and anonymously express their opinion and debate issues on a wide variety of subjects.

Our aim is to facilitate communication between all people of Cyprus irrespective of nationality, citizenship, race or religion. Everybody is welcome to our forum, and every opinion is respected by the administration."



well hardly.... what hollow words, but what do you expect. They can't handle the truth.

bigOz


Joined: 29/09/2010
Posts: 1244

Message Posted:
26/04/2011 00:17

My village, Alektora near Pissouri, is definitely thriving - All the vineyards and houses now owned by the GCs. On a recent visit there, my cousin was told by the occupiers "we will not give this village back even if there is an agreement. We spent 10 million Euıros in expanding and developing it!"

What they are forgetting of course is, the TCs who lived there were all wealthy selling the grapes for export, from more than a thousand "donüm"s of vineyards mainly of seedless "Sultana" and "Thompson" variety.

That's alright - The TCs must have spent a billion developing the towns and villages, in construction industry, roads and infrastructure, that was never there before, so I guess that makes us evens now; in which case, let us stop talking about return of any land or property to anyone!

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
26/04/2011 09:34

Msg 23,



I was a member of that forum for some years and came in for a lot of flak at times.

Then, a few days ago, when I tried to log in I got the following message:



"You have been banned from this forum.

Please contact the webmaster or board administrator for more information."



No reason given, not even actively posting at the time, and of course, if you are banned how do you "contact the webmaster or board administrator for more information"?



Cowardly bunch who are all mouth and no trousers.

Jetski


Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 584

Message Posted:
26/04/2011 10:09

You could always pop over and see him Vaughan!..... I've got his address!

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
26/04/2011 11:10

Long way to go to speak to a numpty.

clarets



Joined: 08/01/2009
Posts: 752

Message Posted:
26/04/2011 11:42

I had the same response from the "All welcoming" bigotted idiots on that forum. One....Miltiades,I seem to remember actually threatened me "virtually"! It never came to anything of course.....I think he saw my picture!

andre514


Joined: 05/10/2010
Posts: 763

Message Posted:
26/04/2011 15:42

it cannot be a total surprise that all the gc firebrands get hot under the collar:

...most likely the "silent majority" in the south feel the same way



but the real problem here is "denial":

oh I don't mean the well-known denial of the greek cypriots,

their stubborn-ness and narrow-mindedness pushes them further up the creek

without a paddle as the years flit by and the chance of re-occupation dwindles



no, I refer to the "denial" of many of us on cyprus 44 simply because:



firstly the gc claimants do indeed have an international case in law

however unlikely that it will ever deliver anything practical for their side



secondly, many, most, or some, continue to feel angry about what happened,

whether or not their own side provoked the crisis in the first place



thirdly one person's bigot is another person's loyalist and while the ex-pats

imagine they are innocents caught in the middle, they are irrelevant

to the cyprus "problem" ...assuming of course, you choose to se

andre514


Joined: 05/10/2010
Posts: 763

Message Posted:
26/04/2011 15:43

...assuming of course you choose to see one