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horselover


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24/04/2011 21:20

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my mum is english n dad cypriot. both have lived here n there. my dad was in both armies n police forces, but they are going to stay in trnc for good soon, and i want to stay with them n my partner n son. Question is..will it still be as hard for me, as it is an all brit family to live n work? ie residency, fees,etc.

My dad n i want to work for ourselves together. Any ideas please?



Marion


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24/04/2011 21:33

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As far as I know the only people being made citizens are the offspring of T.C's, and as far as you rmother is concerned, could one assume she has a kimlik card?



But I reckon you need a trip to the Immigration Office in |lefkosia to find out all your answers. Presumably your Dad can speak Turkish and you can find out about work. If of course you want to set up a company then I assume your father would be the 51% TC share holder and you would be allowed to be the 49% holder, but it may well involve money you don't have. and what nationality is your partner? Because if you are not married and he is not TC, it could be another hurdle to jump.



Check with an accountant, a lawyer or the immigrationoffice to find out the up to date answers to your questions.



the British Residents Society MAY have some of the answers, and you could take a look at their web page . This will cert6ainly be a pretty safe place to raise your son. Good luck.



dandd3


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24/04/2011 21:37

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you will also have to do 12 month national service if u come over here.



girnegeeza


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If you want to live and work here, as a Cypriot you are eligible for a Kimlim Card (Identity Card ) this entitles you to live and work here without all the formalities foreigners have regarding residency permits.

However once you have a Kimlik Card you then become eligible for national service also, so check this out first, it may sort out your residency problems but create some others. Many people have been caught out by this, even men who have married TC women and applied for Kimlik Cards to make life easier for work and residency have found they have to do National Service, even though they are not Turkish.

Hope this helps.



horselover


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24/04/2011 21:43

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err didnt know women had to do national service?

thanks for advice tho



MsGarnet


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24/04/2011 21:46

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I am English, my daughter's father is Turkish Cypriot. My daughter had no problem getting work, buying her own apartment (Turkish title) getting her Kibris card, driving licence........ It is your father's homeland, does he not have family still there that can assure him or otherwise as to the work situation? Obviously the global economy is in dire straits to a greater or lesser degree and the politics of TRNC doesn't help - being polarised and autonomous (aside from the Turkish mainland). Because of its size, work opportunities aren't vast - it would depend on what business you are thinking of - one assumes you will carry out a market survey of your target audience, to ascertain if you need certain equipment; if it is obtainable already, or will have to be imported.........there are so many variables, so many possibilities to explore - only you and your dad can make an informed decision; speaking Turkish will obviously help - do you? It is hard whoever you are at the moment.......



girnegeeza


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If you want to live and work here, as a Cypriot you are eligible to a Kimlik Card (Identity Card ) this entitles you to live and work here without all the formalities foreigners have regarding residency permits.



However once you have a Kimlik Card you then become eligible for national service also, so check this out first, it may sort out your residency problems but create some others. Many people have been caught out by this, even men who have married TC women and applied for Kimlik Cards to make life easier for work and residency have found they have to do National Service, even though they are not Turkish.



Hope this helps.



PS The above applies if you are male.



Marion


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No, just the men - and of course your partner if he becomes nationalised. But get all this advice from a proper source.

The national service is not too bad from what I hear and is part of the commitment to the place.

If they would make me a citizen I would do national service (and I am female) - it would make an interesting story. I would probably be the best potato peeler in the business (and the most bored)



horselover


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also, what do you mean, live n work 'as a cypriot?' is that what brits do? i am british, born n bred.i am not a cypriot



Marion


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another thought. if you Dad had done national servicxe in U.K, or served in the army here, then he would be exempt from the national service, but I think they had to do the odd day here and there to keep in trim.



horselover


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24/04/2011 21:55

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thanks for advice. lol. ive got german shepherds so dont mind being a dog handler. my dad did this in the army n police.



girnegeeza


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24/04/2011 22:01

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Horselover,

What I mean is that you are entiltled to a Kimlik Card if either of your parents are Cypriots, being a Cypriot in its self does not affect the way you would live or work.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.



Marion


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Seems to have given rise to some sensible suggestions, Horselover. I think that Msgarnet is sensible when talking of market research. A lot ofpeople don't and within six months they are bust and gone - or just bust. As a matter of inbterest what WERE you thinking of and where? a lot depends on which part of the island you are thinking of living as to what opportunities there may be and how successful. Places are developing quickly in certain areas (in spite of all the problems that exist) and there are obviously greater gaps of opportunities in some areas than others.

I am sure it can work out. Lots of Brits come here to work and buy homes etc, but of course they don't all have Cypriot fathers. But then you are not a child are you, but an adult in your own right, so again, not sure how that affects you. I assume your Dad has a passport for here already, and what about your mum. It will certainly help you, I would think.



renoe


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25/04/2011 00:32

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You could visit the TRNC representatives office in kondon and ask for information. Just google "TRNC representative office London" and the site URL will be listed. The site is in both English and Turkish. It has addres and contact tel numbers etc...



Zoots


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25/04/2011 03:11

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horselover,

If you're dad is a Cypriot has he not considered picking up an RoC passport and ID and crossing to the EU part of Cyprus? Or have you, for that matter? If you're young and Brit-raised you may find it very hard adapting to the TRNC, which is a very backward place by Western standards.



spider


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25/04/2011 03:24

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Zoots ....... that is how most folk like it rather than the south..will the EU side let the family stay ? Its slower this side and much more quaint rather than over expensive and built up on the south..I love both sides very much and would live south,but hubby loves the quainter way of living





Spider,X



MsGarnet


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Can I say - with respect - I note you say you "have german shepherds". There is a HUGE problem in TRNC with feral, abandoned, sick, unwanted dogs and cats - getting worse by the day. If you intend to bring the dogs with you, would you please have them spayed or neutered if they aren't already - and please, don't take them to the Island unless and until you know you are going to live and work there - and if you are, that you will be responsible for them, for their lifetimes - meaning, if you live there, then leave again - that you will take the animals with you. To micro-chip them, would also be a good thing to do.



Zoots


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25/04/2011 15:58

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Spider,

The trouble is young people don't particularly go for the "old and quaint" thing like the crumblies do as it bores them to tears. Far more opportunities and activities on the other side.



horselover


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25/04/2011 18:14

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very intersting reads everyone. I love my dogs dearly.They are my life and I would rather live in a tent, than leave them. I have a home in lapta, my mum n dad does also. We also have land in Bogas, and will have horses and livestock. Knowing me, il take in wafes n strays. My dad was born south side, speaks 4 languages, n fled for obvious reasons. me..im a fish out of water in london.

my mum n dad lived girne, but came back after she had a sroke. ..

ok, so heres to plugging me.. i work online, i read tarot, runes, clairvoyance if it wants to come thru,help with self meditation,and natural healing. i teach riding n train horses, grass dog sled, am an artist n just started tattooing, n write scripts[none successful lol] but had poems published. im a driving instructor[shame i cant teach cypriots how to drive!.. my dad is rubbish]. ..n i cant wash up!



Visitor


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25/04/2011 18:24

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Just for clarity. You do not need to be resident to have a Kimlik card. If either of your parents is Turkish Cypriot you can get a card with a non Cyprus address. The national service requirement is unconnected. You are eligible for national service because you are Turkish Cypriot by heritage. Should you live in Cyprus or spend more then 90 days in Cyprus. Other factors depend on your age. You may be able to buy yourself out if you are UK born



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